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How big is the graphical improvement on PS5? Horizon 2 PS5 compared with Horizon Zero Dawn PS4

The PlayStation 5 will be several times more powerful than the PlayStation 4. But how big is the difference in graphics? Direct feed screenshots give a good comparison of what to expect.

iplay1up21430d ago

These "comparison pictures" are not very good. Horizon on PS4 looks fantastic, and no doubt Horizon 2 will be even better looking.

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I_am_Batman1428d ago

Here are some animated comparisons I've made of similar scenes taken from cinematic trailers of HZD and HFW. Unfortunately I had to shrink them down, because the file size is pretty big on these. Be careful if you have a data cap these are around 25MB each and might take a while to open depending on your bandwidth:

Flying machines:
https://drive.google.com/fi...

Aloy reaches peak & looks into the distance:
https://drive.google.com/fi...

Aloy riding a machine:
https://drive.google.com/fi...

Even with the reduced resolution and compression it's pretty obvious how much of a step up Forbidden west is compared to Zero Dawn. Foliage density, asset variety and quality, lighting, character details are all vastly improved. Can't wait to see some gameplay.

UltraNova1428d ago

I_am_Batman,

Great work there. LOD both up close and in distance is vastly improved. Do you have any side by side stills?

starchild1428d ago

It's definitely quite a significant jump forward in visual quality. I immediately noticed the denser grass and other foliage, as well as the other things you mentioned. A lot of people just look at the art direction and assume they're a lot closer in quality than they really are. I notice this happens with multiplats on consoles compared to PC. People focus on the fact they have the same underlying art and world design and often don't really notice all the ways they are improved on PC with things like better shadow quality, denser vegetation, better texture quality, better LOD, less pop-in, added effects, higher precision effects, etc.

Epicor1427d ago (Edited 1427d ago )

Thanks for putting this up. Personally, I'm bit tired with this dick-sucking hype train. I mean all PS5 games look impressive, no doubt. But are we honestly fooling ourselves in thinking that the graphical step from late gen PS4 to PS5 is that significant!? Especially compared to previous gen graphical steps (PS1 --> PS2, PS2 --> PS3, PS3 --> PS4). I'm willing to take the hit and get all the disagree but c'mon guys: the graphical step this gen will not be as big as we have used to. Sure if you really zoom in and try to analyse every single ray tracing effect and play the game on top end big ass 4K TV, sure you can see a difference. But to average Joe the graphical leap won't be super noticeable. Some late gen PS4 games (e.g. Last of us part 2) probably looks even better than some of the PS5 launch titles. Look at these 560p comparison videos of Horizon: the difference is NOT AS BIG as you make it sound. Honestly it took me a while to even recognise that what clips were from original Horizon and which where Forbidden West scenes, especially with this compressed material. Same will go many average Joes who are still running their "HD ready" (720p) or full HD TV's without HDR color support.

I'm not a hater. I'm a huge Sony fanboi and I've owned all of their consoles and played almost exclusively only on PlayStation since the release of the original PlayStation. But god damn I hate the level of fan boyism that N4G, certain sub reddits, and online forums in general posses. Next gen will be AMAZING. PS5 games look good now and they will look even better in few years. But the technological leaps in terms of graphical fidelity are not and will never again be as great as they have been with previous console generations. Same has happened with PC already many years ago. Graphical improvements are only incremental nowadays as we have already reached that good level of graphical fidelity. Only area where graphics are still truly improving is VR (just look at Half Life Alyx!). I will buy PS5 day 1 for sure. And I'm expecting it to have the best game in the industry (as PS always has had). But let's pull our heads out of each others' assholes, please.

Silly gameAr1428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

None of these comparisons are good, but they keep making them and they keep getting approved.

WelkinCole1428d ago

As someone that has put more than 100hrs in hzd. I can clearly see the difference. The lighting and textures in general are more realistic for starters.

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IRetrouk1428d ago

Bit early to be honest, but the jump is obvious.

LOGICWINS1428d ago

The Horizon 2 trailer wasn't gameplay...it was "in-engine"...just like the AC Valhalla trailer during Inside Xbox and the Hellblade 2 trailer at the VGAs.

Let's keep the same energy. Unless we see a gameplay demo (like Rachet and Clank), we can't make a determination.

IRetrouk1428d ago (Edited 1428d ago )

The jump is obvious because it's on a next gen system, ofcourse it's going to look better, but like I said it's really too early because we have seen so little of the new one. And no not like those games, sony said everything was running on a ps5, hellblade was running at 24fps and ac wasnt even running on the xbox hardware, just equivalent pc specs, not really alike at all.

monkey6021428d ago

Quite a few sites have done this comparison too. Like gameranx. Doesn't make any sense.
Ratchet and clank shows a huge jump but with Horizon its essentially a CG trailer not fully representative of the game so no comparison can be drawn

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Charlieboy3331428d ago

Difference is that with the original 'in engine' turned out to be exactly what was 'in game'. I expect the same.

