"You should compare it to other games on the same platform," not different versions - executive producer Patrick Bach.
Seems fair, but it's hard not to focus on what you're not getting with the current gen version when all they show in trailers are high-end PC graphics...
They actually have released a x360 trailer, if you didn't know. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
gimping, EA, and microsoft? eh who knows if they'll be bullied or not, but judging by the corporate players involved in this 'dumbing down' scenario and their collective histories, i'm not holding my breath. judging by what we've seen GG do w/ KZSF, there's no doubt that BF4 couldn't look anything less than stellar on the 4 if Dice really really wanted it to be that way. i'll believe it when it see it.
dice thinks they are slick. Of course he means the current gen and next gen will have a difference. But next gen, as in this gen, they will program for the inferior box (xbone) and then port it over to PS4 even though PS4 has been praised to be easier to develop for. Why do I say that? Because microfalse specifically asked that any game on xbox consoles cannot look better on any competitor system. Do not get it twisted. Next gen multiplats will not push PS4 to the limit. As in this gen, everyone must rely on exclusives to show off the power of each specific console.
Well in that case, when i compare killzone shadowfall to bf4 on ps4 its no comparison cause killzone sf looks freakin' amazing! Bf4 on ps4 should be 1080p hands down. Anything less is just dumbing it down for the sake of equality.
When companies make preemptive remarks it usually means damage control ahead of a PR issue. They'll push for parity and will have no excuse when other developers do not.
Army of Darkness - How do you have so many bubbles while spouting nonsense like that? You think BF4 SHOULD easily be 1080P/60FPS on the PS4 with huge 64 player maps, destruction and tons of other stuff going on, versus Killzone, which can't even hit 60fps in single player and is much smaller in scope overall? Jeez...
uhh did you guys even read the article? "You could take the coward's way out, and just set the bar at Xbox 360 and PS3, and make it so that all games look the same on all platforms, but that's not who we are. We want to do our best with the hardware" From the way it sounds they aren't talking about Xbox One and PS4 they're talking about current gen vs next gen.. which should really go without saying like wtf? So does this mean still no maximizing PS4?
@ambient I didn't know I also said 60fps....... my baaaaaad..
edit: oh, I didn't see that...i stand corrected...
so now all the fanboys saying ps4 version isn't 1080p full high end pc detail because it needs to look on par with XO can shut up. With the claims that ps4 is so easy and fast to develop on, and rumors that XO is having such bad tools, is rushed and is hard to work on, we can expect ps4 version to be MUCH MUCH better. If ps4 version won't stand out then ps4 is just not a wondrmachine and is not 50% more powerful than XO. As for me, got it preordered already!
Good job not reading the article.
Another xbot talking rubbish to make them feel better about the shit that is the xbone. Oh and btw.... RYSE??????? GTFO
@Hicken Good job reading with understanding. I did read the article and it clearly talks about using maximum power of every system instead of setting the bar at lowest common denominator. You get it now? Glad I could help. @kB0 Conclusions? Whats with you people here on n4g, seriously. learn to read, man. I wrote ps4 version SHOULD LOOK MUCH BETTER. If it will happen then great! If it won't be much better then all these rumors were lies or there is something more to XO or ps4 that we don't know. Simple as that. I fail to see where I made a conclusion that ps4 is weaker.
Your comment is flawed, considering the ps4 sports 50% MORE shaders and over all faster ram...I don't see where you would draw your conclusions from? @ BallsDeep You need to learn to remember what You said in your comment..and I quote "is not 50% more powerful than XO". That is exactly what I touched up on. Thank you
I am a company showing off my game,wanting to impress people here is few options: -Show the game running on 7 year old hardware, choppy framerate and low resolution (ps3/360 -Show the game on low/medium end hardware (ps4/xbone) with somewhat low resolution (900p/1080p) -Show the game running all the latest and greatest tech, down sampling the fuck out of the video to make sure it looks as crisp as it can on high end hardware (pc) Humm I WONDER WHAT IS THE BEST OPTION? the game will be about the same on every platform, some just get more eye candy.
People playing this on next-gen hardware going to be so shocked when they see how horrible that version looks compared to the PC version and the videos we've seen so far. However, I won't be getting this game anyway because the battle packs system is lame as fuck. Grind forever just for a chance to get attachments I want or just buy them. Yea...fuck that.
every developer must push every console to the max, no parity! Vote with your wallets!
