Diablo 4 is in development, and it started as a Souls-like

An in-depth report suggests that Diablo IV has had a fraught development, but it's on the way.

[Jimboms]

I would have been so into that!

[Seraphim]

as a spin off or something in the Diablo world I don't have a problem with that. Matter of fact it might be interesting if they pulled it off. As a mainline game, absolutely not.

In all honesty though I think Blizzard really nailed it with Diablo 3. Simply following that formula, making some improvements, perhaps a few tweaks/additions is really all that's required. Long as the level design is solid, game play is similar, etc. To date Diablo 3 is still a game I can pick up at any time and thoroughly enjoy. It's combat, world, classes, drops, goblins, Rifts, Paragon system, Seasons, everything about D3 makes it just a great game. Though I definitely wish there was more map to play and more classes to level up. So far, since release on PS4 I've replayed D3 and went on to play with every class except Demon Hunter and Necro so far. Next time I pick the game up or have time to kill I'll likely knock one or both those classes out. Forget exactly where I'm at and I know it;s low compared to many who've played D3 but I have something like 400 Paragon if I recall. For me a game is completed and that's pretty much it. Maybe stick around for a few trophies or the platinum if I'm enjoying it but overall once it's done, it's done Replaying or going back to a game is incredibly rare for several reasons. So for Diablo to continuously engage me when I have the time or desire to go back and continue to do so year after year really says something; at least to me.

[TekoIie]

@ButtAnihilator

"At this point you'd want some exciting changes to the series, instead of just more of the same."

A mobile version good enough?

[Sirk7x]

I would like a return to a more Gothic artstyle with Diablo 4, akin to 2. D3 was a very fun game, but it just felt too happy/colorful for the setting. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing wrong with colorful games, as I play tons of Nintendo games. It just didn't feel right.

[Muzikguy]

No way. I think this would have turned more people away. I definitely wouldn't want it. Not as a main game. I'd like to see more like Diablo 2 again. I really think 3 messed up big time coming off the success of 2

[lelo2play]

Thank God they didn't follow Dark Souls. To be stressed out simply by playing a game is not for me.
I'm no masochist... I play games to have fun.

[Felix_Argyle_Catbro]

Sometimes you must put in the effort to learn to play.

[lelo2play]

Simply don't like the game. I find the gameplay clunky as hell and stressful.
I remember playing Dark Souls where I killed all the enemies at a section to reach the boss, after being killed by the boss, i had to repeat the whole section, killing the same enemies to reach the boss again... after that, I knew the game wasn't for me.
Like I said, I play games to have fun. Daily life stress is more then enough for me, don't need a game to increase it.

[Lexreborn2]

@lelo2play that’s how we used to play games in the old days. Mega mans a prime example... or Mario.... or donkey Kong.... or any game when you didn’t have save states

[patrickman]

Is it really that hard for you? I had fun with both Dark Souls and Diablo though.

[Yui_Suzumiya]

In Demon's Souls I got to the first few skeleton enemies after the tutorial area and that was as far as I could get. I began gaming in 1990 on the NES as well.

[I_am_Batman]

"I remember playing Dark Souls where I killed all the enemies at a section to reach the boss, after being killed by the boss, i had to repeat the whole section, killing the same enemies to reach the boss again... after that, I knew the game wasn't for me."

That's why you open up shortcuts, learn enemy patterns and memorize the level design. That's a huge part of what makes these games so rewarding. Going through a new area you are supposed to learn about those things. When you come back the things that seemed hard the first time are going to be much easier when you are paying attention. Also most of the time you aren't required to clear an area out at all.

[lelo2play]

No thanks. I tried it and simply don't like the game. End of story.

[Ricegum]

Lelo

No need to be rude bud.

[pyroxxx]

you can also run to the boss most of the time, but game can be kinda pain in the ass,.. especially DKS1,.. where you need all the armors for one stupid trophy,.. and on NG+ or ++ it gets some things get really stupidly hard (Orstein &Smough fight with killing fatty first to get the other armor)

[I_am_Batman]

That's fine. I'm not trying to convince you. I was just debunking your argument that you have to be a masochist to enjoy these games. I don't want people that never tried these games to read your comment and think that the game is stressful by design or you have to grind your way through hordes of enemies every time you die to achieve progress.

[lelo2play]

Quite frankly, that's how this game feels to me. If they just added a save-point before the boss, that would improve the game so much more.
The way it's made, it just feels like a waste of time repeating the same section (killing dozens of enemies) over and over until you beat the boss.

