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Gamesradar Attacks Itagaki And His Fanbase

Xboxkings.com: "In a rather shocking publication yesterday, video game journalism hit a new low. Now everyone has/is entitled to their own opinion, but whilst scoring Ninja Gaiden II (GamesRadar gave it a 7/10), the reviewer, who shall remain nameless, proceeded to not only attack Tomonobu Itagaki himself, but also anyone who likes Team Ninja games!" (Ninja Gaiden 2 Sigma, Xbox 360)

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Fishy Fingers  +   2305d ago
xboxkings saying how gameradar hit a new journalism low? LOL, that gives me a lil chuckle.

Pot calling the kettle.....
beast  +   2305d ago
So.. what
7/10 is not that bad..... I guess NGS is still the best next gen , Gaiden game.
HighDefinition  +   2305d ago
@fishy
No Sh!t.

The MART/XGAMER/DC R1D3R is somewhere "RAGING" about the 7/10s.

He probaly stayed up all night getting this done, the funny thing is he was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AGAINST the Sony Protection Group.

Now he has created his own.

Irony.
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Jamie Foxx  +   2305d ago
FANBOY SITES WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDNT THROW STONES
there is alot of bias in the industry but come on 'xboxkings' of all sites complaining about it because of a review they dont like?

NG2 is a game that if you liked the original dont worry about the reviews(only a handful of sites you can trust these days), buy and play for your pleasure problem solved.
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Ghoul  +   2305d ago
that is a perfect example why game journalism is worthless mostly, biased unjournalistic flamebait
Nile  +   2305d ago
So, now it's the war of the magazines?
This is getting silly, GamesRadar now?

They reviewed it how they saw the game. It's quite childish to call out the mag, Xboxkings should grade NG2 9.6 it deserves, and stop.
2cents  +   2305d ago
regardless of everything
I dont wanna read comments like that when Im trying to find out more about a game im interested in.

Being an EXPERT at a gaiden game is reserved for an extremely small club that casual gamers can only hope to join. So, with the evolution of the series I wouldn't expect it to get any easier.

Im positive there are gonna be moments where my blood vessels will explode and i'll twist the controller in two, BUT... it wouldn't be a gaiden game without them.
chaosatom333  +   2305d ago
isn't gameradar, a microsoft owned site?
juuken  +   2305d ago
Wow, why am I NOT surprised...
7/10 isn't a bad score at all. It's better than a 0 or something.
FURIOUS NERDS!111111
BattleAxe  +   2305d ago
I love GamesRadar, so this doesn't bother me. Besides, Itagaki is a self absorbed idiot, and I'm glad to see his game get average ratings.
Doppy  +   2305d ago
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He got clowned.
HateFanboys  +   2305d ago
You know, i liked the first Ninja Gaiden on the Xbox, and thought that it had some of the best graphics on that system, especially when it first came out. But this one just doesnt look good to me. The graphics dont have that impact, that wow factor that the 1st one had when it came out on the Xbox (it barely looks better than the 1st one did to me). And 2.) the game is barely catching my attention this time around. So far the MS exclusives are not impressing me. Although I am interested in Gears 2 and BK (cuz i was into it on the N64)
Time_Is_On_My_Side  +   2305d ago
beast
Even though you think it isn't bad last generation Killzone the average score was 7.5 and every thinks that sucked. I think this because they never use the whole scale a 5.0 should technically still be a buy. When an editor gives a game a 5.0 it's like giving it a 1.0 and anything lower than 5.0 is like a negative.

It's very interesting but if a site has 1-5 scale and got a 4 or 3 it isn't considered bad. A 3 is 5 on a 1-10 scale and a 4 is a 7.5 on a 1-10 scale. In the end it's caused by bad journalism to people start feeding into reviews so heavily. Most times editors complain about suck details on PlayStation 3 exclusive. You'll see comments like "there are too much stuff to do, so it lacks an identity" I swear to god Grand Theft Auto is about verity.
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fusionboxer  +   2304d ago
Whatever
I could care less about what this magazine says over another. Not because i'm mad they gave NG2 a 7/10, but because they really ARE entitled to their own opinion.

If EGM said NG2 is a 9/10 I still wouldn't care. Know why? Because I wasn't excited about NG2 as much as most people in the first place. I don't wanna sound like an ass, but it's truth. I'm just not hyped about it, which means I don't care what anyone says about it.

