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Submitted by Rhinoceros 335d ago | opinion piece

Gamescom: Battlefield 4's Graphics Lacking on PS4

This week at Gamescom, DICE is offering hands-on with Battlefield 4 running on a PS4. How does it look? The answer might surprise you. (Battlefield 4, PS4)

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Wizziokid  +   335d ago
Well lets hope they sort out this for launch...
s8anicslayer  +   335d ago
Your going to see this for all console ports which really is a damn shame. The game looks beautiful running on PC lackluster for PS4 and a no show for Xbox One...hmm!
black0o  +   335d ago
DICE always works on PC 1st thn consoles .. let's wait and see the game on launch then let's have this talk then

if BF4 can look anything like KZ sf I hve no worries
Muerte2494  +   335d ago
This is a none issue for me. Battlefield 3 felt alot like COD so I bought it and never even played it. Killzone will be holding me over until I upgrade my PC.
thechosenone   335d ago | Trolling | show
tuglu_pati  +   335d ago
@black0o

You cant compare BF4 to KZ multiplayer graphics because one has planes, choppers, vehicles total destruction and the other not. All this affect graphics and performance.
LOGICWINS  +   335d ago
Comparing KZ to BF isn't fair. Shadow Fall doesn't have the same scope of BF and GG devoted ALL their time and energy on the PS4, as opposed to DICE who had to spread out their resources over five different platforms.
AlexanderNevermind  +   335d ago
People must understand that the specs of the PC used to run BF4 demos would smoke a Console (Dual AMD Radeon HD 7970s and AMD FX-8350 4ghz). I run an AMD FX 8350 and a single 660ti. So my personal machine doesn't compare. Also the majority of PC gamers aren't running in SLI yet. So even they won't match the performance of the rig used for BF4.

All that being said of course the PS4 un-optimized demo will look subpar. Way to early in the game to bitch and moan about the PS4 demo specs imo.
Blackdeath_663  +   335d ago
yeah it really seems PC is the way to go. i've made the switch to pc just in time for BF4
Pisque  +   335d ago
Go PC
ABizzel1  +   335d ago
The whole last paragraph of the article sums this up.

"As uninspiring as my demo was visually, it's also important to remember that we are still months away from Battlefield 4's release. It's clearly a work in progress. And most importantly, the game itself is still very much a blast to play. But if today's demonstration is any indication, DICE's commitment to supporting 64-player games and maintaining a solid 60 FPS on next-gen consoles could very well come at the cost of visual fidelity, and as a franchise renowned for its state-of-the-art graphics, it's an unexpected compromise."

It's a work in progress, and if they optimize the game then this is what you should expect to be playing come launch.

660 (PS4) vs. 650 Ti Boost (XB1)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

PS4 (7970m)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

But with them making BF4 for PC, PS4, XB1, PS3, X360 this is what happens.
StoutBEER  +   335d ago
@Muerte If you felt like Battlefield was like CoD but you love Killzone?? Imma stay the hell away from Killzone.
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GiggMan  +   335d ago
This is not surprising and it's also the reason I picked up the Killzone SF bundle with my next gen purchase.

Killzone is the only shooter that is coming out with just the next gen in mind. Most AAA games coming out this year are all coming out on PS3, Xbox 360, Wii U etc. They are all going to be watered down experiences for the PS4 and Xbox One.

We are going to see the same thing with Watchdogs, AC4, CoD and any other game coming out on current gen hardware being ported to next gen.
NewMonday  +   335d ago
BF4 was running on a frigging $4000 PC

http://bf4central.com/2013/...

$4000 vs $400

is difference in graphics 10x ??
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thezeldadoth  +   335d ago
its not going to get much better between now and launch.
JsonHenry  +   335d ago
If it bother you that much to have subpar graphics then just go buy/build a PC like the rest of us.

If not then enjoy it on the consoles.

We have options people. Just choose yours.
morganfell  +   335d ago
@tuglu,

And Killzone has a hundred times more detail in the environment. Have bothered to look at the game recently?

https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Ju  +   335d ago
You can't compare this to KZ:SF? You blind? The opening sequence of KZ dwarfs BF4 in every respect. The draw distance in the cityscape is unmatched. The water shader used for all those water falls, real time reflections, lighting, the "air strips" with moving vehicles, ton of NPCs is nothing but amazing. Given the SP runs 30fps - and yet, all those weather effects made it into the MP and it still runs at full resolution and 60fps.

If Dice scales BF4 down just to reach 60fps this is a massive mistake. But not really a surprise after what surfaced here lately. It looks the same as previous games. Disappointing. Really.
mewhy32  +   335d ago
If it looks bad on the PS4 then the bone version will look like last gen.
SnotyTheRocket  +   335d ago
Does it have 64 players? Check. Does it have 60FPS? Check. 720p or 1080p? I could care less. If it's fun, and doesn't look worse than BF3 on current gen, I'm fine.
MidnytRain  +   335d ago
newmonday

You won't NEED a four thousand dollar rig to max out Battlefield!
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NegativeCreepWA  +   335d ago
Like I said months ago, I don't care what BF4 looks like as long as it has 64 players like it should.
vulcanproject  +   335d ago
It'll always look better on a good PC. The question is merely how close can DICE actually make the console versions.

