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God of War’s ‘Bros Before Hoes’ Controversy Highlights an Industry Obsessed with Sexism

Luke Halliday writes:

"Recently there has been a great deal of controversy surrounding God of War: Ascension due to a particular allegedly sexist trophy titled ‘Bros Before Hoes’. The trophy is gained after defeating a main antagonist who just so happens to be female.

The trophy gained a large deal of criticism when Rev3′s Adam Sessler reviewed the game and egregiously made a point that the trophy and by extension the entire game was misogynistic based simply on the fact that you fight and defeat a female character to gain a trophy that refers to said female as a ‘hoe’. The controversy train went wild from there, highlighting once again the industry’s obsession with finding sexism and taking offense out of anything.

The saddest part of this story is the fact that Sony Santa Monica have buckled under the controversy and have announced a patch to rename the trophy ‘Bros Before Foes’. This is quite simply ridiculous and with this whole situation, it really proves that no matter how small, no matter how painfully insignificant something is, in the gaming industry there is always going to be someone to be offended by it. It is really just sad that all this controversy stems from three words that only appear on screen for a matter of seconds..."

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militissanctus1657d ago

Have you lost your mind!? Of course they should've removed the trophy! That's terrible!

futurefrog1657d ago

Are you for real!? This is the most preposterous shit I've seen in a long time.

Trenta271657d ago

Nope. Gotta say that award goes to Simcity. Now that is preposterous...

digitaleraser1656d ago

God Of War's 'Bros Before Hos' Controversy Highlights An Industry Afraid To Grow Up

^ Fixed.

Dir_en_grey1657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

No, the trophy name fit the flow of the story.

It is sad that Sessler blew this out of proportion that everyone is just going to criticize the subject without even playing the game or even know the reason behind the trophy name.

Sessler admitted he got stuck and couldn't finish the game on time for the embargo lift for the review, so most likely just skipped the story parts, but as a journalist I don't know how you can miss such an obvious thing that the naming is tied to an event that happened earlier to the story.

It is very sad that Santa Monica decide to change the name like they did something wrong; well they didn't do anything wrong by using that trophy name.
What's wrong was some retarded people who didn't play the game judging something because they saw a word and decide to think that Sony Santa Monica is demeaning all women.

This whole matter is just political correctness nazi going overboard.

koga881657d ago

That's terrible. How do you not finish a game for review. Even if you are stuck you try and power through it for the sake of your audience. The people who have to review games should try to at least put the effort in to finish things and give their readers a fully-informed opinion. Sad that they had to buckle under the pressure and now they have to release a patch to change one letter.

Dir_en_grey1657d ago

@koga88
He said he was stuck on a part for hours and had to resort to somebody else finish the part that he got stuck on for him because otherwise he couldn't finish the game on time and write a review and edit the video etc...

His priority was not to review the game honestly, his priority was to finish his job and get the review done on time.

Pretty much implied he rushed though the game by saying so.

SAE1657d ago

I can't agree because it's brutal. But i can't disagree because this is just a game ..

Christopher1656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

***Sessler admitted he got stuck and couldn't finish the game on time for the embargo lift for the review, ***

What he said was the last trial was something he couldn't get past and he had to ask for help to get past it in order to finish the review.

None of what you say there is technically correct and sends the impression that he had no intention of finishing the game before reviewing it.

***His priority was not to review the game honestly, his priority was to finish his job and get the review done on time.***

And yet you just said he spent hours on a very small part of the game... Sounds to me like he put in enough time to review the whole game.

Realize that it's not the only thing he has to do. If he put in a full games worth of time into it or more due to his own inability to accomplish one section of the game and still saw the game play out from beginning to end, you shouldn't criticize him for doing his job, which is what he did. He played the whole game except for one part that he could not do on his own but still saw the whole game from beginning to end prior to the review. He did his job.

D_RoyJenkins1656d ago

well said, its stuff like this that makes me embarassed to be a gamer.

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Nimblest-Assassin1657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

Seriously?

In a franchise that has over the top gore and sex scenes with dozens of women... we draw the line with a trophy name

BTW

Its sad Sess never gave context to this scene

SPOILERS

The furies try to trick Kratos using a brothel, and a fury's son helps kratos kill her

I had no problems with his review... but he blew this thing way out of proportion

HammadTheBeast1656d ago

I love how they ignore the fact that the femdom fury has Kratos chained up and is torturing him, yeah, no bias there.

Blacktric1657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

Shh. You just go back to playing that "amazing" game made by always politically correct Phil Fish; Fez. Leave the actual debate to people who play games with a bit of substance.

Oh and stop getting mad over videogames.

And taking opinions of a casual guy, who can't finish a videogame, seriously... Yes, I'm talking about Sessler.

Christopher1656d ago

Just FYI, he's far from the only reviewer who has complained of the difficulty of that one section of the game.

Aceman181657d ago

Im just gonna say booooo, and that too many people are too damn over sensitive today. now when i pick up my game later today i won't have the pleasure of having this particular trophy on my list :-(

you damn complainers suck.

MikeMyers1657d ago

I think it's pretty bad. They should be encouraging women into the industry.

Blacktric1657d ago

Considering the trophy name was the idea of a female designer/producer, they are on the right track when it comes to that.

