PS4 remote play for the PC coming this Wednesday but it’s going to cost you

Twisted has been working on this PS4 remote play for the PC for quite some time. He has released the cracked android version of this for everyone to enjoy for free. Now he has been working on his PS4 remote play project for over a year and this Wednesday it looks like it will be finally released.

[rajman]

Yup this wont go down well with Sony since he will be making money from it. He should do what others have done and make it free and accept donations instead

[OptimusC]

kinda dug himself a hole if you ask me.

[Null]

I don't understand your phantom disagrees.

I tried to tell him on twitter, but he wouldn't listen to reason, but he wouldn't Listen to reason, so he blocked me.

I tried to tell him it doesn't matter if he or the almighty SOSA himself ported it to Windows once you start charging for something you didn't make or own the rights to expect trouble. I told him IT DOESN'T matter if you spent time reverse engineering someone else's original work and got it working 1:1 somewhere else. It's still someone else's work and you're being scummy mongrel charging for it(not even reasonable 30 people first day and he's charging $10.. not an easy $5, but ten). I told him IT DOESN'T what you think. what does matter is this can and will get YOU into serious legal hot water and once Sony slaps you with official court documents it's over, I even asked about simply making donations an option, but he just kept going on about "MUH FREE TIME" "MUH HOURS SPENT WORKING ON BUGS" (Because of his gluttony Sony's probably going to patch this anyway.) I guess this is why he took over the original project, went closed source and denied anyone access to the program. I'm starting to think that he and the E-GPU Dev guy are the same person.

Don't worry though. If he wants to be scum, I can be scum too. I'll just buy it from a shell and release it for free on MEGA or something. Call me a pirate or what ever you'd like, but wake up and look at what he's doing. I'm just making what was once free, free again for everyone

[Crimzon]

@Null

Sheesh, the guy sounds like he's doing this for all the wrong reasons. The fact he's gone closed source on this tells me everything that I need to know and when Sony eventually gets round to slapping him with a legal notice for trying to make money off their service I won't be feeling sorry for him. I do feel sorry for anyone silly enough to buy what he's selling, though.

[uth11]

I can't blame him for wanting to charge for his hard work. Most of the people who disagree have probably never worked on a project like this in their spare time.

The problem is anyone would be a fool to buy it. Sony won't be happy about their protocols being hacked, and they will likely soon issue patches for the PS4 and official remote play apps, locking this out.

And others mention possible PSN ban for users of this app. I don't know how realistic this is, but why risk it?

[guitarded77]

I'm sure it's built using some code that Sony owns, so they can shut him down. The good thing is now that gamers see it as a real, working thing, Sony will kinda be forced to do it themselves as gamers will want it.

[Gohadouken]

@uth11

That's not how it works . No one forced him to dive into the project and spend those hours .

Complaining about that now , is akin to some volunteer worker suddendly asking for a salary and pay , because of the numerous hours he sank into it .

It's wrong , and like everyone said , useless for many reasons like future patches and lawsuits

[uth11]

No, what's wrong is everyone feeling entitled to it for free when they didn't lift a finger to make it happen, and blaming him. Instead of being thankful someone actually tried to make this work. And I can't wait to see the collective hissy fit when he stops supporting it out of exasperation.

[LordMaim]

@uth11: More like when he gets hit with a cease and desist order.

[Gohadouken]

@uth11

Actually what's wrong is trying to charge something from working on an illegal and unauthorized product . Everyone knows that once it's attempted , it's usually tolerance zero from the manufacturers . But hey if he can take the heat so be it .

Besides you know very well that the app wasnt "advertized" as paid first . He could just have said so from the beginning but didnt to build up expectations .

We all know what will happens . First someone wont care and distribute his stuff for free . Then HE will throw a hissy fit . If not shut down first

[joab777]

Yep. Its a bad situation but as soon as he charges, it will be pirated and Sony will sue. Not worth it.

Better to accept donations.

[bmf7364]

I will be looking forward to the pirate of this pirate software

[The_BlackHeart__]

The last time Sony took a pirate to court their network went down for weeks, and had to let him go. I'm not saying Geohot was involved into the PSN hacks, but he certainly has "friends" that sympathize with what he did for the scene.

[fei-hung]

It would be class if Sony don't sue him, but counter it by just releasing a better version for free at PSX.

[UKmilitia]

i didnt realise that the pc remote play wasnt offical.
i thought it was Sony releasing it.

[garrettbobbyferguson]

I have to ask; what is the issue here? He's charging for his remote play program to stream to a PC. He's not charging for the use of a Sony product. I legitimately don't see the issue.

[captainexplosion]

Is this to stream only within your home wifi network or can you stream from anywhere?

[IIFloodyII]

Streams from the PS4, depending on how good your Internet is, you can getting working on a Vita from miles away.

[kayoss]

Not sure if this will work the same way as the PS vita or PSTV. But i live in California and travel to Toronto often for work. I used to bring my PS4 because i could be there for weeks. But it sucks carrying a system around in your luggage. The PS Vita works great (i tried it) but playing Destiny on that thing sucks. So i bought a PS TV so that i can use my dualshock 4. Even with the shoddy hotel internet, I was able to stream Destiny. I completed an entire raid with no hiccups. But i do run into issue once in a while (mostly lag and the occasional lost of communication). But for my ps4 to be in California and me streaming it from all the way from Toronto, to me it's impressive.

[whothedog]

I think sony will offer it free at some point

[Zero109]

Coming from the same company that's making you pay (a ridiculous price at that) to stream the games you already own to your PS4? I would understand games you didn't own but that price point is bs.