Its a big ask knocking out so many versions stretching your team and on new console hardware. If you get 720p/60FPS and similar assets to maximum on PC then you shouldn't complain
Ritsujun  +   335d ago
Y so mad, HardTileD_?
Br0nc0B0y27  +   335d ago
they showed BF4 gameplay at microsofts E3 press conference...
thereapersson  +   334d ago
@ 1.1.18

Ju, that is a (+) bubble-worthy comment you have there!
mikeslemonade  +   334d ago
I'm not impressed by this game regardless if it's on console or PC. It's visually average in both respects.
The_HarryEtTubMan  +   334d ago
Yea I switched to PC too. I have so much more fun on PC and if you have the money you should. There is still fun on the consoles, but there is a huge difference in PC and console gaming. And PC gaming is booming too so nows the time to join! Just built a PC with a 7950 about 2 weeks ago and I am so happy I did.
timl241  +   334d ago
First there was an article stating that BF4 will run at 1080p at 60 fps. Then there was an article saying it would only be 720p. Now this. Do we all see why this website might stretch the truth a little bit. Now granted, I understand its still in its alpha stage, but the console is out in 2 1/2 months. They really shouldn't be having these issues
Thisisjuju  +   335d ago
I do hope they get it looking swish before release.

I remember think how awesome BF3 looked when they released the trailers and then being somewhat disappointed when playing the multilayer on consoles.

I hope BF4 is not the same story. With it being 64 players and 60FPS I am more confident that it wont be.
BlingBlaine  +   335d ago
How much $$$$$ do those pc's running bf4 cost? 18-2000$?

PS4 $400

So IGN is trash media and we know it, terrible article nothing new from IGN.
andibandit  +   335d ago
the cheaper the better,

im getting it on ps3[200$]
Andronix  +   335d ago
The article is comparing the graphics from a tricked out super pc with the PS4, which is silly. Comparing the PS4 to Xbone is understandable - although that wasn't done here.
MWong  +   335d ago
Hell where is the video footage of this game play that had you worried? That's my question?

I really want to see some BF4 footage on the consoles.
Deadpoolio  +   335d ago
Thats becasue you can't compare the PS4 to the One80 at the moment since every scrap of every game shown for the One80 were all running on PCs running Windows 7 with Nvidia graphics cards...There has not been one piece of any game shown actually running on a One80
solar  +   335d ago
We were told by Sony the PS4 is a "Supercharged PC". If it can't produce what a PC now does, it's a bold face lie.
extermin8or  +   334d ago
@Andronix well other games look superb-killzone, infamous etc so really if its the developers who cant get it running when others can whatever their reasons its on them not the console or Sony's fault
thetruthx1  +   335d ago
The Xbox version will take advantage of the exclusive directx 11.2 so it'll more than likely perform better
Gozer  +   335d ago
With the esram, hypervisor, and tiled resources you could possibly be right. They did show BF4 singleplayer running on an X1 devkit at E3 and it looked good.
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Mkai28  +   335d ago
I would like to add the X1 has the move engines that takes loads off the GPU/CPU as well..(you know when the PS3 had the weaker GPU but still came out on top due to the cell processors) It also has a custom audio processor that can help the CPU.
So you have DirectX 11.2, 32MBs of eSRAM, hypervisor, custom audio processor, move engines, not including the cloud because its unproven until otherwise.
Sitdown  +   335d ago
Could you imagine what would happen to the world, or at least n4g,if this game looked better on the xbox one than ps4? There will be riots and looting to the likes that have never been seen before. Or at least reports that there was poor coding and the developers don't understand how to unleash the power of the ps4,all while pointing to Killzone.
Evilsnuggle  +   335d ago
Thetruthx1 if xbone was the Superior version of battleflied 4 Why not show it on xbone Instead of PS4 . Why would dice want all the Negative stories and negative press I have read 5 Negative Articles on battleflied 4 . The PS4 is the best Game console version that is why they a showing it. All xbone game are having frame rate problems Except for forza 5.
thezeldadoth  +   335d ago
do not speak such blasphemy on n4g. sony could release a weak tablet and somehow people would claim it has better graphics than xbox
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windblowsagain  +   335d ago
The onebox one pushes less pixels, has less rops, less texture units. Wtf are you on.

I'm surprised they can manage 60fps on it.
Ju  +   335d ago
Where did this game actually run on physical Xbone HW? Link please.
slimpickens  +   335d ago
This is incredibly funny! It's like gamers on both sides are looking for any reason to call the other console inferior lol. The Sony fans are trying to keep the momentum going and the Xbox fans are trying to get it started but late to the punch because of MS and there new stance. If they announce the console release on the same day I'm sure we will have many fights. Tupac-station vs Biggie-one
pyramidshead  +   334d ago
@gozer, no sources. Telling. :)
papashango  +   334d ago
I also noticed the sony crowd trying to stop the M$ momentum from building on n4g. Fruitless effort as the x1 hype is building.
testo6  +   335d ago
Dice says that Battlefield 4 on ps4 is not optimized yet... so...yes its going to look awesome at launch, they have like 3 months to work that out. :)
NextGen24Gamer  +   335d ago
Only problem is we are only a couple months away from launch, yet a game like TitanFall is 6 to 7 months away and looks WAAAAY better. I would be a little worried, optimized or not. It's getting close to launch time.

Now on the flip side, they actually had a demo at E3 playing on xbox one HARDWARE and it looked great.

