Xbox Series S Storage Is Way Too Small For An All-Digital Console

Now that the Xbox Series S has been officially announced with specs, one thing is very clear. The storage is way too small for an all-digital console.

[Zodiac]

You’re gonna have to buy external storage, regardless It’s not like the 1tb storage is exactly future-proof either.

[DJStotty]

Most hardcore owners of the PS4/Pro, xbox one/X, will already have external storage, then if you run out of room, just move some games around from Internal to External and vice versa.

[elazz]

Even at 100MB/s for the external hard drive moving upwards of 100GB frequently will be very tedious. That's around 17min. If you can move your games as a background task, not sure if they will let you, that will probably be an even slower process.

512GB will probably be around 450GB accessible to the user so the propietary SSD seems almost a must. Might be expensive though.

[The Wood]

Cant you use non proprietary externals?

[spicelicka]

Don't know why people are disagreeing. This is the way to do it. With the OS there would still be room for 3-4 Series X games on the SSD at least. It's not that hard to shuffle one a month, just be proactive and leave it to transfer overnight.

[BlackTar187]

Most hardcore will already have one? Where the hell did you pull that nonsense from?

[Phoenix76]

Elazz - even with 450gb after formatting you've still got to consider how much space the OS is going to take up and how much of a minimum of free space you'll need for patch updates to install. Going to probably on have about 300 to 350gb avaliable after.

[DJStotty]

@Blacktar187

your casual gamer would not have the need for an external, as they usually only buy/play a few games at a time.

The "hardcore gamer" are your collectors, people that buy/install and play multiple games and play daily, and will most probably already have the need for external storage.

If you did not get external storage for Xbox One or PS4, then you will not need it for PS5/Series X, it is that simple.

[crazyCoconuts]

Remember though that external storage won't run games that are actually designed for XSX/XSS. They need to be run off of SSD.

[DJStotty]

I will just use my 2TB external as storage, and then transfer the games when and if needed.

On Xbox you can set games to transfer and then play another, will not be that difficult.

[averagejoe26]

Plus you're going to have to buy their proprietary ssd storage cards for the best results which are rumored to cost over $200 for the 1tb option. This "cheap" console is going to get expensive very quickly.

[SullysCigar]

I'm all for a cheaper console to get more people into next gen, but this seems like a stealth cost. By the time you've upgraded with MS proprietary storage expansion, you're at the same money as a series x. Even if you go cheaper alternative, you're only about $50 short of series x. Factor in the other 'drawbacks' (for want of better term) of S compared to X and you're really just better off saving the hassle and buyers regret and going straight for the X, surely?

If you don't expand storage on the S, you better have bloody amazing broadband speeds and be prepared for some file management sapping your gaming time!

[MoonConquistador]

Yeah it smells a whole lot like the old 360 is cheaper than the PS3 argument.

Until you factored in the cost of WiFi adaptors, external hard drives and battery chargers for your controllers etc.

[alb1899]

And the more expensive ps5 will get more expensive exactly in the same way but faster because is a 4k machine with 700g SSD.

[r2oB]

@alb1899

Not exactly. The PS5 will not require any proprietary drives, so the fact that different manufacturers will be making pcie 4.0 drives will ensure you will be able to expand your storage for less than the cost of a proprietary ssd.

[DJStotty]

@averagejoe26

And the same goes for PS5, you need an SSD external that matches the internal speed.

"Which SSD drives are compatible with PS5? Sony have confirmed that they will allow you to upgrade your PlayStation 5's included 825GB capacity (See Also: PS5 SSD: How Much Storage Space Does It Have?) by purchasing compatible NVMe SSD drives. However, due to the nature of PS5 you'll need to use an SSD drive specifically whitelisted as compatible by Sony."

So do not try and make out like it is just Microsoft that require an SSD for maximum results.

[DJStotty]

@SullysCigar

1 - it does not take that long to transfer a game now using HDD's, so SSD will be faster. (around 30mins-1hr currently)

2 - you can play another game whilst transferring the other game.

