MIAMI (WSVN) - Students at a South Florida school are giving up specific video games to show they’re against virtual violence in the wake of the recent Parkland school shooting.
Tthen just don't play those so called violent video games .. and while you're at it, stay off the internet, stop watching the news, and no longer go to the movies
Don't forget books, magazines, comics, listen to music, and life in general. It reminds me of PETA wanting to ban Pokemon because it encourages Animal cruelty, and was laughed out of court. Uneducated people need to be reminded the media as a whole is not to blame at all, and 99% of these "school shootings" can easily be fixed by teachers and parents. It's bullying, teachers who are only out for a paycheck, and parents who do nothing are the ones to be erased. I don't hear about a lot of this in other countries, just the US. So what does that tell us about our system for the younger generation?
A lot of other countries don’t have violent video games and easy access to guns at the same time. You have to understand all of the facts. I applaud their efforts to make a change, however as an adult I still prefer to play what I want. We all have to agree that several things need to change. This generation has been desensitized to violence.
@GamingSinceForever. Find a map. Find the USA. Look north (above on the map.) See Canada. Canada has the exact same games and movies, comic books, and violence on TV. They even allow nudity on TV after 10PM. And guess what else they have plenty of: GUNS, GUNS, GUNS. And guess what they don't have, gun murders. END OF RANT. I digress, sorry, for Syriel and Tets, Not sure if you are old enough to remember, but before video games and PG movies like Jaws and Ghostbusters, the real culprit to all the killing was Dungeons and Dragons and Rock and Roll. Books too, but mostly Dungeons and Dragons and Rock and Roll. That is why idiotic statements by people who don't know what they are talking about don't further the discussion or the solutions.
Don't forget about the News, where they show dead people LIVE.
I do think the constant barrage of violent media we have nowadays does in some ways desensitize us to violent acts. But being desensitized means that one doesn't feel the horror as much as they would otherwise. Being desensitized doesn't tend to make someone psychopaths....although it can make them lose their better judgement on some things and try things. But more often than not, common sense prevails. @GamingSinceForever Yes. Things need to change. But what needs to change isn't the removal of violent media.
@thorstein Canada doesn't have anywhere near as many guns per capita as the US. It's on the same level as France or Germany, not the US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
GamingSinceForever I had an arsenal of weapons by the time I was 10 , I watched every war and ninja movie ever made , gangs were everywhere killing each other (Los Angeles) violence hasn’t changed . We are separated , taught to dislike each other early on . Neighbors don’t say hi as much as they used to, I knew everyone on my block and a few blocks over , now I know like 3 neighbors total . You never heard Libtards and Repugnicans, we have categorized ourselves so much instead of everyone just being Americans and hate those people because we can’t agree to be different . We used to respect others who we disagreed with now it’s like they aren’t even human . This hatred mixed with mental health issues who have access to guns is a bad combo. Most keep there hatred to words but the few who don’t cause a lot of damage
The country's political climate is just completely off the rails. Both sides hate everything about the other side, there is almost zero attempt to compromise on anything at this point. Trump could do something that Democrats planned to do if they had been in power and they would hate it and vote against it. Dems are so focused on Illegal immigrants it's complete insanity. California has become a cesspool of drugs and crime but they are just doubling down and they want more of that. I'm afraid this is going to get far worse before it gets better. I'm not sure it ever will get better. I'm glad I don't have kids.
While I agree that this is pure idiocy, they did remove all cigarette advertising from most everywhere and people in movies or on TV can't be seen with a cigarette because it makes it socially acceptable and will cause young people to smoke.
I don't think they will be happy until it's full Fahrenheit 451 around here.
Props for that reference. Yes, let's burn the books next, and see if gun violence stops.
They can be addictive, especially if you've been playing them for most of your life. It's not so easy. Like telling an alcoholic to put down the bottle. Easier said than done.
Sure if you have an addictive personality. I can play a game every day for weeks and then just stop cold turkey.
I've been playing violent videogames for over 30 years and I've hardly killed anyone on real life
only issue i have with that statement is the misspelling of in with on.
Yes, it is extremely hard to kill a real person with a game controller. 😎
Movies are the worst. Horror especially. It's ok to let kids watch people being tortured and mutilated. Maybe we could look at that first.
