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Is the Xbox Having an Identity Crisis?

The Xbox One doesn't have many exclusives because it doesn't have an identity. With no personality, there's no proper way to market it.

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ArchangelMike2577d ago

I thought it was for Kinect, ESPN, Hulu and Netlfix??? Huh?!? I must have been wrong then.

skydragoonityx2577d ago

Phil Spencer was supposed to be the savior.. Now we know better. All talk no action

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AngelicIceDiamond2577d ago

@Nemesis These people don't understand don't even waste brain power on them. They think MS can pump out 5 new ips in a month, for whatever out of this world reason. I've already explained the 1st party situation twice no need to explain a third time, its not rocket science but to to the mass majority I guess it is.

tyasia02577d ago

"Things just don't happen over night"

Well how about 3 years? Is that enough time?

Nu2577d ago

I also believed Obama was the antichrist /s

TheCommentator2577d ago (Edited 2577d ago )

How about MS has had unannounced games in development since before last E3, tyasia? That's time enough to have games ready for this holiday. You don't care though, any more than you care that Phil said that the attention given to making better services and hardware is now being focused on making games. If the statement is true, MS is not going to just show more games at E3, but will continue to bolster 1st party games and add devs to their 1st party teams going forwards as well.

BTW, MS has plenty of identity if they simply revisit their old IP's.

tyasia02577d ago

@TheCommentator

If they have all these unannounced games why are they only talking about the same 4 games and pretty obviously delaying them for the Scorpio launch later this year? If they have so many unannounced games wouldn't it be better to have some games spread out instead of getting spanked monthly by Sony and eating tons of bad press?

What your saying is what you want to believe and based on no factual evidence.

ABizzel12577d ago

Yes and No. I don't think it's just an identity crisis, I also think it's more of a lack of necessity in the eyes of most gamers.

The honest truth is if you have a PS4 and/or a gaming PC, there's little reason to own a XBO. PS4 shares about 95% of the same gaming library, so from there it just boils down to preference and exclusives. Globally the PS4 is the more preferred consoles, and it's pushing out wave after wave of quality and diverse exclusives, while Xbox releases one decent exclusive maybe every few of months, and stuffs their games in the holiday season where they can be overlooked from the crowded season and highest selling AAA games.

The PC at this point shares 99% of the XBO library, while also having it's own collection of exclusives and VR.

The Xbox brand needs to redefine itself once again starting next generation, because it's too little too late this gen. PlayStation redefined itself as a gaming console first and foremost that offers the best games for gamers, at a great price and it worked for them. The message was simple, direct, and easy to understand from day 1, and MS and Nintendo's fumbles did nothing but highlight that message even further.

Xbox currently doesn't have that same direct messaging. Their current message is play our games Xbox or PC (so the hardware becomes less necessary), our teams mainly focus on the same franchises you've known for 1 - 2 generations not aka 10+ years of the same core franchises and we don't have the dev support to make a big change to that just yet, and we don't have the 3rd party support we once had last generation to get timed exclusive games and content like we did. But this holiday we'll have a console that's more powerful than the competition, and hopefully that will get you to buy the console.

That's just terrible messaging, and unfortunately until they fix it with an "identity" for the brand, and the games to back it up, Xbox will always be a distant rival to PlayStation unless Sony fumbles like they did with the PS3.

TheCommentator2577d ago (Edited 2577d ago )

@ Tyasia

No facts, lol. Phil made the statement about having more games this year than last, about putting the same focus into 1st party that they put into OS and HW in the past, about possibly revealing Scorpio early to focus E3 on games....

Those are facts, at least if you can take the blinders off your pony and see the big picture. You'd think N4G was hosting an equestrian event or something with all this ridiculousness...

Captain_Tom2577d ago

Honestly what can he do?

The head of MS wants XBOX dead, and they should have killed the brand years ago.

None of their consoles have ever been "Best Selling", the OG XBOX lost them ~7 Billion, the 360 broke even (Do to the RROD and other issues negating LIVE revenue), and again the XBOX One will probably break even.