Anyway if I cared, I'd say good job games radar for not following exclusivity hype and saying the games the best action title to date just because. If the reviewer honestly didn't like it then I'm glad he told us his honest feelings.
resistance100  +   2305d ago
Lol, XbKings just sound like they were pissed off with the 7/10 review.
nanometric  +   2305d ago
No
just DC R1D3R
DC RID3R  +   2305d ago
I'm far from pissed off nano....
but you've gotta agree that reviewing a game on one hand whilst slagging off the creator at the same time is just petty.

Obviously the reviewer is a Sony fan. Fair enough. Maybe a few of Itagaki's comments have pissed him off. Fair enough. Just don't review the game then. If you can't contain your butt-hurt feelings, just don't do it.

Besides, every review you'll read (despite the score) will come to the same conclusion. NGII has the most gore, and is the most brutal, high-octane action game out. Period.

That's a fact and I don't know about you, but those ingredients are exactly what I'm looking for in an action game.
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nanometric  +   2305d ago
True, I agree that if you are pissed at the dev, then don't review their games, cuz guess what, you are going to hate on the game too.
ianp622  +   2305d ago
Lol "Obviously the reviewer is a Sony fan"? Just because someone doesn't like a 360 game that you do, it makes them a Sony fan?

By the way, this reviewer is right, although I'm an obvious Sony fan.
bednet  +   2305d ago
context anyone?
'You like having Tomonobu Itagaki stamp on your ego, rob your of sanity and piss down your throat.'

Taken out of context it might seem that he attacks Itagaki. Even if the terms used are not very professional I think he was referring to the difficulty of the game. Basically saying the game designer intentionally made the game frustrating so that your ego would take a hit as well as your sanity...and then some throat pissing
solidt12  +   2305d ago
Reviews have been very biased lately. I mean HAZE got a 4 from IGN which is very retarted when it is at least 6.8. I say just buy NG2 if you liked NG1 and if you are new to NG and not sure, rent it first and do your own review before buying it.
Imalwaysright  +   2305d ago
Exactly ianp622. I joined N4g 1 year ago and 1 of the things that ive realized is that the ones that truly are fanboys are the 1st ones to call someone that doesnt share their opinion fanboys. Probably because they are fanboys they believe that everyone thinks like them and if someone criticizes their system of choice or its games is automatically a fanboy like they are.....

@ DC RID3R - maybe the reviewer is a Wii fanboy..........
Nathaniel_Drake  +   2305d ago
@2.5
'You like having Tomonobu Itagaki stamp on your ego, rob your of sanity and piss down your throat.'

"Taken out of context it might seem that he attacks Itagaki. Even if the terms used are not very professional I think he was referring to the difficulty of the game. Basically saying the game designer intentionally made the game frustrating so that your ego would take a hit as well as your sanity...and then some throat pissing"

Yeah that's what I though when I read that statement as well
juuken  +   2305d ago
They're taking that out of context. I think the guy just meant that the game is PISS HARD. I mean, he isn't exactly wrong. NG games are very hard if you don't know what the hell you're doing.
predator  +   2305d ago
well reading his comments im on the side of xboxkings here "Tomonobu Itagaki stamp on your ego, rob your of sanity and piss down your throat."

what sort of journalism is that
resistance100  +   2305d ago
Thats just xboxKings taking things out of there orginal meaning.

All this is a metaphor to describe, how much fans of the series worship him.
Mc Fadge  +   2305d ago
Methinks
It's an extreme metaphor about how people enjoy the difficulty of the games, simply because they're difficult and punishing. That being said, it is a very crude metaphor.
predator  +   2305d ago
could be what you guys said but its a risky move
Superfragilistic  +   2305d ago
Xboxkings is a joke even if they were raising a valid question I can't take them seriously.

I read the GamesRadar review yesterday and at the time was very surprised that two out of the three pages was dedicated to complaining about the difficulty and the most sadistic of developers, Itagaki.

The fact they gave it 7/10 doesn't bother me, it's a review and that means it's subjective.

And given the fact I adore the NG franchise I'm sure my own personal review will more likely be a very subjective 9/10.

Can't wait. :)
Glad to be a gamer  +   2305d ago
well having read ign/cvg's reviews (only ones i trust after the gamespot kane and lynch/firing incident)
i agree with them entirely on there scores and why they came to them. Cvg stated

"A mixed bag of awesome combat, average visuals and insane difficulty. Ninja Gaiden II is everything we expected but nothing more."

Uppers
Near-perfect combat
Massive boss battles
Lashings of blood and gore

Downers
Horrible camera (still!)
Occasional slowdown
Mid-combat loading
Too similar to the original

They gave it an 8 out of 10 and looking at the downers i can understand why. But the fact remains like GTA4 had a few technical issues as did Mass effect this game although not revolutionary and the camera is the same as its predecessor will be one of the best in the slash em up genre.