3 - you will be able to fit around 5-10 games on the Series S hard drive, so if you are going to play 10+ games per day, then yeah you will need some management.

[DJStotty]

@R20B

You are mistaken, you need an SSD whitelisted by Sony in order to play PS5 games from an external.

As of this moment, Sony have not disclosed or announced any external SSD drive which is compatible with PS5

[Rhythmattic]

alb1899
Its a 825GB SSD in the PS5.
The classic, non-factual post because you could.
I just hate , when a fanboy , no matter their allegiance, just posts absolute FUD... Especially when in this day and age its information at your fingers tips....Literarily... It just shows., like a certain world leader, followers are lazy, and dont care what is a fact, but a reason to throw critical thinking away without understanding, all they have is Critical Belief.

At least say its less space than a Series X... That'd be fact .... But, You went full.

I award you no points.

[Neonridr]

and no doubt any PS5 external solution that allows you to play off of will be super expensive. Considering nothing exists like it in the market.

[crazyCoconuts]

Some of these comments are a little confusing to me - for PS5, Sony said they will create a list of SSDs that are certified / specced out to work well as replacements. However, I don't think they said they would limit (whitelist) the SSDs you could buy and try, they might not work well though. I think some news outlets jumped to that conclusion, but that's not what Cerney said in my recollection at least.
And there isn't an external SSD option for PS5 - it has to be a internal SSD, and I assume it's a REPLACEMENT, not an extension. This is an advantage for Xbox imo.

[Rhythmattic]

alb1899. You Disagree?
let me be clear...Without adding an opinion .
The PS5 SSD is 825GB. You are wrong.
Thats a fact you cannot argue,

[spicelicka]

For $299 I don't know what else people expect. The best way to deal with this would be to hook up an external hard drive just for storage and current gen games, keep 2-3 Series X games in the SSD and once your library grows you can shuffle between them as needed. Most people already have an external hard drive with their current console and non-Series X games can be played directly off of it.

Secondly, with XCloud streaming COULD become popular and storage space wouldn't been an issue with that.

End of the day don't be a moron and understand your options before investing in any console. Don't complain after.

[CorndogBurglar]

I mean, I still have a 500GB PS4. I just delete games to make room for newer ones. It doesn't delete your save files. I'm not sure I get what the big deal is. Sure I would like more space, but its not the end of the world. If I want to play an older game again I just remove something else and reinstall it.

No one will NEED to buy external storage. Its a convenience.

[DJStotty]

The big deal is it is a slow news week again for Sony, Microsoft have announced a solid option for casuals at a great price point, and people just want to try and downplay.

But on topic, yeah the external hard drive scenario, is exactly the same as it was this gen.

[hiawa23]

I am using 10TB of Samsung 860 SSDs for my X1X, so I can't imagine the file sizes for next gen.

[Rhythmattic]

Dont know why you got down voted... Its not like your saying "You HAVE" a 10TB SSD,,,
SMH... comprehension people.

[NeoGamer232]

Ya, to me this is a huge problem this generation on every console configuration. I have bought digitally since 360 / PS3 days. So my total library of games exceeds 24 TB... Currently have two 8 TB and one 10 TB drive hooked to my XBO X and one 8 TB drive hooked to my PS4 Pro. How do I fit down to 1 TB? LMAO!

[Neonridr]

all the consoles will need expanded storage, You think that the PS5 all digital with it's 825GB or whatever is going to be enough?

[ElementX]

I have over 25 games on my 1TB One X with almost a quarter of it free. Not every game will need to be 150GB. Files won't need to be duplicated like current consoles. Many games could have optional streaming of cutscenes in order to save space.

[crazyCoconuts]

There are some good options available to scale down on size, question is will developers take the time do do so. COD MW as popular/well funded as they are have just got to trying to scale things down size wise. If XSS turns out to represent a huge % of customers and they all demand small install sizes, devs will make an effort to comply. If it's a small niche I bet developers won't spend a great deal of time fretting over how to compress down an XSS specific deployment

[AcidDvl]

I get you but you also need to understand that not everybody plays that many indie games. Most ppl play triple A and those have big sizes.

