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Submitted by yarbie1000 960d ago | opinion piece

Xbox One Winning on Multiplayer Features?

Now that Microsoft has established a set of policies that are identical to Playstation 4′s DRM and Used game policy, we can now begin to compare and highlight features that stand out for each console. It is hard to argue with the fact that Xbox Live has been a very popular service for millions of gamers throughout the years.

The service that moved a connected community forward is getting a lot better with the next gen Xbox One. (Xbox LIVE, Xbox One)

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The_Infected  +   960d ago | Well said
Sony hasn't said much about their multiplayer features yet so how is Xbox One winning exactly?
FrigidDARKNESS  +   960d ago | Well said
With cod ghosts and bf4 coming they would have talked about their multiplayer system by now..

Awesome stuff for xbox one online multiplayers.
iGAM3R-VIII  +   960d ago | Well said
"with cod ghosts coming" LOOL I stopped reading your comment there knowing the rest of it might be unreal...

ANYWAY if any of you people actually looked at the article, you would realise this N4G changed the title massively so the title is quite different. It mentions nothing about the X1 having better multiplayer features, the user is just trying to fish for hits.

And we have little known about the PS4's multiplayer features so until we know a fair enough about both, we cannot compare the two...
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iGAM3R-VIII  +   960d ago | Well said
To add to my comment:

So when this article was initially posted to N4G, the title was "Xbox One Winning on Multiplayer Features". Now if you clicked on the article, the article inital title was "Xbox One Multiplayer Features: Dedicated Servers – Smart Match – TRD" which was the same as the video the user had pasted. Now when I reported it saying to use original title, he had actually hanged the title on the actual website, (the following link is a cached page which shows my evidence on the change http://webcache.googleuserc... just paste the url in)so that the "Xbox One Winning on Multiplayer Features" title was actually right. Therefore he posted the title as a fishing for link title. Why do you think the video is the same title as the REAL title. Also why do you think the URL is , hence the same title as I had told him to use.

Anyway this article says nothing about the X1's features being better, it just says its features. Even if he did say it is better, he didn't even compare the two. Infact if you search for a the word 'winnning' or 'better' on this page, there is NOTHING.

And to add, if he DID compare, the PS4 would have better online features since the no PS+ requirement for cross game chat, better value, gaikai, and other features
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abzdine  +   960d ago
multiplayer depends on the game developer. If they decide to put more things into it they will do it.
i personaly prefer a powerful console with lots of great single player games.
If you look at PS3 there is MAG which has no equivalent on consoles when you see how many players it can manage on the same map.

And if some of you have watched the UI for PS4 you will see that many things are possible while playing online.
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TomOfAllTrades  +   960d ago
Awesome? How is having the 2 most generic shooters in the world awesome? We've seen NOTHING which gives MS an advantage in terms of on-line gaming, all that they've demonstrated is that you can play on-line.... How do you know that Son'y Gaikai, won't wipe the floor with MS this gen?

Stop presuming...
JokesOnYou  +   960d ago | Well said
"Sony hasn't said much about their multiplayer features yet so how is Xbox One winning exactly?"

-Kratos, Actually they have they talked about finally have cross game chat, they talked about share button, taking over a friends game remotely and some Gaikai stuff all of which X1 has plus more....and cross game chat is a perfect example that usually(not always) if you're not promoting something it usually means you dont have it, not that you do.

DEDICATED SERVERS for all games is a huge win for me, mutiplayer really exploded on consoles last gen (360/ps3) with almost every game now having multiplayer to increase its longevity/value= dedicated servers is the final piece that has micrsofts online service setting the GOLD standard for the competition to follow once again! XBL just keeps getting better.
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morganfell  +   960d ago
With the current generation, the PS3 easily led the 360 in dedicated servers. Now with no evidience to support his claim that Sony will not move 100% to dedicated side the writer makes an ASSumption. No, just no.
Mikeyy  +   960d ago
Please provide PROOF of these dedicated servers, from Microsofts mouth.

There is none. Frigid, jokes, burdens on you since your the biggest fanboys posting lately.

Where is your proof?
Ju  +   960d ago
Speaking about generic shooters. I totally agree. If we look at online, that there's actually The Division and Destiny which just offer so much more with a fully dynamic and living world. BF4 has at least the "battle commander" (on a tablet) but it is yet another "let-go-shoot-someone&quo t; attitude.

What did we really hear about the new live? Dedicated servers is nothing new. We had this last gen. What else? No more headset included? (guess PS4 cought up, there, too). Live recording and sharing (built into the OS)? Nah, doesn't have that either.

Cloud, at least using MS's APIs I give them that, and probably Skype (which would be nice to have).

Cross game chat is now also on the PS4. So, there goes that. I can't see a clear advantage there. I never had troubles with online on the PS3 to begin with - the only thing missing was the cross talk, but not the quality of the online play. And with the new PS4 controller, everybody has access to a cheap head set, now, too.
loulou  +   960d ago
gamer v111

cross game chat is and has always been FREE on xbox. it is 8 person party chat that is part of the gold subs. you fanboys aint got a clue.

anyway, flame bait title is flame bait title. another day on n4g.

and to the disagreers. please prove that x game 1 to 1 chat is for gold members only

@ ju

is sonys cross game chat just 1 to 1 or is it an 8 person party chat?? i cant seen to find out which it is..