Their heart just isn't in it, and so they should get out.

ps360s2576d ago (Edited 2576d ago )

I am not going to blame Phil...he is a true gamer and trying to turn things round but MS higher ups are the ones that is in full control and decides in the end (the people investors don't know much about gaming at MS) unlike Sony (the PlayStation division) and Nintendo

@AngelicIceDiamond...they can pump out 5 exclusives if they want to and if allow to

uth112576d ago

I've seen lots of change under Phil. Major games cancelled, every exclusive pushed to PC. MS used to dominate the gaming press alongside Sony. Now Nintendo does in their place. Maybe not the change we were looking for, but change nontheless

AmUnRa2576d ago

Yes i do not understand why xbox fanboys praising Spencer to heaven and see him as the man that will turn things around.

He is just a PR talking head, and he must say and do what Microsoft tell him to say and to do. He is not the one to make decisions, that is Microsoft, the board of directors and the stockholders, but fore shure it isnt Phil Spencer.

trooper_2576d ago

Lol @ nemesis.

Microsoft had plenty of time to show what they were capable of.

All talk, no show.

UltraNova2576d ago (Edited 2576d ago )

Lets face the facts here. Phil failed to save the xb1. The xb1 is a write off in MS's and non-MS fans. They must move on (diehards will follow). The Scorpio needs to focus and deliver on games, period. They must give the new console a laser cut identity and exclusive reasons to own one, not just a beefed up xb1 or else its going to be 2013-2017 days all over again. The time for self-inflicted illusions of grandeur are over, its time they delivered a gamer-centric console or get out all together.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2575d ago (Edited 2575d ago )

@nemesis-enforcer
*Things just dont happen over night and the changes he has made on his watch have been for the better.*

Well they came up with an Elite Controller, custom colors for controllers, Xbox Game Pass, and Xbox Scorpio. Microsoft did all that and they still haven't announced the one thing that people have been asking for:

SOME NEW GAMES THAT DON'T INVOLVE HALO, FORZA, OR GEARS

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Nu2577d ago

Dude I thought that chick was Xbox /s

Kallisti2577d ago (Edited 2577d ago )

If she was ex box, she'd be a man now ;)

@Nu Learn to read, Khalessi is a totally different word

Nu2577d ago (Edited 2577d ago )

@Kallisti go back to game of thrones your clearly drunk /s
lol I know

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Dragonscale2576d ago

@angel, all that money and ms struggle to release 5 games in a year let alone month.

chrisx2577d ago (Edited 2577d ago )

Yea the xbone has a real identity crisis thanks to ms who don't understand the basic concept of a video game console. Gamers just want to play great games, anything else should be an afterthought

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darthv722577d ago

They definitely changed their tune from last gen. I had a feeling things were going to be different and they sure are. MS isnt opening up the checkbook like last gen and they are getting crap for it. then again they got crap for opening up the checkbook to begin with.

Despite this "identity crisis" it still manages to sell better than the 360 did with RRoD. Maybe it's selling better because people have figured it makes a better 360 than their 360 AND it plays xb1 games as well?

tyasia02577d ago (Edited 2577d ago )

@darthv72

"Despite this "identity crisis" it still manages to sell better than the 360 did with RRoD."

This isn't really true anymore.

Gap change over last 12 months: 2,871,767 – X360

http://n4g.com/news/2030078...

By the time they post February's results 360 will have retaken the lead. And even if it doesn't in February by March it will have for sure.

Liqu1d2576d ago (Edited 2576d ago )

They got crap for their reasons for opening the checkbook last gen, no one would have a problem if they used their money to expand their 1st party studios rather than 3rd party exclusives and timed exclusives.

meka26112576d ago

Funny thing is, exclusives really don't sell systems. If you look at the top selling games for both ps4 and xbox one, they are multiplatform. And most people keep mentioning exclusives that are from japan, which is cool, but most japanese games just don't have the same production as western. Yes there are exceptions, but look at tales of besiria, great game, but looks like a damn ps2 game. I just don't get how much the sony fans hate on xbox; does it make you feel better about your purchase. You know who you don't see spouting that BS, people that can afford both.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2575d ago (Edited 2575d ago )

@meka2611
Let me explain to you why that assertion is ridiculous. Just use the miraculous transformation of certain fans on this site as an example, Xbox fanboys and PC Elitists in particular.