So I don't understand how it could look so crappy on the ps4 so close to launch. Isn't the ps4 have more RAW SPECS??????????

Please Sony Fans come defend, please come explain, please tell me how can this be?????

P.S. I'm getting my popcorn out and I'm going to just LOVE the defensive responses.

2 months from launch PEOPLE!!!!!!!!
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DeadlyFire  +   335d ago
@Elite.

You have no idea how much can change in 3 months time of development.

Titanfall is using what game engine again? Source. Runs at close to 100+ fps on new PC hardware. How hard would it be to lock that down to 60 fps.
ABeastNamedTariq  +   335d ago
"...yet a game like TitanFall is 6 to 7 months away and looks WAAAAY better. I would be a little worried, optimized or not. It's getting close to launch time."

I SURE hope you don't mean graphically. On Source Engine? GTFO.
Sitdown  +   335d ago
August 23, 2013 + 3 months = November 23 > ps4 launch date.

How quickly do games ship after going gold?
thezeldadoth  +   335d ago
^ Source engine > Frostbite
MrBeatdown  +   335d ago
@Elite24Gamer

I like how you immediately blame the PS4 hardware without even comparing it to Battlefield on Xbox One, which would be a far more accurate method of determining that the issue lies with PS4 hardware, rather than anything else.

You're definitely a logical, reasonable person, and definitely not someone I'll mark for obvious trolling.
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andibandit  +   335d ago
these last 3 months will be devoted to testing and weeding out bugs, not some major overhaul to improve engine performance on ps4.
papashango  +   334d ago
have been a fan of battlefield for years. DICE has never made massive changes months before launch. This is merely damage control from them.
ATi_Elite  +   335d ago
BLASPHEMY

No one can talk bad about the Almighty Playstation 4 and expect to have another article approved on N4G.

I'm sure Sony fanboys are boycotting IGN as we speak.

Clearly BF4 on the PS4 will look 10x better than any $4000 PC.

Why? cause a $400 PS4 made by Sony is ALWAYS better than any old $4000 High end bleeding edge hardware PC.

.....and as an Enthusiast PC Gamer I'm SHOCKED and in total disbelief that a PS4 couldn't run BF4 the way a PC could.

The Nerve of IGN to write such a BIASED article especially during this moment of Sony chest pounding and PS4 Hype!

(Cause BF4 was made PC first then ported down cause that's the way it's suppose to be done, Good Job DICE we know your still PC first)
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Allsystemgamer  +   335d ago
Youre making us look bad...
DeadlyFire  +   335d ago
They could have made 1box version first and ported across. Never know really. It would explain why PS4 version has some touching up to do.

All 3 should look fairly similar at launch. PC is luxury platform so its always going to look the best.
SonyPS4  +   335d ago
I am definitely getting this on PC. That is how to truly experience the game in its full glory.
controllers.. ugh..

Takes 3 hours to turn left.

getting this on pc.

Glad to see devs use pc in full rather than try to make it 1:1 with console version.

"But up until now, all of the demos we've seen of Battlefield 4 have been running on supercharged PCs"

Poor Mark Cerney lol
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Ju  +   335d ago
What has this to do with the PS4? This does not match any of the games we have seen so far. Blame Dice, not Sony. Or EA if you will.
Mini0510  +   335d ago
whatever, a $1000 new pc will run this high to max. Just turn down the AA. 4x AA kills your frames
seanpitt23  +   335d ago
The article dosnt say anything about the ps4 graphics lacking somebody has just changed the title of an article that I have already seen.
assdan  +   335d ago
Yeah, because I'm sure it won't run the same or lower on xbox one.
needs more high end pc in it?

We forget ps4 is super powered tablet hardware?
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plaZeHD  +   335d ago
Dice makes terrible ports for consoles. I mean Battlefield 3 looked utter shit on consoles, it's like they didn't even bother to optimize the game.
kriauciuniux  +   335d ago
People always hope this but it never improves in graphics.
yeahokchief  +   334d ago
@tuglu_pati

Yes you can compare KZ with BF4. If one is more fun to play because it has been optimized for the PS4 instead of being the gimped version of a pc port then KZ will be the handsdown winner on the PS4. It will deserve the money spent on it.

I'm not buying BF4 until i see PS4 gameplay and know all the facts. I will wait until they bundle all the DLC in and give it a price cut on a black friday next year.

Gonna be too busy playing GTA V for either anyways.
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BallsEye  +   334d ago
I can already see the top comments if this would be an XO article. XO inferior ! ps4 will run at 1080p bla bla ram bla bla.

I gotta addmit that kind of sucks but better than 1080p and 30 fps. When you have big tv and sit 2 meters away you won't really see the difference if there will be good AA.
imt558  +   334d ago
I think the real reason is that BF4 is cross-gen title. Look, guys, DICE is developing game for 5 fucking platforms, because of that, game suffer for porting on another platforms. I wish that PS3/X360 version is never happen. But EA wants money and it must be on as many platform as possible. To bad it is not on 3 platforms : XO/PS4/PC. Results will be better.
Tzunoy  +   334d ago
b..b..but ps4 is the most powerful console, so they say. I think you fan-boys are to over-hyped to sit down and admit Pc is king.
inf3cted1  +   335d ago
Its just going to be a console port.

PC ftw.
ZodTheRipper  +   335d ago
I prefer playing with a Dualshock3/4 on a 47" TV
than playing with Mouse & Keyboard on a 24" monitor.