LOGICWINS1428d ago

@charlieboy333 I have no doubt that Horizon 2 will look gorgeous given Guerilla Games' pedigree....but I need to see it in action. The last game looked great, but I'd like to see a higher framerate this time around.

AKS1427d ago

The transition sequences in the original Horizon (outside of closeups of faces in dialogue heavy scenes) tended to match the look of the game play very closely throughout the game. It will look very similar to the scenes where she's looking up at the Snapmaw underwater and riding through the grassy areas. Even Xbox channels like Dealer Gaming didn't question it much because he knows how the first game looked.

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KilluaX31428d ago

Hopefully this game comes to PC eventually like the first one so I will be able to play this at 60fps and beyond. I would get this for PS5 but I know the devs don't care about how the game feels to play and thus won't offer any 60fps modes. I'm not going to pay 600 bucks for another LowframeStation. 300 bucks is the most I'll pay for it.

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xX-oldboy-Xx1428d ago

Haha - Pathetic attempt mate, you can apply dream that Sony keeps feeding you good games. Enjoy your pissy indies and VALORANT potato graphics.

OT: HZFW looks leagues ahead of HZD - just wait until launch before these comparisons taken seriously.

throne1428d ago

you pc fans all want ps games but hate playstation lol....you'll probably wait till ps6 is out b4 this one comes to pc and since it supports the dual sense, we all will be enjoying what it has to over, soon they be asking for dual sense support

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DG901428d ago

Imagine getting a kick of posting troll comments you sad sad person. You need a girlfriend or something.

Sunny_D1428d ago

@rocketleague

You do know Rocket League plays at 60 FPS on all platforms right?

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DrDeath1428d ago

We saw no gameplay. So it's silly to compare them at all. We need to compare real assets not touched up cutscenes.

I was playing horizon yesterday in 4k and it's still a great looking game. One of the best with its artistic visuals j would say. It was also allot of fun just messing around and hunting robots and finally starting the frozen wilds dlc (which is sorta tough)

No doubt Horizon 2 will be one of the best looking games around the second time. That reveal was beautiful and impressive still.

FITSniper1428d ago

Frozen Wilds wasn't anything new to the game really but it was more of the greatness that is HZD.

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ssj271428d ago

We didn't saw raw gameplay like rancht n clack or gt7 but we did saw gameplay if you couldn't tell the difference watching the video what was gameplay you are clearly never played the first game. Plus everything was captured on the ps5 could have been touch up? Sure i wouldn't be surprised if they add makeup to it

DrDeath1426d ago

I watched the reveal. Maybe we saw a glimps of gameplay with aloy riding a strider. But otherwise nothing else

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Sony Has Added More Titles To The List of Games Leaving PS Plus In May 2024

Sony Interactive Entertainment has added a few more titles to the list of games that will be leaving PS Plus in May, 2024.

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darthv729d ago

curious... if a game leaves PS+, does it make it unplayable if you have already claimed it before it leaves? I know on the XB side, games leaving Gamepass are no longer playable. You need to pay for them to be able to continue playing after you installed them from GP.

CrimsonWing699d ago

The 3 monthly “free” games you keep as long as you have PS+ subscription. The PS+ library is like Netflix. They rotate stuff out and replace them with other titles.

MrNinosan9d ago

Yes, PS+ Extra/Premium games are unplayable after the leave the service, just like GamePass and Netflix.
PS+ Essentials games are available as long as you have an active PS+ account.

Profchaos9d ago

Monthly games, special promos like the free games during COVID or PS plus bundle on ps5 are forever yours. Premium and above are time limited

If you claim a game on the premium tier (not yours to keep) and it comes out as a monthly games later e.g. fallout 76 it appears you do not retain ownership on that one.

Notsofast9d ago

The 3-4 monthly games that are free that are part of every service are yours forever I canceled my service over a year and you never lose access. I dont know what these other comments are talking about maybe they are in a different country but in the USA I could play any game I claimed of the free monthly games

MrNinosan8d ago

Then one of the accounts on your PS5 probably has a PS+ Essential subscription.
Because the 3-4 PS+ games you get every month, is not available to be played if you don't have an active sunscription.
It's the same in US, Europe, Japan and everywhere else.

Petebloodyonion8d ago

Essential stays in your library
Extra and premium become locked when titles leave the service.

It's actually one of my gripes with Extra, you can't remove the title from your own library, so basically it countss as one your title but it's locked so you own library become a cluster F... unless you filter your titles.

MrNinosan8d ago

Well you can just chose to hide them.

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-Foxtrot9d ago

Wonder if Horizon ZD leaving gives credit to those remake rumours

Sigh. If true…another remake that’s not Bloodborne.

