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CDPR CEO: Rockstar, Blizzard & Bethesda Are The World's Top Three [RPG] Developers

CD Projekt RED's CEO Marcin Iwinski crowned Rockstar, Blizzard and Bethesda as the top three [RPG] developers, though one will have to go to make way.

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Mostafeto2843d ago

I agree with Rockstar and Bethesda but imo he should have put his own company among these top three like come on now.

naruga2843d ago (Edited 2842d ago )

i disagree....Naughty Dog , FromSoftware and Sony 's Japan Studio or Nintendos internal studios ...these are the top game developers imo ....game developers must be judged on quality not quantity

PS .. i would also add Capcom s former self ..(90s-early 00's) ...Capcom was literally saturated nursery of talents that time

ScorpiusX2843d ago (Edited 2843d ago )

Yet his choice were based on them being independent Studios from the look of the names

@llFloodyll let me clarify none owned by a platform maker , unlike naruga comment which mentions ND & Sony's Japan studio .

IIFloodyII2843d ago (Edited 2843d ago )

@ScorpiusX

None of them are Independent, Rockstar is owned by TakeTwo, Bethesda by Zenimax and Blizzard by Activision-Blizzard.

Voiceofsoi2843d ago

There's two sides to the argument for sure. Naughty Dog and the first party studios definitely go for quality over quantity but as an RPG fan, I have to say quantity is a form of quality. It's not just value for money, it's a representation of the amount of freedom and choice one has in a game, something that linear games can't really offer.

As far as polish goes Nintendo and Sony (including Naughty Dog) are the forerunners, but it's Bethesda, and only Bethesda really, that still attempts to create AAA games with fully cohesive interactive worlds, where you can be whoever you want, go wherever you want, do whatever you want, wherever you want, however you want - attack any NPC, etc., which is why their games seem a lot less "polished". It's a different kind of "quality".

Then there are studios that do their best to find a happy medium between extreme polish and extreme freedom like Rockstar, CD Projeckt Red, and From Software.

I respect all of these developers equally and recognise that they all have their own definition of quality.

ComradeCoffee2843d ago

Why do you put Japan Studio up there? I can't really think of much they have done on there own that has totally panned out. Maybe I'm forgetting something. Mine would probably be ND, Rockstar, and blizzard. Even though not all the games from the three always speak to me I think the quality is of a level you can't really ignore. Bethesda I would say the quality needs to improve on some things, I think CDPR's last game shows that to some extent.

Davemyrose5922843d ago

Yea man no doubt just about to say that!

Kingthrash3602843d ago (Edited 2843d ago )

This is dumb.
Guy just likes open word games then. Bethesda while they put out quality it's, always buggy. I'd put project red and rockstar in my top 5. ND, bungie, and nintendo have put out major high quality games.
>>>>>imo <<<<<

MachuchalBrotha3162843d ago

Nah, Ive definitely enjoyed playing Rockstar, Bethesda and Blizzard games more than anything ND, From Software or Sony japan have put out. Think of the games those companies make and how many hours of your life have gone to them. From GTA, Diablo to Elderscrolls series. 1000hrs.....

_-EDMIX-_2842d ago

errrrr not really.

Naughty Dog might be the only top studio you named.

I like From Software and Sony's Japan Studio, but I would never really call those "top studios" or anything like that.

Rockstar, Bethesda are huge top studios that are not the norm of game development or recognition. MOST game developers won't have that type of appeal or mass fan base.

Bethesda shipped 12 million units of Fallout 4 in a single day.....

Not the norm of a RPG, not even slightly.

Rockstar moved 55 million units of GTAV......again, NOT the norm of game sales, not even a little bit, both did this was ridiculous number of GOTY awards.

You may not like em, sure.....but its pretty insane to really try to downplay their significance in the market.

_-EDMIX-_2842d ago

@IIFloodyII- with Bethesda, yes and no.

The head of the team of Bethesda owns Zenimax...

mark_parch2842d ago

naughty dog are superb at making one type of game ( cimematic single player storys ) but they haven't made a game that people put over 200 hours into like gta or skyrim

DLConspiracy2842d ago

I love Uncharted.. but.. is it really an RPG game? That's what this article is about right?

bouzebbal2842d ago

Read the title first "The World's Top Three [RPG] Developers"..