PS4 ftw
Pisque  +   335d ago
Lol 47" is kind of bad for gaming, it's way too large. Plus you have much more graphical details on PC, which on PS4 you will see the imperfections because of the really bad hardware.
ZodTheRipper  +   335d ago
Too large? I upgraded from 37" to 42" and from 42" to 47" and it got sweeter everytime you must be kidding. I couldn't care less about miniscule details I'm enjoying near-cinema quality lol
aquamala  +   335d ago
you know you can play it on PC with dualshock controller with 47" TV OR M&B on a 24" monitor

PC ftw
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iamgoatman  +   335d ago
It's 2013 and people STILL post comments like this.

It's called a HDMI cable and motionjoy drivers for your DS3, or just plug in a 360 controller. Did you pay someone to install your TV or what?
inf3cted1  +   335d ago
You can use a DS3 emulator on the PC together with a 47'' TV.

So yeah, PC ftw.
ZodTheRipper  +   335d ago
Yes but with a PS4 I get almost the same graphical quality (these days, last gen was different) for the fraction of the costs (PS4: 400$ - PC that outmatches PS4: 800+ $) AND incredible exclusives (Uncharted, God Of War, The Last Of Us, etc. etc.) regularly.
And do you know what? It's the exclusive releases I'm looking forward to the most every year, NOT the multiplatform games. My favourite games of this generation were mostly PS3 exclusives with few exceptions. I was a PC gamer myself for a long time but times change and I can't see me coming back. Of course I have a PC with MotionJoy that runs all latest games effortlessly but I don't feel the attachment to this machine the way I feel it with a console. You PC-only gamers are a funny bunch.
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aquamala  +   335d ago
you are the funny one, claiming to have a PC but don't know you can just hook up the HDMI cable to your TV?

who are you calling a PC-only gamer? I have all the consoles but will get all the multi plat games like this on PC

and after paying $50 to play online (which you will need for BF4) for 8 years, gaming on PS4 costs the same as a $800 PC.
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ZodTheRipper  +   335d ago
What?
My PC IS connected to my TV what are you talking about? I don't even have a desk in my room that I could use for a PC. My Mouse&Keyboard are wireless and I'm writing to you now from my couch where I also play PC games. I would never want to go back to playing games on a 24" monitor and a desk.

Edit: About PS Plus: I think you don't really understand that PS Plus is about FREE games, beta invites, early access and regular discounts, not about playing online. I have received so many games through PS+ that I've no space on my 500GB PS3 at all and have to delete games every 2 weeks to download new ones. I'm feeling like I'm talking to someone from 2006 lol
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Corpser  +   335d ago
@zod18

You didn't know you need to sunscribe to ps+ to play online multiplayer on ps4?

Now you say you have a pc connected to your tv , but read your first post again

Are you ok dude?
ZodTheRipper  +   335d ago
lol the next one :D
Of course I know that PS+ is required for online but did I say that I don't want PS+? It's worth every cent and even more, I have it for almost 2 years now ...and I don't plan on unsubscribing anytime soon. So I don't care whether PS+ is required to play online.

And yes, I have a PC - that makes me a PC gamer? The only games I'm playing on PC are fresh and innovative indie games like Cubeworld, 7 Days To Die or Prison Architect or PC only games like SimCity 5. You people must come from the past, seriously lol
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aquamala  +   335d ago
lol now you have a PC connected to your TV? let us know what you mean here

"I prefer playing with a Dualshock3/4 on a 47" TV
than playing with Mouse & Keyboard on a 24" monitor.

PS4 ftw "
ZodTheRipper  +   335d ago
lol ... I'm tired of arguing really I've said everything twice now. Point is, gaming consoles are there for a reason and they've evolved a lot. The only argument for gaming on PC always was graphics, but we've reached a point where graphics can't get much better anymore even with highend PC's ...so I'm gaming primarily on the system that has my favourite games, and my favourite games in the last couple of years were mostly Playstation exclusives OR at least available on Playstation. So that's why I'm saying in the year 2013: console > PC
I would agree with you 5 years before but you know
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
My last bubble, good bye :P
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Lulz_Boat  +   335d ago
@Pisque

Bad hardware? lol
try harder
Pisque  +   335d ago
^^ The CPU is garbage, only 4.5 gb of RAM are available and the GPU is fine but not the greatest. My PC is better than this.
jlo  +   335d ago
I don't want to play on my TV because it's only 1080p and that's too low to resolution. 1080p was impressive in 2006, not 2013.

When I get a 4k tv, I will sure plug my PC into it to play 4k games. Because we all know neither console can power 4k games (or 1080p games, in this example). Embarrassing.
Bluepowerzz  +   334d ago
noob lel your dat 1kd play fo fun guy 24 inch is the way for actually doing well on the game
ATi_Elite  +   335d ago
I prefer using a KB/m on:
3 24" 3D monitors with peripheral view or
1 30" 1600p monitor or
3 42" TV's with Peripheral view.

To each his own but you Idiots and your "gaming from the couch CRAP"

Don't you morons realize that TV's come with HDMI, PC, DVI ports so you can EASILY connect a PC to them.

first flat screen TV i EVER saw had a PC connected to it.

Also MOTION JOY allows for ANY controller to be used on a PC......ANY controller!