Can you edit that so I can understand what you are trying to say? The only thing I got was that you think that I'm everything wrong with society. How? By analyzing the BS fed to us by corporate media and rejecting it as another means to divide the people? By knowing based on my studies, scientific peer reviewed data, and common sense that media does not make violent people. Canada doesn't censor music. Yet, their society is far less violent than American society. That said, American society isn't actually all that violent. I refer you to Steven Pinker's Better Angels of Ourselves or Barry Glassner's Culture of Fear. Heck, even check out FBI.gov to see that the USA has become so incredibly less violent in the last 20 years that we have hit historic lows on: murder, rape, robbery, assault, grand theft, abortions, teenage abortions, teenage pregnancy... the list goes on and on. And censorship has not one reason for existing in a society, let alone a society that has freedom of speech. Censorship is pure evil. And don't go slippery sloping down your well to hide behind children again. Maybe educate yourself.
So your telling me you would let your 4 year old watch porn? Because that's what I'm getting here. That should be ok in your world. I agree with you for the most part Canada isn't bad for violence...but it's getting bad...fast. like the south. I should know I'm here. Violence in America might be at it's worst right now how do we really know? I'm not from Atlanta or Dallas. Stop telling me to stop hiding behind children. Their defenseless. I don't have kids. Censorship that is in place is adequate. So yeah the fatal violence is higher because it's not normal to see a gun in a Canadian home. I mean I guess it's protection from an invasion? Maybe the American government knows something we don't? The amount of deaths a day in America is a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of the world I believe...that's why they won't do a thing about guns but blame videogames. We're oversensitized because they plaster it all over the TV when something does happen.
That's a Red Herring. Stop with the logical fallacies. As for the facts, I provided you with three separate sources. It's up to you to educate yourself about it. It is now your choice to either learn that the USA is far safer than it has been in the past 40 years or you can choose to ignore those things. "How do we know?" Because crime is a matter of public record. We can know things and look at them and compare them to the 60s 70s 80s 90s etc. As for censorship, it is very simple: As violence in media has increased, become more prolific and lifelike, violence in society has decreased. Here is a bonus source: https://www.nytimes.com/201...
Jack Thompson would love these kids! He was 20 years too early.
Its a shame that middle school kids, who grow up with games, buy into this crap. It's obvious they aren't researching the data, and as such, they're actually coming across as worse because it shows they can't even think critically about the subject. While I know that school will always have a small group of people who will go after any cause or do any kind of protest in an attempt to appear progressive, this kind of thing just comes across as ineffectual, and ultimately, does nothing to solve the issue. I'd imagine most of the kids in the school probably laughed this kind of protest off, because I'm sure a lot of them have played a violent game or two, and I'd imagine that most, if not all of them, wouldn't resort to some terrible homicidal rampage. Quote from one of the kids "“I think it’s important because if you play violent video games, you’re gonna have a really bad mindset, and you won’t be able to focus on your schoolwork" Is that so? What evidence is there to suggest that? Is this based on anecdotal or empirical evidence, or is just just assumption. Since it's most likely the very latter, where did you hear that you'd have a really bad mindset if you play violent games. Where, in your statement, did you lose focus on becoming informed? For one that seems so keen on becoming knowledgeable by focusing on school work, it seems rather ironic they wouldn't take a few moments to do a bit of research. Millions upon millions of people play violent video games daily. They don't have a bad mindset. Whether or not one can focus on their school work has nothing to do with one's psychological tendencies towards violence.....and realistically, any game, violent or otherwise, can cause one to lose focus on their school work. While it's nice the kids want to do something productive, i'd suggest that they focus their ideas on something that will actually be effective, and not add to the problems by distracting from the issue. While I try not to be overly hard on kids in these kinds of cases, these kids are the same idiots that we will have to argue with in the future when no one actually calls them out on their misconceptions. I believe more now than ever, a kid should learn to think critically. Maybe in 20 years or so, we can move past this knee jerk, misinformed activism that is so rampant with the advent of social media.
Well now that that's done let's go skip the rest of class and smoke some meth
did anyone realized that any violent video games in the hand of those childrens shouldn't be in their possession in the first place? Parents are the one who allowed those games to their kids. Kids are king and can make parents do whatever they want. It's a parent duty to restrict those violent video game. They could also enforce an ID check when buying a video game for games 16 years old and over.
