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That Cyberpunk 2077 Review is a Lie

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After reading the title, many people will be reading these words thinking I’m talking about a certain review that scored Cyberpunk 2077, 7 out of 10.
I’m not, I’m talking about every Cyberpunk 2077 review I’ve seen so far and the reason why I won’t be reviewing the game.

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ArchangelMike1652d ago

That 90 Metacritic rating though? Oh wait... it's now sitting at 89.

Good to see some retribution.

nommers1650d ago

Opencritic has it at 84 including all the versions. All things considered looking at metacritics current 49 (ouch) of the console versions I'd say they're getting off easy with that 84.

SullysCigar1650d ago

Well right here on N4G it's sitting at 79 from 44 reviews...

They did this to themselves - a delay would have had far less impact and I doubt they'd have made a significant loss financially. They wanted money NOW and they wanted the holiday spending, so they lied. Then they lied again about refunds. Then they lied again about not knowing it was so bad on base consoles.

The initial influx of reviews were fishy as hell - even on the best PC this game has problems that should prevent it objectively from attaining a 10/10 until they are resolved.

Michiel19891650d ago

@sully i agree, as a consumer i dont really care what the reason is they brought it out now. bad managment, investors pressure or what have you. It just doesnt justify what they put out as the final product. I judge the game as it comes out, not with the promise of what it can be in 6 months or so when they actually finished the game. Combine that with their deceit and shadyness with review copies and that they couldnt only show footage CDPR gave them and not their own gameplay, its shamefull really.

I dont mind reviews giving scores without taking account for bugs in a game as long as there is just a couple bugs in a game, its basically impossible to make big open world games without having some bugs/glitches here and there. However when the game is as buggy as CP2077, that just cant be overlooked in any review and should be reflected in the score. Especially since some of them are outright gamebreaking.

VenomUK1650d ago (Edited 1650d ago )

Do Metacritic and Opencritic allow updates to review scores? The stability problems will obviously have damaged the Cyberpunk 2077 scores, though in a year I’m sure the game will better match CDPR’s original vision - but is that fair?

What happened with No Man’s Sky that underdelivered (but worked) at launch and after years from major improvements has just won a Game Award.

Pretentious1650d ago

I'm just glad I finally secured a PS5 so I can play this with little issue in less than a month.

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solideagle1650d ago

now I look at all the 10/10 even on PC version sounds fishy, as there are so many bugs even in PC version.

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specialguest1650d ago

There's absolutely no way a game should get a 10/10 or even a 9.5 for all of the bugs

Vx_1650d ago (Edited 1650d ago )

The game problem isn't just the bugs, the whole system and mechanics are crap. AI is the worst I've ever seen, the crafting is boring and useless at most, the side quests are insignificant, the character is way too overpowered and this game has major balancing issues. Oh, and btw, the game "endings" only are affected by the choices you make in the very final act. so whatever you choose throughout the whole game doesn't really matter. Trash game of the generation more like, Corona 2077.

esherwood1650d ago

The games awesome and I’m playing on Xbox. Easily the best game this generation, no idea why all you nerds are on a warpath to tear it down but it’s ridiculous

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Baza1650d ago

Those console reviews looking real rough.

Vandamme211650d ago

It’s actually 88 now on metacritic. This game was way too overhyped.

nommers1650d ago

On open critic now its an 82.

-Foxtrot1650d ago

See people might call it “review bombing” when it’s a game they like or a from a studio they don’t want to see criticised but it’s not all trolls and the like...it helps gamers vent

It’s rightly deserved here

Ninver1650d ago

This is a 70 game at best. Talk about falling from grace.

Mulando1650d ago

Well, after all it is a really good game if the hardware can run it fluent.

Yes, they should not have released it in that state on last gen base-consoles.

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Father__Merrin1650d ago

Goto YouTube and search for Cyberpunk bug montages it's hilarious no way is that a finished game it's shocking ppl gave it 90's

NoLifeLoser1650d ago

Reviewers look at the name of the publisher and then give their score accordingly.

abstractel1650d ago

If I were to review it based on MY experience, it'd be a 9 or 10. I realize I'm talking into a massive down-vote like Tiqila, but I love the crap out of this game. The bugs I've run into have been not being able to pick some objects up that are near corners or NPCs and similar, minor ones like that. I have a ridiculously powered PC which plays a big part.

