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Warner Bros. Games division isn't being sold yet, remains part of AT&T

According to a letter from WarnerMedia CEO Jason Kilar, Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment is remaining for part of the Studios and Networks group. For now, it appears the division isn't being sold.

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phoenixwing1358d ago (Edited 1358d ago )

probably the best thing that could have happened. hopefully at&t doesn't cut their funding though for the games.

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YourMommySpoils1358d ago

All those companies that wonted to buy it, would destroy it anyway.

blue881358d ago (Edited 1358d ago )

TylerID@ Especially Ea and Microsoft 😂.

L7CHAPEL1357d ago

EA would.
obviously you've got an ax to grind with Microsoft (what a surprise)
the biggest problem they have is that most people go to buy or acquire studios, based on the IP.
so unless these guys have something undercover they're working on, or some individual projects that could really yield results, just picking up studios is acquiring their debt without any real assets to go with it.
nobody makes that deal that knows what they're doing.

Darkborn1357d ago

@L7CHAPEL most real gamers do have an axe to grind with Microsoft. They made promises over and over and never did any of them. They should run for office as politicians at this point. What good games have actually come out of a studio owned by Microsoft this past gen?

Atticus_finch1358d ago

At&t would be crazy to sell. I doubt they will.

L7CHAPEL1357d ago

if they knew what they were doing they wouldn't be in the situation where It's being talked about.
I doubt they know how to run gaming studios, any more than they do their streaming service 4 TV.
I think it's just a question of them selling it before they destroy it, because it's not going to yield them results if they don't know what they're doing.
obviously they want to unload the studios because of their debt.

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Silly gameAr1358d ago

I would say I'm upset about that, but I'm not. All of the companies bidding for the WB gaming division, where the WORST possible choices.

blue881358d ago

Yes thank god Imagining Ea or Microsoft buying wb games was a nightmare.

L7CHAPEL1357d ago

yeah yeah w/ all the Microsoft hating, only studios they closed are ones that ran out of ideas, and couldn't deliver when they closed studios,yet everyone wants to claim that they were overseeing them like some sort of dictators, they weren't.
those studios were free to develop and come up with their own ideas.
but a lot of them, other than the main line property that they would work with, didn't. they got rid of lionhead because all of their creative leads and tech people left.
name one famous studio they shutterd, that was extremely successful and they just got rid of them?

everybody wants to look at Sony with rose colored glasses, again, they shuddered plenty of studios. what they did with socom developer, zipper interactive was very cut-throat.
you don't hear people talking about it though,
do you ?

TheEnigma3131357d ago (Edited 1357d ago )

MS has lost faith with gamers. Only hardcore fans look passed what they’ve been doing. They have to prove themselves. Stop being defensive like MS doesn’t have a Bad track record

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morganfell1357d ago (Edited 1357d ago )

"MS would turn it into crap with GAAS. MS are ruining games."

This. They might call it something else and wave their hands but they are ramming their foot down on the pedal. They are going to do it with their flagship so they will have no compunction about following suit with a purchased property.

"MS has lost faith with gamers. Only hardcore fans look passed what they’ve been doing."

There are two ways to become number one in the gaming world. Serve gamers, give them what they want, and find yourself on top. Then there is the MS approach. Decide on a direction and twist every arm, throw money around to try and bend gamers to your direction. There are some people on this board that believe those two approaches are the same and offer gamers the same experience when they clearly do not. It is a simplistic viewpoint at best not to see the difference. Every time they try some arm twisting method they fail so they back up and try to run over gamers from a different direction.

If you look at the big three they are the most inconsistent company around. It is because all they are interested in is running the show. Every company does but the approach makes all the difference. When they can't rule in one direction they back up and try some completely new tack. None of those methods put the gamer front and center while offering them true and lasting value. Their latest GaaS approach is nothing more than drug dealing in an attempt to hook players into having to constantly pay for everything while owning nothing.

"How do we offer the gamers titles and experiences they value and want, that are a financial boon for our company" vs "How do we get gamers to constantly pay for our services"

RauLeCreuset1357d ago

"name one famous studio they shutterd, that was extremely successful and they just got rid of them?"

What studios have they had that have been extremely successful?

"everybody wants to look at Sony with rose colored glasses, again, they shuddered plenty of studios. what they did with socom developer, zipper interactive was very cut-throat. you don't hear people talking about it though, do you ?"