In the words of John Lennon: "in order to burn them they have to buy them."
These students have low IQ than Patrick star
Happens when they find bad ways to protests good causes. "Let's all walk out of school to protest mass shootings and form a crowd outside of the school in public where it would be 100X easier to gun us down"
Florida is a well known State in United States for having low education and high crime, weird people.
I'm from Florida and I'm definitely going to have to agree with you on that but I would argue that's most of the United States....
I'd say the most across the USA instead of just pointing at one State.
I would like to be able to follow them after a while, to see if those "students" are found playing violent games, it would be so funny.
yeah i wonder if any super mario games were thrown out as well, he stomps on turtles, throws fireballs at turtles plus i don't even think hes certified to do the pipe cleaning he does in the games
I think they mean well. But in the end, they're just being influenced by a greater power. Nothing in the given quote, or stated actions, seems to point at them coming to this conclusion through thought or research. It's more excusable in children than it is in adults, but adults do the same thing nowadays. I'd challenge any of these kids to actually research the issue. Not just violent games, but the bigger topic in questions. Then form a conclusion which can maybe let them find a more productive way to address the issue at hand. If they want to raise awareness, that's great, but they should learn early that if you're going to do so, do it right. Otherwise, they won't be taken seriously, and they'll just become another notch on the social media idiots list, who only do things to make themselves feel good, rather than doing something to influence productive change. It's nice to give a statement that makes people have feels. But productive change won't come from feels when placed up against hard evidence....or in some cases the lack thereof. People don't need more feels, they need facts. It's emotional to see a child fight for a cause, it's shameful when that cause isn't fought with knowledge. The given quote only reaffirms people who already believe what these kids believe. It does nothing to change the mind of those who feel otherwise. To effect change, you have to make those people who disagree with you see it from your point of view....and you do that through facts.
I mean I commend them for supporting their rights to protest but this just sounds like a dumb NRA PR stunt to try to make it seem as if videogames are the main culprit of this.
'are being encouraged' Classic. 'if you play violent video games, you’re gonna have a really bad mindset, and you won’t be able to focus on your schoolwork," one student said. "
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Why stop at videogames? If you’re against violence that much you might as well throw out every form of media that depicts violence, whether fictional or real. Hell don’t even teach anything that has anything violent associated with it in school. Doing this half measure and play pointless veto on videogames is in extremely bad taste.
Exactly If this is the case then they shouldn't teach about ANY war in American history they should be burning there history books and videos also because that's REAL life documentation of gun violence.
omfg. If these students could read, Huck Finn and Shakespeare would be flying out the window right next to their daddy’s Contra.
To be fair, the school administration bans some of those books anyways. Too many naughty words and cultural changes since they were written.
Maybe in Florida, but not in my state.
You can't change history by burning history. Students need to stop being pandered to. They are not learning anything by everyone's obsession of censorship these days. Soon they will be protesting for Aushwitz to be pulled down, flags that's countries colonized in the past to be burned and anything that doesn't paint their imaginary, Demolition Man future brightly in their rose tinted glasses to be destroyed, exiled, abolished or written out of history... So then, how do we teach future generations about the wrongs of the past? Kids creating controversy for attention and control... They really shouldn't have that much power.
Yea just lock yourselves in your houses and dont watch any tv, movies, limit your internet and listen only to Disney radio. But dont do anything about mental health or ease of gun access.
I imagine the bullying they'll face from taking this stand will probably have more influence over their mindset than any given video game would. I can't even begin to imagine how many of their class mates laughed at them or heckled them for even suggesting such a thing. While I think kids can do a lot of stupid things, they are usually decently up to date with current trends from social media, and and there are probably a lot of them on this very site who keep up with the current topics of discussion, and likely discuss similar things during recess.
Meanwhile BR games are selling like hotcakes and CoD BO4 was just announced which will also sell like hotcakes... Making all their whining simply that... Whining
Ban everything while you're at it. Idiots...
Throw out violent films and ban violent TV as well. Burn all the violent books, and ban combat sports... But keep all the guns. Actually, arm everybody. More guns = less gun crime. Sentry guns in classrooms imo, but ban the history lessons referencing war.
you are thiking soo badly right now. forget the sentry guns in the classroom. issue them to the students instead, make them shoulder mounted like the predator. more sentry guns means less violence.