SimpleDad9d ago

Probably yes cause of a remake.

Skuletor9d ago

I still remember them giving that one away for free, regardless of if you were subscribed to Plus or not

ApocalypseShadow9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

They did. It was during the pandemic and the "play at home" initiative.

Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition. Sony gave away a lot of games just to push gamers to stay home and not get infected by COVID.

Eonjay9d ago

I think you're right.
There is a separate Bloodborne rumor by the remake is allegedly scheduled for next gen.

Kingrizzy909d ago

Yes cause of the remake good thing I got the plat
And is bloodborn really that good? I never played it due to being Incarcerated 8½ years but I read the comics. It's pretty dark

Profchaos9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Highly likely I also bet the remaster will be over priced and under whelming.

I'd also bet most people will simply stick with the PS4 pro and ps5 60fps patch over paying to upgrade when it offers the bare minimum.

I hope Sony has learnt from the last of us 2 and stop remastering games that just came out they have nearly 30 years of content to work with but always remaster games that are like 5 years old and don't need it. I assume this was In development alongside tlou2 so fingers crossed this is the last time we get this because what's next god of war on PS4 to ps5 for 70 dollars probably anything outside of bloodborne

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Friendlygamer9d ago

Glad I played sundered and the messenger, both great 2d games

gold_drake9d ago

ahh the messenger is such a good game.

u should play sea of starts. same people, its a sort of prequel to the messenger tok

Friendlygamer8d ago

Oh I will definitely play it eventually, chained echoes too

Jingsing8d ago

Can N4G adopt a policy of games leaving subscription services as not being a new story, it is just spam at this point.

Petebloodyonion8d ago

Is it me or have there been a lot of great games leaving the extra tier but barely anything in terms of wow factor joining the service in return?
When was the last time that Sony added a PlayStation studio game?
Now I don't expect Sony to have day 1 like Gamepass but I would expect to at least care to make the offering interesting especially when they raised the price by 30% last year.

MrNinosan8d ago

PS Studio Games:
May - Destiny 2: Lightfall
April - MediEvil, Jak&Daxter: The Lost Frontier,
March - CoolBoarders

What Playstation Studio games is it you're missing?

Petebloodyonion8d ago

Sight...
let me check my comment again
" Is it me or have there been a lot of great games leaving the extra tier but barely anything in terms of wow factor joining the service in return? "
Yeah pretty sure I mentioned the EXTRA tier and not the PREMIUM tier
but glad that you consider a DLC to a free-to-play game a great offering

MrNinosan8d ago

I repeat my question, what PS Studio games is it you're missing?

And regarding the first part of your comment, lots of great games leaving and nothing added?

What great games iyo has left the service?
For me, "wow-factor games added would be".
Dave the Diver, Tales of Kenzera, Raji, Miasma, The Outer Worlds, Resident Evil 3, Ace Attorney, Rainbow Six Siege, AC: Valhalla, Far Cry 6, Watch Dogs Legion, Both Southpark jrpgs, Fenyx Rising, Tales of Arise, Session, Lego Worlds, Vampire the Masquerade Swansong, Legends of Mana....

And many more.

Compared to what has been removed, the adds are better than the 'offs'.

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DF Weekly: Do we actually need The Last of Us Part 2 and Horizon Zero Dawn remasters?

With the details we now have in terms of features and pricing, I don't think there are any significant concerns remaining - just that perhaps that the term 'remastered' in the title is a little misplaced. Essentially, what we're dealing with here is broadly equivalent to a release along the lines of Death Stranding: Director's Cut. It's the original game with a dash of extra content and additional visual modes that tap into the power of PlayStation 5.

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-Foxtrot167d ago

Bloodborne, Infamous, Killzone, Resistance, Puppeteer, Jak and Daxter etc are all better choices

Even a full on remake of Drakes Fortune I’d take

PrinceOfAnger167d ago

killzone 2/3 definitely a better choice, i have recently finished the games on pc and thought about that, a full remake like demon souls is even better

darthv72167d ago

2&3 are still fine... I'd take the first one as a full remake before the others. They could flesh out more of the backstory that the sequels touch on. Even go deeper into the lore of Helgan.

specialguest167d ago

KZ 2/3 would be amazing. KZ 2 was a graphical masterpiece back then. With today's modern tech, all of those tricks Guerilla Games did to create the effects like the lighting, storm effects, etc, they could now be done in real-time and more realistic

Cacabunga166d ago

Killzone 2-3
Golden Abyss remake
Infamous 2

RaidenBlack167d ago

Uncharted 1 still got a decent remaster for 8th gen ... a remake is not that much of a requirement ...
instead remake candidates should be from 5th or 6th gen
and as for proper remasters (not just lazy res upscale): Killzone 2 & 3 obviously and also Resistance/inFamous (as well as MGS4 :P)

-Foxtrot167d ago

My point with the list is that I’d rather see those titles than what we are getting…titles which are only 3-5 years old and still hold up today

CrashMania167d ago

Sony own the Demons Souls and Bloodborne IP, I wish they'd do something with Bloodborne at the very least.

vfl523167d ago

The way you worded that makes me think you don't realize they already remade demon souls

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GamingSinceForever167d ago

Not one of those will sell more copies than TLOU2 Remaster. The sooner we realize that these gaming sites and their followers are less than 1% of the buying public the better off we’ll be.

