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What If Microsoft’s Next Console Required An Internet Connection?

Could Microsoft destroy its consumer base’s confidence by requiring an always-online Internet connection?

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Good_Guy_Jamal4469d ago

I would not buy it. It's as simple as that for me. But I respect those that would make a different decision.

NukaCola4469d ago

Unless MS blows me away at E3, I'm not going to buy another Xbox. I was too burned this generation with the dashboard turning to windows media live, increase in online pricing, and lack of fresh games. They better show me that these runours are false or I'm out.

BlmThug4468d ago (Edited 4468d ago )

Agreed. I took a risk with MS this gen because before that, I was all Playstation gaming with the odd Nintendo handheld/console. That risk however did not truly work out and after four years of the 360, I sold it and went back to a Playstation and next gen looks like a PS4 day one purchase and maybe 5-6 years after launch, a Nextbox purchase. If there is no Always On though and Forza 5 is present, I may buy it after a year or two

Gazondaily4468d ago

Well I for one wasn't 'burned' this generation. MS took the charge for many years and for many gamers like me who play games online, it was unrivaled as a console as far as the combination of its games, social functionality and ease of use was concerned.

Whilst MS definitely needs to introduce more IP's, the importance of the likes of Halo, Forza and Gears this gen should not be underestimated. They, along with other games such as crackdown and the like gave many of us memorable experiences and the manner in which they were desgined (CO-OP based gameplay in many of these games), I got to enjoy these games with my friends.

I will however, purchase all the consoles because, in the worst case scenario where the Nextbox doesn't have many new exclusives, it will be still be the only home for seminal titles like Halo and the quality and appeal of the latter title to many gamers shouldn't be understimated.

However, Sony are clearly stepping up their game this generation. They are correcting all their mistakes; more social functionality, ease of use with no delays in enjoying your game, more gamer-centic focus. Whilst Sony may never have a Halo-killer, it will no doubt offer a wealth of experiences beyond it with the likes of Destiny and other games in its arsenal.

Still; MS deserve the benefit of the doubt because who would have thought at the beginning of this gen, that they would have come out so strongly and give the likes of Sony so much cause for concern? I certainly didn't. I thought the PS3 would obliterate the competition once it was out.

Time will tell but most important of all, I pray for an ultra-competitive generation with MS, Nintendo and Sony pulling out all the stops to ensure that we're playing on their respective platforms.

sengoku4468d ago (Edited 4468d ago )

M$ will not lose nextgen over this.
they will lose Core gamers.
they have been moving away from core gamers for years so this is no surprise to me.

make up you own mind.

for me i'm all in for PS4 because i feel it has more of the things i want for nextgen.

Baka-akaB4468d ago

While they still had/got good exclusives , it's no secret i dont feel particularly attached to MS exclusives and hate the way te handle their live services . If anything the Ips i cared about went sooner or later multiplatform , and aside from Halo , i dont care enough for their first party games to follow their next console .

Now that's my current state of mind , things could change with their ips , new or otherwise .

What wouldnt change my mind is if the console is forcefully perpetually online .

As a hint of fate , i spent a whole week with constant connection drops and my net finally dying , just because unbeknown to me some douchebag neighbor was renovating his house and manage to damage the phone line .

If i had the currently rumored 720 , what the hell would i be doing ?

Dfooster4468d ago

@sengoku. Nintendo tried moving away from the core gamers and after an initial success they have hit the cliff with the wii u. If Microsoft are following that business model then I wish them all the best.

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CarlosX3604468d ago

When I read this story, I thought "Isn't that the whole point of 'always-on' DRM?"

Yeah, no... Pass.

delboy4468d ago (Edited 4468d ago )

Ms will not lose anything.
Maybe they will lose some core customers/gamers, but that's the minority.
Even if they lose 30% of their current user base, but I think it will be less.
Anyway, there's still millions of casuals or hardcore gamers that doestn't care, all they want is to play the next CoD, BF, GoW, MGS or whatever.
Publishers will be all over it, because the revenue will jump 500% even with smaller install base.
Simple, No used games, No rentals, No piracy, No trading, and they will have total control over game prices.
It's the next step in the industry, just deal with it.
And one more thing, Ps4 doesn't require always online, that's right, but some 3rd party games require it.
In the end it will be to the publishers to decide, just like with online passes this gen.

