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Why timed exclusives is a waste of resources

Rumors surfaced the other day about an upcoming announcement of a partnership between Microsoft and EA. While I’m sure this won’t mean exclusive games, it most definitely will involve exclusive content and timed DLC deals. This is a bad practice.

MariaHelFutura4038d ago

Timed exclusives are ridiculous, regardless of the platform. Unless, it's a super small studio that just can't develop them simultaneously.

Knight_Crawler4038d ago

While I do agree with you from a gamers perspective I have to disagree with you from a business perspective - take Mine Craft for example, the game is a 360 console exclusive and has sold over 1 million on the 360 and I can tell you that some casuals bought a 360 just to play MC.

Also Call of Duty time exclusives benefits MS alot when it comes to console sales.

kreate4038d ago

I highly doubt a casual gamer bought a 360 just to play minecraft. Assuming the gamer didnt have one from the beginning.

dcbronco4038d ago (Edited 4038d ago )

@Knight

That is what too many don't get. I know they believe they are special to companies but it's always about money. Companies will be good to you if the two issues can coexist. Everyone can agree that a large number of the original 360's failed and are most likely dead. Yet that timed deal for CoD made the 360 version sell more copies. By a couple of million. At ten dollars a copy that is a good business win. The 360 has fewer consoles live. Yet it sold more copies.

But there is no reason to believe they can't be doing an exclusive title. MS has more than enough money to get it done. It's not as if Sony is the only company that can get a third party exclusive. It's not like MS owns Epic. It is the smarter way of doing things. Look at what they have and give them a check for exclusivity.

sway_z4038d ago (Edited 4038d ago )

Timed exclusives are utterly pointless from the gamers point of view.

However, it must generate more sales for the console manufacturer, or it would have been put to sleep a long time ago.

I fully expect MS to draw the 'Timed Exclusive' card again throughout next gen. Especially with the industry buzz concerning MS and EA. Who are reportedly snuggled up in bed, making digital babies together. But you won't hear the end user complaining.

For the record, I'm anti-exclusivity.

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Jek_Porkins4038d ago

People complain because Microsoft goes out and does this a lot, but I don't ever see a complain when Sony does the same thing, but a lot of the time Sony doesn't get timed content, it's content that never comes to another console, which is worse in my opinion.

Timed content clearly works though, look at COD, I cant count all the times people were choosing which console to buy it for and then bought the 360 version because it has the maps first, hell when the games advertised on TV it just says Xbox "Jump In" and it never mentions another console.

I don't think it's a waste of resources because if you are an Xbox Live Gold member your paying for that content, paying for the exclusive beta's, demo's and content, as well as the features and things like that. It's a crafty business move, but it has really paid off when done right ie. Skyrim, COD and GTA.

punisher994038d ago

"People complain because Microsoft goes out and does this a lot, but I don't ever see a complain when Sony does the same thing,"

Because its not about Sony and MS. Its about these developers/publishers selling themselves out. Game developers these days dont care about gamers. They care about who is going to give them that extra cash first out of Sony and MS. Why dont these developers support their fans equally across all platforms?? Why must they show favoritism?? Because for them, its all about the almighty dollar.

Jek_Porkins4038d ago

Because they are a business and like every other business it's about making money.

In a day and age where third party games are the most important commodity, companies are eager to offer an edge and that age is usually accepted.

dcbronco4038d ago

Punisher if I'm a developer and someone offers me an opportunity to avoid some of the risk involved with gaming I would be thankful. Developers having to be looking at companies go out of business around them and feel as if they are in a shootout. If someone offers a shield you are a fool to turn it down.

punisher994038d ago

"Because they are a business and like every other business it's about making money."

Okay yeah. You are not wrong about that. But, they would make that money if they would just sell that DLC evenly at the same time across all platforms. Instead of settling for that quick buck from MS or Sony, they would make more money over the long haul.

Jek_Porkins4038d ago

No they wouldn't, because if you were going to buy DLC, you're going to buy it no matter who has it first. Plus the developer gets the money for the timed exclusive content.

I understand why people get angry over it, but as someone who owns every console and buys a game for a certain console based on DLC and timed content, you have to understand that it's a business and it does improve sales from time to time.

Exclusives are losing importance, there will be less and less third party exclusives next generation, so the edge will be who can get the better experience with these huge AAA third party games.

RonRico4038d ago

@Jek
No, that's not true that someone would buy the DLC no matter the release date. A game looses it charm a little after a while and that DLC might not be so appealing of it comes out a few months later than another console. I was looking forward to the Skyrim DLC on PS3 and see what happened.

dirthurts4038d ago

I don't mind timed content. I'm a pretty patient guy.
What drives me nuts is characters and content that you can't have because it's only available on other platforms.
That's just kicking around the customers.

Y_51504038d ago

There are exceptions. Like it makes sense that Kratos was exclusive to PlayStation platforms.

dirthurts4038d ago

Makes sense? Yes, but it still sucks.

ShaunCameron4038d ago

That's because the IP is owned by the hardware-manufacturer.

@ dirthurts

It is what it is. You want God Of War? Either get a Sony console or do without. Sony doesn't owe owners of rival consoles anything.

Typical-Guy4038d ago

This gen was all about Timed exclusivity and HD remakes and collections.... I hope next gen brings new games, new innovations, new IPs. Not a freaking exclusive level or a map.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7222h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18816h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio6h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga8h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21837h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga6h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan2h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus231h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10111h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos10h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-33m ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1019h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic7h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead55m ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 7h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken18h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 3h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 3h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 3h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola23h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 2h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 2h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 18h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 16h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 13h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 6h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 8h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 4h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 16h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 2h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 1h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 17h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 17h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 14h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 16h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 16h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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