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DICE: making Battlefield 4 look the same on all platforms would be "the coward's way out"

"You should compare it to other games on the same platform," not different versions - executive producer Patrick Bach.

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dirigiblebill1014d ago

Seems fair, but it's hard not to focus on what you're not getting with the current gen version when all they show in trailers are high-end PC graphics...

Neixus1014d ago

They actually have released a x360 trailer, if you didn't know.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Mad Aizen1013d ago (Edited 1013d ago )

gimping, EA, and microsoft? eh who knows if they'll be bullied or not, but judging by the corporate players involved in this 'dumbing down' scenario and their collective histories, i'm not holding my breath.

judging by what we've seen GG do w/ KZSF, there's no doubt that BF4 couldn't look anything less than stellar on the 4 if Dice really really wanted it to be that way. i'll believe it when it see it.

DatNJDom811013d ago

dice thinks they are slick. Of course he means the current gen and next gen will have a difference. But next gen, as in this gen, they will program for the inferior box (xbone) and then port it over to PS4 even though PS4 has been praised to be easier to develop for. Why do I say that? Because microfalse specifically asked that any game on xbox consoles cannot look better on any competitor system. Do not get it twisted. Next gen multiplats will not push PS4 to the limit. As in this gen, everyone must rely on exclusives to show off the power of each specific console.

Army_of_Darkness1013d ago

Well in that case, when i compare killzone shadowfall to bf4 on ps4 its no comparison cause killzone sf looks freakin' amazing!
Bf4 on ps4 should be 1080p hands down. Anything less is just dumbing it down for the sake of equality.

morganfell1013d ago

When companies make preemptive remarks it usually means damage control ahead of a PR issue. They'll push for parity and will have no excuse when other developers do not.

ambientFLIER1013d ago (Edited 1013d ago )

Army of Darkness -

How do you have so many bubbles while spouting nonsense like that? You think BF4 SHOULD easily be 1080P/60FPS on the PS4 with huge 64 player maps, destruction and tons of other stuff going on, versus Killzone, which can't even hit 60fps in single player and is much smaller in scope overall? Jeez...

Sono4211013d ago (Edited 1013d ago )

uhh did you guys even read the article?

"You could take the coward's way out, and just set the bar at Xbox 360 and PS3, and make it so that all games look the same on all platforms, but that's not who we are. We want to do our best with the hardware"

From the way it sounds they aren't talking about Xbox One and PS4 they're talking about current gen vs next gen.. which should really go without saying like wtf? So does this mean still no maximizing PS4?

Army_of_Darkness1013d ago

@ambient

I didn't know I also said 60fps....... my baaaaaad..

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Kleptic1014d ago (Edited 1014d ago )

edit: oh, I didn't see that...i stand corrected...

BallsEye1013d ago

so now all the fanboys saying ps4 version isn't 1080p full high end pc detail because it needs to look on par with XO can shut up. With the claims that ps4 is so easy and fast to develop on, and rumors that XO is having such bad tools, is rushed and is hard to work on, we can expect ps4 version to be MUCH MUCH better. If ps4 version won't stand out then ps4 is just not a wondrmachine and is not 50% more powerful than XO. As for me, got it preordered already!

Hicken1013d ago

Good job not reading the article.

sync901013d ago (Edited 1013d ago )

Another xbot talking rubbish to make them feel better about the shit that is the xbone.

Oh and btw.... RYSE??????? GTFO

BallsEye1013d ago (Edited 1013d ago )

@Hicken

Good job reading with understanding. I did read the article and it clearly talks about using maximum power of every system instead of setting the bar at lowest common denominator. You get it now? Glad I could help.

@kB0

Conclusions? Whats with you people here on n4g, seriously. learn to read, man. I wrote ps4 version SHOULD LOOK MUCH BETTER. If it will happen then great! If it won't be much better then all these rumors were lies or there is something more to XO or ps4 that we don't know. Simple as that. I fail to see where I made a conclusion that ps4 is weaker.

kB01013d ago (Edited 1013d ago )

Your comment is flawed, considering the ps4 sports 50% MORE shaders and over all faster ram...I don't see where you would draw your conclusions from?

@ BallsDeep

You need to learn to remember what You said in your comment..and I quote "is not 50% more powerful than XO".

That is exactly what I touched up on.

Thank you

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kingduqc1013d ago

I am a company showing off my game,wanting to impress people here is few options:

-Show the game running on 7 year old hardware, choppy framerate and low resolution (ps3/360

-Show the game on low/medium end hardware (ps4/xbone) with somewhat low resolution (900p/1080p)

-Show the game running all the latest and greatest tech, down sampling the fuck out of the video to make sure it looks as crisp as it can on high end hardware (pc)

Humm I WONDER WHAT IS THE BEST OPTION? the game will be about the same on every platform, some just get more eye candy.

xKugo1013d ago

People playing this on next-gen hardware going to be so shocked when they see how horrible that version looks compared to the PC version and the videos we've seen so far.

