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Top 5 Things Wrong With The PS4 Pro

Here's a list of the top five things wrong with the PlayStation 4 Pro, problems that might put you off from buying one.

Do you agree with them?

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S2Killinit2797d ago

I think Sony has essentially killed scorpio by releasing the PS4 Pro. Think about it, the PS4 Pro has the benefit of being novel for 2 reasons:
1) it has a bigger power gap against existing consoles at time of its release (2-3 times more powerful than the others) AND
2) it has the novelty of introducing VR to console gamers.

When scorpio releases, it will only be (roughly) 33% more powerful than other existing consoles. (For those that arent good at math the PS4 Pro, by comparison is between 200%-300% more powerful than existing consoles)
Also by that time console gamers will already be fimiliar with VR.

So, yeah i think PS4Pro is going to really staggnate the sales of scorpio.

emawk2797d ago

Great points, but you have to ask yourself what the PS4 Pro's extra power is optimized for...

Red_Renegade2795d ago

if you ask yourself, then you weren't paying attention when Sony explained it

DigitalRaptor2795d ago (Edited 2795d ago )

Let's be honest, Scorpio was never going to be playing it large at any stage.

It still exists in the same marketplace as the PS4 and PS4 Pro, both of which annihilate it in terms of number, diversity and quality of exclusive games as well as releasing them throughout the year rather than in the last 3 months. So it will still fall prey to being vastly outsold by the better console, despite what Microsoft want to poise it as. Releasing it 12 months after the PS4 Pro is suicide, especially considering Xbox's position in the market.

phallusitator2795d ago

I also think that if Sony announces that they are working on a new console just before the Scorpio drops it'll be bad news for Micro. Even if the PS5 doesn't release until Q4 2018.

s45gr322795d ago

No, I don't see it. It doesn't do Native 4K 60 frames per second. That is superficial my biggest worry is no mention of an upgrade program. Basically trade your base PS4 for PS4 Pro. Second, its up to developers not Sony in regards to 1080p 60 frames per second in regards to PS4 games. So not all PS4 games will play at 1080p 60 frames per second. With those two issues lingering why buy a PS4 Pro.

Lack of UHD Blu-ray really hurts
No mod support. Only fanboys will defend the PS4 Pro

jsiddlehfx2795d ago

And you think the scorpio will seeing as high end graphics cards for Gaming PCs can't even rock 4k 60fps reliably? lol

S2Killinit2795d ago (Edited 2795d ago )

@s45gr32
Yeah sure buddy.

OB1Biker2795d ago (Edited 2795d ago )

'Only fanboys will defend the PS4 Pro'

That line in conclusion says it all about your own fanatic bias.

'Why buy a PS4 Pro?'
Weird other people can think different than you isn t it?

TehInformer2795d ago (Edited 2795d ago )

Not starting a fanboy war, as I realize everyone has a reason for liking their chosen platform; however, this breakdown is garbage (33% more powerful than 'other existing consoles'). Here are the real facts for anyone who might be interested:
(XBox One 1.3 Tf, PS4 1.84 Tf, PS4 Pro 4.2 Tf, and XBox Scorpio 6 Tf)

PS4 Pro will offer:
70% the performance of XBox Scorpio
228% the performance of PS4
320% the performance of XBox One

XBox Scorpio will offer:
143% the performance of PS4 Pro
326% the performance of PS4
458% the performance of XBox One

S2Killinit2795d ago (Edited 2795d ago )

Yes this is correct, I think I messed up in my wording and it wasn't intentional because I said "33% more powerful" (which btw was from top of my head by dividing 6 by 4.2, and as you said the exact amount is 43%). But yes basically the scorpio would have 43% MORE than PS4 Pro's power , while PS4 Pro has 128% MORE than Standard PS4.

Although, my point still stands that PS4 Pro will be a larger power leap over whats available at its launch, than the Scorpio will do over whats available when it launches next year.

PS: I don't argue with facts. When you are right, you are right.

