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Losing Control: DualShock 4 Vs. XBox One Vs. Steam Controller

It’s hard to beat a good old-fashioned argument fuelled by fanboyism and healthy dose of purchase justification. That said, the DualShock 4 is hands-down the best controller on the market right now. Just kidding… (Or am I?).

So, which controller is best? These innocuous black gizmos are our very means of connecting with our games. It’s difficult to overstate the importance of getting them right. With many hours of now current-gen console controller use under our belts, let’s compare the two obvious ones and see if they could be usurped by the up-and-coming Steam Controller.

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Mister_Dawg4214d ago

Forget controllers dude.

All I need to know is where they are.

UltimateMaster4213d ago

Isn't the Wii U also a console?

mhunterjr4214d ago

If you have me a ds3 and a 360 controller, I'd go 360 every time. It's not so easy to choose this time.

I hated the bumpers on the xb1 controller, initially. It took me a while to figure out I'm supposed to bump them with my knuckles instead of pressing them like buttons. It's all good now, but it was jarring at first.

I pretty much hated the ds3, because I felt like the joystick locations weren't ideal for the games I like to play. I really don't know what Sony did, but the ds4 feels great immediately.

I don't know what to think about the steam controllers, but it's intriguing. Chances are the device will end up being compatible with whatever controller you want.

TheUltimateGamer4214d ago

I had a very similar experience with the XB1 controller. When I first picked it up I didn't like the bumpers at all.. Now that I've adapted to the "knuckle bump" I freaking love it! Its an absurdly comfortable controller.

Like you, I hated the DS3.. I'm still not sold on the whole touch pad of the DS4 but I absolutely think the overall feel of the controller is vastly improved.

cesuf4214d ago

Seems like a lot of welcome changes, but one change that irks me is the 6-7 battery life of the ds4.

rowdyBOY4214d ago

no way , ps4 controller has improved the most but as long as the analog sticks are positioned on the same horizontal , xbone will always be preferred for me .

i tried playing a streetfighter type game with d-pad and i was doing a hadouken and always hitting the analogue .
the positioning is not right .

xbone got the positioning perfect for all types of games .

xbone 10/10
ps4 8/10
steam ????? dont know yet

MASTER_RAIDEN4214d ago

ive been playing all types of fighting games for years on the DS3 and have never had that problem.

I_am_Batman4214d ago

"i tried playing a streetfighter type game with d-pad and i was doing a hadouken and always hitting the analogue .
the positioning is not right ."

Does that happen with the DS4 or DS3? While I can only speak for the DS3 this has never happened to me in 300+ hours of SFIV. It doesn't look like the DS4 has less room between the D-Pad and the analog stick though I can't test it out cause I haven't got a PS4 yet.

ShowGun9014214d ago

call me a "skeptic" but i think the trackpads on the steam controller are going to suck hard. think about the agruments we've heard for the past 8 years about alternative controls for games...

"touchscreens are just as good as buttons and joysticks!"
"waving wii-motes is just as good..."
"waving nothing at all is just as good..."

so far, NOTHING has been as good as old fashioned tactile feedback with joysticks and buttons, and i don't think the haptics they put in the steam controller will change that.

prove me wrong, valve : )

TheUltimateGamer4214d ago

I'm really intrigued to get my hands on it... but I can't imagine it being as good as they promise. I guess we'll see.

Rivitur4214d ago

The joysticks response times are actually pretty bad as I notice while playing some shooter on 360. Also the constant over aiming on games without aim assistance really shows how bad joysticks really are. So I'm optimistic on the steam controller.

mhunterjr4214d ago

I wouldn't sell the track pads so short. Surely they won't be great for every game ( I imagine they would be horrible for a platformer or 3rd person action). But I think they could have potential for FPS or RTS games.... And the best thing about Steam machines is the are customizable, I see no reason why you wouldn't eventually be able to use a ds4, or xb1 controller with it, if you see fit.

cesuf4214d ago

As much player testing as steam has done for their new controllers (as well as player reviews on you tube), I don't see anyone saying they are horrible or bad.

They may not be your cup of tea personal preference, but no way will they be below average or bad. Id say it will come down to if they are either good or great.

MasterCornholio4214d ago

I dont like the way the steam controller looks either but luckily you can still use console controllers with steam OS.

Volkama4214d ago

I was inclined to think the same thing, but there is a pretty significant ray of light: Valve themselves said that trackpads as we know them are terrible and not fit for a controller.

They have put a lot of research in, and they believe their haptic feedback transforms the touchpad into something brilliant.

I'm still skeptical, but I certainly want to try it.

It's also the only part of this comparison article that I was interested in. Oh well.

ShowGun9014211d ago

the best thing valve can do is set up displays that let people like us TRY the controller... that is, if its good! if its bad, it'd be better to just let people buy it blind LOL!

also, the thing about the controller is that, like the DS4 or xbone controller, it will work with EVERY game on the steam machine... adding a DS4 or xbone or 360 controller dosen't make it universally compatible with steam games, this one will be. so wether it sucks or not really matters to me because it will weigh in pretty heavily on whether i'd buy one or not.

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89 million Steam account details allegedly leaked, but no one seems to know how

A LinkedIn post from Underdark AI made the discovery, stating that datasets are being sold for over $5,000 on a known black market forum.