@ mikeyy. this was said in may on the announcement. it was when they talked about the 300k servers
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YNWA96  +   960d ago
@ IAMGAMER, that was a long pointless rant... Sure the article pointed out X1 features only, which may or may not be better. You also said as you know little so far about PS4 features, then you followed up and said PS4 would be better because blah blah blah.... Whatever, it is in the eye of the beholder, each to his own and so on.... But do not dress up rubbish and try to be intelligent.... I like video games, on both systems this gen, and next eventually... Just enjoy man.... Its entertainment only.... Not life or death....
iGAM3R-VIII  +   960d ago
@loulou listen up, I have a 360 and I do not have XBL and I can not cross game chat, I can only use 1 to 1 chat.

@GMAN I know the X1 has some really nice online features but some went away such as the family thing which IMO was a good idea. The PS4 beats the X1 is the listed categories I had said and I do like both systems as saying I own a PS3 and X360 and PS2 and the original Xbox, I think both have their pluses and minuses
Mikeyy  +   960d ago

Please provide me a link, that states the 300k servers will be used in the manner of which you speak.

This is a feature MS would be rubbing in everybodies faces if it where true, but they arent doing that? Why? I think you misunderstood what they said. The 300k servers are for all the new features and matchmaking. COD ghosts acuall gameplay will be, yet again, P2P, even on Xbone.
YNWA96  +   959d ago
Thanks for polite response, very unusual here... My big concern for next gen, I am sure MS worked with publishers on drm, got some backing and then took the fall while no one else came forward to defend it. Sony has thought of this too, and is capable of DRM. Publishers are hiding something.... Shame too, no doubt PS4 is great machine, built for todays gamers, but I think X1 was built for the future..... Roll on hysterical people......
loulou  +   959d ago
gamer v111

yes 1 to 1, when you are in a game and the other person is another game... cross game chat voila!!

that is not the 8 person party chat, which is across any game as well... but is called party chat

now is the ps4 cross game chat 1 to 1 or a party chat?

@ mikeyy. during the announcement on the 21st of may, the guy that was talking about 5b transistors and 300k servers said that they would be used for on-line to creat bigger matches with bigger player counts.

look what i found on my first google search

why mikeyy... i think that you misunderstood old chap ;-)
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dantesparda  +   959d ago
Now explain to me how this is so impressive when PS3 has had quite a few games that can do over 128 players online this gen? Why is it such a spectacular thing when MS does now what Sony's been done? Like for example, suddenly, MS fanboys think dedicated servers is such a wonderful thing, yet PS3 had more games with dedicated servers last gen, and i never heard a MS fanboy praise that. And the list goes on, but i'll end it right here
reko  +   959d ago

did you really just say "COD"?

hahahhaahah wow.
Gamer1982  +   959d ago
Sony PS+ beats Xbox live hands down and multiplayer features are exactly the same pretty much and depend on the game in question.
sAVAge_bEaST  +   959d ago
B.F. runs it's own dedicated servers... -Why is there no proof of these dedicated servers supporting ghosts?,,.. you think that MS&IW would have said something about this by now,... what a bunch of b.s.
condemmedman  +   959d ago
peoples are butt hurt lol
HateFanboys  +   959d ago
english, and you shouldnt go full retard
minimur12  +   959d ago
winning on multiplayer features -
PS4 =
Cross game chat
services like netflix and others
WITHOUT purchase of PS Plus.

Access to cross game chat
access to netflix, Iplayer etc
WITH purchase of Live GOLD
yeah, xbox wins.
Enemy  +   959d ago
$100 more for Xbox One, and the PS4 has far more powerful specs. I wonder how many people can justify their purchase.

There's nothing Sony couldn't implement into the PS4 at any given time.
Dee_Cazo  +   959d ago
201 disagrees for stating the obvious. If anything these n4g fanboys should realize that people don't care about the extra RAM that the playstation has.
awi5951  +   959d ago

At microsfot press conference they said xbox live will be running on 300 thousand servers there is your proof.
morganfell  +   959d ago
And developers are laughing over this claim of 300,000 servers. One even tweeted he hopes someone calls MS on this claim. Everyone with common sense is laughing. You know, the people that know a virtual server can often be quite worthless. Your proof just went up in smoke.
CommonSense  +   959d ago
It is mind boggling how immature and hypocritical most of you are.
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The_Con-Sept  +   959d ago
My problem is Microsoft's choices in moderators. My friend never got justice for getting banned from battlefield bad company 2. He was a totally legit player. But I guess the moderator at the time was on another clan and decided to enact revenge on him.
yarbie1000  +   960d ago
Hence the title "Winning" - - Not - - "Won"
a_squirrel  +   960d ago
Wait, would the PS4 even need that negative feedback when it is integrated with your social accounts?