Games radars reviewer that gave it 7 out of 10 just comes across as someone that could not handle the difficulty and skill required to play ninja gaiden 2 got really pissed off and then proceeded to write his review.

If he wanted people to take hime seriously and as a credible source for reviews he should of written it up in a far less crude/obvious way. But im guessing he wrote it in the heat of the moment when anger/frustration had taken over from common sense/proffessionalism.

Wanted to commnet on some of the reviews before ths but had a look at the first 10 comments realised it was full of PS3 fans with alterior motivies and thought better of it. :) Hate it or love it i Guess that what you should come to expect from the people that Troll N4G. Love a heated debate/disscusion over a games reviews but thats not what the comments posted were steering towards. oh well.
ukilnme  +   2305d ago
@ Glad to be a gamer

Couldn't have said it better myself.
Superfragilistic  +   2305d ago
@Glad
I agree mate. I felt that both IGN and CVG justified there scores effectively. As for GamesRadar, well the reviewer just seems to have trouble with accepting such a hardcore game rather than justifying the 7/10.
Glad to be a gamer  +   2305d ago
Great to see some other like minded gamers on N4G.
i am not alone :)
Fallen_Angel  +   2305d ago
I'm going to have to agree. Not that I ever put much faith in gameradar before but after printing a review like that. That is so completely unprofessional it hard to take anything they ever say again as anything more then a joke. Seriosly do they not have an editor ? or did he just not read the review ? personally I think they should fire the guy that wrote that and issue an apology to their readers. I dont any huge fan of the game and i dont care that it got a 7/10. However that fact that I read the review means I have an interest in the game and the comments made are very insulting to the readers.
Jinxstar  +   2305d ago
Look has anyone read old interviews with Itagaki. He has always ragged on his fan base calling them pansies. Hence the whole "Ninja Dog" thing in his games. "Or should I say 'Young Ninja' Ryu Hayabusa" Itagaki has always had a huge head about himself and his games. The reason they are so difficult is that he thinks nobody is worthy of beating his games. How many people have beaten NG Black here? Without going Ninja Dog or even on hard? I have beaten it without going ninja Dog.... A lot of people have been saying for years this guy is a little off his rocker with how he insults his fan base and gamers in general Predator.

Here is a few examples of his attitude. Maybe this will explain why the journalist wrote what he did. Not excuse it but explain.

http://www.joystiq.com/2008...

http://www.joystiq.com/2005...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

And from one of my favorite sites. sirlin.net

Now consider the stark contrast with Ninja Gaiden. This game wants you to die repeatedly. One friend said, "It's basically a single-player fighting game where you are forced to fight intermediate-level opponents, even though you are a beginner." Even that is pretty kind, since I have still never beaten this game. Fans of this game seem to enjoy the concept of "I died at the boss, now I have to do a huge portion of the level over again." That gameplay model, to me, seems like it's from the 1980s. Itagaki, creator of the game, loves to talk down to players who can't handle his game. He released online expansions to Ninja Gaiden called "hurricane packs" where he made his ludicrously hard game even harder and harder and harder. He was pushing the limits of "impossible." He then collected these hurricane packs together into a title called Ninja Gaiden Black. When asked if he would put in an option to make the game easier, he said something like "I do not think we should, but some people think that everything in life should be handed to them. They are like dogs. That is why I have put in a new mode called 'Ninja Gaiden Dog mode' just for them." Itagaki has lost all connection to reality and has now directly insulted his players.

Itagaki is extremely full of himself and insults his fanbase on a regular basis. I hate the guy but love the games...
Fallen_Angel  +   2305d ago
@Jinxstar I beat the 1st NG game fairly easily. So I dont see a problem with making the game harder. As for the rest of your post I dont see how this relates to the article at all. Its about gameradar not about Itagaki. Are you some how trying to say or trying to justice that 2 wrongs make a right ?
Jinxstar  +   2305d ago
OoOoO good call on your part. Like I said it may explain his actions but does not excuse them. Is journalism ever fair? First off why would games radar write that? Why would any game website do something like that? That is an easy answer. Traffic. It's a tried and true tactic that works and causes hits. Do I think its right? No. As a gamer I, like many others on this site, am under the guise that this is a hardcore review. Is there justice in it? No. I think it's pety. Do I think the author maybe has a grudge against Itagaki? Hell yeah. Is it deserved? Probably. Do I think it's 2 wrongs = a right? Heck no man. Thats just plain dumb. I can understand where he comes from. He is probably not a fan of the designer. Itagaki has a huge head and maybe said something to his face at a convention that made him mad. Do I know? Nope. Do I judge his opinions? Not really they are his own. Does this hold weight? Yeah because a lot of people who are not as hardcore will see this and go "wow". Is that fair? well thats a 2 way street. Is Itagaki insulting 1000's of fans without their knowledge fair?

