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PS4 Vs PC Unreal Engine 4 Demon Knight Comparison

Gaming Blend "At first the PS4's Unreal Engine 4 demo looks like it contains the same kind of parity as the PC Demon Knight demo, but after things really start cooking and the effects start flying, we begin to see that the parity is not the same and there is an obvious gap in the visual fidelity between the PS4 real-time demo and the PC demo from a year ago."

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THE-COMMANDER1606d ago

That guy uses the word "obviously" a lot!

Gaming1011606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

Given this is an old tech demo, it was likely created on old dev kits. Previous dev kits did not have full PS4 specs, and I doubt this early in the game devs have completely utilized all of the final hardware capabilities.

thechosenone1606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

The fact that they weren't able to get dynamic lighting in their engine to run on next-gen consoles
tells me that they didn't really put that much effort into it developing their software for consoles. If CryEngine 3, FB2 , Fox Engine, Guerrilla Games and a few others were able of achieving this on the PS3 then U4 with next-gen hardware should of had no issues at all.

thechosenone1606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

Even NVIDIA themselves are reporting that the 720 will be less powerful than the PS4. Hot damn!

all you need to see right here
http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

Nick_5151606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

I watched the videos side by side, thanks to Ambrosia's links below. Most of it looks exactly the same, some of it looks better on the old one, a tiny bit looks better in certain areas on the PS4 one.

The screenshot on the article is the thing that probably stands out the most. I think they just need more time with the PS4. Also, like everyone keeps claiming (and we already knew), they don't have access to the full PS4 kit, yet.

Also, I don't know what he's talking about with physics differences... I didn't see anything like that.

It's too close for it to actually make a difference to me. I mean, some parts even look sharper on the PS4 one. I don't know what everyone's complaining about.

There are a lot of links that suggest that this was done in a hurry and not optimized at all. Plus, that's with the old dev kits.

NewMonday1606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

3 main things make the difference:

* Sparse Voxel Octree Global Illumination (SVOGI) is a lighting system that Epic didn't put in the PS4 UE4 engine

* the GTX680 can do 3.1 TFLOPS, the PS4 1.8 TFLOPS

*the PC used for the demo has 16gb of DDR3 RAM, and the GPU has 2gb of GDDR5 ram.

the demo was made on the PS4 Devkit according to Epic, IMOO very impressive if it is this close to the top of the line PC.

g2gshow1606d ago

obviously obvious for sure

PLASTICA-MAN1606d ago

Therevis a more elaborate discussion in Neogaf thannin this article:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

AsimLeonheart1606d ago

Man, we all know that PC will always be more powerful than consoles because they are customizable with no cost limits for consumers. What is wrong with these PC elitists? Why do you people waste so much of your time trying to prove that consoles are weaker? Console manufacturers have to make consoles which are affordable! They cannot put GTX Titan/Radeon 7990 in a console then sell it for $400 to keep it affordable while taking immense losses or sell it for $1500 to make a profit while not selling enough. Consoles have to balance power and price; thus making them weaker than PC. PC Master Race! I yield! I always acknowledged that consoles are weaker so please leave us in peace now!

hakis861606d ago

All in all it is VERY close to that of a high-end PC, which is impressive!

I don't know why, but in some of the screens the PC version uses (volumetric?) fog in the background, which is taxing, but at the same time relieves it from drawing the actual background (in the PS4 version you can see out the open door).

And the lighting seems very different in some screens - why?

Cupid_Viper_31606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

I just shake my head in dissapointment when read some of these comments coming from some in the PC community. I always had the impression that you guys, of all people, would have a better understand of how power works.

I'm no techie, but I fully understand that a top of the line PC is many times more powerful than a console. The same way I understand that V8 Corvette CR1 or Ferrari Italia with some 500 HP is more porwerful than my motorcycle, which is a 636 Kawasaki Ninja with just 115 HP.

But you best believe that my Ninja which cost me $6000.00 can keep up with your $150K Ferrari, or supped up Skyline R34, or whatever type of car you pull up next to me with.

