PES 2014 to skip PS4 and Xbox One due to 'install base issue'

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GribbleGrunger3936d ago

This is ridiculous. I remember a time when devs realised it was up to them to help make a console popular but now it seems devs want a console to be popular before they support it.

abzdine3936d ago

what a stupid thinking from Konami!
So what they're saying is they're gonna be a year late in terms of performance with PES because no PES before 2014 on next gen? This is ridiculous!

I am not planning to buy the broken FIFA once again due to next gen EA prices and zero improvements and i was counting on a next gen PES coming out soon. Well guess what, Konami PES team just disappointed me once again.

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3-4-53936d ago

You guys are all missing the point. Soccer is worldwide and more popular everywhere other than the US.

The rest of the world still is going to use this gen hardware for a while. It always takes them a bit longer to adapt to the new gen hardware.

This means you can keep putting out Soccer games on older hardware and having them sell really well.

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THamm3936d ago

This is actually a good thing. Look at the recent past console release sports games, watered down and just graphically superior crap. So waiting a year for a game to take advantage of hardware is good. Plus it looks like it's going to be a heck of a game on current gen with excellent visuals as well

iamnsuperman3936d ago

"The fan base is with the current gen, and before moving on we want to make a good game with the new engine"

Seems more like they spent a lot of time developing it for current systems and didn't expect a new system to release so early

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NYC_Gamer3936d ago

I don't think Konami have the funds to do both like EA does

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Baka-akaB3936d ago

I doubt they dont have the funds . Thing is the ps4/xb1 versions would be the same with an higher resolution most likely , and they didnt felt like doing that , unlike say ... EA.

Especially when trying it to regain the favor of its public .
If they did that they'd lynched , despite imo a game that looks more gorgeous than what was shown of fifa 14 next gen so far .

Damned indeed ...

dragonyght3936d ago (Edited 3936d ago )

they did the same thing last time that's how the lost the crown to EA who were able to release 2 fifas on ps3 and 360 while PES was the ps2 and xbox ,they end up playing catch up this gen . look like konami don't have any attention on taking the crown back

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jizzyjones3936d ago

Its a shame because next gen fifa has zero competition now, I would of probably got PES over fifa this too

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mcstorm3936d ago

I still think they are missing a trick by not making a Wiiu version as there is no fifa this year on the console and there are so far 4 million customers that could pickup this game on the Wiiu. Im one of them as im not getting fifa on my xbox one this year.

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mcstorm3936d ago

Lol at the disagrees.

slimeybrainboy3936d ago

I wish PES would get it together, they act like a B title so they get treated like one.

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mafiahajeri3936d ago

Excited to see ignite engine on next gen as far as PES they played their cards wrong...

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Ggame3936d ago

Hell !!
Don't you need at least trying to run your new engine on new-gen platforms rather afraid you not get enough money much you fund it?

sway_z3936d ago

The past years have favoured Fifa anyway...no major loss here.

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mushroomwig3936d ago

I hope this attitude doesn't spread to other publishers and developers.

Africa-Garvey3936d ago

murphy, please kindly port it,
it will sell very well on wii u, pes is Nintendo's favourite back in the iss days till now.
Also it would be easy to port since the wii u architecture is similar to the ps360, and the game will still Look better as the
wii u is slightly powerful than the ps360

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Animal Mutha 763936d ago

Not surprised. The first round of games almost need to be MS first party or funded in some way as any other big title developer will only release where they can guarantee return/profit.

That's the problem with modern big games. They cost to much in development to be risked on a new/small user base.

Melankolis3936d ago

Installer base may not be the "real" issue here. The real issues are :
- The release date of PES (usually Q3) is almost near the launch of PS4/X1, so expect the tight competition of which games people buy during the launch.
- PS4/X1 launch only confirmed (until now) for NA/Euro, where the gamers usually prefer Fifa

So, maybe the effort for porting (and -don't forget-localizing) PES for X1/PS4 may not be worth for the moment.

Spontogical3936d ago

Cop out.

We all know, Konami. No need to hide it. :)

Africa-Garvey3936d ago

Please Murphy & co. (dev), the Wii U has close to 4 million installed base.
FACT: PES franchise always out-sell their FIFA counterpart on Nintendo's console.

ghoh13936d ago

what the hell pes??? so basically they handed the next generation to fifa, well at least for 2014

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Konami admits PES 2014 was only 'half done', PES 2015 to release 'when it's ready'

Konami has admitted that its focus on visuals for last year's PES 2014 damaged the final product, leading to a game that was only "half done" and "extremely unhappy" fan feedback.

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Geobros3581d ago

Every year the same thing by Konami...

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UltimateMaster3581d ago

Konami admits PES 2014 was only 'half done', PES 2015 to release 'when it's ready'

Huhh, it's a sports game.
It's not like they're going to delay it until 2016..
They have one year to get it right.