All of a sudden, some of them have miraculously made the transformation from Fanboy to neutral gamer

The most notable I can think of Septic and Gangsta Red. Both are well know for their vehement Xbox loyalty.
Why do you think they decided to buy a PS4? For the Controller?
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I have been a long time fan of Playstation and I make no apologies for it and I'm certainly not going to pretend like I have any interest in Xbox because I HAVE NO INTEREST IN THEIR EXCLUSIVES, console or otherwise.

2pacalypsenow2573d ago

I bought a 360 over a Ps3 at launch because of Gears Of War

meka26112573d ago

Lol at I give hugs. Man I have been neutral the whole time I've been here. I have both systems and am getting either a wii u or switch soon. I don't need to pick a console, but do me a favor look up best selling games for ps4 and xbox one. You'll see that exclusives are like fourth or fifth on the list of most sold.

yarbie10002577d ago

Enter the opposing console fans who forgot that their system was baren with games for years who now pretend it wasn't. Who was so obsessed with power, but now claim it doesn't mean that much. Talk about identity crisis

Razzer2577d ago (Edited 2577d ago )

And what of the now "barren" Xbox One and all the fans who are obsessed with Scorpio' s power, but previously said there was neglible difference between X1 and PS4.

I mean if you are going to generalize then you might as well generalize all the way around.

Outside_ofthe_Box2577d ago

Generalizing all the way around is absolutely forbidden.

You may only generalize one side. This is rule This is true

SpaceRanger2577d ago

What's up with you beating up on Wii U fans? Look if you don't want to deal with a barren year of waiting 9-10 months for a new exclusive AAA, just get a PS4.

Obsessed with power? All this gen Yarbie you've been saying that power doesn't matter. You're a joke if it actually matters to you now. It's always mattered. The BEAST will truly come with the PS5.

AngelicIceDiamond2577d ago

Hyping and dreaming up a none existent that's still a few years out. A little strange but have fun.

tyasia02577d ago (Edited 2577d ago )

@AngelicIceDiamond

"Hyping and dreaming up a none existent that's still a few years out. A little strange but have fun."

Isn't that a little like Microsoft announcing a console that was almost two years away....

SpaceRanger2577d ago

@AngelicIceDiamond

"Hyping and dreaming up a none existent that's still a few years out. A little strange but have fun."

LMAO, So now you're realizing how ridiculous and idiotic you fanboys have sounded since last June. And that's cause you're still waiting another 8 months for Scorpio and actual games. Good on you 👍🏼

AngelicIceDiamond2577d ago

I don't remember hyping up anything personally last summer so, easy with the word fanboy when directing towards me.

@Ty You mean like the leaks and rumors of both mid gen machines were happening at the same time? One just so happened to release before the other machine and one machine is releasing this year? Considering the Scorpion actually got announced it makes better sense (Common sense) to hype up something that's been announced with a release window. VS something that hasn't been announced, talked about, and won't talked about or announced in a while.

I broke it down so hopefully it makes sense. Probably not though....

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tyasia02577d ago (Edited 2577d ago )

Well even if that was true which it isn't we're in the present now and PS4 has had tons of highly rated games each month while Xbone has had one game since last year and it's not even very highly rated.

So uh... yea, whats your point?

AngelicIceDiamond2577d ago

"Xbone has had one game since last year and it's not even very highly rated"

Are you saying they released one game last year? Because that's definitely not right.

tyasia02577d ago (Edited 2577d ago )

"Are you saying they released one game last year? Because that's definitely not right."

No that wasn't what I said.

I said "Xbone has had one game SINCE last year and it's not even very highly rated", that game is Halo Wars 2.