[ElementX]

How many AAA games do people leave installed after completion?

[Vits]

I don't really agree. My PC have about 700 GB of active storage (Nvme), is a digital only device and for me it work fine enough as both a gaming and working device. Sure you have to be mindful of what you keep in your console and there are probably sittuations when that can bite you in the ass - if you have some really shit internet or many sibblings that share it with you - but it is the price to having it for such a low cost.

Now if M$ could review the prices of their "SSD Cards" that would be great.

[shadowT]

I am less concerned about the SSD size, because you can extend it. I am more concerned that the Xbox Series S is only providing limited performance compared to the Xbox Series X.

[DJStotty]

Only the resolution is limited, it plays the same games.

[JEECE]

I'm not sure resolution is the only way the graphics will be limited compared to Series X; probably other effects too. But yeah in terms of gameplay features, etc there will be no difference.

[averagejoe26]

Resolution, fps, load times, etc will all be effected. It's incredibly obvious to anyone who has any knowledge of hardware specs.

[yomfweeee]

Man Microsoft has you all fooled with that resolution claim. A weaker GPU and a lower amount of RAM will affect other things.

[--Onilink--]

You are getting a lot of disagrees, but anyone who has seen someone benchmarking PC components knows that on lower resolutions, the games are much much more CPU bound (which is why that part was mostly untouched).

Still not entirely sure about the ram and whether it will eventually be too slow, but you would imagine that they thoroughly tested it before deciding the speed.

But overall, considering how many upscaling, reconstruction, variable shading, etc rendering techniques on a console only pushing for 1080p-1440p resolution shouldnt struggle with the current specs

[crazyCoconuts]

If you have to buy a $150 SSD expansion, you've got $450 in this not-quite-next-gen console. Might as well have bought the big boy.

[Teflon02]

Literally think Series X is a much better buy. This one just seems like a waste of money with the fact the games for 2 years atleast will be on one as well lol. Might as well put that money into the better one. After how some games run horrible on the base Xbox one a d some bad on the S bit great on the X. It's just the safe move

[crazyCoconuts]

@Teflon, exactly. If you can't spend over $300 and you don't already have an Xbox but now want to get one, ok, this console could make sense for you.
But if you're really tight on money you're not getting Game Pass. Hell you're not even getting XBL at $5/month let alone $15/month. So why not get a mid-gen console with more storage and a disk drive so you can rent and resell games? That's the logical answer for frugal consumers in my book.

[enkiduxiv]

It's a dirty game they are playing for sure. They discontinued a more powerful piece of hardware to sell this at a lower price point, but they are still calling it next gen. I currently play on a PC with similar stats to this system, including the SSD. Its faster, but I wouldn't call it a generational upgrade over my base PS4.

Basically, Microsoft's big plan to stay relevant is to win the price war by not actually selling a next gen console. For 300, you can have the equivalent of a PS4 Pro with a better hard drive instead of an actual next gen powerhouse. And you know what, it will probably work too. At the end of the day the masses will eat this garbage up because its so cheap.

Even if Sony gets their price point down to 350, all Microsoft has to do is package a free Game Pass subscription. All the casuals will be able to play all the EA trash they want for next to nothing.

[alb1899]

The X is a much better buy for the one who can afford it. It is a 1080p console, it will take four times the amount of space for a game on the ps5 digital and it is just 200g bigger.

[DJStotty]

Not really, next-gen game file sizes will be smaller if not the same as games now.

It is only 313gb smaller than the PS5. Factor in that you can use your existing external HDD as storage, then no, no it is not too small.

[crazyCoconuts]

the logic behind "for an all-digital console" doesn't make sense to me. Even if you have a disk drive, the console copies all assets to the SSD, so from a storage perspective both consoles have the same limitations

[JEECE]

Please mention this as often as possible. It's insane how often this past gen I saw people continue to argue that they buy discs to save HDD space, when in fact the install size is the same.

