One Short Pause member isn't sold on EA & Dice's claims to deliver a true Star Wars experience, and here are his reasons why.
I find it ironic that the main reason behind the lack of interest by the article writer in Battlefront is due to the potential lack of content and it not offering value for money but then he goes on to praise Bungie for getting it right with Destiny. Each to their own I guess but for me, Destiny is the best example I can think of for lack of content.
That and he spends most of the article talking about BF4. This isn't BF4. And Destiny was the biggest money grab I've seen this gen. No story whatsoever unless you plan on buying all their DLC. Hating is cool. We've had one reveal trailer and everyones an expert already.
No story? Guess you didn't play Destiny then, because it had a story (not the best, but still better then COD and BF storys). My worry is because it's EA and DICE. Bad servers until what years later it works the way it should have and being able pay real money for battlepacks. Hope it isn't a mess like BF4 was.
To Omegashen I watched the playthrough on youtube, all I remeber is "I could tell you but I wont" "I dont have time to explain why i dont have time to explain" "the traveller" wtf is he, an oversize golf ball? Is there Someoene inside? wthy is anything the way it is? All mission were go shoot, scan, nothing more,
I DID play Destiny. That's how I know there wasn't a story. I didn't buy any DLC to actually hear the story if thats what you meant. Hardline just recently launched. Zero server issues and I played on PC & Consoles
@yarbie Zero? You must miss it when n4g was talking about it, hardlines is a waste of money to play cops and robbers. Its BF4 with cops and robbers. Rainbow Six doing cops and robbers the way hardlines should have done. @Sir_Simba Theres more to the story then the one liners, plus its the same thing that every other fps is. You go and kill things. Just it is more open world about.
Omegashen - He's right when he calls you out on Destiny's lack of story. Here's a rundown of the entire destiny story.. we're on earth, there's the fallen, they came from the moon! Go to the moon! Shoot, there's a message coming from Venus.. and what are these vex machines? Who cares, to Venus! Meet the stranger.. she doesn't have time to explain literally anything. Go to the reef, meet the queen and her lustful brother. Go to mars, fight the Cabal because.. they're there. Shoot the vex are here too, they're coming from the black garden. Kill the boss, the end.
@DivoJones - What you described is a more complex story than many games have. @yarbie - I don't think you know what a money grab is, and yes of course Destiny has a story even without buying any DLC.
just to be fair here, most people who complain about destiny's lack of content have prolly played for 50+ hours. now, you can SAY you only played 1-20 hours, but the vast majority of people who were disappointed played the hell out of it and simply got everything they wanted. the hate campaign towards destiny is just a cry from entitled "hardcore gamers" and it's pathetic, tbh. getting even 30+ hours out of any game is worth the price these days. if you didn't like it for the gameplay then that's another thing. but playing a game for 40+ hours before supposedly realizing that it has a "lack of content" is just ridiculous. i mean, you obviously liked it enough to WANT to keep playing it after all those hours and WANTING more content.
As I stated in the article, I have 110 hours logged into Destiny. Had I played that game alone, I'd agree with you 150% and wouldn't even have a quarter of that time put into it. Destiny's lackluster story was a huge turn off to me since I'm someone who loves experiencing single player stories. That being said, having friends who still run the raids, weekly's, daily's continues to bring me back to it. I still have fun just kicking back and trying to get through a nightfall with my friends. But it's hard to look at that 110 hours and say I didn't get my moneys worth despite the absolutely underwhelming amount of content. I look at Battlefront as a package similar to Titanfall and know I'm maybe getting 5-15 hours depending if the game is capable of drawing me in. Obviously, we'll wait and see as it's possible that something comes up that at the very least has me say "hmm that's kinda cool" but I'm remaining cautious. Like someone below said, it's very possible I go into this game thinking this way and it absolutely blows my mind =)
* This "Article" has AGENDA written all over it.