I do feel bad for people running this on consoles, especially last-gen PCs, and even low-mid end PCs. It comes down to your personal experience.

Refunds are being accepted so I don't really care about speculating regarding the devs decision as I find it pointless. Want to wait until it's more stable on your hardware, you can. No one is forcing you to buy or even keep the game since they are accepting refunds. I'm glad it's out because I enjoy it, I'm sorry there's a lot of people who don't.

repsahj1650d ago

... that's why it's weird that CDPR didn't let reviewers use their own footage. Why they didn't experience all of this bug? Did they play until the later parts of the game or they just play the good portion and based that review on it?

Eamon1650d ago (Edited 1650d ago )

Yeh, I'd say this does deserve a solid 7/10. 1 point off for bland gameplay and 2 points off for horrendous bugs.

It seems the characters, script, story and aesthetics are highly praised while the gameplay is pretty generic for a 2020 Action-RPG game with braindead AI.

I think I'll wait till all the debugging work is done before I get this one. And considering how huge of a mess it is, that might take a year.

anast1650d ago

One thing I dislike about game reviewers is that they never say which version of the game they played, especially with sometimes up to 5 different versions of the same game.

Now on to 2077, this whole "struggling hardware" thing is getting old. They advertised it as a current gen game and it is still a current gen game; therefore they mismanaged the project by making a current gen game that can only run well on next gen hardware. It is not the fault of current gen tech or current gen gamers. This is all on them. There are no should haves or would haves. They straight up went for the money play. Now they got their money and now gamers want their game fixed. It is as simple as that.

Mr_cheese1650d ago

I honestly don't believe hardware is the issue.

GTA5 was a ps3 game and look what they achieved.

cartoonx11650d ago

GTA5 had worst performance on ps3 thn this has on ps4 tho.

Ezio20481650d ago

@cartoonx1 are you crazy? Gta5 ran fine on ps3. I completed the game without any issues and I am sure a lot of people did. They didn't get 97 meta on ps3 for nothing.

jbrock111650d ago

Just absolutely terrible optimization.

Father__Merrin1650d ago

Not only that but their minimum and recommended pc specs are laughable. No way will you get a stable game unless you have ultra high end set up

jbrock111650d ago (Edited 1650d ago )

Doesn't even matter really. If you can even manage to avoid the bugs ( virtually impossible on any platform ), the game just isn't very fun. They had a lot of good ideas but virtually everything outside of the world itself was executed terribly. Game's a 5/10 or 6/10 at best in it's current state. 7/10 if they can get out all the bugs and I played on PC at max settings with a 3090/10900k.

anast1650d ago

I'm liking the story and I am playing on base... I would give it a 6 current or lower for lying about the state of the game and easily an 8 or 9 if the game wasn't all jacked up.

Xbox_Oldies1650d ago

I agree @Anast,
Far too many reviews don't mention it or hide it in small print.

Cyberpunk has proven there can be such a massive gap in performance between the same game running on different hardware (Xbox One/Series X),
I dread to think how much PC reviews would differ between the experience of minimum specs and the 3080+ they're probably reviewed on.

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waverider1650d ago

Its funny all the talk of scale down is easy to do.... but in reality it goes right out of the window,,, Big fat lie.

SullysCigar1650d ago

Bu..But what about the magic Xbox 'slider'??!

hadowajp1650d ago

This really doesn’t have anything to do with scaling tho.. it’s poorly optimized and the brute force of the higher end consoles can smooth some of those issues. It’s to about scaling of it was designed for the hardware that can’t scale the program. 7years and this is what we got, glad I got a refund even having next gen systems I’ll grab when it’s 30 or less for the finished game.