Fascism is creeping into high schools now? How dare they convince high school students that they can't get into a good college/university if they enjoy certain things? They're making them pledge never to play them too. I'm all for adults joining cults for stupid reasons because they joined them of their own volition, but leave minors out of it. Besides, people who blame violent media for society's problems clearly don't have a good grasp of the issues at hand, and are never going to solve them as they're never focused on the real source. Worse yet, it looks like these kids are not going to enjoy their youth any longer as they're so focused on academics. Heck, what sources they use for their studies are probably at the discretion of the cultist twats in charge. I've long since learned that high school grades don't mean a thing. At most you'll get into a good university earlier on, but that comes at the expense of stressing more than you have to for the few years prior. I've also learned that it's stupidly easy to get into a lot of colleges as long as you're a high school grad, and everything you do there will replace your high school marks in no time. Besides, you can study at an institution that's cheaper and more local for a few years, and you'll find it's actually really easy to get into virtually any university you want after that. You can even take a year or so off and work a menial job. The idea that high school kids need to stress about this stuff and "do away with distractions" is just a ploy by the government to try and add to the work force as quickly as possible, and it's an evil ploy at that. Anyways, may the current US government be short-lived, for the sake of our violent media...as well as education, the environment, international relations and probably a long list of things I'd rather stay in the dark about.
Yeah, throw out your games! But keep your AR-15! That will end gun violence. Oh, the humanity.
I can understand trauma of such an incident but they way they are exploiting these kids is disgusting. The media, the politicians, it’s sick. You want to protect kids? Protect their minds from these shameless, trashy parasites.
No different than casinos and loot boxes, someone's always getting taken advantage of, but the very foundation of these issues are the sheep that put themselves at risk.
No different than casinos or loot boxes? Are you serious? They are exploiting kids that got shot at for whatever selfish, sick political agenda they have. They aren’t trying to squeeze an extra 20 dollars out of them. It’s a lot different. Yes they are sheep, they are 16 years old. I’m not saying listen to them like they know what they’re talking about, I’m saying stop using their trauma as a shield to push their own twisted views. It’s sick.
I wasn't arguing, attacking you, or defending the media. I'm simply stating people need to quit being damn sheep that spew their bs for other sheep to see. It's how so many things wrong with our world have become accepted by more, but not most. Our sheep are hosts to these parasites
I understand I’m not attacking you either, I just don’t understand the comparison. I don’t blame the kids for being indoctrinated by sick people.
How about physically protecting them too? Instead of coming up with a plan for school defense, they're taking potshots at entertainment media. A pen full of sheep needs sheepdogs. Otherwise wolves will slaughter them. And the wolves have proliferated. This is the problem that can be addressed immediately. Taking AR-15s out of children's hands and crucifying whoever made that possible will take longer.
Of course but this is much worse than you describe. They aren’t taking potshots at the media, they know that doesn’t work. They are using these kids to take potshots at media, they are being exploited as a mouthpiece to carry other people’s water. They didn’t come up with this babble. It’s not up to these kids to come up with solutions, they don’t know how the world works. I saw one kid speak that said he was going to drop out and be an activist full time because it’s all he cares about. The sad part is he would make a lucrative salary doing this. This is our future, a bunch of drop outs and professional victims. Banning things, not creating things. It’s so sad to see this play out and watch kids ruin themselves at the guidance of our supposed leaders. Whether it’s academia, political or the press. Getting rid of a certain firearm isn’t a solution either. If you kill 17 people in 5 minutes or 20 minutes, what’s he difference? Its not graded on speed.
Omg can we please dump these sheep into an active volcano?
Just another day in Florida, nothing to see here folks. Nothing any different than christians burning science books.
Unfortunately "The Bible" in certain states in the USA is considered a science book. Only 38% of people in the USA believe in creationism but then again 38% is still pretty high considering we are living in 2018. http://news.gallup.com/poll...
where will they be tossing these games at? Im asking for a friend
My thoughts exactly. I'm offering a free 'trash' removal service. Just need a pick up spot.
Maybe it's a ploy to collect games, then sell them to GameStop so they can buy the next COD.
Lol that's dumb.
I played violent video game all through high school, and look at me, I'm kickass
dumbest thing i've read for a while.