[darthv72]

Those who tout physical are usualy those who uninstall games when they arent playing them. So install from disc is faster (sometimes) than installing from the web. I dont uninstall my games though, I just make sure I have a big enough drive to hold them.

[JEECE]

@darthv72

You are right; obviously installing from disc is faster and doesn't eat up your broadband cap for those who have them (I don't know where that is, but people mention it). I should have distinguished that people have specifically argued with me that games still actually run from the disc.

[crazyCoconuts]

I would argue that install from disk is usually no longer faster than downloading because of required software updates that amount to the size of the entire game having to be downloaded anyway.

[averagejoe26]

Nope.

What you're forgetting is disc versions don't have to download over 100GB for a game. This is why all digital with smaller storage is bad.

2 consoles - both have 500GB - one is digital only one has a disc drive - When I want to install a new game on one...guess how long it is going to take to download that 200GB call of duty as opposed to installing it off of a disc.

That's the big difference. You can sit there and download your incredibly large file onto your digital only console while others can install right away.

Sure, you can have an external HDD - but transferring all of that data from a HDD to an SSD is going to take just as long as downloading.

Now you're left with buying Xbox's proprietary storage cards which are rumored to be incredibly expensive.

[crazyCoconuts]

That's a function of time, not space. Whether you get the data from a Blu-ray or from the internet, it's all got to go to the same space- the SSD. So both digital and non digital can store the same number of games. Of course disc installs are faster

[GoodGuy09]

And to upgrade the storage, oof. Its a good price for the casuals though.

[Garodor]

Maybe there will be the option to not download 4k textures for games ... that would cut down on download time and save disk space. After all the Series S does just upscale to 4k and renders in 1080p natively as far as the spec sheet says

[--Onilink--]

That actually already exists in Xbox One S vs Xbox One X

[NeoGamer232]

Ya, it is supposed to be called Smart Delivery.

[JEECE]

All these "XSS is for the casuals" and "everyone who will use XSS already has a large external HDD anyway" comments really don't go together at all. I promise you most casuals probably don't understand that you can hook up an external HDD to a console.

[--Onilink--]

Most casual dont have 10 games they are playing at once either. Probaby 1 or 2 at most

[Teflon02]

The trick is you pay that then you gotta upgrade the memory lol. Boom now you paid like $400 when you thought it was going to be $300

[Kavorklestein]

To be honest the PS5 and Series X should have bigger SSD versions at launch also.
I'd rather get a Series X or PS5 with at least 2tb or even 3tb.
Current gen was already weak enough in regards to storage.
There was a 2tb Gears of War version of the Xbox one, and I've seen a 2 tb version of the Ps4 Pro.
But honestly I am always wanting more.
I remember waiting for the Xbox 360 Elite which had a 120 GB HDD. That was worth it at the time. Then I got the 256 GB slim. Then the 500 GB 360.

And now the new consoles are close to, or barely bigger than the last gen consoles. And barely bigge than the last model of Xbox 360 was.

I mean I have 256 GB in my dang phone so these consoles are definitely coming with small options. I may just end up getting as big of a an SSD expansion for Series X or Sony approved replacement SSD as soon as possible. Even if they are 200+ bucks.

[adamwparker]

Has anyone heard if the Series S/X will be compatible with the Seagate Drive that is made for the Xbox Ones? (Seagate Portable 2TB External Hard Drive Portable HDD in particular)
Many people already have one of those.

Or will a newer Hard Drive Card be needed to be purchased additionally and no other HD currently on the market will be set up to work with the new Series'?

[Software_Lover]

It is compatible with all usb3 hdd's. You can play old titles off of those HDD but all games made for this next gen will need to run off of the internal SSD or an expansion SSD (when offered)

[hiawa23]

👏👏👍

[Father__Merrin]

There's a £200 1tb xbox storage option releasing which brings the price to £449 which in then case you may as well grab a series X.

I think the occlusion of NVME drives as standard has bumped price up considerably

[subzero1992]

1080p/1440p games will be much smaller than 4k games.