[Aenea]

Think a minute before replying, why don't you?

RemotePlay does not use any of Sony's resources, the only thing it cost them is making of the programs, nothing more, nothing less.

PS Now streaming games to you means they have a whole bunch of servers around the world (well, UK and North America currently), those servers aren't free, neither is the network. Add in the fact that publishers want to see money for their games being played using it and you get why they have to charge an amount for it that you don't like. Maybe the price seems high, and yes, I would not pay that on a monthly basis either, but it is what it is...

[madmonkey01]

not everyone that uses ps now owns the games on it, and ou dont need a ps4 to use it.

[BLAKHOODe]

Microsoft is changing the game with all it's recent upgrades. Sony will soon follow. That's how it's always been. A constant cat and mouse game of one-up-manship. If the Xbox One is the top selling console this Holiday, we'll see this feature and more coming out of Sony sooner than later.

[uth11]

I'm not paying for something unofficial when Sony is likely to release a patch to break it

[Ripsta7th]

That will most likely happen
they will prolly wait to see how many suckers fall for it and the BAM
banned from PSn lol

[jmc8888]

He should of thought of all the time he put in BEFORE spending all these hours.

It's pretty obvious this isn't going to fly with Sony. Love it or hate it, it's OBVIOUS.

Also, many people don't need to do this. It's called...
Grab remote.
Hit input button
select up or down a few times
Hit Ok/enter

My 4ktv which was showing my PS4 is now showing my PC.

[MyDietEqualsGames]

Wouldnt have to select another input if ps4 games can run from the desktop through this or an official means by Sony.

[DarkZane]

This is the kind of thing I wouldn't feel guilty to pirate.

[Rookie_Monster]

Very unfortunate as streaming on Windows with console is amazing and I use it everyday but knowing Sony they would definitely put a stop to this with a patch. Hopefully Sony can release their own official remote play on PC app soon for free to us PS4 owners.

[HawaiianDreads]

Well this won't last long. I understand the work he put in to making this work, but he should understand if you're using someone else property without his/her permission, they have the right and most likely will sue and shut down said project.

[Yahdaree]

On one hand this is the kind of guy where you can appreciate his work but either way, it's not his to sell.

[Tobsesan]

Sony will release it soon i guess for.free

[Dragonking007]

Smh -continues playing remoteplay for free on note 5-

[mozzie]

So let me get this straight.. This PS4 remote play on PC which was in the news recently is actually not an official Sony feature?!

[THC CELL]

Lol be funny if Sony released a Official version of this remote play and slap him with a law suit hmm what I wanna no is how do u lot know he not gunna hack your account remote play needs codes and names

[TWB]

Im only basing this off from the Android version, but if he indeed had malware/spyware/keyloggers in the app, he would have been kicked way earlier out of the XDA developers forum which has a pretty good reputation. Besides doesnt the log in work through your browser and not through the app?

And ofcourse, the app was pretty much a port and not really new code.

In the case of Windows port and taking into account that he is actually selling it, I dont have any proof and quite honestly trust him a little less.

[wheresmymonkey]

He's going to get one of those lovely cease and desist orders pretty soon.

Not sure he understands how copyright works at all. If you reverse engineer something, you're using their code. PlayStation, PS4 are all Sony trademarks, this app breaks into their systems.

Basically there are a million ways in which Sonys lawyers can smack him about the face and shut it down.

if he'd kept it free he could have said it's fair use and he just wanted to ee if it could be done for research purposes.

Now Sony will just take his code, take him to court and release his work, for free, in a couple of months.

Just you watch.

[Nightmar3Demom]

It is a shame. I would have been perfectly fine with donating twice as much simply for the hard work and time that he put into making it.

But to charge people for something that is most definitely going to be shut down almost as soon as it's released?

Na, I'll pass.

[kingPoS]

Yup, yup & yup! You betcha Sony's gonna Crack down on this guy harder than a hammer on a walnut.

Someone's already broken into their home twice. The first time to shut down their water (psn) the second time to snooping through, lookin for dirt. And now they're's this guy tryin to come into their own basement and make a dime off what they built...

...Cyber or real, it don't change the fact of what it is, home invasion.

Copyright trolls on the other hand, they may as well be vapor for all the substance they they stand behind.

Gateway MT6706 2008

[DillyDilly]

Why would Sony shut this down ? They let people make money off of walkthroughs with or without commentary on Youtube

[killcole]

Sounds like a bit of a farce imo.

If only there was a console with the option to remotely stream games to a PC on the market. I'd be so down for that. In fact, if it was officially supported it might actually be a very good reason to buy the console.

[Gohadouken]

Isnt that the whole point of the windows 10 support on XB1 ? MS know they will profit from building up a window/xbl based service at some point , rather than a singular console

[killcole]

Oh! There's a console that already supports it?

That sounds like a cool feature. But I've heard the PS4 is outselling the Xbox massively?

[NeoGamer232]

Let's see...

There are 27 million PS4 owners.

If 1% of PS4 owners buy the app at $10 each, the guy will make $270,000.

I don't know what living expenses he has, but frankly that would be ridiculous.

[Null]

And that is why he's gonna get sued

[L0NGSHOT28]

Sony will get wind of this, and buy it out. And I'm sure he's hoping that'll happen.

[2pacalypsenow]

No Sony will just make their own and block and sue this guy

[1nsomniac]

Oh I thought all this talk was about official compatibility from Sony.

This will get shut down almost instantly. Even if it was done with absolutely no infringement Sony wouldn't let this happen. They would shut him down then steal his work & sell it somehow as their own.