I personally don't like any of these because i'm not much into occidental RPGs, my top 3 RPG makers are obviously japanese:
Enix
Tri Ace
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Nathan_Hale532842d ago

@Voiceofsoi

Fallout 4 was very restricted as an RPG. Very shallow leveling, you have a very set path for a story, not much loot, but a great mod system, and ass for DLC.

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Overload2843d ago

Naughty Dog not being on here is a crime.

MyDietEqualsGames2843d ago (Edited 2843d ago )

It's his opinion and not one I agree with. Id, Naughty Dog and CDPR are it for me, with Fromsoft moving in and out of each one, depending how I feel at the moment.

MachuchalBrotha3162843d ago

Why is it a crime when it his opinion. Your opinion will certainly always differ from someone elses. Theres no wrong or right answer.

List yours and someone will disagree with your list.

Livecustoms2842d ago

can you read, it says RPG developer

ThyMasterDebater2842d ago

Agreed. Clearly games influence people in different ways in this translate to their opinion.. hence why you shouldn't take opinion pieces as fact.

Utalkin2me2842d ago

@MachuchalBrotha316

Yes, but even opinion you can bring facts into the mix such as average scores of games and such. While it is his opinion Bethesda is on there, their total lifetime average of games is a 76 which doesn't come close to some of the other developers.

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Brazz2843d ago

Rockstar and Blizzard are the best. Bethesda is shit, i would take Naughty dogs, Nintendo internal studios or CDPR over Bethesda anyday of the week.

Gaming_Cousin2843d ago

Lol Bethesda is crap. They introduced the stupid DLC skins. they have buggy ass games. Fallout 4 runs like **** on PC. They are giving PC gamers a free Skyrim HD remaster yet the console players have to pay. They're season pass for Fallout 4 was crap.

Lamboomington2842d ago (Edited 2842d ago )

ND is an internal, first party studio. They don't fit the comparison. CDPR is referring very obviously to massive multiplatform devs with huge IPs and that are very successful. They're two very different things. Not to mention it wouldn't make sense for them to say "We want to get to where ND is", unless they're talking specifically about some game design element or character animation or something specific to the game experience.

Blizzard, Bethesda and Rockstar make perfect sense in this comparison. Naughty Dog or any other exclusive studio wouldn't make sense here.

oasdada2843d ago

he is talking about rpg game devs.. hopefully guerrilla games soon?

overrated442842d ago

Well...CD Projekt Red ARE probably the best dev studio out there making RPGs. Why not include yourself among the best when you are considered to be the best by a lot of people?

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Garethvk2843d ago (Edited 2843d ago )

I think EA and Activision would argue with this. Especially since one makes the best selling game series of the past decade.

Artemidorus2843d ago

All about the sales yet you don't see a penny.

Garethvk2843d ago

The point is there are two very big publishers that would take severe exception to the list.

Bradk7212843d ago

But they don't make very good games. Just bc ppl flock to them without even thinking first just shows they own a very ignorant fan base. Ppl that don't care to pay for the same exact games over and over. When they do change things it's never for the best. Those 2 companies are known for not listening to their consumers. They don't care about how good their games are...

_-EDMIX-_2842d ago

@Brad- "But they don't make very good games"

Sooooo gamers just buying air orrrr?

overrated442842d ago

Being the "best" and number of sales are not synonymous.

hells_supernova2843d ago

Bethesda no. Their games are showing their age now. While Skyrim was amazing The Witcher beats it in every way. Bethesda needs a new engine.

Rockstar and Blizzard are hard to argue against always delivering quality products.

For me Naughty Dog are there as well. Nintendo should be acknowledged cause their games when made internally are always fantastic.

Brazz2843d ago

can't agree more. To me Bethesda is above the averenge, but certainly not top 3.

Alexious2843d ago

Well, Fallout 4 is still a pretty good game though I agree that The Witcher 3 is superior. But Bethesda made history with some games in the past.

DrJones2842d ago

Alexious

Yes, in the past.