[Dragonscale]

Adding a save point just before a boss would be pointless. If you don't like the souls games fine, just play something else. Obviously the games aren't for you.

[KTF26]

You don't have to kill all enemies
run away until you reach the boss is a good strategy in dark souls

[ninsigma]

" gameplay clunky as hell"
"I killed all the enemies at a section to reach the boss, after being killed by the boss, i had to repeat the whole section, killing the same enemies to reach the boss again"

That's exactly why I didn't like demon souls. Did not enjoy the gameplay. Died. Had to do it all again. Turned it off. It's not the difficulty that I had a problem with or even having to fight the enemies again, it was the having to go through that clunky combat again. I played bloodborne and I loved it because the gameplay was far better. Never had a problem of having to fight the enemies again and again because I found the combat far more fun. Dark souls 3 is the same. Much improved gameplay in 3 over the previous souls games.

[MoshA]

I love that about dark souls. Puts casuals off thinking the game is psychopathic or something. Easily worth enduring all that just for the soundtrack.

[TheGoodestBoi]

Not sure why you're getting so many disagrees. Diablo should just stick to being Diablo

[jznrpg]

Masochist ? I’d say impatient and not willing to pay attention enough to figure out the obvious patterns. Souls games aren’t hard like most people make them out to be, you just have to pay attention and not try to button mash your way through. And you can always summon help which makes it way easier

[william_cade]

In my opinion Souls-Borne games are some of the best and most fun games out there. Bloodborne and DS3 are mechanically beautiful.

[Psychotica]

The feeling of accomplishment is the fun..

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

Such a dumb comment i'm no Masochist and love souls, geta clue.

[Imalwaysright]

Whole section? When I was a kid if we saw the game over screen we had to start from the beggining and in those days games weren't just difficult, they were also unfair.

[Relientk77]

It should be like Diablo, not Souls. Blizzard better not screw this game up dammit, already been waiting years for Diablo 4.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Interesting

[sinspirit]

They really could fit a lot of Diablo elements into a mix of Souls and Dragons Dogma type games, but it would be silly to do this with the main series name.

[Bhuahahaha]

sorry but i see this(diablo4 in dev) as an afterthought, after the sh!t storm DI has brought.
maybe that soul like in dev is a new IP or something and say its a cancel diablo to calm fans.

[jznrpg]

This would piss off Diabl fans most likely. A spin-off would be the way to go for copycat game

[CrimsonWing69]

They should’ve made this.

[chris235]

uh, sorry. i am sure there are some diehards wo just love to bite their teeth into the next installment of this tired franchise. but i guess the rest will not be so thrilled. i hope they will not act too butthurt when the sales fugures will not be as desired. on the other hand, they can partake in every sale there is. maybe over time they will get their proper income from this game. personally, i have had already enough when disblo 2 came along.

[william_cade]

I really hope they go back to a souls like game - I would put no less than 200 hrs into that

[bluefox755]

...but why?

[on_line_forever]

It will be the first Diablo game i play if they make it Souls-like

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

It's amazing how many games have been influenced by Souls, Miyasaki is a damn genius,

[DVAcme]

"And it started as a Souls-like". I imagine they had nothing to show cause they realized halfway through that only From can make Souls games worth a damn and scrapped everything to start from scratch.

[CrystalFantasy3]

Look at what made Diablo 2 good. Try to get some of the good stuff from 3 wnd there is 4. It's not rocket science blizzard

[Casepb]

WTF is Blizzard smoking right now? How can they be so lost. I'm seriously wondering why they are making this so hard when it's so easy. Just basically make Diablo 4 how 2 was but with more classes and new and interesting places and enemies. Why are they wanting to drastically change the formula so much?

[quent]

"souls like", So they wanted to add a stamina bar ?

[PurpHerbison]

Better have a solid art direction this time around. D3 really wet the bed with the cartoony WoW look.

[MadLad]

I mean, I play Diablo because I want Diablo.
I want DS because I like DS.

Can I just have the thing I know is the thing?

[NovusTerminus]

I'm not opposed to a camera angle shift, but the gameplay mechanics and skill system should remain they way they are, I love D3 (Never played the older ones, Though I should) the only thing I want in D4 if it is still top down is the ability to move with WSAD or use a controller, I don't like the movement in the PC version.

Only thing about a camera angle shift is that it might be hard to see what's going on around you in 3'rd person when you start fighting 50+ enemies in a small hallway, as opposed to top down.

[Orionsangel]

Is this an April Fools joke?