The PC is far far superior to the consoles that are coming out (albeit it at a far higher price). Obviously, people are wowed by graphics and that is what they CARE about, so that is what DICE shows them.
So why limit the PS4 version so it can be more inline with the lower spec XboxOne.
Third party developers should take notes. Unfortunately, BF4 looks like _____ on all platforms.
Uhhhh, nope. Looks fantastic on PC, and that's just in the beta. On a related note, I agree more devs need to be this way instead of compromising other platforms just for parity. I say treat multiplat developing as if each different version were an exclusive title basically. But this will never happen due to Microsoft is what I think, but that's just me.
I agree with some of your points, about MS. But i played the PC beta and honestly i don't know whats the buzz about BF4 graphics sure it has some good looking effects and particles. Overall looks good, but nothing fantastic special about it. So called "next gen"...
You do realize that Developers have been saying that next-gen won't be as impressive as PS2/Xbox to PS3/360 for awhile now right? Next-gen should have been about making 60fps 1080p w/ high res textures the standard. Not a huge jump but it's coming out that "next-gen" consoles won't even be able to handle that. It's not about what you saw when you played it. If you played it at max res 60+ fps. You would probably know why it's impressive on pc. But I somehow doubt you were.
Playing the beta on PC on max settings, it's nothing special.
Hey papa, don't lump both next gen consoles in the same category.PS4 is rocking everything at 1080p native so far, except BF4 which is still undisclosed.And lots of games at 60fps. Just because xbox can't keep up doesn't mean next gen is a wash.
@DayZ Ah I love your fanboy comments. I really didn't wanted to reply but it's just so fun to read your delusional "facts". Xbox can't keep up? Please show a single game on ps4 that looks any better than Ryse. Full HD screenshot from direct feed would be best (no shitty youtube videos). I can post you plenty and you will be ashamed thinking 1080p is benchmark of next-gen. Those ps4 games run in 1080p with no AA, low poly models and few effects. Now I'm not saying ps4 is not capable, for sure it is but i'd rather have 900p stunning graphics, lighting, particles etc than a shitty looking game forcing itself to be 1080p just for the sake of it. http://images.pushsquare.co... http://www.destructoid.com/... holysh!t 1080p next-gen! http://www.cinemablend.com/... http://images.eurogamer.net... That trees and jaggies and textures look next-gen too! http://i1.minus.com/iLeZ86p... Look at that second son enviroment! The trees on the left are mindblowing! This is all direct feed and no i didn't re-program these games just to make them look like this and do screenshots. So the bottom line is, unless you stick your nose to the tv you won't see ANY difference between 900p and 1080p with good scaler especially when HUD is native 1080p (yep, layered scaling) and you WILL notice big difference when textures are worse, models or lighting. Stop trolling already will you?
@BallsEye I love how MS fant**ds are in damage control. You have been contentiously posting those same images over and over again. I like how you hand picked the Infamous Screen with the LOD glitch. While Infamous is yet to release in 2014, they said their demos wasn't finish and they have a lot work to be done. And to tell you the truth the first KZ SF screens are pretty impressive and better than anything on the X1 http://images.vg247.com/cur... http://blogs-images.forbes.... http://images.vg247.com/cur... http://oi41.tinypic.com/rat... Lets see knack http://media1.gameinformer.... http://cdn2.dualshockers.co... http://cdn2.dualshockers.co... http://insideplaystation.co... And btw Knack was never about graphics and more about gameplay but still looks good. Lets see Infamous Second sun latest screens http://computergames.ro/wp-... http://www.cheats.co/blog/w... http://www.cheats.co/blog/w... http://www.cheats.co/blog/w... http://www.onlysp.com/wp-co... Hmmm these screens look pretty impressive to me and all of those great lookin game will run at 1080p 60fps. Not to mention seeing these games in motion. Lets see your flopza and why it runs at 1080p http://s8.postimg.org/73s1s... So the real bottom line is, your beloved piece of plastic (X1) has inferior hardware. FACT deal with it... And no one is stopping you from buying it.
Ballz Nothing you said changes the fact that every game on PS4 so far (BF4 too?) Is native 1080p.That alone is impressive enough, even more so when most are 60fps. While Xbones games are all 720p/30fps or 900p/30fps.With the occasional 1080p multiplat You can pick and choose random screens from games that aren't even released yet all you want.My point still stands. P.S KZ already looks miles ahead of ryse
Either you are a troll or just have some unrealistically high standards. I'm guessing the former.