However, I won't be getting this game anyway because the battle packs system is lame as fuck. Grind forever just for a chance to get attachments I want or just buy them. Yea...fuck that.

Magicite1013d ago

every developer must push every console to the max, no parity!
Vote with your wallets!

Mithan1013d ago

The PC is far far superior to the consoles that are coming out (albeit it at a far higher price). Obviously, people are wowed by graphics and that is what they CARE about, so that is what DICE shows them.

donman11013d ago

So why limit the PS4 version so it can be more inline with the lower spec XboxOne.

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Pancit_Canton1014d ago (Edited 1014d ago )

Third party developers should take notes. Unfortunately, BF4 looks like _____ on all platforms.

BiggCMan1014d ago

Uhhhh, nope. Looks fantastic on PC, and that's just in the beta.

On a related note, I agree more devs need to be this way instead of compromising other platforms just for parity. I say treat multiplat developing as if each different version were an exclusive title basically. But this will never happen due to Microsoft is what I think, but that's just me.

WarThunder1013d ago (Edited 1013d ago )

I agree with some of your points, about MS.

But i played the PC beta and honestly i don't know whats the buzz about BF4 graphics sure it has some good looking effects and particles. Overall looks good, but nothing fantastic special about it. So called "next gen"...

papashango1013d ago

You do realize that Developers have been saying that next-gen won't be as impressive as PS2/Xbox to PS3/360 for awhile now right?

Next-gen should have been about making 60fps 1080p w/ high res textures the standard. Not a huge jump but it's coming out that "next-gen" consoles won't even be able to handle that.

It's not about what you saw when you played it. If you played it at max res 60+ fps. You would probably know why it's impressive on pc. But I somehow doubt you were.

Nocando1013d ago

Playing the beta on PC on max settings, it's nothing special.

ThatCanadianGuy5141013d ago

Hey papa, don't lump both next gen consoles in the same category.PS4 is rocking everything at 1080p native so far, except BF4 which is still undisclosed.And lots of games at 60fps.

Just because xbox can't keep up doesn't mean next gen is a wash.

BallsEye1013d ago

@DayZ

Ah I love your fanboy comments. I really didn't wanted to reply but it's just so fun to read your delusional "facts". Xbox can't keep up? Please show a single game on ps4 that looks any better than Ryse. Full HD screenshot from direct feed would be best (no shitty youtube videos). I can post you plenty and you will be ashamed thinking 1080p is benchmark of next-gen. Those ps4 games run in 1080p with no AA, low poly models and few effects. Now I'm not saying ps4 is not capable, for sure it is but i'd rather have 900p stunning graphics, lighting, particles etc than a shitty looking game forcing itself to be 1080p just for the sake of it.

http://images.pushsquare.co...
http://www.destructoid.com/...

holysh!t 1080p next-gen!

http://www.cinemablend.com/...
http://images.eurogamer.net...

That trees and jaggies and textures look next-gen too!

http://i1.minus.com/iLeZ86p...

Look at that second son enviroment! The trees on the left are mindblowing!

This is all direct feed and no i didn't re-program these games just to make them look like this and do screenshots.

So the bottom line is, unless you stick your nose to the tv you won't see ANY difference between 900p and 1080p with good scaler especially when HUD is native 1080p (yep, layered scaling) and you WILL notice big difference when textures are worse, models or lighting. Stop trolling already will you?

Haules1013d ago (Edited 1013d ago )

@BallsEye

I love how MS fant**ds are in damage control. You have been contentiously posting those same images over and over again.

I like how you hand picked the Infamous Screen with the LOD glitch.
While Infamous is yet to release in 2014, they said their demos wasn't finish and they have a lot work to be done.

And to tell you the truth the first KZ SF screens are pretty impressive and better than anything on the X1

http://images.vg247.com/cur...
http://blogs-images.forbes....
http://images.vg247.com/cur...
http://oi41.tinypic.com/rat...

Lets see knack
http://media1.gameinformer....
http://cdn2.dualshockers.co...
http://cdn2.dualshockers.co...
http://insideplaystation.co...

And btw Knack was never about graphics and more about gameplay but still looks good.

Lets see Infamous Second sun latest screens

http://computergames.ro/wp-...
http://www.cheats.co/blog/w...
http://www.cheats.co/blog/w...
http://www.cheats.co/blog/w...
http://www.onlysp.com/wp-co...

Hmmm these screens look pretty impressive to me and all of those great lookin game will run at 1080p 60fps. Not to mention seeing these games in motion.

Lets see your flopza and why it runs at 1080p
http://s8.postimg.org/73s1s...

So the real bottom line is, your beloved piece of plastic (X1) has inferior hardware. FACT deal with it... And no one is stopping you from buying it.

ThatCanadianGuy5141013d ago

Ballz

Nothing you said changes the fact that every game on PS4 so far (BF4 too?) Is native 1080p.That alone is impressive enough, even more so when most are 60fps.

While Xbones games are all 720p/30fps or 900p/30fps.With the occasional 1080p multiplat

You can pick and choose random screens from games that aren't even released yet all you want.My point still stands.