[masterfox]

finally somebody got the guts and put some reality in a article title for this mess of a console, not to mention is small but you will not will even get the 500 GB in it , most probably you will get around 420 gb cause of the system files.

[--Onilink--]

Well, 500gb for a console that shouldnt have to download 4k assets (the One S and X already make those distinctions) is really not that far off from how low 825gb will be for a console using 4k assets (or maybe even more with the kind of things shown in the UE5 engine)

[NeoGamer232]

So, I guess the PS4 at Wal-mart is a mess because it is 500 GB?

https://www.walmart.com/ip/...

[masterfox]

Will not go into detail why I consider the new xbox a mess, but daamn comparing a console released 6 years ago with a supposed next gen console not even released yet ? , yikes!

[NeoGamer232]

@masterfox
You don't want to go into detail because it you made up it is a mess.

From a game playing standpoint the only thing that the S cannot do is play games in native 4K. It upscales them. Now, there were two mid generation consoles released this current generation called the XBO X and PS4 Pro. PS4 Pro checkerboarded up to 4K a lot of times when XBO X was able to do 4K natively. Nobody had a problem with that as the differences are there but not really relevant to gamers. It will be the same with this console. There are differences but to 99% of gamers it won't matter.

The only thing that this console can be knocked on is its total storage, yet that is a problem on every console and if smart delivery works as they say it will, only 1440p assets will be downloaded to the console, thereby making its storage roughly equivalent to the 1 TB version.

But go through the specs yourself rather then being uninformed.... It has:

Fast SSD
Hardware Ray Tracing
GDDR6 memory
The same CPU as XSX
Fast game switching
backwards compatibility
Media playback in native 4K
etc, etc.

The only feature difference is that instead of native 4K it does upscaled 4K. That is what drives the console price up so they are offering a much cheaper version that upscales games to 4K.

I don't have a financial reason why I cannot buy XSX but with this device I am double-taking why I would buy a luxury console when I only need a $200 less console to play all the next gen games.

[ziggurcat]

This argument can easily be countered with: plug an external into the console to use as storage, and transfer the games you want to play to the internal SSD.

[hiawa23]

Bingo, that is what I said.

[averagejoe26]

Except transferring from HDD to SSD will take an incredibly long time. Might as well just re-download it at that point.

[ziggurcat]

It won't take any longer than it does now.

[shaenoide]

Not if you can sell a 200$ memory card.

[NeoGamer232]

It will be a cold day in hell for me to pay $200+ for a 1 TB expansion card.

[ShadowKing-]

i don't know about anyone else, but I know ever since this covid started, i have been buying more digital then anything instead of getting out and going to the store to buy a game. So I will have to upgrade or buying a external storage anyway.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

I think they should have gone with at least 750GB.

[anast]

Sometimes cheaper means a higher cost down the road.

[franwex]

Plus whatever size the OS is, it’s actually less than the 500 gigs. I’m worried about the 825 gigs of the PS5 as being too low too.
Even 1TB is low. I hope games take advantage of the SSD and actually lower their file sizes going forward. But most likely we will have to expand the memory.

[hiawa23]

I plan to use my 10TB Samsung 860 SSDs I am currently using for my Xbox 1X, for the Series X for storage as MS says your Series X games can be stored on any drive. They just have to be installed internally to play, so really no issue with the storage solution for next gen. It is what it is and who knows I am sure there will be other drive solutions.

[averagejoe26]

It is an issue, as buying a 10TB SSD for extra storage is incredibly expensive. Might as well just buy a gaming PC for the definitive Xbox game experience at that point.

[hiawa23]

But I already have the drives, and not into PC gaming, so my storage solution is fine for Series X and PS5..

[Stanjara]

That's you, and nobody else.

[CrimsonWing69]

Do you want a cheap console or not?

[hiawa23]

Completely agree.

[sampsonon]

It will do. I usually only play a few games at a time anyway so.

[hiawa23]

I don't get the complaining. Games can be stored on most drives, you just have to install to play them internally to play. They want a cheaper price, well, MS gave that.