I'm not buying the dedicated gaming servers bit. "All multiplayer games on the Xbox One will have it's own dedicated server." I don't know if they're talking about gaming, patches, DLC, and does that mean that no more games will have p2p?
Kanzes  +   960d ago
When it comes to servers and 3rd party apps, Microsoft win, maybe because we paid for it. But when it comes to deal and service, PS win of course
TomOfAllTrades  +   960d ago
But we don't know how good Sony's servers are yet, how can you make a claim like that?
It's irritating reading comment's from people like 'YOU' who believe they know it all..
Kanzes  +   960d ago
^That's my opinion about current gen though, I'm not saying the next-gen will be like that, because you know sony finally takes away the free online play, maybe they will serve more dedicated servers with that money
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thoract  +   960d ago

What makes you think MS has better servers because they supported a 24 multiplayer match? Is there any MS multiplayer game that supported more than 24 players on the xbox 360? The only thing xbox 360 had over the PS3 in multiplayer was the cross game chat. In terms of better servers it goes to PS3 with a 256 multiplayer match. Whether the game is good or not.
wishingW3L  +   960d ago
yet there are more PS3 games with dedicated servers than on the X360. But the thing is that you're paying for nothing because when you play Call of Duty online you're playing on Activision's servers and those have nothing to do with MS or XBL. That's why paying Sony or MS to be able to play a game online it's retarded.
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Death  +   959d ago
Sony has better servers because MAG had 256 players? MMORPG's sport many more than that. The amount of players per game has nothing to do with the "quality" of the servers, it has to do with how the game is set up. MAG didn't exactly light the gaming world on fire.
P_Bomb  +   959d ago
In MAG's defense (I never got into it personally), it sold over a million as a new IP with no SP, on the strength of those 256 and 128 player matches alone. That to me, is impressive. Don't have to "set the world on fire" to be a successful online experiment.
fermcr  +   960d ago
In relation to online, this says a lot...


When you look at it. Microsoft and Google are really the only two people who have a “Cloud”. A technical description of a cloud. They have data centers all over the world with tons of fast machines in them and they can slice them up however they want and turn them into virtual machines. And what they have done is exposed that in a very awesome way for Xbox One games. So if you’re in Connecticut and you want to play a game, we can say okay, here is the data center that you are going to go to because its the closest one and you have a 30 ping to it. And there’s no empty servers, so lets spin one up for you in 5 seconds and off you go.

We don’t have to provision hardware, we don’t have to go out and buy a bunch of servers and rack them in different places, it’s just there. It’s easy. It gets rid of all that fear of how this is all actually going to work. We have that available to use.

Let’s get crazy here and say it (Titanfall) gets popular in Japan. If we didn’t think it was going to be popular there and we didn’t buy a bunch of servers to put there, we would be screwed. (Cloud) Helps alleviate those types of problems.

- You couldn’t make this game without the dedicated server support


So what do you do on the PC? Do you have to replicate elements of that structure for your version or do they have something you can use?


We won’t get all the niceties on PC that you get on Xbox One. There will have to be some engineering of things

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kneon  +   960d ago
Actually Amazon is the most successful cloud computing service provider, Azure really isn't doing that well considering how much Microsoft have poured in to it. It usually ranks near the bottom of top ten lists behind a bunch of companies that the average person had never heard if.

A disagree already, I guess they don't know much about the cloud computing market. Look up Amazon EC2.
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Ju  +   960d ago
BTW: Server side code runs on PCs (whatever OS it's running) for ages now - this is pretty much every online game incl. current consoles.
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JOHN_DOH  +   959d ago
Yeah I thought amazon was the biggest cloud provider.
HateFanboys  +   959d ago
Amazon is the biggest and then i think Google
chuckyj1  +   960d ago
because they don't have any. It's just whatever the 3rd parties institute in their games for online multiplayer.
raiden-49  +   960d ago
because they have shown it
jcnba28  +   960d ago
Xbox always had better multiplayer options.
GamerzElite  +   960d ago
@ Septic Nice 300,000 server means no lag, wow M$ u did gr8. but these are physical dedicated servers or virtual? As I know a server cost is $1,115 for a year means MS going to spend $334,500,000 per year. Wow
A little math here, suppose MS make profit of $50 on each XBone sale, then they need to sale 6,690,000 XBone every year to run these servers. Bill Gate is richest man of US and has $72.7 billion. 5 Bill Gates = MS yearly server cost.
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Geezus  +   960d ago
yeah ur doing the math wrong and u arent accounting for a ton of other factors that are pretty relevant and break your theory but ill let you figure that one out yourself
jetlian  +   959d ago
you need to get off the games and go back to school!

MS is expecting over 10 million xbox live gold members at 60 dollars which would bring in 600 million a year almost double the cost of servers.
MysticStrummer  +   959d ago
"300,000 server means no lag"

Psn800  +   960d ago
All trying to win you over but who wins you over Ps4 or Xbone One you decide ?
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a_squirrel  +   960d ago
A 'real' gamer doesn't have to pick both. What a load of crap. They can, and it won't make them less of a gamer.
Death  +   959d ago
How would it not make you less of a gamer? If you can enjoy all the great exclusives regardless of system, wouldn't that give you an edge?
1Victor  +   960d ago
can someone explain to the person on the video that you can NOT swap games since the DRM and installing of games is gone. for me personally PS4 is first because I know it will have a bigger variety of unique games from indie and first party like knack, then later after I'm 80% sure the Xbox one don't have a RROD 2.0 I'll buy it to play K.I
turnerdc  +   960d ago
I'm sure you can if you buy the game digitally.
1Victor  +   959d ago
fair enough I forgot about that
Dee_Cazo  +   959d ago
I'm buying all of my games digital. I'm not giving Gamestop or BestBuy another dime.

Plus Microsoft is going to offer some pretty awesome pre-order deals/bonus content for going right through them I am sure.