B-radical4468d ago

Manveer Heir @manveerheir
A dear friend of mine @adam_orth is getting a lot of flak, some unfairly. Let me say he's one of the good guys and cut him some slack please

GraveLord4468d ago

It really is that simple. Limit what your console can do and you limit the amount of customers. The video game industry will be fine though. There are alternatives.

3-4-54468d ago

if it has to be always on, and there are a few other iffy things about it, then it might be the first time I buy a Sony Console.

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urwifeminder4468d ago

I will get one day one with drm or without or blocking games for me its not a factor, i allways enjoyed the games they make and will make it my 2nd main gaming unit next to pc.

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‘I think Xbox hardware is dead’, says Microsoft gaming veteran

One of the founding members of the Xbox team has questioned Microsoft’s multiplatform gaming strategy, and said they believe the Xbox hardware business is effectively “dead"

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Goodguy0122h ago

Think that rumor that they'll still make a new console but at a profit at $1000 will be true though. The series consoles will remain their cheap alternative throughout next gen I would say. Keep in mind that game pass and pretty much going 3rd party is their main focus. They want to bring xbox everywhere.

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GamerRN2h ago

If they don't maintain some kind of console presence, I think they will lose gamepass subscribers and just become a 3rd party publisher who eventually sells everything off

Cacabunga1h ago

Xbox games are releasing on all platforms. Who needs this hardware? PS or PC is all you need

Flewid6387m ago

I've never owned an Xbox in my life and I have GamePass.

crazyCoconuts29m ago

Even if they could get it down to $800 for a box that can run with comparable performance to a PS6 (at, say $200 cheaper) the population of people willing to buy such a thing would be so limited.
It would be the worst of both worlds.

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Futureshark11h ago

A slow, painful and public death too.

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils1d 21h ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent751d 4h ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

YourMommySpoils20h ago

@Bathyj hard to compute ay. Xbox was never better than a PC and that's all they ever were. A demo box. Doesn't get more true than that.

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isarai3d ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning772d ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher2d ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor2d ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde1d 23h ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z1d 12h ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey861d 7h ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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Microsoft planning “major” Xbox layoffs next week

The cuts are expected to be announced next week.

Microsoft is also planning thousands of job cuts that will impact other parts of it businesses

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Obscure_Observer6d ago

MFs has been beating their chests over great quarterly results and big profits to shareholders while firing people by the thousands just like Sony.

I wonder if at the top of those rumored layoffs they´ll also cancel upcoming or unannounced games while shutting down more studios as well.

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pwnmaster30006d ago

Always got to throw shade at Sony smh.
Yes we get it,
MS good Sony bad
MS bad Sony is also bad lmao

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Obscure_Observer6d ago

F* them both!

Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares.

blacktiger6d ago

He was talking about both. Why you getting offended when he's using both names

pwnmaster30006d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@Blacktiger

Im not offended , that’s just his formula lol
He can’t help help himself, he needs to bring Sony down when the topic involves MS.
Whether is good news for MS or bad, it some how leads to Sony doing bad lmao.
It’s actually hilarious.

InUrFoxHole5d ago

He's not wrong but im tracking what youre saying. In this case is should just be MS bad. Thats a lot of people fired

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Tacoboto6d ago

"just like Sony"

Gosh you're insufferable, not everything needs to be both-sides'd. Sony's had layoffs, but nothing like what Microsoft has been doing and is continuing to do.

CrimsonWing696d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I mean, no offense, but this is why you’re not some corporate business person running a major corporation. Big profits don’t mean jobs are safe. Do you understand why things like this happen:

Cutting jobs to maintain or increase profitability, especially in underperforming divisions like parts of Xbox like other gaming divisions.

Corporate restructuring and relocating resources for strategic stability in ever changing markets and consumer behaviors.

Investor expectations and optimizing operations to maintain investor confidence. Whatever boosts stock prices and improves future margins.