Silly gameAr1650d ago

Just take note of every blog or gaming site that rated Cyberpunk a 9 or above, and be wary the next time they review a game that's hyped to high heaven. Also, watch the sites that rate great games lower than it seems like they should be. You can't really trust the gaming media now in days. You're your own best critic, and your opinion should matter more than anyone else's.

mafiahajeri1650d ago

Some of these guys go to freaking behind door showings of games where they probably sit down and drink and eat and chat and get chummy with the devs and shit, so basically what im saying is dont put value to peoples opinions that much, because theres a huge chance external factors could easily make their review scores biased. Also dont bitch and moan after you get tricked into buying a game like a dog being teased by his owner dangling a bone infront of them for 8 years only for it to turn out to be a fake toy bone.

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Cyberpunk 2077's 2.3 Update Opens a Pandora's Box the Game Can't Close

Cyberpunk 2077 is getting a new update after developers previously stated it no longer would, bringing the possibility of more still to come.

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hollabox8d ago

I'm hoping the update fixes their poor FSR 3 implementation, and add FSR 4. FSR 2 looks better than FSR 3 in CP2077 by a wide margin. On my 7900XT I just use XESS if I want to add RT at custom 3K resolutions. Already beat the main game, but half way through Phantom Liberty expansion. I would like to get back to it later on this month.

anast8d ago

I have more hours in this game than any other. I would happily put more into it.

MastaMold7d ago

I second this and a PS5 PRO patch too please.

RhinoGamer887d ago

I finished it and had a blast, wish there was a new game + option.

Demon-kun3d ago

I wanna be able to dual wield it would add a decent bit I feel hell if they wanted they could even let us dual wield like knives and swords as well or something just sounds like fun to me

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Cyberpunk 2077 on Switch 2: a cutting-edge game translates well to Nintendo's console hybrid

Few games among the Nintendo Switch 2 launch line-up can match Cyberpunk 2077 in putting the system through its paces. It's a staple of our PC benchmarking suite for good reason: the open world design is a solid stressor for any CPU, while its effects-heavy battles challenge GPU resources as well. This Switch 2 release has clearly been a big undertaking for developer CD Projekt Red too, who produced the port in-house with unique optimisations for Switch 2's ARM-based architecture. It's also remarkably the Ultimate Edition of the game, with both the core adventure and the more taxing Phantom Liberty expansion bundled in - an extra portion that proved too demanding to justify a last-gen console release, and was instead restricted to PS5 and Series X/S, and yet here it is running on Switch 2.

To cut to the chase, Switch 2 offers a truly viable way to enjoy Cyberpunk, either in a portable format or docked under a TV. However, CDPR has shot for the stars in its ambition to include Phantom Liberty as well, and it's here that Switch 2 hits some technical limits - with frame-rates struggling as we explore its newer Dog Town region. Still, that aside, there's a lot to admire in the game's engineering for Nintendo's new console overall, and how competitive it is in comparison with other consoles.

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repsahj10d ago

I am happy for CDPR. Their hard work paid off because the Switch 2 version are always in the top 5 Switch 2 launch game sales.

jznrpg9d ago

Not much launched with it besides ports so it should be expected I guess.

OMNlPOTENT8d ago

I mean.. what did the PS5 launch with? One exclusive in Demon's Souls?

repsahj8d ago

@Omnipotent
Not just PS5, Series X has zero launch games. XD

DivineHand1259d ago (Edited 9d ago )

This may be one of the weakest launch lineups Nintendo has ever had, with Mario Kart being the only first party game, but Cyberpunk 2077 will definitely give you tremendous value for your money.

One tip I can give people who have never played the game is to first read books from the cyberpunk subgenre. This will allow you to appreciate the story much better. If you find yourself asking which life path is the best to take at the start of the game, in this case it is Corpo, Streetkid, and Nomad. You likely don't know enough about the genre, and certain things will fly right over your head. While it is not mandatory, the game will be 10 times better if you read or listen to some books first.

Some books I have enjoyed in that genre are:
Cyber Dreams by Plum Parrot,
Stray Cat Strut by RavensDagger
Tower of Somnus by Cale Plamann
Mist Runner by Nicholas Searcy

If you can only read or listen to 1 book, then I recommend Cyber Dreams by Plum Parrot. It is the closest thing to Cyberpunk 2077.

anast9d ago

Or play the TTRPG which is was based on.

