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Stop Releasing Sports Games

CCC says: Alright, I’m going to just come right out and say it: All these year-to-year sports games are just a huge cash grab. These annual releases are holding back sports-game development in some pretty profound ways. It would be better off for the entire sports gaming genre if all of these individual sports games just died.

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slimeybrainboy3959d ago

As per usual games journalists consistently know sero point zero about sports games.

"Then, monthly, the game updates itself with a fresh set of stats for every player. This will provide a kind of immersion that will link the game with the real world. Has your favorite basketball player been missing shots lately? Then he will do the same in the game. Has a team’s roster changed up because one of their star players had an injury? The game’s roster will update to reflect that."

This has been happening in NBA 2K for years now, FIFA too. This guy knows nothing. I don't play Madden but they probably even do it too.

I play NHL, NBA 2K, and FIFA every year, and games journalism just knows nothing about sports games it's embarrassing.
The same every year? This generation we've seen the take off of the biggest game mode in sports Ultimate Team, 360 degree control, control schemes completely change, dynamic animations, momentum, so much more major changes. Shooters just have to make sure that with the left stick you move, and the right stick you aim. Think of AI in sports games. they have to basically recreate human intelligence, of course they are not at that level yet so they have to spend so much time designing ways to mask and balance things. It's just easily the hardest, yet they get the same wrap every year from people who barely even play the games.

Maddens Raiders3958d ago (Edited 3958d ago )

^^ This is all true. The thing with Madden though is that the license partnership w/ the NFL needs to come to a swift end with EA. Give someone else a shot at it like SMS, 2K, or even Konami. Hell, it's been nearly 23 years and EA has still, yet to manage a decent crowd and sideline presence in the biggest and most heavily funded sport in the States.

It may sound trivial to some but it's a huge part of the immersion and "true to life" simulation that this title claims and wants to be: "If it's in the game, it's in the game," exclaims the announcer after popping the disc into your console and firing up Madden. Errrm not so fast there EA because there's a lot that's not in your signature game. A lot that you're not including and simply milking this thing for the cash cow it is. Where are the water boys, the doctors, all the assistants and physical therapists?

Where's the on field announcers and trash particles blowing across the field on a windy day? Where are all the towels that players stuff into their pants to keep their hands and arms dry, especially wide receivers and quarterbacks? Why do all of the players on the sideline nearly look identical and why do they all have the same animation at exactly the same time - every time? It's the little things EA... the little things that you fail to implement because of your own hubris, laziness, and reliability on a captive addicted audience to the annual release of your Madden titles.

Not only that but EA nickels and dimes you for every little thing now which used to be free back in the day like the All-Madden teams or the "Greatest Year" teams which used to be part of the game straight away. It's all about the money and greed now with EA. I really cannot stand their company's ethos and will not support them in this regard until they change things in wholesale fashion. Not holding my breath!

HxCGamer3958d ago

AMEN @slimey ...
most "true gamers and journalists" who frequent sites like N4G are just simply not interested in sports. So they bash sports games.
I personally play everything, but when I get bored of a game I ALWAYS go back to playing FIFA.

Yearly release is important to me.

slimeybrainboy3958d ago

Exactly. That's why I hate when journo's act like they know or even care about sports games. And people on IGN or N4G. You have to go to FIFA Soccer Blog to get the views of actual sports gamers, and what needs to be changed.

Jagsrock3959d ago

It sounds good in theory but it's not gonna happen and it probably wouldn't work as smoothly as you think it would. You mentioned A LOT of DLC(some of which i'm not even sure would be possible) which would most likely not be free translating to us pretty much spending the same amount if not more. We could very we'll end up paying more knowing EA and the way they do business, more things will be left out to add later as DLC for $5. Stuff you would have gotten before.

Ideally if they were to go this route. They would implement a season pass time thing for $20 extra(probably more) that would provide all updates and dlc for the off year but that's wishful thinking.

Price wise it really wouldn't benefit consumers and could make for an even more watered down product. Despite games like Madden which have been stagnant in some areas it has improved and there are publishers like 2k which are doing an excellent job. Going all DLC is a dangerous road to go down.

Godlovesgamers3959d ago

"CCC says: Alright, I’m going to just come right out and say it..."

No, CCC, I'm just going to come right out and say it. NOBODY GIVES A DAMN ABOUT YOUR SELF IMPORTANT OPINION PIECES.

Slow news day are NOT an excuse to push out schlock journalism which you seem so content to do. Start putting some real thought and time into your articles instead of just posting glorified facebook rants on why you don't think "this" or "that" is good or bad for the gaming industry, which you are clearly on the outside of to begin with.