ALSO Wireless KB/m Wireless input adapter I can game from any where, front yard, back yard, neighbors house while my PC sits in one spot and NEVER moves.

Some of you need to grow up and realize Technology has ADVANCED a lot since the days of 300 OHM Twin Lead connectors.
tee_bag242  +   335d ago
Lol so true. PC's have hooked up to TV's for decades now.
Anyway I wonder what the frame rate of BF4 is on the consoles - that's the biggest buzz kill that fanboys never want to talk about.
ThatCanadianGuy514  +   335d ago
Not that it's really THAT bad to begin with.Of course a console game won't match a fully maxed out PC version by comparison.Just IGN looking to stir up come flames.

However, DICE really shouldn't have any excuses for this.I mean, Killzone:SF is 1080P, 60FPS and absolutely stunning to see.That, and the fact they're offering all DLC for free may make KZ my go to FPS multiplayer at launch..
AlexanderNevermind  +   335d ago
I'm all in for KSF and BF4 but KSF is 12v12 max. BF4 is going for 32v32. Big difference with all those players running on the screen and trying to maintain 60fps. I'm sure they will get the console ports as close to PC specs as they can. Just know it won't ever match the ever evolving PC specs.
darx  +   335d ago
Killzone...tee hee
BallsEye  +   334d ago
you cant really compare killzone. Basicly no physics simulation. No destruction or tons of vehicles. This is very bad comparison.
Corpser  +   335d ago
But ps4 has 8gb of gddr5 and is a high end pc?
SpitFireAce85  +   335d ago
This is a 3rd party dev..lets wait and see first
party studios.
ZBlacktt  +   335d ago
Great to see intelligent people on here.
CalamityCB  +   335d ago
In terms of them specs they are no where near a high end PC, I'm really sure it's wont be as bad as what IGN have stated but it still wont match up to the full PC game.
Muerte2494  +   335d ago
I hate when PC gamers mistaken "high end" for "enthusiast" PC. Price/Performance ration is always on the side of consoles. PC usually brute force their way through games (zero optimization). PC gamers also leave V-Sync turned off to increase their FPS. You're paying over $500 for your Mobo/System RAM/GFX Gard/CPU/and HDD then you better run games better than a console. But you'll find it hard pressed to achieve the same results. PCI express will never be as fast as integrated memory chips.
black0o  +   335d ago
Killzone says hi
Silly gameAr  +   335d ago
Killzone looks pretty sick, but let's ignore that.
GDDR6_2014  +   335d ago
It's a different type of game, you cant exactly tell people that want to play 32v32 battlefield games to go play 12v12 kz games
darx  +   335d ago
@GDDR6

black0o is joking
BallsEye  +   334d ago
comparing kz to bf4 is like comparing those to forza. Completely different games , different ammount of simulation. objects etc etc. Hey forza run 1080p 60 FPS! So what??
General Shrooms  +   335d ago
vram and ram has little to do with graphic fidelity. Pc's have been able to produce better visuals with sub 2gb vram cards for years and still do today.
tee_bag242  +   335d ago
Yeah well it allows for higher resolution which at 1080p 2GB Vram is all that is needed..

Still... people get sold by big numbers in marketing
HammadTheBeast  +   335d ago
And this isrealpha game play. Enough said. KZ Shadowfall blows away any other MP shooter in graphics so far on all next Gen consoles.
Deadpoolio  +   335d ago
It's still better than the One80 hardware....And If it looks uninspiring on PS4, it will look worse on the One80...There have been NO games shown for XBO actually running on XBO, since it was confirmed that all games shown by MS were running on PCs running windows 7 and Nvidia graphics cards
Rhinoceros  +   335d ago
What was it that was said about Multiplats?
iamnsuperman  +   335d ago
This is clearly talking about the comparison between a PC and the PS4 version. No relevance to "what was it that was said about multiplats"

PC is DICE's bread and butter which is why they use it as the lead platform. Also a ultra PC (what is being used to show this) cost a lot more than a £350 PS4. I am not saying the PS4 will ever equal a ultra PC but it sounds like the demo was half finished
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swishersweets20031  +   335d ago
Should be noted the Pc version everyone is playing is running 4k resolution.
Another is the ps4 demo was running on a older dev kit. gamespot has said this.

Anybody who honestly thought a 500$ console is going to compare anywhere near a 1000$ pc is only fooling themselves.

Patrick Bach has already stated the game will run at 720p upscaled to 1080p at 60fps on multiplayer. The final version will be running on high-ultra settings.
People saying KZ is 1080p at 60fps and complaining what gives are forgetting they have a much smaller player count and not even a third of the effects, destruction ect going on.
Trago1337  +   335d ago
Which is why you should play the game on PC. Superior everything.
iamnsuperman  +   335d ago
Except us mere mortals cannot afford $1,000+ machines

edit: @below No but you do to play it at what they show us which highlights differences between the versions
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Trago1337  +   335d ago
My friend, you don't need 1000 dollars to run games at 1080p and 60 frames per second on a PC. That's a misinformed, ignorant, and straight up incorrect statement.
Codey47  +   335d ago
@ Trago1337

When people are talking about 4k and ultra settings that's exactly what that means...a 1000£$ + PC

If a game has recommended settings my advice is to double or even quadruple them to ascertain optimal visual fidelity at an acceptable framerate.
CalamityCB  +   335d ago
Since when did you need $1000 to have a PC that can run a game at 60 frames and 1080p, you've been misinformed my friend.
Mini0510  +   335d ago
LOL @ the choice of word, mortals
haha

By your logic, I probably can't afford to spend $1000 to buy a HDTV.