Here is the thing that I don't like. NG is a series for dedicated/ hardcore players that can take a beating and die and replay half a damn level to die again and again... NG is not and has never been for the faint of heart. I like this but with the way the game is going and the publicity it is getting it's becoming more mainstream. Which is the opposite of what Team Ninja and Itagaki represent. In essence insulting a community that have no idea. i.e. someone who works in a restaurant and spitting in your food just to watch you enjoy it. I think that outweighs anything any reviewer can say. I am getting NG2 fully knowing who and what I am supporting and how I am going to beat it because I can take that beating. The way I see it though may not be 100% right either but it is an opinion like everything else.

If the game is dumbed down for the masses I will be very upset which from what I have seen seems to be the case... If it is not toned down many people will be upset they "can't beat it easy" boo hoo. Which is Itagaki's take as well although he goes over the top calling his fans "dog's" among many other things.

So I guess to answer your question I don't support anything. I don't think it's wrong or right but is giving someone a taste of their own medicine that bad? I don't think so cause you know by now Itagaki has seen it and probably has flames pouring from his ears in hate. Which I find amusing. Most likely he deserves that at the very least.

Still though for me it's all about the games and nothing else. So long as I enjoy it (No reviews of this game will be able to tell me that and I know that) I will be happy but sticking it to the man can be fun too. Is it so unprofessional to write what he has written in his review or is it more unprofessional to treat people the way Itagaki has? you decide.

So game on brother =D

Edited for grammar.

Edit 2: Does this relate to the review? Yeah I think it gives reasoning behind why certain things are done. hence why I wrote it. Predator seemed to think it was uncalled for but in retrospect Itagaki has done a vast number of things that were way uncalled for. Is it right? I don't think so but who am I to judge.
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Glad to be a gamer  +   2304d ago
Regardless of what Itagaki has said or done a review should be based solely on the game not the Dev or anything else.
Not saying that itagaki's comments are wrong or right. I personally think of it as a bit of fighting talk to rile up the hardcore and to push them to try to finish his games on the harder difficulties.

Theres a certain sweet satisfaction in finishing a game that you know others would struggle with and you have had to sweat over.

I personally like a challenge.
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Jinxstar  +   2304d ago
Totally agree Glad. Still though I feel it can be done without insult. Smack talk is the way of the gamer though. Rock and hard place. Who is to say the reviewer isn't doing something similar to Itagaki. He doesn't much care for the game or Team Ninja or Itagaki so why not say "Hey if your gonna make a game and insult a fan base at least make a decent one douche" I'm not saying it's a bad game. I am not even saying the reviewer is saying that but hey it's a chord. It's been struck and I would expect an apology in a day or 2 if not already for sure... I am looking forward to it myself but we will see. I don't condone what the reviewer wrote but at the same time if smack talk is part of being a gamer I don't see whats all that bad and why people are acting better then him. have they never called someone a newb? or teabagged someone in an FPS? Doubt it. Too many people on this site and others act like they are above the "juveniles" or whatever on PSN or XBL or whatever. So whats wrong with it being in our community? I dunno there are too many questions for me to go through and it's really not worth the effort. I just feel it's being made into a big deal and people are defending a douche and what has yet to be seen by reviews as an average game. People treating it like it's the second coming of Christ when they probably never even played the first game until it can to XBL. Gears is the important one far as I can see for MS... So in the end being a gamer means trash talk and underhandedness. There is nothing wrong with taking every advantage you can get. Thats called using your environment and being better then your opponent. If they call you a "camper" or whatever. It's only them that fails as can be seen by a look at their KDR or whatever.
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Fallen_Angel  +   2304d ago
@Jinxstar ok I can kind of see your point now. Personal I never really paid much attention to what the guy has to say. Also I kind of let a lot of what devs and pr people say pass a bit. Look at all 3 systems PR and they have all said some really dumb things this gen. They say stupid c0cky things about their system and even dumber things about the other systems. Thing is thats pretty much there job and its what they are paid to do. Same with devs does Itagaki take it to far ? Probably if everything you said is true then he's an ass. Other thing is they are almost always talking in an interview and I'm sure that almost all of them have said something and some point that they wish they could take back.