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strigoi8143958d ago

Sports games give you variety if you are bored of playing same old same..i play my sports game when i really get bored of what im playing and tired of shooting at people..the only thing for me on sports game is the fact that i have to buy another one every year just to see a different roster, if only they can give me one that will last for like at least 2 years

HxCGamer3958d ago

you clearly don't play enough to know that games like fifa update the roster and stats weekly..

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15 Great Games Where Every Minute of the Experience Feels Earned

GB: "We take a look at 15 amazing games that had the perfect length."

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coolbeans3d ago

Pretty good list. Botany Manor would be the newest addition that encapsulates that title.

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Anyone else not blown away with graphics these days? Me neither

Talal writes: "I'm talking about having that rush of excitement - that feeling you get when you know you've just made a memory for a lifetime."

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OptimusDK7d ago

There are different games. Some have gamplay at it highest priority, some have the story, some have the replay value and choices... There are a lot of different game experiences.

It is laughable that just now graphics does not have anything to do with that experiene. We have had many games of that type over time. This is just the one that have come closest to feel like playing an actual movie. Just look the the Digital foundry walkthrough it is a masterpiece in that perspective and hence wrth trying. But yes do not do it for the gameplay - but that was never the goal of this experience.

GamerRN6d ago

It's because it's on Xbox. When Xbox has amazing graphics, they don't matter. When PlayStation does, it's a game changer!

Lightning776d ago

Pretty much my thoughts. They were technical marvel's on PS and still are. The moment Xbox puts out a graphically intense game is doesn't matter suddenly.

4 years ago this month would the UE5 tech demo debut with the girl flying (tech demo said it was only possible on PS5 because of the SSD. Glad to finally see it in its glory.

fr0sty6d ago

FFS, gaming journalism has really gone downhill. At least hire people with a basic grasp of grammar... "Me neither" means the exact opposite of what the "author" is trying to say. That's like saying "I could care less"... lol.

S2Killinit6d ago

Maybe because the gameplay being dull allowed it to have the amazing graphics and people are not as impressed by graphics alone anymore? I mean there is a lot of sites saying the story and the gameplay are lackluster. So what are we supposed to enjoy then? Cgi graphics are beautiful but since they arent interactive, they dont impress me as much as they used to. Thats an extreme example, but you get my drift.

Terry_B6d ago

When Playstation (Sony) does it..its usually a great game and not a cinematic experience..or at least something new at the time..like Until Dawn back in 2015.

1Victor6d ago

@gamer:” It's because it's on Xbox. When Xbox has amazing graphics, they don't matter. When PlayStation does, it's a game changer!”

The game looks as good as any other PlayStation game in my eyes why can’t you and the other hardcore Xbox be happy about it and drag PlayStation into every conversation and force PlayStation hardcore to look into the game and find flaw that most games have in one way or another.
@light: “ 4 years ago this month would the UE5 tech demo debut with the girl flying (tech demo said it was only possible on PS5 because of the SSD. ”
Yes at that time it was only possible on PlayStation SSD how ignorant of you to think that after 4 years the technology wouldn’t evolved and move to a industry standard 🤦🏿I wish your mentality wasn’t so naive and narrow to post stuff like that 😩 in a year or 2 a new game will come out that might look better, it’s the nature of the industry.

Now that the distraction is gone I feel that is a good thing that the graphics in games are starting to hit the rooftop and hopefully the developers will put more thoughts into story and gameplay mechanics than just the next shiny oily skin of old.

Reaper22_6d ago

So true. Not surprised by all the negativity. It's a really good game and looks better than any game I've ever seen. GOTY nominee for sure. Like I said before, sony screwed up big time by not purchasing Ninja Theory.

Asplundh6d ago

Pretty much. It's like how the Switch and Steam controller using haptic feedback in their controllers wasn't a big deal but then Sony did it and it was then a "game changer".

fr0sty6d ago

The game runs at as low as 21fps... That isn't much to brag about no matter how good it looks.

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MajorLazer6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

We've had graphical gamechangers before, such as Crysis but those games still had gameplay to compliment it. Hellblade pretty much has none, and only achieved such graphics through being incredibly linear and having very small, closed off environments where very little is happening.

Vx_6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

GFX does not mean anything if the game is boring. It is simple like that and these major companies need to understand this simple concept.

Games are like your lady, she may be beautiful to look at for a while but then it gets boring if her character isn't interesting and fun to be with.

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Kneetos7d ago

Mario kart 8 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Sonic18817d ago

Horizon forbidden West has great graphics and great gameplay

GamerRN6d ago

Yeah but graphics don't matter, remember?

anast6d ago

@RN

I've been pretty consistent in saying that we need both.