Speaking objectively, if i have a decent PC, I would upgrade my PC to play this. If I don't, but I do have a HDTV, then I would buy a next gen console.

If I have nothing, let's say i moved to a different city and sold everything, then it's preference.
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Silly gameAr  +   335d ago
I'm not playing crap on a PC because I'm not a PC gamer. Pretty sure there's other people that feel the same.
wishingW3L  +   335d ago
to play BF4 just as it looks in trailers you'll need a PC more powerful than most PC gamers own right now.
Master-H  +   335d ago
Superior price point for the system as well ,cheif.
aquamala  +   335d ago
should've seen this coming when they still demo the game on a pc with 2 Radeon 7970's
jjb1981  +   335d ago
I don't expect the ps4 to have high-end PC graphics. I do expect it to look a hell of a lot better than ps3.
Dlacy13g  +   335d ago
^^ This! Look, PC games set on Ultra High settings are always going to look sharper then their console counter parts. That said, the real question that needs to be asked is does the visual upgrades / gameplay upgrades to BF4 from PS3/360 to PS4/Xbox One feel like a true upgrade...I am willing to bet its going to feel like a significant upgrade and all the next gen console gamers will be more than happy.
Mirage749  +   335d ago
I feel like this is pure laziness on DICE's part. With the power these next generation consoles have, there should really be no reason for any game to run below 1080p 60fps.
Allsystemgamer  +   335d ago
They're not THAT powerful. The specs are low in PC standards.
Mirage749  +   335d ago
But they're not PCs. As much as people want to say how much like a PC they are, it's not the same. If 1080p with 60 fps was achievable on PS3, which is significantly less powerful than the PS4, what reason is there for it not happening here?
hobohunterz  +   335d ago
Yeah but even if you say they are "not that powerful" PC's with similar specs to the ps4 should be almost able to run these new games in 1080P 60FPS, so why shouldn't an optimized console be able to
Evilsnuggle  +   335d ago
Yes if killzone can pull off 1080p 60fps their is no Excuse for dice and killzone looks better than battleflied 4 . I don't care about tanks and planes Graphic wise killzone looks better than battleflied 4. Better lighting Better light effects than battleflied 4. Third-party developers are lazy or Specialize in PCs . Look at the last of us Look what Naughty dog did with 8 year old hardware PS4 will shine from First party developers.
BallsEye  +   334d ago
Same excuse as last gen you got. Lazy devs on ps3..
JunioRS101  +   335d ago
As long as it's 1080p 60fps I'll be satisfied.

But they better not skeet out on their promises.

Or there will be blood.

Too much for band-aids.
Avenger411  +   335d ago
LOL you made me laugh :)
inf3cted1  +   335d ago
Sorry. 1080p PC only.
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inf3cted1  +   335d ago
What updated story. I clicked the link and it still says "it was running at a resolution higher than 720p, but not 1080p"
KazHiraiFTW  +   335d ago
Absolutely no chance the console version will be running 1080p, 60fps, 64 players. Anyone who ever expected this is a delusional fanboy.
DomceM  +   335d ago
it could however run 1080p 35-45 FPS and 64 players.

GTX 480 can do that and the gpu in the ps4 is pretty similar capabilities wise. I think they'd be smart to just drop the FPS cap to a little lower...
KazHiraiFTW  +   335d ago
It wouldn't be 35-45 it would be capped at 30fps like every console game. During lots of action on screen it would regularly dip well below 30fps just like every console game. It will be a sub-par experience especially for a MP shooter. Also as IGN stated the graphics will be significantly worse than any of the demo videos seen to date.

Best just to go with PC for this one.
Avernus  +   335d ago
Honestly...judging graphics on games when they're not done. This is not even an xbox vs PS thing...this is a fanboy bait thing.

DICE already said the game still needs to optimize. Nah, but IGN wants the hits. They have ads to show people ;)
cyhm3112  +   335d ago
Microsoft doesn't allow PS4 to have better graphics, expect all EA multiplatorm games to look the same. Remember they have Titanfall as an exclusive?
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FrigidDARKNESS  +   335d ago
Don't blame MS for this. Dice is doing what they can with the hardware that is provided to them.
Hicken  +   335d ago
So when and if the XB1 version looks worse, will you still be saying "Don't blame MS?"
pyramidshead  +   335d ago
XB1 480p version confirmed.
ziggurcat  +   335d ago
no dice is doing whatever MS's money is telling them to do.

if the PS4 version is (for whatever reason) weaker, then that's a serious indication that EA is purposefully gimping the PS4 versions of their games because of the deal they've signed with MS.

there's no reason why a system that is more powerful, and arguably the easiest to develop for, shouldn't be exactly the same as the xbone version. if that happens to be the case, then i'm going to boycott all EA titles until they smarten up because there should be *zero* excuse this time around concerning the ease of development on the PS4.
Locknuts  +   335d ago
WTF? Seriously?
babis1974  +   335d ago
ifbf4 isn't 1080p and looks like s*** on ps4 then COD ghosts...
Gamesgbkiller  +   335d ago
Its alpha so there is time to improve on that.
vigilante_man  +   335d ago
Like everything else we will read in the next few months, just wait until we actually see them for ourselves...
Avenger411  +   335d ago
Whatever they say about consoles, i'd like to point out that the BF Franchise has practicly always been a PC game then ported to consoles etc... Rare that we see that but it's nice for us PC gamers to have the upper hand sometimes when consoles has had it for manyyyyyy games for the last 5 years :) i say thanks dice
gamewizard99  +   335d ago
I feel sorry for people playing on the Xbox One then..
FrigidDARKNESS  +   335d ago
BF4 confirmed 1080p 60fps on xb1 as stated by Dice at the MS e3 press conference and an xb1 dev kit was used to run the game at ea e3 press conference.
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Metfanant  +   335d ago
lets see that confirmation of 1080p 60fps on Xbone...