The fact I can have it installed and ready to go and hit PLAY on midnight is the best part of it all.
greenlantern2814  +   960d ago
It is simple everything gaming related Xbox1 can ps4 can do, it is pointless for people to bring up COD, or BF since both games will be on both systems and play the same. People say psn isn't as good but all through out the ps3 life it just keeps getting better, no reason to think it won't in ps4
Death  +   959d ago
Doesn't the same hold true for Live? Isn't it getting better over time also? It always amazes me when someone points out how PSN gets better over time and pretends that Live hasn't changed since 2002.
greenlantern2814  +   959d ago
Did not say that it didn't.
headblackman  +   960d ago
for a company that had to close a bunch of its studios, I'm sure matching Microsoft and Google servers and service is not even a possibility. this will be a very huge factor.
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Sayai jin  +   960d ago
Kratos - why not ask why SOny has not mentioned much about their multiplayer features?

All of the ridiculous articles, XBox One Winning...PS4 is the best, Console X dominating. These polarizing articles are mainly for hits. The more controversial the title the more hits. The consoles have not even launched yet...
ColdFeet  +   960d ago
I made a good thread on the forums on PSN online features so far.
DonFreezer  +   960d ago
The are winning because if the same would be said about Sony and the ps4 you would all praise this site to hell.
joefrost00  +   960d ago
Listen fanboys this is were you all have it confused yall think features are the main reason xbox kicks sony ass in multiplayer and online
Thats a part of it but the real winning piece is connection speeds and download speed
Any 3rd party developer will tell you that
That is why most of the time in competitive multiplayer events they always xbox versions not just cause the version looks better but because the connection is better
Its funny if it was something that was saying sony had the advantage you all would be screaming yeah but anything positive about MS and its questioned
Which looking at the current gen and looking at the multiplayer features this gen it does look like this is were MS will shine again
But we will see
I swear sony need to be paying some of you guys
USA007  +   960d ago
This is wrong.
It is not connection speed, it is latency that causes the problems with online.
Xbox did not have a better speed anyways. Video game tournaments are run on a LAN, meaning practically no latency and no need for Internet whatsoever. This in itself makes your reason defunct.

The reason many tournaments at events used 360 was because it was the more popular console of this generation, so that the majority of players don't have to adapt. If PS4 became the more popular console, then tournaments would shift to it, unless some deal behind the scenes godson.

My job is running video game tournaments, I know this well.
P_Bomb  +   959d ago

I'm afraid USA007 is right, it's latency and controller familiarality/market penetration. These things are run on LAN, nothing to do with fanboys or Sony paying ppl off. There was a business (that went under) about 10min from me that did nothing but LAN parties, tournys and pay-to-play. Time to pay the piper.
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dantesparda  +   959d ago
God, fanboys are so fucking dumb its not even funny. Listen all you stupid a$$ fanboys, I can easily see the speeds at which both systems are downloading information at. All i have to do is bridge my wifi connection with my lan connection on my pc then connect the 360 or ps3 to the pc's ethernet port then i have a program running that'll show what speeds im download or uploading at. And guess what? they both will download demos or games at my internet connections full speed. And its like the guy above me said, latency is what matters more, and latency is heavily reliant on how close/far you are from the server. You generally want a server to be no more than say a couple of states away from you. otheriwse the latency starts to go up dramatically. So please stop with this stupid nonsense that one is faster than the other. Its not true!
jmc8888  +   960d ago
Also those 'features' are awfully vague.

3 Levels for reputation that no doubt many people will be in the lower ones because 13 year old's get mad and report you for beating them.

The matchmaking thing is bs. That's a feature? ROFL. Everyone commit to waiting X number of minutes and you'll find a match. Yeah that happens anyways.
BattleTorn  +   960d ago
LOL, cause not saying much means that the comparison isn't fair!
slampunk  +   960d ago

Exactly.... They haven't mentioned it because it's one area where MS have them covered.....dedicated servers is huge for competitive gaming online...

With Gaikai not being available for another year (in the US), it shows Sony is quite a way behind MS in this....They are only just introducing cross game / party chat with PS4? It has come along way though and PS+ is great value....

I'm no MS fanboy either but i know they have Sony covered in regards to online infrastructure.
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nypifisel  +   959d ago
I have never read anything about MS having full dedicated server support, where are you all getting this?

Second, we don't know whether Sony will utilize this or not, my guess is that neither will to its fullest extent.

Third, the cloud is bullshit - it's just servers, I can put up my own cloud if I wish, don't think that to be an edge to MS (especially not since Sony got the damn same thing)

And people really need to stop declaring the X1 as being "future proof" while not saying the same for the PS4. In what sense is the X1 more future proof then the PS4? The only functions the PS4 lack which the X1 has is all the Kinect and TV stuff (Live TV which is on its way out - yea future proof alright) - If anything the PS4 is more future proof then the X1 with its more potent hardware.

slampunk  +   959d ago

Below is a comment for another user about cloud....please read the below and look through the links.

4Kids wrote:

here you go:) here is an article by professionals who know more about the cloud than this fanboys

and here is a video to show just how much money MS invest in cloud/server tech! this just proves MS cares alot about cloud

also you guys know how MS specifically designed the xbox around cloud technology well here are two more articles explaining the HYPERVISOR installed on xbox as well as 4 DME this help the xbox work as one with the cloud if you dont know what im talking about than u should read:)

what u guys dont get is MS had a plan to build a console with a modified AMD chip to help transfer data from cloud to the xbox in a efficient way.