That's not hard to understand. Their other studios continue to deliver. It's the difference between a star studded team losing some talent and still remaining in championship contention versus a team that has never won and often struggles to make the playoffs getting rid of talent. To repeat a point I just made in another article, PS3 had an exclusives problem when many big 3rd party franchises that were formerly exclusive went multiplat. By the end of THAT gen just one PS studio had introduced two big GOTY contending franchises in bringing Uncharted 1-3 and TLOU to PS3.

You're trying to force this false equivalency, but the truth you don't want to accept is that PS and Xbox aren't on the same level. PS and Xbox have fought three times. Xbox lost all three fights and had one close bout before being dominated again. To borrow a line from Daniel Cormier, if PS wins all 3 fights, there is no rivalry.

rainslacker1357d ago (Edited 1357d ago )

They shut down lionhead. Bungie wanted to make something besides halo, so ended up leaving MS. Rare I suppose is making what they want, for whatever that's worth.

MS brought it's new studios knowing what they were making, or wanted to make. If those games arent successful, I'd be worried about those studios long term prospects. Rapid growth can also lead to rapid downsizing if it doesnt produce the desired results. Might be a while, but saying it's all good now is premature. It's ok to be optimistic, and that is preferable, but blind faith that all will go well is ignorant.

For now, I'll just wait and see what they will bring. MS is doing what they should have done years ago, so I cant fault them for doing what people said they needed to do. Doesnt mean I have to believe they're going to do better. MS history suggests that studio closures are more likely than them cultivating them through potentially rough times.

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Steam’s Refund Policy Change Won’t Affect You Unless You’re A Lowlife

Steam is changing its refund policy, but you probably won’t be affected

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thorstein15h ago

Should have happened a long time ago. People wanting refunds after 50 hours in game.

fsfsxii11h ago

Pc gamers will take this as an excuse to pirate things

KyRo11h ago

I'm not sure why you're getting disgrees. Whilst not all PC gamers are petty, an awful lot of them are lol

Crows9010h ago

Entirely untrue. Not any more petty than console gamers. The only large difference is console gamers don't have much of a choice.

Michiel19892h ago

Not sure why you're getting agrees. an awful lot of console gamers are overemotional twinks ready to go to war over a plastic box, I'll take being a pc gamer then.

Speaking about overgeneralizing much.

qalpha11h ago

Daily reminder that 'TheGamer' is a corporate-generated, anti-gamer, anti-consumer, clickbait web site. They are mostly A.I. generated articles that villainize gamers. They provide nothing positive and actively try to provoke and divide the community through extreme view points and politics. Do not give them any clicks.

Inverno11h ago

Only scumbags? As if people don't play their games on console put in the most amount of hours and return it to GameStop and trade it in for another game. But also how many people are actually do this? And what games have been allowed to be refunded?

DustMan11h ago

You can refund any game you've purchased as long as it hasn't been longer than two weeks, and you've played less than 2 hours. I wish they would change it to 3 hours because some RPG's have so much exposition that you may only get an hour total of complete gameplay. That's my only knock on it. I've refunded plenty of stuff I was just curious to try. I typically stay away from Early Access titles which are the only ones affected by this policy change.

Inverno10h ago

Apparently early access doesn't count, only complete games with a play early preorder bonus.

Gaming4Life198111h ago

I definitely know if I want a refund in 2 hours.

SegaSaturn6692h ago

I never liked refunding anything. Even if a film is bad, i dont want my money back. Sometimes things just aren't for me, and it's not the creator's fault necessarily.

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Outriders Dev's Next Game Has Been Canceled After Publishing Agreement With Take-Two Fell Through

Outriders developer People Can Fly's next game has been canceled after its publishing agreement with Take-Two Interactive fell through.

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Tacoboto2d ago

"the capital group of PCF Group S.A."

If you're getting funding from a group that needs two different ways of Acronyming itself, things will not go the way you want them to.

banger882d ago

If it was more online-only crap then good riddance.

jjb19811d 14h ago

Outriders was crap. They slapped that game together and threw in a loot system to get players' attention. This game was absolutely jank and the always online nonsense made it stutter like crazy. People Can't Optimize.

thorstein1d 13h ago

I liked Outriders but I could see where the artistic vision was compromised. The way the industry is now, it wouldn't surprise me that upper management would scrap something that didn't pull in money via gaas, mts, or other means.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv722d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1d 18h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18811d 15h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio1d 15h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771d 10h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga1d 18h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721d 4h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer199223h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21831d 17h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga1d 16h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan1d 12h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1d 4h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus231d 11h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721d 10h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier23h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan14h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1011d 20h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d 20h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1d 10h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac1d 19h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011d 19h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic1d 17h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1d 10h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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