However I think gaming sites should be more professional. 1st off what they said was in a review and secondly not only were their insults aimed at Itagaki but they were aimed at the people that play his games (aka their readers). That review should of been review before it was printed by an editor of some kind and it should of been rejected. Unlike an interview this can and should of been edited also it is not one person talking its a whole group of them. Yes it was a single person that wrote it but we have to assumed that it was read and approved by others. I think it a question of professionalize and that’s something that game radar obviously doesn’t have
Jinxstar  +   2304d ago
Well professionalism and professional courtesy are very different. I think what you want is the latter mostly... The article is written professionally. It is well edited and brings forth the point he wants. Is it nice? Not really. But when you are getting your butt kicked in COD or UT or TF is it "Nice"... and when you are doing the kicking are you "nice" about it. do you let someones dumb mistake go? Heck no. Then you tea bag them for it.... Thats gaming man. It's not a "friendly" environment in games like FPS's and NG. Those among others are very unforgiving. LBP is a "nice" community. the Wii is a "nice" Community. nothing wrong with that it's just how it is.

Honestly I think this has nothing to do with PR really. It's a guy who wrote what he feels. "If you are a rabid fan of a guy who insults you then go ahead and get the game. A game that I(Reviewer) thinks is mediocre". That is what I read. may not be an exact quote but yeah.

So all in all I don't mind much that this guy is going off and speaking his mind. I would much rather have that then a cut and paste article. At least we know he wasn't bought. Maybe thats why he took a jab cause someone tried to buy his review. Never know. I prefer the honesty and if anyone decides to buy or not to buy this game off one review they are the ones who fail for not looking at other sources and I don't pity them in the least...

@ Glad I was also thinking of something. Difficulty is good in games when done right but how do you look at the shoddy camera angles that have been in the past NG's and seem to be present in this one? It will make it harder... Is that good though? I don't mind it myself but many will frown at it. Just because something makes it harder doesn't mean its good.... I mean you could put in a random number cruncher to see how hard you hit on luck but that lacks skill as does the camera issues... So in the end is it really hard because of the game or because of tech issues and how do you see that?

Edit: @ whoever. I really don't care much I am just kind of being a devils advocate. I am getting the game no matter what reviews say and I think Itagaki is a jerk and always have. Feel free to make up your own mind just as the reviewer has. I know I will. Who cares what others think so much as long as you enjoy what you play.

BTW Fallen and Glad. I was not the one who disagreed with you. I feel your entitled to your opinion. just thought you should know. Neither of you are wrong it's all opinion.

Game on. Thats what counts
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Glad to be a gamer  +   2304d ago
Yep i agree with u fallen but also agree with some of the points you raised Jinxstar.
As you said everyones entitled to an opinion wheter you agree or disagree.

Needless to say from the videos ive sen of this game im gonna have to pick this up along with Grid.

The combat just looks to good to miss. May play though ngb first though to get my self mentally ready for the pain lol.

I am kind of daunted by this game and excitied all at the same time. Probably will have to get it first day as im already salivating over this one.
devilhunterx  +   2305d ago
I am going to save gamesradar in my bookmarks now (and done).
mrlokievil  +   2305d ago
Xboxkings calling someone else a fanboy makes me laugh. I didn't read the review and even I got what the reviewer meant by the quote. All it was doing was talking about how hard the game is. Itagaki himself insulted ninja gaiden players by calling the easy mode ninja dog mode.
BeaArthur  +   2305d ago
It seems that the comment was taken out of context, there's a real surprise.
Angelitos  +   2305d ago
I like him if he uses the true power of the PS3, thats it.
jesuisankit  +   2305d ago
wht was stated in the review was sad.. the game deserves a 7 according to him its ok.. but there is no need to make such statements.. its not abut another biased site bringing up the issue.. it jus that wht was said in that part of the review was wrong.
bootsielon  +   2305d ago
And?
I completely agree with games radar. If Lair, Killzone 1 and Haze can be judged based on hype, so can any other non-sony game (Haze is not even a Sony exclusive anyway). Not saying that Lair, Haze or Killzone were good, just that some press outlets judged it according to how they expected the games to be, and not how good they are.

Gamesradar actually was benevolent, considering Itagaki says every other game except his sucks, except after the last generation and this one, Team Ninja has failed to revolutionize any genre. Dead or Alive sucks, and Ninja Gaiden came out a long time after Devil May Cry only to be stomped by God of War.