P.S
KZ already looks miles ahead of ryse

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KillrateOmega1013d ago

Either you are a troll or just have some unrealistically high standards.

I'm guessing the former.

MightyNoX1014d ago

Hopefulyl it means no parity and that the PS4 version won't be gimped.

Please don't be bullied, DiCE.

Nocando1013d ago

Serious question, and think before you answer, what would your attitude be if the X1 was more powerful?

MasterCornholio1013d ago (Edited 1013d ago )

You still believe in the dual GPU rumor from MisterX?

Didn't you know that Penello debunked that a long time ago.

Anyways my belief is that developers should develop each version according to the consoles capabilitys. What I mean by this is that the weakest console should have the worse version of the game and the strongest one should have the best.

Nexus 7 2013

madjedi1013d ago (Edited 1013d ago )

Then the xbone version would be the superior console version and dice shouldn't gimp the xbone due to the ps4's weaker specs.

Hypothetical question answered, now back to reality.

The xbone is significantly weaker than the ps4, both by roughly 700ish gflops and is handicapped by the ddr 3 and edram.

"Serious question, and think before you answer, what would your attitude be if the X1 was more powerful?"

I would guess potential xbone owners would be happy that they aren't paying $499 for a console that is significantly weaker than a $399 console, but a more powerful one.

That little what if would require ms to not have shifted away from gaming as a priority 4+ yrs ago.

"Playing the beta on PC on max settings, it's nothing special."

Okay right, it will still outright murder both next gen versions with ease, like all pc games assuming you have a good enough rig.

Here is what is holding back everyone pc, xbone and ps4, the ps3 and 360 versions of bf4.

Powerful/more powerful is useless without a sense of scale, you have $100+ card up to guys rock triple titans in sli.

PR_FROM_OHIO1014d ago

I'll believe it when i see it!! Never trust EA

Jovanian 1013d ago

Lol at the people foolish enough to think even next gen consoles will match the PC footage they've been showing...

The_KELRaTH1013d ago

As the 1st thing that's required is upsampling to 1080p the next gen console versions will never look like the PC version.

SeanScythe1013d ago

To the PClitist who's PC are we comparing consoles to? Mine? Yours? EA? Bill Gates? Sorry to burst your bubbles but everyone's PC isn't the same, my $700 PC is not the same as a $1200 pc and that one isn't compared to a $3000 so on and so on. But My console is the same as all my other friends who own that same console. I don't have to hear from them that their version looks better than mine because I can't afford a $300 video card or more memory or a faster processor.

Now my next-gen console will have the same gameplay as the PC will regardless of the PC's ability to have prettier graphics. 60fps, 64Players online, same size maps, same weapons, same everything. But lower resolution... I think I'll live.

Jovanian 1013d ago (Edited 1013d ago )

You'll be playing with a controller..an FPS game with a controller. The gameplay is fundamentally altered from the PC version, you just aren't using the best input method.

you'll be playing a version of BF4, but it won't be the best one, and it will not have the same gameplay, just as a result of not being able to use accurate input methods to play it.

You also don't have options for greater field of view, and just little things that make the experience much better, more immersive, and more tactical for PC.

Bolts1013d ago

PS4 fanboys= The PS4 is the most powerful console ever! Specs matter! Greatness Awaits!

PC Master Race= Oh yeah? Your graphics sucks and my specs are X4 as yours.

PS4 fanboys= specs don't matter.

Gotta love that fanboy logic. Everything about the PS4 hardware advantage is important, until is it faced with a truly superior platform, then all the sudden specs don't matter anymore.

The irony of all this is that Xbox One and PS4 specs are astoundingly similar, if there's ever a comparison where specs don't matter its between the Xbox One vs the PS4. Yet to the PS4 fanboy eyes it's light years apart. Go figure.

Ashby_JC1013d ago

I just wish everything was out so we could actually play some games!!! looking forward to 64 player action!!!!!!

I just pre ordered my next gen system!!!

People going back and forth posting pics and arguing specs is funny and pathetic at the same time. Entertaining and annoying!!

It wont stop at all .... human nature.

SeanScythe1013d ago

BS I never liked playing with mouse and Keyboards on FPS's. That's your choice, the FOV come on really? It's the same damn game you gave a BS response. That's like saying oh you won't be able to check facebook at the same time because the console can't multitask. Or you can't use Hotkeys because it's not a keyboard.

Jovanian 1013d ago

Keyboard and mouse is best input for FPS games. Preference will not change that fact. And the FOV thing is little but opens up so many more gameplay options, which is what the PC is all about. Gameplay options that make it the defining version in terms of gameplay.

I'm sorry but you're just not getting the same experience I'm getting when you play BF4 on a console.

Ashby_JC1013d ago

I agree that M KB is a better option.

BUT......I dont PC game just as allot of others dont. So they wont know or CARE about the differences.

ME....if they ever had the option for consoles...I would JUMP on that sooooooo fast lol. But as it stands....controller or a frag fx device is your only option.