DarkZane2843d ago

There is also the problem that Bethesda games are riddled with bugs and glitches.

_-EDMIX-_2842d ago

Like Witcher 3?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Sooo why is many love ignoring this games issues? lol

BlackTar1872842d ago

You can't compare the two games when it comes to the glitches. Beth games hold the crown and set the bar too high for anyone but Ubisoft to come close to.

Nathan_Hale532842d ago

@EDMIX

Okay, so a weird, creepy glitch means it is trashed with glitches when Fallout 4 has many game breaking glitches? Originally Witcher 3 had a few glitches and very few game breaking glitches, which are mostly patched out. Fallout 4 is still a mess. Hell, Skyrim and New Vegas are glitchy messes, and I love both of those over F4. Fallout 4 also looks and runs worse on console and PC at times due to not only mediocre optimization, but an old engine that NEEDS an update this next game.

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Square Enix Declares $140m Loss Amid Game Pipeline Shakeup

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth publisher Square Enix has declared a $140m loss based on a shakeup of its internal development pipeline.

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Furesis12h ago

What are they doing over there? Sounds like they canceled something big. I read a rumor a while back about ff9 remake . Here "Final Fantasy IX has gone through a very challenging development, the game is still in progress but may undergo changes drastic enough that we won't hear about it for a couple of years."
This could be one of the reasons if the rumor is true. That was Silknight i don't know how credible he is but it's something and it would make sense.

-Foxtrot10h ago

I hope IX is still on the cards

Just a straight up remake which they expand a little bit nothing over ambitious

If IX dosent happen then VI and VIII will never be thought of.

Kakashi Hatake23m ago

6 and 8 were way more p popular games despite today's cult following of 9.

TiredGamer9h ago

What are they doing? Sales are falling and the costs are out of control. Big releases need to be absolute sales home runs now, and Final Fantasy sales have stagnated.

Now we know why Square didn’t fall over themselves to remake the original FF7 all these years ago. It certainly wasn’t a license to print money, at least not with what the expectations were. Each of these full on remakes drains an enormous amount of company resources for a razor thin profit margin.

TwoPicklesGood9h ago

Breaking the game up into multiple parts was a mistake IMO.

blackblades7h ago

The loses came from cancelling games nothing else.

shadowT11h ago

Do not miss Final Fantasy 16. Great game!

raWfodog11h ago

I'm waiting for them to release the complete edition bundle, but it's definitely on my list.

PhillyDonJawn10h ago

Wth is going on with the gaming industry?

mandf9h ago

Corporate investors taking everything

TiredGamer9h ago

Not rocket science. Compare sales numbers, development cycles, and budgets to the previous gens. We are all collectively burning up the industry from the inside out. Expectations are ludicrously high now for every release and sales are dropping for even the most prestigious of series.

We used to be satisfied paying $50-60 for a game that took 1/100th the budget and staff to make. Now gamers feel cheated if they have to pay the same for a game that took 100x the budget. We may be reaching the end of the line for this model of gaming.

wiz71915h ago

@tiredgamer I think your point is one that ppl don’t understand and you hit it on the nose .. some gamers don’t want to take accountability but it’s some of the gamers fault the industry is where it’s at .. we as gamers set the standards for the industry not the shareholders , ppl forget that the shareholders and the industry want and need OUR Money. Both the Xbox and PlayStation are seeing a drop in hardware , the industry is very stagnant right now.

Tacoboto6h ago

Speaking to Square:

Turns out their mismanagement wasn't related to the western studios they dumped to Embracer, but their own fault.

With regards to Xbox - a good way to kill your brand is to pull support on high quality titles and only dump B and C-tier titles to it

With regards to PC - Epic Games Story exclusivity for any duration and piss-poor optimization will hurt you.

With regards to FF Pixel Remasters - y'all messed up by barely releasing them on physical, like wtf that was free money!

And lastly, you don't help a franchise by releasing a mainline title that undermines every title that came before it. FFXVI was a DMC-like with bottom-of-the-barrel side quests and I can't imagine that helping Rebirth at all considering its marketing is directly tied to how big that game is.

Tacoboto5h ago

Sony is getting their best titles and with the most polish, so what about it? Nintendo gets their top properties too, for titles that can run on Switch hardware.