Master of Unlocking2794d ago (Edited 2794d ago )

Except the Xbox Scorpio won't have 143% the performance of the PS4 Pro dude, a 100% increase would mean double the power, and the Scorpio's 6 TFLOPS aren't double the power of the Pro's 4.2 TFLOPS. So 143% increase? Nope.

edit: LOL, I thought you were talking in terms of increase, my bad, I must've misread. You're right then. Chill.

TehInformer2794d ago (Edited 2793d ago )

I didn't say it had a 143% increase, I said it offered 143% the performance in which context the 100% portion represents the same performance and the 43% represents the increase. The math is simple:
6/4.2 = 1.43 times the performance. 1.43 can be converted to a percentage by multiplying by 100.

You may be a "Master of Unlocking" but you're not a "Guru of Math".

edit: The last line sounded more harsh than it was intended. I just couldn't pass on the opportunity to play off the words of the poster's handle.

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DigitalRaptor2795d ago (Edited 2795d ago )

Barely any of these makes sense, and this article exists just for nonsense clicks.

The author's 3rd and 4th points directly and embarrassingly conflict.
3) "The boost in visuals on a regular, non-4K HD TV will likely not be worth the $400 you’ll pay for the system."
4) "is it really that hard to save $100 over a few months and wait for an opportunity to buy the PS4 Pro"
.........WHAT? Author is clueless. Double standards exposed. Is it right, or is it wrong?

On to the rest of the points:

1) This is a blatant lie about a lack of native 4K, when the PS4 Pro has an absolute capability to output the resolution natively. The author doesn't even bother to go into detail about how this is "wrong" anyway, doesn't even bother to go into detail about how the hardware-based checkerboard rendering process compares to native. Then it brings up Scorpio, as though it were more than just a single 6TF number at this point and lofty claims from a corporation that historically hasn't yet lived up to its earlier claims about the XB1, such as cloud computing making it 3-4 times more powerful.

2) This is a 100% non-gaming, non-starter that would only bring up the price of the console, and somehow this is a bad thing.... even though UHD Blu-ray media is not only sparse right now, but ridiculously expensive, and not exactly gaining traction either.

3) This talks about "needing" a 4KTV to fully benefit. How exactly does this detail how PS4 Pro gets it "wrong"? If anything it gets it right in the sense that it provides immediate benefits to those who don't yet have 4KTVs, so you aren't wasting your money when buying it and not seeing the 4K benefit. Idiot author.

4) This talks about just how "pointless" it makes another console seem, but refuses to bring up how pointless it makes the current XB1 or XB1 S considering that it's only $100 more than those consoles too and much more powerful. The author decided to bring up Scorpio in the first point, but doesn't want to bring up the other Xbox consoles in this point. Strange. That extra $100 can make all the difference if you're in the market for something like PSVR, but the author is just very simple.

5) This is a jest at how it looks "ugly" despite really having no substantial reasoning as to why that is. Seems as thought they could only think of 4 things so they just added it, pointlessly.

ecchiless2795d ago

I get it ppl dont need to "like" everything, but the hate for sony and ps4 is just stupid, is amazing how some ppl hate something just cause is doing better that the product that they love.

Ju2795d ago (Edited 2795d ago )

And, BTW, no game on the PS4 renders actually 720p...lowest is 900p.

And, btw, it isn't even $100 difference - which not only applies to the PS4 Slim but also XB. At 1TB we are looking at $50 for either one.

Arbormist2795d ago

I agree with everything but 5. I think the Pro is absolutely gorgeous. I'm going to love seeing it on my custom wall mount like the thing's so epic it literally has the power to shift gravity.

TBH I could mention the 5 things right with the ps4 pro.

1: No competition - for a year or more.
2: It's cheap - 400 dollars for a gaming machine that if build 3 years ago would have cost 900+ dollars before tax is VALUE.
3: It doesn't separate the ps4 community. - Which would have meant low budget shitty start of gen exclusives ALL over again.
4: it offers more power. - Which everyone bitched about late last gen wanting more than 720p 30fps. "That they're now getting."
5: it's offering forward compatibility. - Offering more value than we ever thought we were getting when we bought our older games.