Everyone has an opinion as to why they're skeptical. You can't really knock someone's skepticism these days when it involves the gaming industry, if you think he / she is right or not. We're dealing with DICE / EA for this game. Of course people are going to approach this game with caution, they should imo. Blindly following hype gets people burned. Wait and see gameplay, and make your own decision, stop following hype trains.
Sure you can. Because skepticism has to be based on something real. What this guy did was stop playing while the game was buggy at BF4 launch.... He could play it for 10-20 hours before writing this idiotic article, but is too lazy. He says he has Hardline, but is again too lazy to play it. Then he just makes crap up. BF4 had on-rails vehicles too, and they worked just fine. Anyone remember the plane where you could parachute out of? Or had a couple of guns/cannons? Same thing. Just now on the ground. Worked just fine for Battlefield, but because he didn't play the game, he just talks about 'on-rails' like it's some pure on-rail game. It's insane and wrong. So yes, you can knock it, because what he did was completely unprofessional. Complete FUD. This article is pure trash.
The skepticism IS based off of something. You can't be skeptical of a developer or a publisher without a track record. In this case, EA and DICE have a one and it's not pleasant in my past experiences. Allow me to give you some insight about me. I work 2 jobs so 10-20 hours to sink into a game needs to be something that earns it. Yea, I abandoned trying to play Battlefield 4 at launch because it was broken. Worst part there and the key reason I haven't tried to go back is because the friends I play BF with did the same exact thing. When you don't have endless hours to game, you don't waste the time that you do have trying to play something that just doesn't work. I honestly wish I could agree that I was being lazy by not playing Hardline. I loved what I played of the beta and that alone swayed my decision to even pick it up. So as far as I know, Hardline is awesome and I definitely want to pop on and check it out but at the same time I want to finish Bloodborne, Bastion, Ori and Mortal Kombat X. I gather that you're an EA/Battlefield fan and that's totally fine but you should probably accept that they aren't the gods that you're treating them as. Battlefront shouldn't have on-rails anything. It's a Stars Wars fantasy simulator. The Star Wars battles in my mind don't have AT-AT's that only traverse on a predetermined path. You complain that I draw my skepticism from BF4 yet you're trying to use BF4 to defend your opinion? That's exactly my problem. It shouldn't be anything like Battlefield.
Right it is skeptical to be young padawan
Why did they leave out all the features we want the most? I thought they want money, because that's one easy way to make Battlefront fans buy it.
I think it's healthy to be sceptical and be proven wrong. Better to be pleasantly surprised rather than horribly disappointed.
Yes, it's healthy to be skeptical, but his whole article was about how he didn't play after BF4 launch, and he guessed and made crap up. That isn't being skeptical, that's being wrong.
There's a difference between skepticism and cynicism. Too many people fall in the later camp.
Oh for sure, I agree 100%. This hobby is about joy and wondrous things, there's no place for unwarranted cynicism either. It's just that, in this case, EA have past form. This time I think they need to earn our trust rather than just expect it.
"It's just that, in this case, EA have past form." EA and DICE both, but I've learned not to hype things up too much for myself. It nearly always leads to disappointment. I call it the Prometheus Effect, in honor of the Ridley Scott movie that let me down in a huge way.
@MysticStrummer: Ah I think you might have misunderstood. I mean that they have past form in overhyping and underdelivering, and this time they don't deserve our unconditional faith. They have to earn it - and if it's good, I'll buy it. No preorder.
Everybody is focusing on what this game isn't, not what it is. It could be great, we just need to know more. On one hand people complain when developers give us the same game over and over again. Then on games like this they complain when developers don't give us the same game over and over again. So I'm still optimistic.
Dude, why write an article when all you are going to do is guess based on the launch BF4 game? He says he has BF4 and Hardline, but doesn't boot it up... Why even write the article when all you are going to do is guess and make accusations based on incorrect stuff? Stop being lazy and BOOT UP THE GAMES!!!!! How anyone could seriously write an article without playing since BF4 launch is completely idiotic. Nothing he wrote is justified because he is going off a limited time playing that is 1 1/2 years old, isn't the situation now, and he hasn't even played Hardline. How on Earth can he write a title saying 'is justified', yet he hasn't played the games? I mean seriously, he talks about on-rails and doesn't even know what he's talking about because... he didn't play Battlefield 4 and used complete sophistry on why he hasn't gone back. Dude, if you want to write an article, please do it better then a kindergartener.