It's the other fanbases that get the second- and third-class treatment from Square. If that's due to agreements with Sony, that's not a Sony issue but a Square one for accepting those terms. Sony is doing its best to look out for Sony.

TiredGamer10h ago

The industry implosion is continuing. Sky high budgets, prolonged development windows, stagnant sales numbers, and falling currency values (inflation) are wreaking havoc on the legacy industry. AAA games will slowly become the rarity.

CS710h ago

Sad. Rebirth was one of my favorite games in a long time. Should have sold more.

CrimsonWing699h ago

Oh I’m with you. What’s worse is they can say, “Well we tried to make this amazing game and spend all this money on, but not enough people showed an interest. So no more of these since we can’t take a hit like that.”

The industry is going to take a dramatic shift. Mark my words on this.

rpvenom8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I think there is quite a large portion of individuals like myself who held out on buying it on PS5 because I can get it on PC eventually. To be able to mod the game and also have custom graphical settings to my liking

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Here's Everything I Expect From The Witcher 4's Combat

Danish from eXputer: "The Witcher's upcoming sequel needs to overhaul the series' combat system if it wants to make a big splash among gamers."

on_line_forever16h ago

after what we see ( 2015 - 2024 ) in dark souls 3, blood borne , sekiro , dragon's dogma 2 , rise of the Ronin combat they should really careful and bring very good combat in Witcher 4 this time

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Square & Bandai Namco Being Honest About Quality Is A Step In The Right Direction

Saad from eXputer: "After suffering from massive financial hits, Square Enix & Bandai Namco appear to be turning over a new leaf but I'm still unconvinced."

Nerdmaster1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

I was talking about games with some Japanese guys here in Japan, and it seems like around here Bandai Namco has a fame of making low-quality games, with the occasional gem.

About Square Enix, I believe they lack the capacity to improve. They should learn with Capcom (although even Capcom still makes some bad mistakes), but I don't think they ever will. They keep chasing whatever is new at the time (blockchain, AI...) to say "we innovate", without considering the public perception and if these things actually improve the games or not. Them releasing too many small games with no advertising also shows a lack of trust in its own products. Even with their biggest games, like turning FF into an action game with XVI and the very divisive plot changes regarding whispers and timelines in VII Remake, shows them trying to attract a new generation of gamers without understanding what made the series so big in the first place.

shinoff21831d 1h ago

I want a true ff7 remake. With thatcsaid I'm way happier with 7 remake then I was with ff16. I'd still prefer turn based but square keep chasing these Lil kids

Snookies1222h ago

Man, it is perfectly fine to prefer turn based. Turn based is amazing. But there's zero reason to call anyone who likes action games "lil kids". Liking one gameplay system over another does not make you more mature in any way.

VersusDMC1d 1h ago

People love the new FF's overall...the problem is the abundance of 7's they release that lose money or make very little like diofield, star ocean divine force, Valkyrie asylum, harvestella, foam stars, etc. Advertising wouldn't have saved those games. Apparently Forespoken had a big Advertising budget but we saw how that went.

shinoff21831d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Star ocean divine force actually sold well from what I've read not ff type numbers but well enough. Was a dope game to.

FinalFantasyFanatic23h ago

Bandai Namco is going to Bandai Namco, I do believe that Square Enix can't change without changing the entire management, they've had these issues for more than a decade and haven't learnt, I have very little faith they can course correct. I'll still buy their better remasters/remakes like Star Ocean 2 though (not FF7R).

Asterphoenix21h ago

Namco is just milking the same Sword Art Online with lack of budget as well as anime IPs that don't go to decent developers like Jujutsu Kaisen and My Hero Academia. Namco deserves their losses and no future Dot Hack or Xenosaga remaster :(.

Square allocated lot of their budget on Forspoken was a mistake. Square always had management issues. Star Ocean 2 was a great remake and I found their recent entries of FF(16 and Rebirth) better than 13 and 15.
I think they were better than 360/PS3 generation where Square went really downhill.

CrimsonWing691d ago

I don’t know why NOW they decide on this, but I guess later is better than never.