And there’s many other factors at play. It’s never as simple as business doing well, everyone’s safe. That’s just you not understanding at all how corporations work and have been working since the beginning. This isn’t something that’s specific to Xbox, you can bet your ass Sony and Nintendo do this and if it’s not clear by now, game development is not a stable job nor has it ever been for many. A lot of developers are contractors and guess what happens when a project is done?

Ganif6d ago

Nintendo said they have no plans for layoffs, and you can't seriously claim that the scale of Sony's layoffs most of which involved Bungie which is self managed as even close to the same scale as what Microsoft has done since they purchased Zenimax. And that significantly less layoffs would have happened if those publishers had stayed independent. Keep in mind that much of these layoffs have been due to redundancies specifically related to these buyouts.

CrimsonWing696d ago (Edited 6d ago )

@Ganif

Nintendo:

https://gamerant.com/ninten...

Sony:

https://gamerant.com/playst...

https://techxplore.com/news...

I don’t think it’s realistic to treat Sony’s layoffs as somehow outside the norm for the industry right now. Even if Bungie is self-managed, Sony’s cuts went far beyond that like Naughty Dog, Insomniac, London Studio being shut down completely, and multiple teams across the globe took hits. These weren’t just minor adjustments.

Nintendo, I had to look up and you’re right. They seem to be an outlier, but rest assured at some point it happens. And even then there’s been layoffs, albeit a smaller amount and contractors.

Would fewer layoffs have happened if studios from acquisitions stayed independent? Maybe. But even independents have been hit hard and look at what’s happened with Embracer’s fallout, or smaller devs like Digic, Roll7, or Volition. This isn’t just a “Microsoft problem” or strictly tied to acquisitions; it’s a broader correction happening across the whole industry, and unfortunately, layoffs are a big part of that process right now.

Ganif6d ago

From your article:

"According to reports, Nintendo of America restructured its testing operations, leading to layoffs of about 120 contractors, part of a strategy for global integration.

Nintendo of America, publisher of iconic franchises like Mario and Zelda, is shifting some contractors to full-time roles for better development integration."

Contractors are not employees, and even if you want to count them as that, it's 120 people vs around 7500 since Microsoft purchased Zenimax.

In an era of game industry layoffs, Nintendo is hiring more people
https://automaton-media.com...

Nintendo Announces 10 Percent Pay Raise For Devs Despite Lower Profits
https://kotaku.com/nintendo...

Nintendo CEO’s refusal to layoff staff goes viral following industry-wide cuts
"Satoru Iwata took pay cuts to ensure staff didn’t have to be let go"
https://www.nme.com/news/ga...

And as for Sony you're comparing less than 1000 total jobs to an estimated7500

Has the industry faced layoffs, yes, but that still doesn't account for the mass layoffs due to redundancies that was easily predictable, or that fact that at least 1/3 of Microsoft's layoffs and studio closures happened before the industry downturn.

thorstein6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Take the L, Crimson.

People hate Nintendo, but Ganif proved why they deserve support.

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-Foxtrot6d ago

It's like banging your head off a wall, he just can't help himself.

Microsoft can do no wrong, Sony sucks at everything and Nintendo is bigged up because it's less hassle than trying to defend Microsoft all the time

What's going to happen when Microsoft finally turn completely third party, then what?

anast6d ago

I enjoy Obscure. Obscure does good work.

crazyCoconuts6d ago

Did you know that the first n4g was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program.

Tacoboto6d ago

I wouldn't be surprised at this point if anast and osbcure were both alts for the Admin.

We know how Obscure especially drums up additional comments and clicks with his spam-worthy remarks that somehow never get moderated

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Profchaos5d ago

Thats business present a strong front to your shareholders while your company burns around you.

Keep shareholders happy at all costs andnif not happy keep them numb to the reality of you organisation

Angyobangyo5d ago

" Just for the record, I don´t care about your victim complex crap either. Find someone else who cares. "

Just for the record, you clearly you do if you have to vent this hard.

TheExecutioner5d ago

Basically you think like kids when it come to choose between candy or chocolate.

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Are you and Anast the same person?

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