Unfortunately, when it comes to the gaming sub-culture there are very few people who understand these concepts. 99% of "gamers" probably have no idea what PaaS, IaaS or SaaS mean, so when discussing points which require a higher level of thinking/knowledge about a specific topic, specifically this one, most gamers are not going to be able to understand.
This isn't because they are dumb or don't have the ability to understand but it's due to lack of knowledge. There isn't anything wrong with that, I know absolutely nothing about cars or American football, it is what it is. Unfortunately, most people who react negatively to this post will react negatively because they are a PS4 supporter. Instead of actually doing research and considering possibilities, outside of their limited scope of knowledge about the cloud, they will instead resort to arguing and or name calling. Pride and fanboyism is certainly an unfortunate characteristic of gamers.
As many people have stated, the cloud isn't necessarily new technology. Many major companies, business and practically all of silicon valley utilize the cloud. Be that as it may, game console have never used the cloud in ways which the Xbox One will. Although, I don't think we will be able to visibly see the improvements, in the first year or two after launch, I do believe there will be some stunning and very creative uses of the cloud's integration in Xbox One games and the console itself later on in the future.

Also, it's worth noting, that anything that MS could achieve with the cloud would be achievable in Gaikai. Whether they actually provide those services in Gaikai is a different matter though. When it comes to cloud computing, SaaS, IaaS, and PaaS, pretty much make them all available to do the same thing, as they aren't restricted by any form of computing. The only limits are to how much physical resources a company devotes to such a thing(ie..300.000 servers or modified console)
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3-4-5  +   960d ago
I've been using Xbox live since 2003 and I love it. I have good internet so the connection is always great and has allowed me to have great online experiences.

I'm hoping Sony can do the same with PS+ on the PS4.
SpinalRemains138  +   959d ago

There's nothing wrong with psn and never has been.
Death  +   959d ago

Nothing wrong, yet more features to make it more like Live come with every update. If PSN is great the way it is, what's your take on Live?
CrossingEden  +   960d ago
because 300 servers is a huge deal, they use less now and the service is already much faster and much more stable than psn, because psn is free and gives free things away
SpinalRemains138  +   959d ago
You're telling lies.

The notion that psn is unstable is just false.

Matter of fact, Live went down for 6 hours just 3 days ago.

You try to justify your purchase any way you like, but x game chat does not a more stable service make.

The two are identical in so far as how they work. I use both and the only difference is xgame chat.
MysticStrummer  +   959d ago
"the service is already much faster and much more stable than psn"

CrossingEden  +   959d ago
@MysticStrummer, check comparisons between downloads, it can take up to three hours just to download the killzone 3 multiplayer beta with the best internet money can buy, on xbox live, it takes twenty-thirty minutes to download an even bigger file -_-
GameBanger  +   959d ago
Kratos they are winning based on track record..
Xbox Live hasn't been shut down for nearly a month straight..
77 million people's personal information weren't exploited on Xbox live
Voice chat/ cross game chat always supported on Xbox Live
More servers more stable connections on Xbox Live...

Those are valid reasons justifying "winning"...

Any thoughts?!
nypifisel  +   959d ago
That's a stupid argument. It could've just as easily been XBL being hacked. And we wouldn't ever have gotten an apology from MS like we did from Sony.
dantesparda  +   959d ago
Funny cuz MS instead just willingly gives away all your info to the NSA. And i get more lag and disconnects on Live than i ever have on PSN and i use PSN more therefore should have seen more lag and disconnects, and let me not even get on the racism on Live
GameBanger  +   959d ago
Yeah MS gives information to the NSA and Sony gives it to hackers.. Both suck yes but I think it's safer with the government than the online hacking community..
GameBanger  +   959d ago
Nypifisel ..
Coulda shoulda woulda

Game Over...

dantesparda  +   959d ago
Sony didnt "give" the hackers your info, you retard, the hackers hacked in and took it. And tell me one person who lost money from it. MS willingly gave your info to the government. And you're a sucker if you trust the government
XB1_PS4  +   959d ago
DEDICATED SERVERS! I'm kinda about to get an xbox one. I like the xbox controller layout anyway. When I strafe right, and aim left, my thumbs touch on the DS3. Don't like that.
Abdou23  +   959d ago
Dedicated Servers will be the only thing worth paying for Live.
Urusernamesucks  +   959d ago
Someone call damage control n4g is loosing it.
Lvl_up_gamer  +   959d ago
Think about what you just said there....

If Sony hasn't said much about their Multiplayer, then it's easy to compare what has been given hence why MS is beating them.

Was your own comment too difficult for you to even understand what you were asking?
CoolBeansRus  +   959d ago
All the points made in this video are true. Xbox live will be better than the playstations online system like it has been for Xbox and the 360. Will next gen be different? Probably not, XBL will still be better but Sony might make up some serious ground now that people have to pay for it.

That is horrible logic, if they had something good they would be talking about it. You think they have great stuff but just dont want to tell anyone? lol.Tricks r for kids.
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CommonSense  +   959d ago
Probably for the same reason all the idiots on the other side declared sony the winner with having all the information.

The garbage double standard expressed by the community on N4G never gets old......
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Septic  +   960d ago
This is where Microsoft can really shine. They've been ahead of the curve traditionally when it comes to the online gaming arena and with 300k servers and more dedicated servers, if they do keep their promise, the X1 can quickly become the online gamer's console of choice.