Sure we prefer newer titles but this is business and a business is what Sony is running.

JackBNimble167d ago

Don't you think they could be doing something better with their time and money, like maybe making something new? Or have they become lazy and just reliving the past with the same old games over and over.

Gez ... do something fresh and new already .

notachance167d ago

I'd rather for them to go Square Enix route and remake/remaster their PS1 libraries instead of these unnecessary remaster

come on, legend of dragoon..

Gamingsince1981167d ago

What's with the "need" anyway ? This is video games, no one needs them at all, we need water , we need air, we don't need games.

Barlos167d ago

I would love a remake/remaster of KZ1. For its time it really pushed the PS2 hard and because of that it had a few issues. This is begging to be given the Bluepoint touch and brought up to date. I'd love to see an updated Killzone trilogy collection for sure.

Yi-Long167d ago

Sony killed the game and the studio behind it, but a Remaster of the excellent Driveclub would absolutely be my favorite release if it happened. Just a delicious racing game.

FinalFantasyFanatic166d ago (Edited 166d ago )

So many better choices, I can't fathom why reasonably recent games are getting picked over Classics that are more deserving.

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Battlestar23167d ago

Well I want a Horizon Zero Dawn remaster especially if it's an upgrade to Forbidden West Graphics and Animation.

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Duke19167d ago

Nope. But HD remasters are an easy cash grab that the masses shovel cash for because while they complain about remakes, they still buy them

PRIMORDUS167d ago

Not if they release on a platform that never received the original in the first place like PC.

46player166d ago

No complaint here, I want the updated graphics.

Ra3030167d ago

My thoughts on this is do we need Richard Leadbetter's or Digital Foundry's opinion on anything........ever? I know I don't they do nothing for me and never have.

specialguest167d ago

You may not, but tons of people do since the video has 4,700 Likes to 112 Dislikes

Chocoburger167d ago

That guy is a buffoon, DF Direct is the best gaming podcast around. I look forward to it every week.

BehindTheRows166d ago

By that same token, some may not NEED remasters, while others may/do.

Amplitude167d ago (Edited 167d ago )

DF videos are typically absolutely amazing game reviews first and foremost. They have great intros, explain the mechanics well, tell you if they enjoyed it or not (I usually vibe well with John's games personally), and then they have the best tech breakdowns of a game's performance which is very very important to me. I want to know what settings to run at on PC, and on PS5 I wanna know if the 60fps mode runs well or not because if it doesn't... well I'll just get it on PC (If it isn't completely broken there too). DF Retro is also always unbelievably interesting and super well edited and inspired my YouTube channel which just crossed 1200 subs (wooo!). They helped me a lot with understanding game development and got me interested in goofing around with game engines and PC building in general back in the day.

I don't mean any offence by this but you sound like somebody who skims their analysis videos, selectively scrolls to the stats, says "who cares?", and then closes it. Or possibly somebody who watches (stolen) cut clips on TikTok? Even if you are somehow unaffected by blurry images and fluctuating frame rates (some people are and I envy you) I recommend watching a full DF episode one day. They're extremely interesting and I watch literally all of them even if I have no interest in the game.

VonAlbrecht167d ago

"I personally don't enjoy this extremely well-presented and highly informative content so it shouldn't exist."

-Ra3030, Nobel Peace Prize Nominee

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Joris de Man on composing music for the Horizon series

In the video game industry, where visual design and game mechanics typically grab the limelight, the significance of music in enhancing the overall gaming experience is often underestimated. Music can be a key component in the player’s emotional connection with a game. It amplifies emotional impact, heightens tension, and can be a powerful driver of narrative. We’ve had the chance to speak to Joris de Man, a renowned Dutch composer best known for his work on the Killzone series, Horizon: Zero Dawn, and its sequel Horizon: Forbidden West. During the Game Access conference in Brno, we talked about the process of composing music for video games and how he created the harmonies that have shaped some of our most beloved gaming experiences.

Sonic1881333d ago (Edited 333d ago )

To keep using him as the music composer in their games.

ChronoJoe332d ago

Joris seems like a great guy. I spoke to him briefly once about how much I loved his music and he was really friendly/humble.