Why attack the fanbase? Because the fanbase are Xbox fanboys that say that like Team Ninja games when in fact they never played the competing games on PS2 or Gamecube or PS3. Harsh? Yes, but it is his opinon.
Meus Renaissance  +   2305d ago
Admin has banned any articles from XboxKings and the SDF websites. One PM to the Admin will get this removed but having on here just damages such stupid websites anyway, so whatever.
nn  +   2305d ago
funny that you say that...
look who approved the story
Meus Renaissance  +   2305d ago
He ain't the highest placed Admin whom I talk with sometimes about the site.
mcgrawgamer  +   2305d ago
you guys or so blinded by fanboyism it's not even funny
it's not a matter of whether he liked the game or not, fact of the matter is he doesn't like itagaki as a person or anybody else who like itagaki. It's not a metaphor it doesn't have any underlying meaning. I'm not gonna call him a fanboy cuz I know dudes in the gaming press don't like certain devs or certain types of games or certain consoles, but to write up that article in that manner was unprofessional to say the least.
SickNote  +   2305d ago
Nothing to see here.
That tiny little website needs to get a life and not jump on the back of another's...
PeeJee at Xboxkings  +   2305d ago
Tiny + Tiny = Big
gheghe... The tiny site everybody is talking about at the moment? Thanx man.

And where just discussing facts on PS3 and Xbox360.
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titntin  +   2305d ago
Why is this fanboy whinging on here exactly?

Whilst the out of context statement quoted is a little strong, theres certainly no news here, and all thats on display is how much fan boys weep if anyone dares to criticise a game they pinned such hopes on. Its all quite pathetic.

Irrespective of good/ or bad reviews, I like Ninja Gaiden games and will get and enjoy this one. It's not a AAA title, and not a game to set te world alight, but who cares? Its gonna have plenty of fans, including me, who will enjoy playing it, so whats the problem? The 360 has had more than its fair share of glowing reviews for games which I feel didn't deserve 10's, no point in making a meal of a game thats probably averaging 8.5's - its still a fine title, but no one is Sony fan for saying otheiwse.
Mike134nl  +   2305d ago
so how any ninja gaiden 2 articles have been posted just go buy the game or not stop fretting
Skerj  +   2305d ago
Yet I remember Gamespot's review for Ratchet and we were all supposedly blowing it out of proportion. So just do like the Ratchet fans were told about Gamespot and just stay away from Gamesradar. Chances are your mind was made up about the game well before reading this review anyway. If not, then rent it and see if they were correct.
Condoleezza Rice  +   2305d ago
Fully agreed ^
I didn't even bother clicking the link to Xboxkings,I know all that awaits is an article full of whining and false assumptions.

They can either accept the 7 and move on,or spend their time whining Online.Looks like they chose the latter.
2cents  +   2305d ago
Wait a minute... ^ ^ ^ last bubble so i'll use it well
you write a comment based on an article... "I didn't even bother clicking " ???

What are you... a shaman? mind reader? stupid?

The article has nothing to do with 7/10, it has to do with video game journalism. Leave your assumptions at the door and please comment on your opinions of the article itself.
It is comments like this that bring down the tone of this site, as everyone and their dog joins the bandwagon with worthless print.
Shame on you.
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ukilnme  +   2305d ago
@ 2cents

That covers my 2 cents too.
Fallen_Angel  +   2305d ago
2cents well said
Condoleezza Rice  +   2304d ago
@2Cents
I didn't need to click the link to know what awaits,I've read the Gamesradar review,read the description here,and know what to expect from xboxkings.The title alone confirmed what I expected:Another article full of crying and inaccuracies from xboxkings.

So with that said,my decision to not read an article full of whining from a website that has yet to produce a single article that isn't laughable,is my decision.Sorry if it upsets you,but that's the way it is and will remain.
JasonPC360PS3Wii  +   2305d ago
Any review site (all of them) that accept ads from the games and hardware they review, should not be trusted to give a fair review. PSM and OXM are the acception becasue they hide nothing, and are open to who pays the bills. Ad sites/mags can be bought way to easily by those same hardware or software developers they review. This is why we need sites like gameranking because we can take all the BS lows and highs and get somewhat of a good review with just a number or ranking. If you're looking for details of a game, read at least 5 reviews from different sources before you buy, or give it a rent.
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LenHart  +   2305d ago
everyone please reprt the story
It is from XBOXKINGS

written by MART and DCRIDER

cant beleive that stories from xboxkings even get posted here.

please everyone report the story
Bleucrunch  +   2305d ago
why does every care about this ratings....its pretty shallow if you ask me, you should just buy the game because you like and want to play it.
t-0_ot-  +   2305d ago
@streeks1984
Simple. People like reviews because it allows them to say "Hey, look at this game.. it has better ratings than your game!" Not because it allows them to get a gist of the game, and make their opinions from what the sites say.