But Sony are definitely not the dinosaurs they once were when it came to online playand whilst rthey might not have the deep pockets Microsoft have, they have the mikes of Mike Cerny at the helm who will no doubt be pushing for improvements online too.

It's too early to tell which one will be better in terms of the service. Only upon the consoles release will we be able to gauge the merits of both systems.
Kanzes  +   960d ago
Yeah, from 15k to 300k servers is an enormous amount.
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jimbobwahey  +   960d ago
The thing is however, that I think Microsoft are lying. They're not a very truthful company and I have trouble believing their claims about Xbox Live servers, much like I do with their Cloud marketing nonsense.

300k dedicated servers? That won't even be enough to provide dedicated servers for every person who plays COD Ghosts when it launches, so how is it going to provide dedicated servers to the entire XBL userbase, exactly? The service has what, 45+ million subscribers? 300k servers isn't going to do a very good job of eliminating peer-to-peer gaming, is it?

Remember when Epic stated that Gears of War 3 would have dedicated servers? Yeah, ended up being lies. I remember playing that game and being booted when the hosts would quit matches. If they were really using dedicated servers, there wouldn't have been a host at all.

Now Microsoft is claiming 300k servers will be dedicated for the XBL userbase? I don't believe that for a second, and I'd advise people to think about their claims (and history of lying) and analyze them with a sensible, level mind before buying into their marketing talk.
Geezus  +   960d ago
@jimbobwahey you obviously dont understand how servers work theres more to it than this and its more complicated than the following but just to help u understand understand at 45 mill xbl users divided by 300k servers thats 150 people per server and seeing that 45 mill people wont be all playing xbox live at the same time that number decreases significantly even then these server are powerful and can each handle that amount of people easily. once again thats not exactly how it will work but yeah dude your underestimatting the power of the serverzzzzzz the cloud is the future and that why these insanely rich companies like amazon and google and microsoft are investing heavily in servers for cloud computing. and no MS is not lying microsoft's servers are real andl they own a sh-- ton of them.
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thehitman  +   960d ago
@Geezus your perfectly right in almost everything you said but 1 fact remains hidden. Just how powerful are each of the 300k? Nobody knows that information. Now im not doubting M$ has obtain a very powerful server cluster BUT for all the things they have planned with them it seems like a bit much. They want to use them as computation power in games and dedicated servers? Doing that with millions of games I dont care how you slice it will be taxing on the servers they would need to double their servers within the first 1-2 years to keep up. MS is doing a bit too much promising on server and cloud computing where I think they are setting themselves up for a disaster.
Urusernamesucks  +   959d ago
@thehitman well they did invest about 9 billion $ on these servers, so id say They're pretty Powerful.
Geezus  +   960d ago
@hitman your right they are overshooting a bit and probably wont deliver on all their promises ( like every company has done since the begging of time) , but the notion of having 300000 servers dedicated to just the xbox online experience is insane and will go along way to making the online experience on the xbox one reliable, efficient, and fast basically the best mp experience available. Ms has always done online well going back to the original xbox and the One wont be any different and this is an area where sony and the ps4 cant touch Ms. As they will have to really on p2p servers for the mp experience unless the game itself has dedicated servers ala Bf4 or unless they are willing to pay some of these other companies like amazon and google for the right to use their servers not saying sony has bad mp or that ps+ isn't a excellent service because it is but xbl has always been more reliable and powerful of the two gaming consoles going back to the og xbox.
thehitman  +   960d ago
A lot of Sony first party games actually had dedicated servers such as Res:Fom, warhawk and a few others. They do own Gaikai which I am sure can compete w/ MS servers easily. The entire question is how the servers are being put to use and I think Sony will focus more on bringing games through the cloud while MS is trying to enhance gaming through the cloud which I believe wont end well. All in all I think all games should have dedicated servers for competitive matchmaking play. It is good that MS is trying to achieve that, but it is not something they are doing alone Sony has the same resources that MS does so this shouldnt be over blown.
onyoursistersback  +   959d ago
So let me get this right. With the reputation system, how does it know if you are cursing people out, etc.? Does that mean that the game records everything that I am saying >.> So now there is no privacy WHATSOEVER. You have the XB1 recording what you are saying and the Kinect watching you and knowing everything you are doing....
spaceback2012  +   959d ago
People can report you for being abusive - Kinect is not monitoring your cuss words... -_-
CrimsonTideAdam  +   960d ago
Will Xbox 360 players be able to play with Xbox One players in multiplayer?
chuckyj1  +   960d ago
That will be on a game by game basis. I would guess no for most games, but there maybe some that will allow cross (Xbox One and Xbox 360) play.
GamerzElite  +   960d ago
No they can't see the XBox support ans pic below
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ZBlacktt  +   960d ago
Hell, if it's not already a Multi Platform game. Everything else is exclusive to Sony that's most popular. That and Sony has Destiny and Watch_Dogs exclusive content which is multi play... Share button, free cross game chat now... The Xbox people should be be happy Sony forced MS to pull it's DRM and 24hr online. Otherwise, the X1 would have been a super flop.

At 1:16 he says you can go watch tv. I busted out laughing thinking yep XBox One.
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Sitdown  +   960d ago
I don't understand why that's funny.....instead of being stuck watching the match finding screen, you have the option, among other things, to watch TV until your game is ready.
ZBlacktt  +   960d ago
Tv, tv, tv, sports, sports, sports, tv. Television tv, tv.