[Destiny1080]

with 300+ gigs available, you will be forced to upgrade

[moriarty1889]

yes i agree it is way to small.

[danny818]

Y’all think that’s too small?! Wait till we see 4k game download sizes and the storage capacity in the ps5 and Series X lol

[Skywalker333]

One very important thing to note. Current gen games are huge because devs have to write the same data 2-3-4 times in a standard hard drive, so that the system can read them faster. With the new consoles being on SSDs, this is no longer necessary, which will save a lot in the installation sizes. Add to that the fact that you wont need to download 4k assets in this version and the capability to install/uninstall only single player/multiplayer parts of a game, this will also help massively.
And in the end we are talking about a new console that is cheaper than the ones that are already in the market for many years and will offer a very good vmf. obviously it can offer everything at that price!

[RgR]

Ive been playing a really long time. I've never needed more than a 500gb hard drive. Why keep a game you beat and will likely never play again installed?

It amazes me to see so many have an immense amount of games installed. Or maybe this is speaking from having the privelage to no data caps. If I wanna replay something I reinstall. Doesn't take long.

[hiawa23]

490 installed on my X1X, going back to the original OG Xbox on 10 TBs Samsung SSDs.

[RgR]

Thats impressive but i guess i dont have the need for much space.

[Stanjara]

I agree, but 500 is small. You will probably have 410 or 390 usable space.
Console is more of entertaining system in your living room, so

I usually have a couple of fighting games, couple of sports, racing of some kind, and something stupid installed like South park or Trover on top of what I'm currently playing.

Usually someone comes over to your house and says hey that's a console...let's play something...and you say I'm currently playing Cod and I can't show you anything else. It's next gen./s

[RgR]

Well I'm usually not playing cod. To me that really wouldn't be something to play. If I wanted zombie mode only then I believe there is a way to install only that portion for instance.

I do agree that 500 is small for a digital only console. but I get why they couldn't go higher to maintain the 300 price.

[Futureshark]

$220 for a 1TB expansion, pricey!!

https://www.windowscentral....

[ziggurcat]

Is that thing proprietary or are there 3rd party options available?

[Futureshark]

You can use a regular 3rd party HDD to play Xbox One, 360 and original Xbox games.

But if you want to play 'Series' games, you'll need to buy MS proprietary SSD as mentioned.

Be interesting to see the size of next gen games, textures will be larger, but less file duplication due to the SSD speed.

[ziggurcat]

Well, hopefully they will allow 3rd party expansions identical to theirs instead of making people buy the Xbox branded expansions.

But I'd honestly just do a regular external HDD for storage, and transfer games when I need to play them.

[FanboySpotter]

You don't know how next gen games will be managed storage wise. They could all be smaller in size

[MrPerfect813]

What would really be nice is if the OS developed a smart way of moving the games back and forth for you...instead of me moving a game off of the ssd to the external drive, i just click the game i want to play, and system picks which games to move to make space for me to play it for me, like move the oldest from the SSD that i havent touched in weeks, so i can play the one i just bought...

[Darkborn]

The specs are too low for a next gen digital only machine.

[Father Murder X]

isn't this what smart delivery is for? I find it funny that certain people complain about how small the SSD is for a non 4k machine but have nothing but praises for the 825gb SSD that is on the Ps5 digital which is a 4K machine. You guys are a joke!!!

[Father Murder X]

What are the disagrees for? The PS5 is a 4k machine with a 825 gb SSD.

[JayRyu]

People complaining about the SSD storage on Series S better bring that same energy when the more expensive 812 GB PS5 drops!

[PrinterMan]

It has convinced me that MS has indeed lost touch with its audience. Games matter, consoles don’t. MS has been dividing its gaming community enough lately but this just seals it. So much divided apppearence in games now with all this backward compatibility that the add the series S just to add one more. It’s already a backwards compatibility machine and it’s not even out yet. Sheesh. Blunder.