Lolololololol it's not out of laziness that I haven't booted up Hardline. It's installed, I just haven't had time to play it. The whole point of this was to express my concerns based on being burned in the past by this dev/publisher and due to the info out there being what it is. Sorry you don't agree.
My Lack of Faith in Gaming Journalism is Disturbing, but Justified. Here we have another.... Upset because the simple truth that this is a reboot of the first Battlefield game seems to be beyond his ability to comprehend. It's both annoying and saddening to see how many people can't grasp this. Beyond that is the sickening sense of entitlement that is on display. I'm very worried about the future off gaming culture, and thus gaming in general. The minority who love to spit venom at companies for not meeting their overblown expectations based on things that they have in their imagination will eventually start to effect developers in a negative way. Have you ever had a job where, no mater how hard you work, or how good of a job you think you're doing, all you get is negative feedback?... Did you want to continue doing that job? If I were a dev, I would have quit already.
There seems to be three crowds for this game. The first crowd are gonna buy it regardless of anything, since this is the only attempt at the battlefront series we've seen in a decade, the second(like me) are more worried about EA having the reputation that they have and pushing this game out potentially before it's even ready to line up with a movie release and milking it with DLC along the way(looks at deluxe edition). The third probably arent gonna buy it at all because of the missing modes or unless the multiplayer is orgasmically good. Ultimately everyone of these groups is still susceptible to getting milked by EA's DLC shenanigans out of nostalgia anyway, so that should be the main argument, lol. EA is in the background like this laughing it up : https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Also it may be likely given the interest in matching the movies release window that they cut features and stuck to multiplayer to make it in time.
I fully agree with what you are saying here. I've never been one to fall in with hype to the point of buying blindly, and I've never been on the hate filled opposite side. The trend here on N4G went from over hyped, to full on hate within the span of half an hour. I understand trepidation when it comes to EA launches, but, on the other hand, I remain optimistic. God knows that Battlefield 4 had a rocky beginning, but it has been well handled since. The Hardline rollout was far better, so hopefully they're learning. The hate coming from those that don't realize that this is a reboot of 1, which did not have the features that some people are going as far as saying have been removed, is what I find far more disappointing. Being angry about features missing that never existed in the first place is pain nuts.
I think I'm of the mindset to buy the game, but only after there's an Ultimate/Complete edition and for sale at half off. It'll be worth something, but just not $60 and much less paying EA day one.
Also, fixed bugs and more mature online community since I bet alot of people will make this game last a while, maybe as long as Destiny?
This is obviously a heated topic right now judging by the many various opinions on the matter. While I don't necessarily agree with Frankie's opinion of Star Wars: Battlefront (personally I'm excited for it to arrive because of the fond memories I had of the PS2 version and it's multiplayer gameplay), I can see why he's making comparisons to the Battlefield franchise; mainly the ones that involved Dice and EA, and the way things played out with Battlefield 4. Sure its a different setting, different franchise, but the people behind Battlefront are the same folks behind Battlefield, so skepticism (and cynicism) are understandable especially if people are tired of getting burned by lousy campaign modes, EA's tendency to milk a franchise's name, and poor online functionality found in past titles. I'm with a majority of you though, I'm going to give Battlefront a chance (despite my past experiences with DICE/EA) simply because I love everything Star Wars! I really hope we get to see some gameplay soon, because I feel that will alleviate a lot of uncertainty.
I'm pretty much only giving them until E3 to recover from this. They are well aware of the concerns from fans, they see all these comments, articles and posts about player concerns. They know what we want and what we are looking for. If I don't see what I need to see at E3 then my hopes for this game are completely shot. I can deal with some of the missing features, especially where we don't know everything about the game yet, but as of now DICE and especially EA aren't winning me over, or my wallet for that matter