Ratings(nowadays) are simply for fanboys to use to bash another game or console.. or both.
The gaming GOD  +   2305d ago
While it's not right to attack others....
At the same time, Itagaki asked for it.

He is always trash talking his peers like The DMC creator, the Tekken creator, Virtua Fighter creator, etc.

So I don't have any sympathy for him
2cents  +   2305d ago
Agreed with you, but...
When your in the moment.
Controller in hand, thumbs twitching and breath held at the opening scenes, none of this matters.

Its all about the GAME.

As long as it quenches our thirsts for blood, butchery and katanas, Im happy.

:)
SL1M DADDY  +   2305d ago
It's a review...
In other words, it's just another pile of poo. Rent the games folks and leave the reviews to idiot fanboys that have nothing better to do that banter back and forth about number scores.
tplarkin7  +   2305d ago
Good point.
Reviewers have been irresponsible and unprofessional since the beginning. They think that they can say whatever they want, and be right.
avacadosnorkel  +   2305d ago
just goes to show
if you decide to criticize the 360 online you better be wearing riot gear.

If you don't want any trouble attack HAZE and the PS3.
poopface1  +   2305d ago
I dont see it as attacking the 360
more or less this guy hates itagaki and cant handle the difficulty. I thought that part of the review was worse than some things people on this site say. Not that im offended, I just really question if this whiner realy finished the game.
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2cents  +   2305d ago
Great article to sort the gamers from the fanboys
just read these comments.
Im glad im not the only one who feels the language used in that review was disgusting.

Im all for fair criticism. Im genuinely shocked to find out there are camera and framerate issues, and if I was a fanboy this would be all the ammo Id need to flame. But I, (as others are too it seems) am waiting for the game to release and see if there is a patch in the works before I pass final judgment.

Its all to easy to go with the crowd, instead of making your own decisions and conclusions, and its clear there are a hell of a lot of lemmings on this site.

Oh and difficulty has always been the heart of all gaiden games.
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Dareaver1  +   2305d ago
totally agree....
Ninja Gaiden has always had a bad camera, that's one of the hardest things to get right in a 3-d action game, especially one as fast paced as this one. Then there is the framerate issues, that has yet to be seen. I have played many games that had suffered from the occasional framerate hiccup. But as long as it doesn't slow down the game to an unplayable level, i don't get what the fuss is about.

There is so much going in the screen at once, you know, limbs flying, enemy attacks, real time shadows, scenery, and etc. I'm just happy for all the gore. I always wanted to play a ninja game that lets me hack my foes to pieces.

The funny thing is more than half the people complaining don't plan on buying the game and/or have/like the console it is on. All they are doing is trying to throw dirt on this game, and ruin it for everyone else who is stoked about it. Really taints the whole N4G experience when you want to talk realistically about the game and your assessments of how it's going to be...
ukilnme  +   2305d ago
I agree with both of you. The true gamers will look past all of this crap and do what we do best. These clowns can't and won't spoil this game for me.
Dareaver1  +   2305d ago
@ ukilnme....
did you see the screenshot when he bashed off one of the ninjas arms, that was awesome. I like the context sensitive hack and slashing. Bladed weapons = clean cuts, blunt weapons = messy and garbled flesh. This game is going to be awesome.

The developer has always talked trash on others, what's new. But that's kinda why i like him. He is kinda like an anti-hero; in being that he has made one of my most favorite franchises (from the arcade to consoles). And i'm sorry but i loved DOA, for that same reason. Fluidity, the game flowed so well and seamlessly. I hated playing some games, when you did a grapple move, you would see them attempt to grapple threw the opponents body, then they would go into the series of animations to complete the move. I did not like that about some games. I loved DOA's counters, which kinda lead to it's issues. If you play someone good, it would be a counter battle fight. But you couldn't find a more fluid fighting game.

Soul Caliber and DOA, in my opinion, where the most fluid fighters i have ever played.
Imalwaysright  +   2305d ago
A patch might be the solution to solve the technical issues but and the people that dont have internet connection??? And i dont mean just this game. The freezing issues on GTA, the 360 version of Bully, PS3 version of the Orange Box, Lair,.... Developers this generation are relying to much on the patch and are screwing the people that payed to play their games that supposedly should be finished................
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2cents  +   2305d ago
Damn...
that skipped my mind u know.

Good point!!!

lol, like ur name suggests, u got it right. :)

Lookin at it from the other side, games were being released buggy as hell a long time before the internet went mainstream. But now developers have means to update and fix bugs post launch which is a step in the right direction.