MikeMyers1656d ago

She probably knows the demographics of its userbase. Teenagers who like rap music, that love to play it lid in the background while online, but that doesn't mean she can't at least try and market beyond that. We know most owners are teenage boys who don't have a problem with this.

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discordman1657d ago

And he proves himself hypocritical with his GOW 2 review, where he calls Athena menstrual. He has no room to talk of the subject.

futurefrog1657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

It makes me angry that I used to actually like Sessler when he was on X-Play. Now I just view him as a hypocritical asshole

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney1657d ago

yes now he has a one review track record. One thing he got right is that it's not the best gow game.

morganfell1657d ago

As I said in another article on this issue he shows all the signs of an insignificant nobody struggling to be relevant.

Controversy is the last defense of the untalented hack.

The game industry is always worse off when influenced by people that have nothing to do with it.

And writers, be they bloggers or IGN employees, have nothing to do with the industry. They wrongly affect it from the outside.

Christopher1656d ago

@morganfell: I don't agree with that assessment.

Let me explain.

First, I agree Sessler went a little too far in calling this misogynistic. It's not hatred towards women. I do agree that it is a bit crude and shows the mentality behind the scenes of the game in a way that I would rather not be there. That's just me.

Second, Sessler suddenly seeing this isn't a sign of him trying to be relevant and I really don't agree that he is an untalented hack. Sessler has some great viewpoints on gaming and has done a great job in general of reviewing and promoting video games to both the gaming community and the media. What I believe is just that this is that one time that he recognized it and saw it for something he hadn't before. Perhaps recently he dealt with the topic and his was thinking too much about it or something like that. But, I don't think he goes around looking for misogyny and trying to defend whomever from it. I just think it's something that stuck with him this time.

ManDemon1657d ago

Perhaps he's more recently started "white knight"-ing. But it goes to point out, those that are fans of the game are likely not the kind to be offended by this. Only when it's been thrust into the public's eye that it's being scrutinized.

discordman1657d ago

In my opinion, it doesn't matter if his change was recent. This subject doesn't need to be relevant when females are fighting for control of their own bodies at the moment. This isn't even an issue, and for him of all people to bring it to the table..well, that's kind of absurd.

koga881657d ago

Hell, even in the video review they linked, if you watch all the way to the end he references the mini-game where you screw the two girls and "finish" and then one of the girls says she wasn't done and Sessler says that it wasn't his problem. Real good job there Sess. What a hypocrite.

SilentNegotiator1656d ago (Edited 1656d ago )

But he played as Lara Croft without short-shorts! That makes him a female rights expert!!

lol

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Canary1657d ago

It's not sexist. It's misogynist. There's a difference.

And is it a big deal? No. Not at all. It's maybe kind of a deal, I suppose, if analyzing misogyny in pop-culture is your thing.

admiralvic1657d ago

There is a difference, but one you clearly don't understand.

Misogyny is starting to become the new "go to" term for anything against women, which not only devalues the word (this is a bad thing in it of its self if you were unaware), but also makes claims seem overly dramatic.

Canary1657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

It's objectification of women. That's misogyny.

Sexism is discrimination or prejudice.

Before you accuse someone else of not understanding something, make sure YOU know what the hell you're talking about.

yewles11657d ago

Canary, look at what you just posted...

Misogyny (pron.: /mɪˈsɒdʒɪni/) is the hatred or dislike of women or girls. Misogyny can be manifested in numerous ways, including sexual discrimination, denigration of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification of women.

*facepalm*

admiralvic1657d ago

@ Canary

Perhaps if you read more than the first sentence on what sexism is, you would know what you're talking about.

"Sexism is prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex.[1] It usually refers to discrimination against women, although it can also apply to men.[2][3] Sexist attitudes may stem from traditional stereotypes of gender roles,[4][full citation needed] and may include the belief that a person of one sex is intrinsically superior to a person of the other.[5]"

Bros before Hoes is a statement that men come first, which implies superiority over women. Thus it's sexist.

Also if you had bothered to look into objectification (the link uses Sexual objectification by the way, not just the basic term...) just means viewing women as nothing more than a sexual object. Since Bros before Hoes is a statement that means men come first and women are less, there is no objectification taking place. The only way that meaning works is if you look at the term literally, which at that point makes no sense.

Good try though.

MoveTheGlow1657d ago

Look, none of you are citing Oxford, and neither am I, so let's stop being etymologists and chill for a second.

Sometimes it takes sensationalist journalism to bring attention to a very small point. The industry is changing, and Sony would rather not exclude intelligent female gamers. So, they changed the trophy. Took them all of two seconds, probs. meh.

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kaw1431657d ago

Actually, Canary, you should check your own citations. Misogyny is the hatred of women, not the objectification of them.

etebitan1657d ago

your wrong canary... misoyny is hatred towards women.. so your not using the word correctly.. also where is the objectification in the trophy??

Yodagamer1657d ago (Edited 1657d ago )

It was stupid imo to include it, but it was stupid to complain about. the reviewers who supported the sex scenes before were okay with it due to it being a fictional greek mythology (which in it's self was very sex/violent oriented). There is a difference between following source material and throwing in a dumb immature phrase. Once again it's a dumb, but i see the understanding. It's not a matter if it was a women being beat or a guy being beaten, it's the matter of being unneeded.

clintagious6501657d ago

Rename it for Adam, "She got me on lockdown".