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3-4-53581d ago

Less features in PES 2014 than normal, you can tell, but the gameplay is by far the best I've ever played for a soccer game.

I'm in my 5th season and I'm still seeing goals, and touches,tricks& animations that are ALL NEW.

Never had 2 games even close to similar either, & the ball physics is the best it's ever been in any sports games.

They got a lot right here, but in return, they cut a lot of meat from the Manager Mode, which was missed.

Training young talent was more difficult than ever and it taking 4-6 years from players to improve 4-5 points is just stupid.

Other than that, I LOVE this game.

Can't wait for PES 2015.

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3-4-53581d ago

Yea because Donkey Kong Country games are all so different right? c'mon grumpy

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Geobros3581d ago

I am playing Konami football games from the Arcade era and I am still playing, I appreciate Pro Evoltuion series but I don't find the so good today as the first 4 games of the series on PS2. I think Konami followed Fifa road...

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scotmacb3581d ago

They should of just tweaked pes 2013 awesome game and it looked better than 2014.pes2013 with next gen gfx's please

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gamernova3581d ago

That's why I stick to FIFA.

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iistuii3581d ago

Yep me too. My PES days died along with the last decent game they released in PES6. Fifa took over whist they stood still & they have been getting a kicking ever since.

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kiwipunk3581d ago (Edited 3581d ago )

what visuals?

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smolinsk3581d ago

Yes pes 2013 was great, totally they should just have used 2013 as a guideline for 2014 and 2015, how can you trust konami now, same thing year after year, they say allot of fancy words and then its just worse

snookiegamer3581d ago (Edited 3581d ago )

I know this may come across as superficial...but I always preferred the feel of PES. But I'm lured over to Fifa because I cannot stand to play without full licensing.

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iceman063581d ago

Not really. That's your preference. Many people have done the same thing over the years. I used to play them both when they were on differing release rotations. Now, it's up to the demo to determine which one I buy. (or I stick to an alternating schedule if I feel that they are both good).

cfc833581d ago (Edited 3581d ago )

Im willing to skip fifa 15 if pes brings it this time. At least they acknowledge previous faults.

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demonicale3581d ago

They admit that 2014 PES was "half done" how does that fill me and everyone else with confidence about PES 2015? BAD PR!

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Baka-akaB3581d ago

What does it change ? Everyone knows it was not even half done . Ignoring it and lying about it , among other lies they keep telling is insulting , and worse that pretending everything was A-OK

Mr_Danski3581d ago

I will be going with FIFA 15, although it has to be said, props to konami admitting it was a shoddy game last year. Hope they deliver this time round.

iceman063581d ago

Anybody who played PES 2014 could tell that it just didn't have enough time. It lacked the responsiveness and fluidity necessary to be close to finished. That being said, it also had some hints towards what the future of PES could be like, IF they get it right.
My hope is that it was just the devs grappling with the new engines. Much like FIFA was a bit of a mixed bad when they introduced the Ignite engine into the game, I think that the Fox engine combined with the MASS engine might have been a bigger task than first expected. Especially considering that the Fox engine was designed with the current generation in mind. Hopefully, they get it right and return to the solid gameplay that they were once known for. As of right now, PES 2013 is as close as they have ever come to that.

iistuii3581d ago

I don't personally think the ignite engine on Fifa 14 was a mixed bag. I think it's a great game on PS4 & the added touched they are making for Fifa 15 looks to be an even better experience. We need Konami to keep pushing as competition is what has made Fifa the game it is today. PES was always IMO a better game, but give Fifa it's due, it kept pushing eventually destroying PES in everything from licenses to sales. Whilst PES stood still Fifa pushed on ahead. Let's hope for a good PES this year, but I won't hold my breath

iceman063581d ago

If I'm not mistaken, Ignite actually was introduced on the 2013 version of FIFA. However, by FIFA 14, it was actually integrated very well. FIFA 15 looks to continue this momentum in the best ways possible. That being said, while FIFA has all the licenses and sales, it sometimes felt a bit scripted. (which has gotten better over the years) There was something different about the feel of PES. It felt a bit more random (don't know if that's the word that I'm looking for) and less predictable.
As I said, I have fully supported FIFA in the past, as I have with PES, and I just really want competition to keep pushing the sport forward...regardless of which game does it. My hope is that PES presents actual competition, from a game play standpoint. But, I am also keenly aware of the fact that it just might not happen.

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totalrecoilzz3581d ago

*lets be honest here both fifa and pes in the last few years have sucked and neither were worthy of purchasing..now what i do know is if pes catches the magic of the early years everyone will play pes because it will just be the bETTER GAME but thats only if they capture the MAGIC!!