:::crickets:::
Deadpoolio  +   335d ago
Yeah NO...They are targeting 1080p on both consoles and have it running at 60fps...Never did they state that it would for sure be 1080p....Not that anyone actually knows what the One80 version looks like since everything for every game MS has shown were running on Windows 7 PCs with Nividia graphics cards, even though their console is designed with AMD and runs on Windows 8....IF the PS4 version supposedly looks bad the One80 with weaker hardware will look worse
ziggurcat  +   335d ago
no. and it crashed while running on xbone, so they switched to PC, but i guess you conveniently forgot about that, didn't you...
ziggurcat  +   335d ago
provide proof that BF4 will run 1080p @ 60fps on xbone.

you have a knack for making outlandish claims without providing an ounce of proof (even when asked to provide said proof).

if you won't/can't then you'll get nothing but -1 bubbled, and marked for trolling.
boing1  +   335d ago
Xbox one is worse than PS4. Do the math.
wishingW3L  +   335d ago
This is why I pre-ordered the Killzone bundle instead of Battlefield's. All these cross-gen releases like Ghosts, BF4 and Watchdogs will look like crap on the PS4 compared to full fledged next-gen releases like Killzone and inFamous.
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ninjagoat  +   335d ago
Thing is for console its still gonna be a massive step up from Ps3 xbox360 and that's the step people where wanting in all honesty.

I don't get where people think they can have visuals that blow away a £500 graphics card. Its meant to be a console war isn't it.

I'll be well happy with what BF4 looks like on the PS4 when i get it but at the same time I'll be well happy with my PC version i play clan play on. There's a place for fun for me and a play for my serious face.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   335d ago
Did you guys see that xbox one version.?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (wait, hasn't been shown yet)
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mwjw696  +   335d ago
It was running the single player demo shown at MS E3 event....
sAVAge_bEaST  +   335d ago
yes it was, on a Nvidia GTX 700
Ju  +   335d ago
Including "backspace" pedal ;) LOL
Metfanant  +   335d ago
yeahhhhhh....no it wasnt
BossGamerKnowsBest  +   335d ago
I don't know about battlefield 4 but if you want the FULL battlefield experience then it's best to just get it on PC
GDDR6_2014  +   335d ago
Console gamers are used to muddy low resolution graphics, this is fine for them next gen
Belking  +   335d ago
This just confirms the xbox-one version is better. It supports DX11.2 Boy, that 50% more powerful hardware has really been showing lately...lol The fanboys will go crazy over this.
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FrigidDARKNESS  +   335d ago
Xb1 and pc version will be identical. For the folks saying Dice won't show the xb1 version go to youtube there are plenty videos that shows it running at 1080p 60fps.

http://www.thesixthaxis.com...

"Just got confirmation from Lars in an interview... BF4 on PS4 runs at 720p upscaled to 1080p and solid 60 fps."

XB1 --> 1080p

As we know EA said both 60fps but not hinted about the resolution
but PS4 confirmed by many link as 720p, so we know that X1 is 1080p
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inf3cted1  +   335d ago
Im pretty sure my high end PC is not identical to an average end console.

http://www.cinemablend.com/...

Unless they were using PCs..
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pyramidshead  +   335d ago
http://n4g.com/news/1339326...
Wrong again Frigy
Nice try though.
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Metfanant  +   335d ago
they didnt play the game on xbone dev kits...the game is being shown on PC's running significantly stronger setups than the consoles...

i want to see this proof of the Xbone running at 1080p60

the only console version that has been shown is the PS4 version...they wont even show the Xbone version...i wonder why?
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DomceM  +   335d ago
@frigid... keep dreaming.
ziggurcat  +   335d ago
the article you linked says nothing about the xbone version being native 1080p resolution @ 60fps.

down bubbled, and marked for trolling.
14Feb-R  +   334d ago
WTH with the people in this article o.o

Let's say the ps4 will get a crap version of BF4 ( even though DICE said they didn't optimised it yet) , how the hell did you get the information that X1 will get a better version -.- . No source , no reason , DX almost = OpenGL. How the hell did it make the X1 50% more powerful , first the cloud and now DX >.<

first comparing almost identical versions of this generation games and now comparing unfinished games -.- . Media smarter then gamers , they fool everyone to get hits. Just enjoy what we all gonna get.
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SharnOfTheDEAD  +   335d ago
Well this is depressing.
GraveLord  +   335d ago
Rushed next-gen launch games not pushing technical limitations!? Who would've thunk it? DICE is probably having a hard enough time getting the PS3/360 versions to even work.
XboxFun  +   335d ago
But didn't Sony say Battlefield runs and looks great on the PS4?

http://n4g.com/news/1338391...

