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The Co-op Podcast #82: Will Microsoft’s New Direction Make Xbox One The Leading Console?

Gary Swaby at The Koalition writes: On this week's episode of The Co-op podcast we spoke a lot about the recent news regarding Microsoft. Their sales have doubled since E3 and the price drop of the Xbox One; and unfortunately they've also shut down their entertainment division aimed at delivering original TV content to the console. Around 18000 people lost their jobs which is unfortunate, but it shows Microsoft is changing focus. Does this mean that Microsoft's new approach is all about games? Does this also mean that they'll win the majority of the gamers moving forward? Let us know what you think after listening to our discussions.

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bicfitness3580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

NPD just answered with a "no". Why are we still having this discussion? The trajectory of each is pretty much set now, and with the Xbox marketing cuts, they won't be making any great inroads into EU. Japan is a write-off, I think we can all agree. Also, there was another story this morning about the larger mobile-patent purse strings that props up the Devices and Services Division being cut. Which explains why we didn't see any "megaton" exclusives announced at E3: the money well is no longer unlimited.

At best, MS is fighting for 2nd place now. And world-wide, they haven't even passed the Wii U yet.

xHeavYx3580d ago

I agree, they've had so many changes, so many "price drops" and other stuff and still they can't surpass the PS4 sales

Gazondaily3580d ago

"And world-wide, they haven't even passed the Wii U yet."

Well lets wait for them to release worldwide first.

But yeah, I will actually be surprised if MS even take first place in the US now. There's simply too much momentum in Sony's favour.

The important thing is that it fights hard and keeps Sony on its toes. That will be a good result for everyone.

bicfitness3580d ago

Serious question, but do you honestly think that Tier 2 countries-- especially given that their marketing team literally was just gutted in Europe--will make any sort of an impact? Are we adding this onto the chalkboard now?

And I thought we were ignoring each other's posts :) Its better that way, since you tend to get all excited. If you can answer civilly, and without degenerating to your usual behavior, then by all means, let's continue this dialog.

Speaking frankly, I find this whole "competition is good", "need MS to keep Sony balanced", line of thinking quite misguided. MS has made a terrible product (technologically) with features and a vision that have been wholly rejected by consumers. Nothing about that vision or product needs to remain. Part of competition, is the culling of the weak and undesirable. And in the future, Sony has tablets and the giants of Google, Apple and Samsung to compete with in the console space, particularly once these mobile devices get more and more powerful and feature laden. You can already see Sony shifting away from the mindset of fixed hardware with PS Now.

LackTrue4K3580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

@ septic

What is up with all this waiting....?!

The same thing was said @ E3!!! "Wait for E3 show"

Now it's....
"Let's wait after E3..."

What are early supporters customers have to do....."wait too?!?"
I want/will get an XboxOne some day just for Gears of War, but instead of me waiting for Xbox/Mirosoft to get on the right track.

"I'm letting them wait on my $$$/my Microsft purchases.....instead of wait on hand for them"

darthv723580d ago

the primary objective of any company that releases a follow-up product is to surpass the sales of the preceding product.

So i would think MS is more focused on trying to meet or exceed the sell through of the 360 before they take on the competition. They have 80+ million to go and all the time they want to take to get there.

What "we" dont know is if there are any deadlines to meet. That is between the shareholders and the company to decide.

for us as gamers, we just want the games. Games that are appealing and fun and worthy of our $$$. If they can deliver that, then the consumer will reciprocate with system sales.

lifeisgamesok3580d ago

When the 1080p, zomg gddr5 hype dies down by next year is when Xbox will make its run with Halo 5, Quantum, and other exclusives

It starts this holiday with the best exclusive lineup

The PS4 has been selling off of promises and PR

disKinected3580d ago

Lol...
Thanks for the laugh, now move along.

chrisarsenalsavart3580d ago (Edited 3580d ago )

@Lifeisgamesok

Butt hurt Reynolds ladies and gentlemen.

ger23963580d ago

If it it doesn't? Then what?

otherZinc3579d ago

@lifeisgamessok,

Exactly!

The PS4 is riding on pure hype. Infamous, Killzone:Shadow Fall, & Knack have all done nothing. Those games have no staying power at all. And Drive Club is doing absolutely nothing that it said it was going to do. So why is the PS4 selling, hype of Power.

Power that isn't on display in any of their games as they do absolutely nothing special:
Killzone: where's the co-op?
Infamous:open world with nothing in it.
Knack:just a pos.

When that hype wears down, Halo Master Chief Collection will be waiting.

MysticStrummer3579d ago

XB1 will never be the lead console, in sales or in terms of development.

PS4 will continue to have more games, it has more award winning devs working on it, and so far people clearly prefer what PS4 is offering over XB1.

DigitalRaptor3579d ago (Edited 3579d ago )

Dear God.

Look at these butthurt fanboys attempting to troll off the back of another loss, despite a small but obvious temporary spike.

These garbage, poorly thought out articles always get these guys out of the woodwork, by providing unfounded and false hope.

PS4 is selling because it has more games from a wider and more diverse array, and it always will.

PS4 is selling more because it is more powerful hardware at a smaller cost.

PS4 is selling more because Sony has had a rock solid product and strategy from the get go. They had fair and pro-consumer policies from the PS3 cycle going into next gen.

They built trust and good will from this and a series of award winning and diverse, risky exclusive games throughout the cycle. And gamers can already see this continuing now, into 2015 and beyond.

They KNEW what the market actually wanted and what they still want, which is precisely why Microsoft has been trying to desperately damage control a crappy, invasive, non-gaming, anti-consumer vision and trying be like Sony for the past few months.

Their services offer much more value across their devices and ecosystem. PS+ simply offers more and may do for a long time.

They are selling more than Xbone because their home consoles always have, and always will.

They are selling more PS4s because they have the stronger global brand, and have the mind share that they had in the early days before the PS3.

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_LarZen_3580d ago

Why should the XBO be the leading console? It's a weaker console with a unclear message to costumers.

Every multiplatform game is looking and performing slightly worse then the PS4. And there is so far not a system seller game on it.

jnemesh3580d ago

I agree with bicfitness and _LarZen_ here. Why are we even still seeing articles like this? It's obvious by now that the WEAKER, LOWER PERFORMANCE hardware with LESS GAMES is failing! A "new direction" won't help for at LEAST a few years...it takes a significant investment in time and money to make new games, and new EXCLUSIVE games are the ONLY thing that could convince most buyers to get an Xbox One over a more powerful, better performing PS4!

Stick a fork in Xbox...they are DONE!

stuna13580d ago

You have to crawl before you walk! Things take time and, there are still some feelings of betrayal present from potential supporter as well as past supporter alike. This whole situation with Microsoft is going to take time, but I do commend Microsoft for realizing mistakes were made, and that they are making an evident and visual effort to try to correct those mistakes.

chrissx3580d ago

Unless m$ somehow learnt how to master the arts of magic,they are in the battle of 2nd / 3rd place this gen

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest6d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN5d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan5d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor4d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic4d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv724d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares6d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv725d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka5d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion5d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer5d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow15d ago (Edited 5d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer5d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar5d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn5d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast5d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning775d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning775d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning775d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast5d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning775d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast5d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv725d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes5d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7210d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle10d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188110d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio10d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning779d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga10d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv729d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19929d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff218310d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga10d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan9d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit9d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus239d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv729d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier9d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan9d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple10110d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos10d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-9d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos10d ago (Edited 10d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic10d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead9d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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