Given all the upgrades the PS4 will have over the PS3. Gamers there too will not just be sitting there.
Utalkin2me  +   960d ago
My lord how long does it take to find a match? My tv has picture in picture and also i have my PC setting right next to my console screen so i can do whatever is needed from that spot.

I can plug my Astros input jack in to my headphone jack of my PC and listen to TV while i play multiplayer or cue up a playlist or whatever.
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irepbtown  +   960d ago
I can just press a button on the remote and watch TV right now while playing or waiting for a game.

What makes X1's different from that?

Almost forgot, I can also split my TV in half; watch TV and play a game at the same time.
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Sitdown  +   960d ago
You all probably think you are in the majority too huh? Can you also currently play a game on your current console while match making is performed in the background?

Whoever said ps4 would just be sitting around? Simply addressing the live TV point.

Can take a while depending on how restricted your match requirements are.
The_Troll_Whisperer  +   960d ago
Hold on...
Wasn't this same thing attempted on GOW 3?
(Gears of War, obviously)
SlavisH2  +   960d ago
Dedicated servers for EVERY GAME! this is huge even the biggest x1 hater knows this is cool!
ZBlacktt  +   960d ago
Better to spy on you. Think better is what they want, lol. Meanwhile they are going through your hard drive looking for pirated content. Or any kind of files.
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SlavisH2  +   960d ago
Wtf, you have any proof or is that how u get your kicks? Dude every company checks piracy. No body cares enough about u to watch u. So am I being watched on my cell phone,table,PC? All always on and have had mic and camera for years! Ps4 has camera u can get I guess this secret society can get in that too, omg! :P
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Vames  +   960d ago
You trust Sony right? Did you remember how Sony knowingly infected millions of computers around the world with malicious rootkit software that collected user information and sends them to Sony? Remember the amount of class action lawsuits that came from it? Remember how Sony denied it all? Then came out later to admit it was a DRM mechanism?
T2  +   960d ago
@slavis - yes you are being watched have you heard of the news ? Enter any keywords into a text or email and it will be logged
ZBlacktt  +   960d ago
The kids are sensitive to this subject, lol. I guess it was that story about the US Government coming down on MS. So lets hate on the guy who just post the fact and not the one who's doing the act. How do you think they bricked 1 million XBox owners consoles? HHmmmm yeah.
jessupj  +   959d ago
I still sceptical to this dedicated servers for all games things.

If it's true, then absolutely yes, that is HUGE deal, and I'd be very jelly.

But I would have thought MS would be shouting this feature from the maintain tops, because if you're ever played on PC on dedicated servers, you'd know how amazing this would be. In fact, I would even contemplate buying an xbone, and if you know me that is no small thing I'm saying.

I just don't get why MS aren't telling us this fact at every possible moment. It just doesn't make sense.
SlavisH2  +   959d ago
They mentioned it at the unveiled and its kind of been down played but this is a ace in the hole. I am buying a x1 now and this is A MAJOR reason. Xbox live has been there strong suit but this actually makes it worth it to me. Like me if u plan on owning both systems plus PC I will go with the version with dedicated servers since I mostly play online. Time will tell though.
Silly gameAr  +   960d ago
Here we go again...
Kos-Mos  +   960d ago
I`m with ye.
Mikelarry  +   960d ago
the asynchronous matchmaking and reputation system are great ideas there is no doubt about it. for now xbox one multiplayer features does have the upper hand over psn. i do hope sony includes similar features to the psn
nick309  +   960d ago
This fanboy wars needs to stop. Both systems will sell good without you braggin about it.
pkb79  +   960d ago
No way man, Super Nintendo is way better the Sega Genesis.
No_Limit  +   959d ago
Sega Genesis has blast processing. That is superior to the SNES mode 7. Sega Geneis win.
colt-of-tipton  +   960d ago
Having dedicated servers for every game is a excellent feature !
sway_z  +   960d ago
Who cares...??

I enjoyed MP thoroughly on PS3, and if you never used XBL you wouldn't know the difference.

MS have made Billions of $$$ since Xbox Live was created, so I for one would expect the service to reflect that experience and the revenue would have been re-invested to make the XBL network better.

Sony are behind, so what....and they have not even started charging for MP yet...!!
T2  +   960d ago
Dude thats the point , you cant tell the difference playing both . Thats why these arguments happen ppl wont give up spreading bs ... I put in tons of hours on xbl , its not noticeable
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DoubleM70  +   959d ago
Oh yes you can tell the damn difference. Dropped games all the time on the PS3. I have both consoles so I know. People on PSN don't even used their head phones. It's ridiculous.
T2  +   958d ago
Completely false halo lags all the time and all my onlinefriends use headset on psn
Redrever  +   960d ago
even SONY them selfs confirmed that only Multiplayer gaming is behind the paywall of PS+ the apps on 360 and the X1 will be behind the paywall of gold members so i don't know you can decide the X1 can WIN anything just yet we haven't heard anything about Gaikai and if it will or will not be included in PS+ ether way 2013 and 2014 is shaping up too be very interesting.
USMC_POLICE  +   960d ago
I want to play online and be able to form parties no need for anything more.
ravennevermore  +   960d ago
Xbox One only supports dedicated servers? is this true?
solidworm  +   960d ago
likely not.
SITH  +   959d ago
likely so unless you have evidence to suggest otherwise.