The last exclusive they had was Gears of War 4 in October 2016 it's almost April 2017, so it's been almost 7 months and only one retail exclusive. And whats more they don't have a single upcoming retail exclusive that even has a release date.

AngelicIceDiamond2577d ago

So wait..Recore? Forza Dead Rising (Timed)? Those games don't count? I'm lost now I don't know what half you ppl on this site talk about anymore you all give me head aches.

tyasia02576d ago

Uh, Recore and Forza came out in September that's before October according to my calendar.

And yes Dead Rising is a timed exclusive which is already on Steam. But if you want to count it that's still 5 months and only one retail release.

And if I was so poor at reading and understanding calendars this site would probably give me headaches too.

AngelicIceDiamond2576d ago

MS has been releasing games since September Recore, Forza, Gears in Oct, Deadrising in Dec Halo Wars 2 in February there was nothing in January clearly,(whatever). You're just spinning and making excuses trying to say they have 1 game or whatever is you're trying to do. That's you giving me a headache you blatantly left out the other games.

Done with you ppl.

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trooper_2576d ago

PS4 barren with games? Is that why it's selling?

Oh...wait, didn't games such as Nioh, Yakuza0, Horizon Zero Dawn and now Persona 5 came out?

Oh, those aren't games?/s

Eonjay2576d ago

Microsoft is smart... they know that by not releasing anything for the Xbox One, it will make the eventually Scorpio reveal look amazing when they finally announce something. They know how to use starvation tactics on their base and keeping them hungry will increase sales of Scorpio. Zelda is better than Microsoft's entire lineup combined this year and the Switch just came out.

Ashlen2576d ago (Edited 2576d ago )

How is that smart?

All they are doing is helping to sell PS4's as it's the only console with new games. And for PS4 owners their "starvation" tactic has zero effect. On top of that they look bad like they are not supporting their console which degrades consumer trust.

Plus the Slim will still be cheaper when all these games finally come out. So they are putting the consumer base they have in a situation where it's $500 console with 1 game or Slim (keep the console they already have) and buy 5 or 6 games for the same price.

I really don't see any way in which it's advantageous to pursue a strategy like that.

QUIMICOMORTAL2576d ago

LOL ps4 had many 90+ scoring games years before x1...key word being gameS in plural! does the xbrick have a second 90+ game yet? or will yu have to wait another 3 years?

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XiNatsuDragnel2577d ago

I agree there's a identity issue

PlayStation_52576d ago

It's pretty sad when even the Wii U completely destroyed the Xbox One in Exclusives / Console Exclusives...

PlayStation 4 Exclusives / Console Exclusives = 490 + 46 PSVR Exclusives = 536
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

Wii U Exclusives / Console Exclusives = 425
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

Xbox One Exclusives / Console Exclusives = 154
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

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LG_Fox_Brazil15h ago

Used to love this one, but X-Men Legends 1 and 2 will always be my favorites, especially Rise of Apocalypse. Would pay some good money to play it today with online multiplayer, back then I had no way to get a modem

RavenWolfx7h ago

Yeah, I loved the Legends games so much.

ZeekQuattro14h ago

I remember buying them dirt cheap on the PS4 and then a few days later I read they were delisted. I was wondering why the bundle was price so low and got my answer when that happened.

Knightofelemia13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Sad to say this is one game franchise next to the Xmen that needs a sequel. I use to play the hell out of Xmen Legends and Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Was great when my cousin had the OG Xbox play with four other people and then playing online. Great games glad to see it reappear even though I own the discs love the mechanics of this game.

Terry_B12h ago

It got a sequel..but for dumbass #reasons as a switch exclusive.

shinoff218312h ago

It looked so horrible to. They should've kept it similar to the first two.

Asplundh12h ago

Because Nintendo funded it, they did the same for Bayonetta.

Knightofelemia12h ago

I totally forgot about the Switch sequel.

jukins12h ago

Misleading. This page is whats available for people who owned the game prior to delisting.

Abnor_Mal11h ago

The first game was the best imo.

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