And I think that's the whole point of a console really. People have cars to do more than just one thing like, going to work, bringing kids to school, groceries, some have trucks for heavy-duty work, etc. And than there are cars built for petrol heads, and they can customize them, and make them faster, and even race them.
But a motorcycle is mostly built for 2 things, which "riding" and "riding fast". So you're looking at a machine with its sole purpose being "speed", so it's been designed specically for that. So it's very small, very light, doesn't use much gas, only needs 2 wheels, Radial tires (very different than car tires) and doesnt need a huge engine like car either. It doesn't have seat belts, airbags, no AC units, none of these stuff. Simple turn the key, and get on the throttle.

So I think some of you have shown that despite all of your knowledge of computers and specs, you guys haven't quite grasp the fundamentals difference between dedicated machine, and a PC.

thechosenone1606d ago

@newmonday

"Sparse Voxel Octree Global Illumination (SVOGI) is a lighting system that Epic didn't put in the PS4 UE4 engine"

SVOGI won't be featured on any console not just the PS4.

RumbleFish1606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

@Cupid_Viper_3: The whole point of a console is that you pay much more money for the games and you are bound to a hardware that can't be upgraded and is not a bit, but much less powerful than a one year old PC when it is not even released!
On top of that you cant compare a console and a motor bike to a PC and a Ferrari! The motor bike is much lighter and and you will be wet when it rains! With your PC you can do anything plus you can game plus you can upgrade plus you save much money on games that you can use to buy a Ferrari! :D

inveni01605d ago

Couldn't this difference just be changes they've made to the engine as a whole? It doesn't mean there's a difference at all.

Corpser1605d ago

Only Sony fanboys are comparing ps4 to high end PCs

Pc fanboys are comparing ps4 to low-mid end PCs

:)

_-EDMIX-_1605d ago

Epic's Mark Rein has already confirmed htat there PS4 demo was running on only 28 to 29% of the PS4's power. They didn't have time to optimize.

So.......

starchild1605d ago (Edited 1605d ago )

Guys, they 'obviously' haven't optimized it for the PS4 hardware yet. They even said as much.

Next generation will likely be just like this generation: PCs will have vastly more power, but very little to show for it unfortunately. Games are mostly made for multiple devices and the differences we see between the versions is minimal.

Even now at the end of the generation the difference in game graphics between my high-end PC and the lowly PS3 and 360 hardware really isn't that vast (aside from maybe a couple games like Crysis 3 and The Witcher 2). Better frame rates and resolution and anti-aliasing, but by and large the same graphics in most games.

Andreas-Sword1605d ago

Here is a very good Unreal Engine 4: PS4 vs PC comparison video:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

What do you think?

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dedicatedtogamers1606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

Oooh boy. Prediction time!

1 - Journalists swarm over this, claiming "PS4's hardware power was way exaggerated!"

2 - When Microsoft announces their console, Epic uses the same target video to showcase the new Unreal engine

3 - Journalists pick apart the trailer again to "prove" the NextBox is more powerful

4 - Internet explodes

5 - Six months later, it turns out the PS4 video was unoptimized code running on beta PS4 hardware, whilst the NextBox video wasnt running on the NextBox at all

6 - Internet pretends none of this ever happened

Haha, relax, people. The original UE4 trailer was running on a PC where the graphics card - just the card, mind you - is going to retail for more than the entire PS4 console.

bigrob9041606d ago

what these pc elitist don't seem to grasp is this

when you're actually playing the game the difference between what the pc does and what the next-gen consoles will do, will be moot. the diffs are there yes but it's on things you don't see unless you are actively trying to find something thats inferior in one way or another.

personally though i think that tech demo looks f'en great. i remember the first tech demo they showed one of these sites did a comparison and said how the eyes didn't look like they where on fire, but now we can clearly see in this vid that they are. also this article said the lava didn't look as good, i think his eyes needed checking.

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Nilemonitors131606d ago

I personaly don't give f*** if pc's are better, as long as consoles cost less and don't need upgrades every year im ok if they're behind, everytime I see a pc "elitist" I think to myself, do these guys have a life, or are they that stereotypical nerd ass muthaf***as, that live in mommas basement and eats pizza all day, and all they have going for them is their super computer, which by the way won't be so super when a new card comes out or whatever, you don't see a guy that has a sports car tell someone who likes a regular honda that the sports car is superior all the time, sorry abot the long rant.

Garbanjo0011606d ago

I totally agree. That kind of capability is uncanny for a system about to launch this year. Besides like someone said above it's in beta right now. Honestly, the thing that I care about is the fact that we have this kind of gaming technology right now. Either PC, Xbox or PS we have wonderful games to play right now, and that's amazing. I'm an original NES junkie, born in 84. I've played it all from Atari to 360. My grandparents would shit themselves at the graphics out today.