Cockney47d ago

Biggest hack in gaming history if true

Christopher47d ago

No personal details, mostly account names, no passwords. Likely would need other account leaks to hope that someone reuses a password with a similar account name on another already leaked service. While a lot of users, the data is useless. Kind of notably by the $5k request for the data.

FinalFantasyFanatic45d ago

Plus, if you have 2FA enabled, then you were at zero risk anyway, from what I've read, Steam isn't even recommending password changes as it's apparently unnecessary.

VariantAEC41d ago

@Christopher
Where are you getting that from?
The linked article above says, "The seller claims this is a “fresh” leak and says it includes usernames, passwords, two-factor SMS logs, message contents, metadata, delivery status, and other sensitive details." Which sure sounds like they might have a lot of other information. If this leak is legitimate I better stop hearing people falsely say PSN is the worst secured digital storefront (even though that hasn't been true for a very long time with far larger data breaches since 2011 all over the world including the Equifax breach which was several times larger).

VariantAEC41d ago

@FinalFantasyFanatic
That seems true only if you use Steam Guard. If you opted for T2A via SMS the article suggests it's time to make the switch to Steam Guard and of course change your password.

Christopher41d ago (Edited 41d ago )

From the credit URL: https://x.com/MellowOnline1...

The article doesn't do a good job of going into the updated detail, they just mention part of it.

Just because the seller claims something, doesn't make it true. If it truly contained that data, it would be worth way more than just $5k. SMS systems don't rely on getting passwords for accounts they're sending an SMS to, just the username, phone number, and timestamp info.

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Profchaos46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

You don't remember the psn hack I take it

Cockney45d ago

I do remember it being 77 million, thats why I made my comment

BlueDaBaDee46d ago

Update:
"Valve has now confirmed that “this was NOT a breach of Steam systems” and users do not need to change their passwords as a result. However, it continues to recommend that you set up the Steam Mobile authenticator for extra security."

https://store.steampowered....

Fishy Fingers46d ago

Shame. I liked the idea someone paid 5 grand just for my silly steam name.

DivineHand12546d ago

The government needs a taskforce with serious fundung that can opporate across borders to go after cyber criminals.

It is getting out of hand and it is the regular citizens of the world that suffer the consequences of these hacks and breaches.

My fear is that if left unchecked, state sponsored hackers from corrupt or governents under sections may use this as a method of raising revenue at the expense of everyone else.

Fishy Fingers46d ago

Bro teeing up a Mission Impossible movie.

ZeekQuattro46d ago

Not in this administration. If anything hes been dissolving existing task forces meant to protect consumers.

Amplitude46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

Why? They’d just use the funding to funnel hundred of millions of dollars into fake NGOs that then funnel it into democrat pockets while doing zero cyber criminal defence work.

Then if anybody tried to defund them it’d be a whole thing with the mainstream media claiming that there will be endless cyber attacks. NGOs would then fund protest groups to attack anybody that supports defunding the government’s cyber attack defence branch and then it would turn out it was also being used to stabilize or destabilize governments in other countries and overthrow elections to benefit America. Which is fine until they start using it on us again.

Let’s just not. Private companies who know what they’re doing (Valve) can deal with it

RIP USAID. God bless

Profchaos46d ago (Edited 46d ago )

It's not a may use this not we know state sponsored attacks do this already.

It's a global problem you couldn't have one government playing world police it would require joint collaboration with foreign governments and the problem is many laws have not kept pace with advancement of technology.

even then it's hard to say with certainty if an attack was a state sponsored attacks or a cybercriminal group operating outside of governments

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pwnmaster300046d ago

remember when certain groups were saying PC gamers don’t want other subscriptions because it was not safe and steam was the spot lol.

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badz14946d ago

it's time to riot, right, pc gamers??

pwnmaster300046d ago

Be careful, PC gamers are the most touchy out of the gamers lol

staticall46d ago

@badz149
@pwnmaster3000
Have you guys actually read what was «leaked»? It was SMS messages from 3rd party provider (not from Steam itself) with one-time 2FA codes (that are active for 15 minutes). No Steam account details, access to an account or any of that jazz.

Let me quote official Steam response:
«The leak consisted of older text messages that included one-time codes that were only valid for 15-minute time frames and the phone numbers they were sent to. The leaked data did not associate the phone numbers with a Steam account, password information, payment information or other personal data. Old text messages cannot be used to breach the security of your Steam account, and whenever a code is used to change your Steam email or password using SMS, you will receive a confirmation via email and/or Steam secure messages.»
Source: https://store.steampowered....

The only bad thing about this is the phone numbers. But while that sucks, attacker doesn't know which Steam account this phone number belongs to. IMO, the only thing people should be rioting about is how unprotected the SMS are and the 3rd party service that was used by Steam. I'm all for punishing people who screwed up and/or lacked the security. But this is not it.

FinalFantasyFanatic45d ago

Why riot? They have nothing of value, can't even steal an account with the details they have, they would have to attempt a brute force attack, you can already do that with a Steam user's account name (or any account on any site) if you really wanted to spend the time and processing power to do it.

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Creature Collector Fest hits Steam with some epic discounts

The Creature Collector Fest event has come to steam until May 19. Here are some epic discounted games to scratch the critter gathering itch.

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Unmourned is a new horror title made by 2 brothers from Greece

Codebros Studio comes from Thessaloniki Greece and presents us with their new horror game Unmourned which you can check out now on Steam.

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