Now I'm confused...who's telling the truth here?

I think everyone should just calm down. The game isn't released yet and there is still time for the devs to get this game looking right!
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windblowsagain  +   335d ago
Oh come on.

I love BF3, but the biggest difference between bf3 and bf4 is water/physics, buildings falling. and some other slight upgrades.

Commanders are back from bf2. Which is the best thing.
KontryBoy706  +   335d ago
I moved to PC in August 2012 BF3 is like night and day on PC compared to console. People please stop expecting BF4, or most games for that matter, to be maxed out like on a PC. I'm not sure where the idea came from, probably the media, but it needs to die a quick painful death. You can't expect a $400/$500 machine to outperform or perform on the same level as PCs with gfx cards in them that are more expensive than consoles and the actual card is half the size of a console too. It's just not smart to think that. The media wants this console vs PC war just like Sony vs Microsoft. it's all marketing. Be happy there are new consoles coming that will give you much higher graphical fidelity than previous gen. These consoles are going to be MUCH more powerful than the PS3/360... but not near a gaming PC.
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DomceM  +   335d ago
finally someone gets it. Some people are just too hopeful... or believe that devs can magically do anything if they put enough time and effort into it. There are limits to everything.
14Feb-R  +   334d ago
True that PC is more powerful but consoles games at least at launch must look identical , BF4 didn't use all the power of the ps4 and x1 . If it's not identical then it's developers fault. Your talk can be applied to consoles after 2 or 3 years from now after they max out the consoles..

Consoles war , comparing almost identical versions of games are media invention to get hits , so far gamers have been falling for it , people need to grow up here and get over this. They fight over one version darker then the other -.- . Comparing should be between at least one developers side , what the hell would i get from comparing the lightning in one game then the other. -.-

Now they compare unfinished games , ign suuucks ..
KontryBoy706  +   334d ago
games at launch will NOT look identical to gaming PCs, and no one should expect them to. Maybe identical to each other as in XB1/PS4 though. That's why it came out that the BF4 demos at E3 were running on super computers. Remember the article that said "this is the pc that will be used to run BF4"? That PC had 2 AMD 7990s in crossfire in it just those cards alone are $700 each. Those cards have been out since earlier this year, old now. That's not counting everything else that was in that computer. A machine like that is capable of running BF4 in resolutions MUCH higher than 1080p and with 4 monitors or more at once if the person wanted to. We are talking about running the games above 120fps too not 60fps, at the highest graphical settings possible. That type of stuff just isn't possible for console and that's not a fanboyish thing to say... it's just factual. I expect PS4/XB1 to run the game on medium settings 1080p at 60fps or high settings 720p at 60fps, but scaled down without all PC graphics enhanced to maximum. That's idealistic for consoles and very good IMO.
KontryBoy706  +   334d ago
They won't look identical to a gaming PC even 5 to 6 years later. PCs continue to evolve a console is where it is and that's it. People are still saying things like "well Crysis 1 came to consoles and looked great". That's true it did look great. But back in 2007 there were PCs around running Crysis 1 at 1080p 60fps on maximum. There were people with good enough PCs to install additional graphics mods that made the game even look MORE realistic than it was intended to. Unfortunately the PS3/360 ran Crysis below 720p below 30fps.
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14Feb-R  +   334d ago
Most of the things you said are right but i'm still not convinced that battlefield videos won't be possible in next generation.

I for one think they are using that high end pc just so that they don't have any problem running it and they still not used to the next consoles or they have some kind of problem with the dev kits or they still didn't optimised the consoles versions yet because they are focusing on pc first then port it.

It is always a positive thing when developers say we maxed out the ps4 with "game name" , so why didn't they say that if it's not possible ?.

Games are always made with consoles in mind , even the best pc games. That's why developers don't max the consoles in the first years. Look at the witcher 3 , did they say the pc will have better version ?. Did battlefield 4 developers said that too ?. The only ones that said it are call of duty developers XD . I'm not downrating the PC , i'm just saying that launch games should have no problem to bring anything they want even 1080p with 60fps. No one used the full power yet. And when they do i will be glad since PC will benefit from the easy developing on both consoles so pc will be always lead platform if developers want it then simply port with downgrade .

Best answer is to wait until we have BF4 in our ps4's and pc then judge it . What we say are not 100% facts ^^ . either of us could be wrong :P
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dethpuck  +   335d ago
Bf3 ran like crap on ps3 even after numerous patches. I'm sticking with x1 on this one. It might not be the prettiest experience out there but all my friend will be on there and that is what is most important
BLow  +   335d ago
How about we wait until the final build comes out. Just a thought. Didn't know the games had to look and run perfect before it comes out. The Internet can be a blessing and a curse.
PiperMCFierceson  +   334d ago
Final build!? ... Its almost a month away the improvements will be minor.
stuff  +   334d ago
3+ months away for PS4/Xbone versions which means plenty more time for polishing.
BLow  +   333d ago
Wow, really? Thanks for the input game developer. What company do you work for? It must be Dice since you claim it will only be minor. Thanks for the heads up.
PiperMCFierceson  +   333d ago
No ignorant game article commentator its been in development for years and its in its beta stages . its only common sense that it will not be much better maybe smoother but not on par with PC. Don't be an ass.
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