FlyingFoxy1606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

The thing is people don't think about other costs with consoles, often times DLC you pay for on consoles comes free on PC. You don't pay for online services monthly, games are usually always £10 cheaper than the console version.

Then comes the performance bit, get a good base system to begin with, like if you still have an i7 from 2008 there is little difference between them and the new ones for game performance if you want 1080p and 60+fps you'd pair either one with a high end video card. Unless of course we get the odd poorly coded game like Crysis.

But a lot of people make out you need to keep spending on PC's to get better than console performance which aint true, you could even sell your high end card every 2-3 years and put that cash toward a new one. Simple.

Plus PC will always have better performance, frame rates are touch and go on console. Not to mention PC has some great exclusives, online Co-op games like Killing Floor.

N4g_null1605d ago

What console gamers don't understand is the fact that the numbered of characters on screen is going to be a problem for any thing under 2tflops.

Or maybe they will just not have as many characters on screen. I think you would be happier with a pc in this situation, if you are going to play ur4 games. Hey but if you can't afford a pc with a 680 then the ps4 should be fine but seriously I don't want to hear the lame ass excuse of develOpers not optimizing code. Certain qualities take power.

jcnba281605d ago

Typical sonydrone comment. PC will always be better in terms of graphics, get over it.

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meetajhu1606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

Epic fail by Ps4. Its a shame Nvidia is telling from start that the Next gen consoles are extremely low powered and this proves it. Every game will have poor image quality.

Look at how horrible that texture on the character is on the Ps4 version. What is the use of adding 8gb DDR5(the next cell processor)? Complete disaster and fail from start

WickedLester1606d ago

The fact that you use the term "epic fail" tells me all I need to know about you.

You do realize that Nvidia will be pushing hardware of their own, right? Don't you think there's at least a little bit of an agenda on their part with all this rhetoric?

Also, I dont recall anyone claiming that next gen consoles would be as good as high end PC's. I think most reasonable gamers recognize that PC tech stays ahead of consoles and it SHOULD considering the price discrepancy. However please tell me where I can play Gran Turismo, God of War, Uncharted, Little Big Planet, Infamous, Journey, Twisted Metal, Heavy Rain, Killzone, Resistance, Demons Souls, etc on PC? Oh you cant can you? Game over!

N4g_null1605d ago

Lester the point is how much will you pay for inferior tech? Sony has to get that right or risk a vita,3ds problem or even a 3do like situation.

We know a pc can run this engine but the ps4 is a lot of hoping. Wasn't the ps3 like that for the longest time? Skyrim along with other games still suffered. I like the bar Sony is aiming for yet if the next Xbox can run unreal4 just fine or better then Sony is going to have some problems. Ms can simply upgrade the gpu instead of adding more ram.

So why get a ps4 when laptops with 680s are coming. Would you watch a blu ray with half the framerate? Almost isn't good enough when paying over $500 after taxes.

It is going to be interesting.

ijust2good1606d ago

Ok PC looks slightly better but its a £1000 plus PC VS £300-400 console. Not bad at all for a static small box, not bad at all.

The little more details on high end PC isn't gonna make a consoles weep as console gamers do not spend huge amount of time staring at the world.

Looking very closely i can say that PC version does look slightly better but as a console gamer...is that gonna make me weep and go to PC? Not a chance.

These details and others i have seen are not enough to merit it over next gen console especially when high end PC that this is run on is not worth the cost. Its something for the PC super geeks who like to spend as much time looking at the graphics an pixels as playing the damn game. If the graphics on next gen console games look similar to Killzone shadow falls, its good enough for me.

PC will have better graphics but console is all about the best exclusives and simplicity of booting the disc and ur good to play. No driver issues, no need to worry about over heads and bottle necks. Boot the game and play with our scientifically formulated controllers. Simple as.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney1606d ago (Edited 1606d ago )

People talk to much in terms of consoles matching pc and less about turning down pc to match consoles. Devs tend to do the second one.

ichimaru1605d ago

glad you know the price of the ps4

llMurcielagoll1606d ago

I was bored enough to investigate, I used Ctrl + F and I only found 2 "obviously" in the whole thing. :P