[Golfcoachh]

Correct me if I am wrong, what does it matter if it is digital or not, all games have to be loaded on a drive to play anyway, so even if it had a disk drive you would still fill it up and have to delete games to add games. Seems like a non starter argument to me. Yes its easier to put a disk in and reload it than off of slow internet, but you still will have the same issues even with a disk.

[Sarcasm]

It's big enough, you can fit two Call of Duties on there!

[waverider]

Its very low. There no defense here. Its a digital console.....

[Golfcoachh]

Again what does it matter. You have to install your disk on every machine anyway. So it doesn’t matter if it’s digital other than having to re-instal from the net as opposed to a disk.

[waverider]

50 gigas? 80gigas, 100gigas. Downloads....

[TheEroica]

I don't disagree, but I also don't think it's a big deal... I'm still playing on a launch ps4 and I simply delete games I'm not playing. It's never slowed me down a bit.

[kayoss]

I would expect an "all digital" console would at least have a 1tb of storage or higher.

[Niv]

It’s scary. Also 56GBs ram

[Valkron1]

If it's bad for Series X it will be the same for PS5, which will include 4k assets for all it's games. Xbox already has smaller files for non X enhanced games. That's part of the whole Smart Delivery system others mocked.

[Zeref]

Of course the one negative thing is the top story on N4G 😂

[JimNast]

This might be good for me. I can focus on just a few games and maybe make a dent in my back log.

[gamer7804]

Sorta agree. But you could get a cheap 4tb reg HD then just transfer games back and forth

[Tedakin]

The all digital PS5 is only 300 gigs more. That's enough for 1 and a half more Call of Duties. Plus the Xbox Series S isn't going to be downloading 4k textures like the PS5, so the space won't be taken up as fast.

[DethWish]

Its a scam! XSS ÷ SSD upgrade might be almpst as expensive as XSX

[S2Killinit]

They really wanted to have the lower price point, cut down way too much in that pursuit.

[Games1st]

Xbox One's 500 GB hard drive can only technically store only 362GB of content. OS isn't much different, though they could optimize space for this.

[Knightofelemia]

Game are just going to get bigger looks wise and gameplay we all ready see it with games like RDR2 which is what 100 gigs same with AC Odyssey. On PS4 and XB1 but

[Mulando]

Well the PS5 also has only ~800GB (768GiB) of memory. -OS something like 500-600 should be available. That in collaboration with higher res assets won't be good, too.
Even the 1TB of the XSX is way to small.

SSDs are just to expensive to have more of the memory and the XSS is just a console made for a lower price point. Backup HDD needed (the new loading times) like with other consoles, too.

[Kaze88]

Some rumors are stating that the memory "cards" are around 200-250 dollars for 1tb expansion. goddam.

[kryteris]

ya well you can expand the storage, that weak ass gpu is a hell no.

[Binarycode]

its not a 4k box. wont need 4k assets. won`t be able to handle it.

4tf machine with 128bit bus.

and only 8gb ram.

its made completely for gamespass which is why microsoft said they were not fighting sony.

They have to find another path. PS5 will be too strong.

[glenn1979]

Agreed but they some dicompressing right ala Kracken for PS5

[anubusgold]

1Tb isnt good as well i have 5 1T ssds in My pc. And my steam library will not fit on that at all. Call of duty is 300Gb . Battlefield 5 and 4 are like 120GB as well and then world of warcraft is like 100Gb.

[catlover316]

You dont have to have everything installed at once, but yes it is annoying.

[catlover316]

I think they expect people to buy their expansion drives, kind of makes me lean towards ps5 which uses off the shelf nvme drives.

[ConsoleAgnostic]

The PS5 is only 825 GB...and they are using 4k assets. Extra space is always good...but for what this console does, it is a non issue. This console is not for me...and probably not for you, but I do see the value here.

[JayRyu]

@Catlover
No all NVME drive will work. Very said that sony will release a list of compatible drives that will work with the PS5, and not to buy anything yet. We don't know how much these compatible drives will cost either. If your looking online you're talking about drives that cost over 100 dollars US