GamerRN4d ago

So until dawn, too human, or whatever those series of games were... Graphic masterpieces it garbage with no gameplay?

VincentVanBro6d ago

I agree and I actually think Forbidden West looks better than Hellblade 2. I easily prefer looking at it at least.

Sonic18816d ago

It does look better in my opinion as well. I don't know why it looks better but there's something about the Decima engine or that guerrilla games is using tricks that we don't know of

Abear216d ago

Can you fly a mount under water in Hellblade 2? I think not! One of the best moments this Gen

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Two Decades Later, the Original Splinter Cell is Still a Masterpiece

They don't make games like this anymore.

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vgvill15d ago

Too dated in my book. The AI is way too unpredictable to be acceptable today. It's definitely a game of its time.

Jingsing15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Agreed with those sentiments. The quality of the CPU controlled characters make or break a stealth game and they are pretty poor in all the Splinter Cell games by today's standard. This is what led me to playing Spies vs Mercs all the time in later games just to get a better stealth experience from a real person. Arguably Sony are making better stealth games albeit not Tom Clancy stuff.

TheProfessional15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

You should stick with fortnite or one of the countless bloodborne style games then. What a joke.

rlow115d ago

I had a good time with the game. It is a product of its time. But when it came out it was a must have game for a lot of people. I wish Ubisoft would make another game in the series or at least a reboot.

vgvill15d ago

They are making a remake, I think. I loved the original game when it was released, but I tried to play it again in recent years and just couldn't get on with it. The same with the older Hitman games.

PrecursorOrb15d ago

Yeah chaos theory still holds up though I gotta say. If you’re a fan of the series I highly suggest you go back to that one. Ubi has said they are remaking sc for “modern audiences”. I don’t have a lot of faith for the future of that company

Chocoburger14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Due to the lack of modern stealth games, and me constantly playing the MGS series, I've been looking for alternative stealth games to play, and went back and re-played the SC series recently. I wouldn't call SC1 or SC:PT masterpieces, there are AI issues, they're very much trial-and-error games, and that can lead to a lot of frustration. I also found the stories in this series to be boring, uninteresting, and just sloppily told. Cinematics are also of poor quality for both in-game scenes and CG cut-scenes, the soundtrack didn't leave any impression on me either.

Chaos Theory is better, but there was still a lot of room for improvement, and Double Agent (old gen ver.) was a sloppy mess that ended up a regression from CT. But still, at least they tried back then, these days Ubi-junk doesn't even try to make good games!

HvNzSoul6d ago

Everyone needs to quit with all of the unnessacery Ubi-hate. SC Conviction and Blacklist are both still good games.

HvNzSoul6d ago

Everyone needs to quit with all of the unnecessary Ubi-hate. SC Conviction and Blacklist are both still good games, they just weren't 100% focused on stealth with Conviction and they remedied that in Blacklist. The only thing they have released recently that I was disappointed with was Watch Dogs Legion, and Skull & Bones. Everyone seems to be salty about the misleading trailer for the original Watch Dogs and The Division. Which are also, both good games, and actually Watch Dogs seems like it was ahead of its time even with all the trailer drama (having gone back and played recently, can say the game didnt deserve all the flak). Yeah the misleading E3 trailer that had better graphics than release is understandable to a very small degree, when most Teaser Trailers, or Game Demo's only have that portion of the game developed so they use the highest quality assets of w/e they have being showed, or what they are showing was made purely for the showing, allowing for extra polish . As to the gripes about minor game design changes, or cut features upon a games release just goes to show how unknowledgeable most gamers are in terms of how game development works or to even understand what what the hell a WIP, let alone titles still in early development.

Good games from Ubi since 2014 (Year that SC Blacklist Released) include:

Watch Dogs 1 & 2
The Division 1 & 2 (Although I had a hard time getting into The Division 2 at first)
R6 Siege
Ghost Recon Wildlands & Breakpoint
Immortals Fenyx Rising
AC Origins, Odyssey, MIrage (Haven't finished Valhalla games too damn long)
Far Cry Primal, and 5 (6 also has a length issue)
Avatar Frontiers of Pandora
Prince Of Persia The Lost Crown

Haven't played a couple of titles those being For Honor (played at launch but didn't honestly give it an actual go), The Crew, R6 Extraction and at the time of writing this xDefiant.

Even if you absolutely hated any of the above titles, they aren't inherently bad games, they're just good, but not always top quality either.

I say give Ubi credit where credit is due, they at least fix games post launch if they start out rough, Breakpoint is an excellent example this and is such an enjoyable experience now compared to it's launch.