"Perhaps most intriguing, however, is that Xbox One gives game developers the ability to access Microsoft’s Azure cloud computing platform. That leads to a few obvious and immediate applications: All your downloaded and installed games and achievements are synced to the cloud and can be accessed and played without interruption on any Xbox One you sign in to; stable, dedicated servers for every multiplayer game rather than the notoriously fragile practice of hosting matches on one participant’s console; even multiplayer matches that can grow to 64, even 128 participants, rather than the usual limit of 16 or 32"
mt  +   960d ago
he is using mouse at the beginning: running on PC ?
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Cueil  +   960d ago
they record stuff so they can post on youtube
Cueil  +   960d ago
Dedicated servers is enough of a difference maker for most online players to chose one console over the other if their main games of choice are multiplat MP games
Red_Devilz  +   960d ago
At this point its hard for me to believe any sentence in a positive sentiment, which contains words "microsoft would" or "microsoft will". I don't think any corporation which has its core set up to screw customers can do anything for the good of customers or industry as a whole.

Like, if someone says "EA would add new .......... feature to their new game" the only things that come to my mind in the blank space are like DRM, always online, micro-transactions, online passes, some $hitty restrictions.
UNGR  +   960d ago
All cool stuff, it'll be fun to check it all out.
aleFH  +   960d ago
Available only in the US®
tdogg  +   960d ago
Xbox online multiplayer has always been better than ps3 and will continue to be better
gamertk421  +   960d ago
Xbox Live has been and will continue to be a more robust service infrastructure than the PSN. I will literally shit a PS4 if Sony isn't still predominantly using P2P for multiplayer. There will be exceptions, but their network is nowhere near at the same level.
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S2Killinit  +   960d ago
and the PS4 will have the exact same things.
Swiggins  +   959d ago
No evidence to suggest so, it'd be nice if they did though.
S2Killinit  +   958d ago
well, I mean most of the stuff they are talking about are doable on the current generation. In fact, I maybe wrong but it seems like all it needs is a game that is designed in such a way. Only thing that is not going to happen on PS4 is the multitasking element. I personally favor the more dedicated approach of the PS4. I rather have the most powerful machine I can have instead of having the perk to jump back and forth between tasks (even though it should be nice, it seems a bit redundant to me since I could just jump behind my PC if I had to wait for a game to load) Also, I mean, how long are they thinking is going to take for a multiplayer to load exactly? It's not like it takes 10 minutes.
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iliimaster  +   960d ago
this whole reputation thing is a joke assholes are everywhere and people report people for little or no reason its pretty much broken... and i doubt it would work like how they say it will, am i wrong or has there always been an option to immediately mute someone who is annoying?
Mustang300C2012  +   959d ago
Yeah your wrong. If you don't even know all the options that have been available on Live, then I suggest you sit back and just listen.
iliimaster  +   959d ago
troll much?
retrofly  +   960d ago
The onyl ever time I got reported was when I played well in MP and people didn't like it. Feedback system is broke.
SITH  +   959d ago
Same here. Or when I played only in party chat. I agree it is broke but the mute and avoid player sure isn't. I have people I muted since xbox live beta that are still muted.
Mikeyy  +   960d ago
This video is an outright lie towards the very end.

In no way what so ever has microsoft said that every single game will have dedicated servers. My evidence is also backed up by the FACT that MS didnt make a big deal about this at E3. This would be the biggest selling feature ever, yet no mention?

Sorry fanboys, this video is a lie.
S2Killinit  +   958d ago
I would say you are correct. This type of thing would be announced officially and touted about like a banner.
Picnic  +   960d ago
Well I'd expect the Xbox One to have better multiplayer. It has to be best at at least one thing in gaming...
Dee_Cazo  +   959d ago
When multiplayer is a huge aspect of console choice for a lot of people, it is the spot I would definitely want to excel at.
PirateThom  +   960d ago
Dedicated servers for every game?

I'll believe it when I see it.

I'll tell you why though, Microsoft charge a fortune for companies to use Azure, you think they're going to suddenly give that away free for some shovelware game to use?

More than likely they'll charge developers to use the service rather than needing to set up their own servers and, because it's scalable, they'll be able to adjust rates and requirements on the fly. If every game was able to use it for free, EA wouldn't even bother with their own servers.
oscarcat59  +   960d ago
Funny if it was said by Sony everyone one would jump up and down saying it is true lol. Sony is going broke getting there butts kicked by lg and Samsung. By the amount of resources and money Sony has I doubt Sony will have a better server network but I am sure it will be good enough.
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Belking  +   960d ago
no surprise here. Ms has always beat sony in this area. This is about technology and sony isn't a technology company at heart.MS online services will always be better.
oscarcat59  +   960d ago
They do make good hardware. But I see fewer Sony products and more lg and Samsung. They let themselves get passed up and having trouble catching up.
Belking  +   959d ago
yes they do make excellent hardware. The problem with that is, so do Samsung and LG but theirs isn't as expensive and that has hurt sony. Sony is more of hardware and entertainment company. They won't outdo MS when it comes to things like technology. This is the reason they went out and bought Gaikai instead of building their own c,oud service. They just don't have the resources for it.
PigPen  +   959d ago
That's true and I totally agree.
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