I really feel like every time someone writes a list about the negative aspects of things, they should REALLY attempt to think outside the box and consider the positives as well, even if they don't want to. Being intentionally ignorant helps nobody.

Starman692795d ago

Rise of the tomb raider 1080p avg 50fps, or booseted visuals 30fps. Cant wait!!!

Aenea2795d ago

1. Doesn’t Do Native 4K Gaming
2. Doesn’t Play UHD 4K Blu-Rays
3. You Need a 4K TV to Fully Benefit
4. Makes PS4 Slim Almost Pointless
5. One of the Ugliest Designs Ever

Saved you a click!

Funny stuff right? At 1) they even claim the Scorpio will do native 4k and something about why settle for an imitation!

1. Scorpio will be as much a native 4k machine as the PS4 Pro is, not all games will be native 4k.
2. Yeah we know already after like 50 opinion articles about it
3. You don't say?
4. Ehhh, ok
5. That's subjective

The only real one is of course #2, the UHD drive, the others are either subjective (the looks) or the same as with the Scorpio with which they compare it.

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PlayStation Store Sale "Big Games Big Deals" Now Live, Complete Games List Available

Sony has launched a new PlayStation Store sale this week titled "Big Games, Big Deals" and this discounts over 1,700 items on the storefront.

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Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures

"The sudden closure of several video-game studios at Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox division was the result of a widespread cost-cutting initiative that still isn’t finished.

This week, Xbox began offering voluntary severance agreements to producers, quality assurance testers and other staff at ZeniMax, which it purchased in 2020 for $7.5 billion, according to people familiar with the company’s plans. Others across the Xbox organization have been told that more cuts are on the way.

Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said.

Game Pass has not seen the massive growth that Xbox boss Phil Spencer may have been hoping for."

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just_looken13m ago

Sense it seems very few remember that human's were around before 2020 the next studio to close will be bethesda based no doubt on the history of.

Fallout 76
Elder scrolls online
elder scrolls blades mobile
fallout mobile
The vr versions of old games

Then you got starfield pissing out cash nothing to cover it.

I doubt tod's team or any sub team is making m$ cash they are no doubt on the chopping block for job cuts

If you can remember before 2020 even fallout 76 was made with over 4 studios.

-Foxtrot1h ago

"Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said"

So what you're saying is...you bought all these studios and you guys can't run them.

Jesus.

Inverno1h ago

Spread thin after firing over 2000 employees a few months prior. So basically they created the problem and their solution was to just fire more people. Absolute geniuses over at Xbox, of course can we even believe this to be the reason for the closures?

just_looken10m ago

9 agrees of course pro sony site

Oh look knowledge
https://www.pcgamer.com/aft...

They left them do there "magic" for 3 years lost alot of money redfall is what made them take charge.

This is right now m$ in charge

Profchaos0m ago

Leaders can't run them hire more management create new roles don't shutter entire studios cause you can't figure out how to run them.

Unless the reality is this whole consolidation thing was really an excuse for IP harvesting

Eonjay1h ago

Reports are suggesting that Game Pass will be getting a price hike soon and that Call of Duty may not be added to the day one offering. I honestly have a hard time believing this but it does beg the question why exactly did GP fail? I think the answer is that it just didn't get the growth that it anticipated. Jim was right but I wish he wasn't because at the end of the day, its gamers, devs and other front-line workers who have to absorb the blow for Spencer and team's miscalculations.

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NotoriousWhiz40m ago

And out of the ashes something even better than Xbox will be born.

Eonjay37m ago

Honestly as long as is not a situation where the industry has to contract in order focus wealth on a few people who are already trillionaires..

Scissorman1h ago

For all the armchair executives who were calling for Sony to release its big-budget AAA games on PS+, the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation. Game Pass has killed Xbox. Congrats.

shinoff21831h ago

There's not many of of us clamoring for Sony to do this because most of us understand it would kill Playstation. I'm sure there's a few but I've not seen alot of it myself.

just_looken20m ago

I will give you a like sense this site is pro sony even the mods will delete this comment like my last asap as they defend sony 24/7.

