David Jaffe's Studio Shuts Down

David Jaffe on Twitter: “Any So Cal gamers interested in owning some gaming history? Sadly we are shutting down our Bartlet Jones offices and there's some great props that we're trying to unload to folks who are into such things. Ex: Sweet Tooth's machete we used in TM2012 movies; Sweet Chick's mask,etc.”

[JaguarEvolved]

That sucks. Wish Sony funded the studio to have them make another twisted metal title for ps4

[Majin-vegeta]

Sony owns the TM IP...

[Michiel1989]

yesa, that means they could have done what JaguarEvolved said.

OT: David Jaffe had his time imo. He made some great games but his last games havent been on par with those. Wish him the best of luck and I hope he will make great games once upon a time again.

[NotanotherReboot]

And Sony owns Ratchet and Clank yet Insomniac are still able to develop it.........

[morganfell]

Jaffe may not have wanted to make another TM. Sony may have offered and he may have said no. We just do not have the facts.

[NewMonday]

sadly David Jaffe ideas are archaic, he did not evolve with the times, too stubborn to learn from advancement in game design.

Twisted Metal is a great concept that needs new ideas.

[spambot0815]

regular twisted metal has no chance at this point but i can see a vr version to become successful.

[combatcash]

I agree. Honestly don't think TM would have sold well.

[subtenko]

actually....you have a point if they wanted to combine motor storm with twisted metal...I really just want another motorstorm but I figure twisted metal could kinda go that direction and add VR at least..im just saying u had a good idea with twisted metal and vr

[KickSpinFilter]

yuck can't stand TM

[PhoenixUp]

Drawn to Death just wasn’t that great of a game to keep the studio afloat

But dang David Jaffe. First you leave Sony to create Eat, Play, Sleep. Then you leave that start up company which later shut down. Next you make the The Bartlet Jones Supernatural Detective Agency which itself also got shut down.

This man can’t seem to catch a break.

[Kribwalker]

he could never really replicate the success he had with twisted metal. i remember playing so much twisted metal 2 with my friends, switch between that and 4 player goldeneye on the N64 back then

[SCW1982]

Heard of a game call God of War?

[Kribwalker]

i totally had a brain fart and forgot he was behind god of war as well. i enjoyed the first two god of war games as well. He is still going on 13 years since he has created a successful new IP,

[Segata]

SCW1982

God of War was everyone else's doing around him. Pretty much everything Jaffe wanted isn't in the game. His ideas were not that good and he really had little to do with what made GoW so popular.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@seg- ? what are you talking about? You do understand that David Jaffe is the creator of God of War right? He is the director, he literally is the person that came up with the concept of God of War.....

So Steven Spielberg may have directed some of the best Star Wars movies but George Lucas is the creator of it's universe. I'm actually surprised honestly that you didn't know this, I would say that is one of the biggest things he's contributed to gaming.

So I have to wonder if you didn't know he created God of War what else don't you know? It seems like there is a series of things you don't really know or you're not sure of and you make the statements and a very easy Google can correct you... I mean this all could have been avoided by very quick search.

[jjb1981]

Gaming nostalgia, Thumper and axel were my favs.

[Omac_brother]

FYI Bartlet Jones was an actual Supernatural Detective Agency before Jaffe joined. They just diversified into games when he joined.

No. I'm not kidding.

[April_Marie]

This is untrue. It was not a paranormal investigation service before he "joined." David created the studio with that title.

Source: I used to work there.

[Omac_brother]

@April_Marie. I stand corrected. I got my information from David Jaffe himself but it appears he was probably messing with me. Interview in which he told me that is here: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[April_Marie]

Thanks for the source Omac! Bartlet Jones is quite the enigmatic figure, right? ;)

[Omac_brother]

@April_Marie You have no idea how dumb I feel right now.

[InMyOpinion]

David Jaffe is a mess.

[madforaday]

First of all don't make a PvP only game with pay to win mechanics. I was excited for the game until I saw how they were doing it, you don't start with all the characters, you need to literally level up or pay for them. Imagine if Overwatch was like that? He also half assed the PS3 version of Twisted Metal and also made most car unlockable for the online portion of the game. I do like him in general and loved his games before, it just seems he is out of touch now.

[pody]

Maybe David Jaffe is the problem.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Absolutely agreed

I wanted to like that game but I just couldn't get into it sometimes bad games happen.

[AspiringProGenji]

What kind of name for a studio is that?

Also he should just go back to Santa Monica Studios

[The_Sage]

Not sure they'd hire him back. A genius as he was to put out God of War, he always came off as a douche in interviews...to me anyway.

[madforaday]

He just says what is on his mind, just like when you talk to your friends, David does the same with the media which not many people do with the media so it comes off like he is a douche. I would come off as something that I am not if I talk to the media on how I talk to my close friends. I personally like that because he doesn't hold back. He does have some opinions that I don't agree with but that has nothing to do with his personality. Personally, he just seems out of touch when it comes to the game market nowadays.

[dcbronco]

That's probably at the heart of the problem. Douchery and exclusivity can kill a stupid. That combination can only work on smaller games.

[opinionated]

He is an asshole to the press. That’s why we love him. Does it really bother you that he told kotaku to eat turds? I think he deserves a medal.

[Segata]

Don't give him credit for GoW. His ideas were shot down and the GoW you got wasn't really his ideas because his were awful and shot down.

[Segata]

They don't want him back. Read this and then read a post by Ken. Former co-workers https://pietriots.com/2012/... Both pretty much saying the guy is a prick and a hack and doesn't deserve credit for why GoW is so well liked.