The most important concern is that developers dont use this as an excuse to be lazy. This will only hurt them in the long run though as MOST of us gamers arnt stupid and we wont keep supporting repeat-offending developers.
CViper  +   2305d ago
The Mart and Bloodmask use Xboxkings to get comments/ideas through to N4G that they cant usually do through
the comment section, or the forum.

Its sad that everyone keeps approving their content, even though it may be level headed today. THe rest of the content on their site is completely malicious and very very deep in the fanboy wars.
Dareaver1  +   2305d ago
Then why come in this post talking about what happened "yesterday?"
Does that make sense to you? You come here bashing the site, but stating that it's level headed today. Well let go of the past. Maybe this could be a sign of change, i don't know, but you make no sense. Please, we don't need to hear about other stuff. Speak on what's the issue at hand. Either contribute or ignore it. If the site is garbage to you, then why read anything linked to it. Just ignore it.
CViper  +   2305d ago
Because they have a "Bash the PS3" Banner of discussion still on their site.
As well as recycling articles and trying to get them approved after they have failed over and over on this site.

Wake me up when any of that changes.

Dont try to pretend that this site is anything but biased. They have their feelings hurt because of a harsh review. Welcome to the club Xboxkings. Perhaps people will start to devalue reviews and take them for face value. Instead of all games under 8 = 'flop lol lol omg omg'
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Dareaver1  +   2304d ago
So, it's all about payback....
by the way, why do you care what they say about Sony and the PS3. The site is called XBoxKingz, the title kinda says it all. I'm not excusing their behavior, because if that is what routinely goes on then it's rather childish, but you can be the bigger person and just let it roll off your back. Behaving this way shows no growth in you or that you are being the better person.

By coming in here, and using that as your agenda; you my friend are therefore promoting the fanboy war.?.
EnforcerOfTheTruth  +   2305d ago
Good job, give this transsexual what he deserves hehe
Kraken  +   2305d ago
Yeah
Now we're talking.
jkhan  +   2305d ago
I think the guy was trying to be sarcastic. Plus I did read the review & the guy was focusing a little too much on the negative aspects and tell how tough and unfair the game is and how bad the camera system is. Ninja Gaiden games were always tough. This is a bit more accessible but still is meant for the hardcore community & I think this game should have been reviewed by a hardcore gamer who can actually appreciate what Ninja Gaiden2 is trying to achieve. I mean you make a PC FPS player do a review of console FPS and he has never played it on a console controller what would you expect from him.
ukilnme  +   2305d ago
I don't agree with the sarcastic part but the rest is on point.
Zun  +   2305d ago
7/10? I suppose that's why they were promoting the game with scantily clad korean girls?

xoboxkings = fanboy crap
truncheon  +   2305d ago
Perspective pls
The reveiwer has to write for the whole internet, not just the hardcore or the fanboys. The article does a good job of describing the game and how it plays and that the style of gameplay is not for everyone.
Rhezin  +   2305d ago
i'D LIKE TO SEE HIM
attack me, I'd f!cking brain that idiot, and put that retard out of his misery.
LJWooly  +   2305d ago
Maybe you should calm down. I'm sure you're really not that sensitive.
Kyur4ThePain  +   2305d ago
Adrift
Wait, let me try and understand this.
The complaints from xboxkings centers around the piece they quoted, namely the whole ego / sanity / throat piece.
Is that correct?
LJWooly  +   2305d ago
Yes, and not just that, but it was more or less taken out of context.

Xboxkings is just such a laughable excuse for a gaming site, to the point where the source alone makes this whole story one big, pathetic joke.
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CertifiedGamer  +   2305d ago
its funny a fanboy website getting mad because NG2 got that review
Fanboy should not be talking because that game didn't get the review they wanted that is life everyone has there own opinion and what the reviewer said was very true ninja gaiden 2 aint a big leap from part 1 like Metal gear 4 was from part 3.
This game is trully what I like to call an Xbox 1.5 game
thenickel  +   2305d ago
I'm really confused with all of the MGS is a leap and NG2 isn't talk I keep hearing. Please explain to me what the big difference will be because it looks like the older versions to me with nothing more then better graphics, a different story, and some tweaks. Sure it will be great just like NG2 will but really what makes this game so different from it's predecessors?
ukilnme  +   2305d ago
@ thenickel

"Sure it will be great just like NG2 will but really what makes this game so different from it's predecessors?"

It's a PS3 exclusive. I'm buying it anyway.
Pain  +   2305d ago
lame. slow News Day?
M$ Flackys Attack Sony everyday Any different?
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LJWooly  +   2305d ago
Just look at the source... I think that alone says enough about the state of gaming journalism today than the entire article does.
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