Those with brains knows microsoft a trillion dollar company cares little about devs and is all about making cash so they will lease out ips gamepass is not a loss like amazon/netflix the overall ms make billions a week.

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Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024

Twisted Voxel writes: "We've almost reached the end of the 1st half of 2024, and Xbox has had more studio closures than first party game releases in the year so far."

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KicksnSnares16h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Towerborne, and Call of Duty are still to be released this year. Marcus Fenix collection to be added to the list with the Xbox showcase, hopefully.

anast13h ago

Those are all coming to PS5 too.

Tech58h ago

"Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024"

they kept the IPs though. they'll be making them under the MS brand i'm guessing. like minecraft all those years ago.

solideagle12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

the keyword is so Far...

on topic: Ouch!

Hedstrom10h ago

Kinda missing the forest for all the trees statement!

shinoff218310h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Bet all those don't make it though this year

romulus239h ago(Edited 9h ago)

If we're going to talk in "still to be's" there still could be more studio closures from Microsoft this year as well.

DOMination-6h ago

How much confidence do people have in these games being good though? I hope they will be (especially Avowed) but from what we know of them so far, it's hardly a guarantee, is it?

And even if they do turn out to be good, how much of that will be down to Xbox and its leadership? Most of these games were either sequels to games made before being acquired or started development before being acquired.

And just a note on Hellblade II - it is out in two weeks and unless I'm missing something, I don't see much in the way of previews or advertising from Microsoft. Not ideal for a niche game that looks like it probably cost a lot of money to make. It genuinely feels like another game being sent out to die and then have the studio shut down.

Elda5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

To me...Avowed graphics look cheap, the game looks generic as well as boring.

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anast13h ago

Popcorn is good. Anyone want some?

anast9h ago

I wouldn't mind a caramel and cinnamon mix actually.

dumahim8h ago

That does sound good. I have trouble just finding caramel corn.

anast4h ago

I find it interesting that people have to resort to praising how they were randomly born in a certain location to say they're not weird. But, I'm not sure this kind of stupidity can be generalized over an entire group of people, at least, I'm being optimistic here.

Eonjay12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Sony doesn't have to bother fighting the next Microsoft acquisition. The massive layoff by themselves should be enough to get the next big buy blocked.

Hofstaderman11h ago

Vindicates Jim Ryan. Don't know who didnt see this coming except those frothing pro acquisition fanboys who are not commenting here for some reason....

Tacoboto10h ago

What did happen to Obscure?

Tody_ZA9h ago

Obscure is working on his thesis on how to spin this.

Elda9h ago

Exactly. Where is the mayor & spokesperson of XB?

badz1499h ago

Obsecure where are you? Don't tell us Phil fired you too

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MatrixxGT7h ago

Let’s not pretend Sony is setting the world on fire with its first party either….it’s been crickets from them as well. In fact they even said not to expect any at all this year.
MS is a dumpster fire and Sony isn’t fighting anymore and it shows. I fail to see how this is a good thing.

Skuletor3h ago

Wasn't it no new existing IP entries? That would still leave room for new IPs, maybe we'll see one or more of those this year.

Sonic18817h ago

I was actually thinking about that. You beat me to it

MrDead12h ago

So if MS hadn't spent $80 billion consolidating the industry just think of all the games and jobs that would have saved.

MS is a drain on gaming and have been nothing but a negative.

MrCrimson10h ago

not exactly like the studios were putting out good games anyway. Industry needs to restart from the ground up; if games like battlebit or manor lords can be made by teams with 10 people - then there's something fundamentally wrong with having 500 man teams put out glitchy overmonetized crap.

shinoff218310h ago

Interesting. Prey was a good game, evil within was dope, and hi fi was the best Xbox game that Xbox has had in so many years. That's according to the base.

romulus239h ago

HiFi Rush was a really good game actually so that's hardly the reason for shutting down Tango.

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