[_-EDMIX-_]

??? I mean that's nice but I believe any co-worker could say something about anyone.

So you're saying he doesn't deserve credit for creating a concept and directing a game that revolutionized to hack and slash genre?

Please buddy get out of here that's probably one of the dumbest things I've ever read on here you're literally trying to say the person who created the series does not deserve credit for creating the series because you read some stupid Post online with no real information regarding what they're talking about.

Oh believe me I can make a fake blog post to about any director in gaming trying to discredit them....

Doesn't make it true it's simply makes you very gullible.

[frostypants]

I thought it was an awesome name.

[Relientk77]

Hopefully Sony puts him back on Twisted Metal.

[AnubisG]

Honestly, this guy has not created anything good since the first God of War. I even question that GoW and TM was his idea and not his teams.

[opinionated]

Apparently everything was Jaffes idea lol. If you watch the barlog interviews he talks about how jaffe was anal about his “rules that can’t be broken” when it comes to story and characters.

[Segata]

Yup, it was the teams not him.

[_-EDMIX-_]

I agree that he hasn't created anything substantial after the first God of War but please do not question him creating the concept for God of War because there's multiple development videos of multiple of the directors talking about David being very passionate about creating God of War.

Trust me it is not something that was just created by a bunch of other people in David came in the way trying to pretend it was his, literally he came up with the entire concept of God of War....

[AnubisG]

So all that was in him is Twisted Metal and God of War......than nothing. Interesting.🤔

[_-EDMIX-_]

Lol I mean let's be honest that's still pretty significant.

I think any game director would be honored to create one iconic game let alone 2.

[1nsomniac]

Unfortunately another developer who didn’t progress with technology & was unable to keep up. RIP alongside 3DRealms etc..

[TheOttomatic91]

Not surprising after how awful Drawn to Death was

[QUIMICOMORTAL]

I never got interested in any oh his games (save for GoW) but I do feel bad for him and his team.

[opinionated]

That sucks I like jaffe.

[Strafe]

David Jaffe has hardly made anything noteworthy for years. This is no surprise.

[LgbtWarrior]

He’s the Katherine Heigl of game developers.

[WorldGamer]

At the very least we can say he was trying some new things, even if it didn't hit the mark of mass market success at all times. Hopefully, he'll have the opportunity to find his voice again, fond memories of Twisted Metal for sure.

[Einhander1971]

God of war was his finest hour, simple as that really.

[Segata]

Too bad it wasn't his God of War that hit shelves. His God of War would have been a mess if everyone else didn't step in and change it.

Former staff post "I worked with Dave Jaffe on Twisted Metal PS3 for 4 years of my life that I will never get back, and listen, he IS a completely worthless hack! He DID work on God of War, but that Sony team refused to work with him again and therefore he was removed from the franchise. He will NEVER work on a GoW game again. His ideas were not the ideas that made GoW good and he was fought by the development team at every turn. To Sony Santamonica’s credit they somehow muted Jaffe enough to make GoW a decent franchise. Likewise on TM PS3 his ideas were always the ideas we wasted tons of precious time on and those ideas NEVER amounted to anything but wasted effort. Meanwhile, yes, nearly half of the developers on TM PS3 lost their jobs 2 weeks before the game hit store shelves – I wasn’t on the chopping block by the way, I left the studio before sh!t hit the fan. Those really talented, hard working, GOOD people lost their jobs so that this dirt-bag could take all the credit and make a ton of money. Dave Jaffe is very popular with soda-slurping fans, and ironically I understand that; he seems real, he seems like a fan himself… the reason is he IS a soda slurping fan who somehow snuck into the back door and installed himself as a respectable game designer. He has no more business designing games than any other basement-dwelling, cheese-fry-eating gamer. What a shameless self-promoting piece of sh!t." From the comment section of another staff member crapping on him in a link I posted earlier

[P_Bomb]

[Quote]basement dwelling cheese fry eating gamer[/Quote]

Basements get a bad rap. I like my basement, lol!

[_-EDMIX-_]

I mean that's nice if you want to believe a bunch of second-hand information....

[oof46]

Jaffe was always a fun interview to watch. Hopefully, he and the rest of the people at the studio find employment soon.

[Segata]

Sony cut ties with Jaffe because he's a hack and a prick.There are interviews like this one https://pietriots.com/2012/... staff that worked under him. This is an excerpt. "after negotiating with Sony, Jaffe scored the license to make a Twisted Metal branded game again! Hooray! And after almost five years of painstaking development and after receiving a day one patch a month after Jaffe criticised games that ship unfinished, Jaffe has celebrated by walking out on the company and shooting the eight guys who stood between him and the door. Presumably, they were the eight who were familiar with PlayStation 3 hardware because Eat Sleep Play announced they’ll be focusing on mobile games from now on." Then there is other stuff how his ideas for God of War were all terrible so the God of War people got was everything but Jaffe ideas. Drawn to Death his project and it shows. The game is trash trying to appeal to someone? Maybe someone who is 12 years old in 1996 in mentality? It sucks for the other who lost their jobs and hope they get something stable but Jaffe, the gaming world would lose nothing if he never developed another game ever again.

[Yohshida]

Always sad seeing Studios close. They had some great Ideas with their last game and probably great ones with their VR title aswell. But MP only is something you dont wanna do as a PS4 exlcusive.

[captainexplosion]

I think Drawn to Death is one of the most underrated games I've ever played.

[zodiac909]

We need a Twisted Metal Black 2

[Twinblade]

Jaffe became a liberal loon.

[Bushwick]

Would love a new tm with a story driven sp. Co op.