Profchaos9d ago

I'd say its stronger than the switch as Mario kart has a broader appeal than zelda.

It was also a better launch line-up than the gamecube and possibly wii u

DivineHand1259d ago

@Profchaos the WiiU likely had the worst of the bunch which is partly why the system failed.

The gamecube had smash bros melee that launched 2 months after the initial release and that is one of the best games to release on that console. I assume every gamecube owner would be happy with that game.

The switch had Breath of the Wild which is still considered one of the best games of all time. I remember playing through that game and unlocked every equipment, upgraded every equipment to the max, found all the dragons, defeated all the Lynels and completed all the shrines in that game before defeating Ganon at the end. It was a good time from start to finish and made up for the lack of other launch games.

I just think that if they had us waiting that long for the switch 2, they should have more than just 1 or 2 first party games ready within the launch window. If we had at least gotten a trailer for a new 3D mario I would be extremely happy. With the current switch 2 lineup, there is no draw to go out and get it immediately like a new console launch should make you feel. Right now the main appeal is to provide a quality of life update to play switch 1 games.

OMNlPOTENT8d ago

There is also a book directly related to the universe of Cyberpunk 2077, it's called "No Coincidence". I thought it was a pretty good read.

Kornholic8d ago

"One tip I can give people who have never played the game is to first read books from the cyberpunk subgenre."

If somebody gave me this advice before I started my first Cyberpunk 2077 playthrough, I wouldn't have even bought the game in the first place.

DivineHand1257d ago

True because I wouldn't have played it either. It's just that I read those books after playing the game and thinking back, a lot of the motivations of each character started making more sense.

I just wanted to through that tip out there to recommend someone try to understand the cyberpunk genre more before playing. They will get more out of the game.

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badz1499d ago

40 vs 60 fps is not something that I would even consider calling "competitive"

1nsomniac9d ago

Then you don’t know enough about the subject you’re trying to talk about..

badz1499d ago

hahaha...what? are you serious right now? the Switch 2 is not a PC where you can just change the graphical settings to get to 60fps...Unless CDPR released a patch to make it run at 60fps, that is.

As of right now, it's stuck at 40fps at best and that too with DLSS from quite a low base res already. so yeah...it's not competitive.

Profchaos9d ago

100% 40 isn't a arbitrary choice its a strategic choice because it opens up access to supporting technology on the console

Good-Smurf9d ago

DF are Nintendo's occasional bootlickers after that blatant Zelda games ad scandal.
Games like CP2077 are meant to be played on big console or powerful PC on a big screen.
Got to love how they're simp for full price purchase of 5-year-old game and still getting the worst version to play on.

1nsomniac9d ago

Wow you guys don’t let up for a second trying to blame DF for anything you can pick out the sky at any given moment. It’s embarrassing dude.

It’s always DF are bootlickers for Nintendo today, Microsoft yesterday, Sony last week. Make your mind up people… pick a side and stick to it. Sounds so stupid when you’re trying to make a point that some company is biased but that no one can make their mind up who the company is biased towards any given day of the week.

stoney1019d ago

Yep, the amount of hate they get is ridiculous. The funny thing is if you actually look at the comments on their early switch 2 videos people are slating them for not giving it enough praise and constantly comparing it to ps4.

ZycoFox9d ago

They had a "Sponsored by Nintendo" video not long ago, it literally says so at the start.

I trust them for showing frame rate analysis and they're decent for that, but their overall review for Nintendo is overrated, Mario Kart is the same game it has always been.

Really the only one that got close to topping DKR was MKDS.. So it's no wonder it's often ranked as the highest rated Mario Kart.

repsahj8d ago

It's obvious that you're not following DF. In the weeks leading up to the Switch 2's release, didn't you know that DF had so many articles downplaying the Switch 2 because they believed it was far from being more powerful than the PS4?

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anast9d ago

Phantom Liberty is a part of the game. If it can't run it. It can't run the game.

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Review: Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition Is The The Best Launch Title For Switch 2 – Entertainium

Now’s the best time to travel to Night City as Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition is the best pickup on the Switch 2 at the moment.

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