CVG: Square Enix has swung to a loss for the first nine months of the financial year as it struggles to make a return on its investment in the 'challenging' console market.
The series turn out as expected crap, FF its dead to me now, I was so dissapointed with FFxIII and star ocean, that now I really dont care what they make. I missed Sakaguchi, good thing he made a few good title exclusive to 360.
To be honest it really pains me to see this happen to Japanese giants like SE, & Capcom, they gave in to the pressure of the western money instead of staying true to what they really are.
They could have tried to fight with honor or even die with honor.
Personally, I truly think that if SE stayed exclusive with sony's ps3, they would still be making high good,quality RPG's instead of pushing multiplatform projects and rushing them out the door for a quick profit... If you noticed SE's background in game development, you can see that when they put all their efforts into a game on one console at a time, it becomes a great success! Now that I think about it, it appears that they can't handle multiplatform projects without jeopardizing their creativity.
No. that's what you get for focusing on the wrong thing, messing up royally, then continuing along the exact same path while saying you didn't mess up in the first place. Lying your @$$ off instead of owning up to your mistakes.
I agree. It's stupid really. Why not just own up to their mistakes. From there they can continue growing, but not until they admit they were and are wrong.
As cool a FF7 remake would be I think they still need much more than that to redeem themselves but for me a good step forward is FIRE WADA! That is how I feel...
Naaah man people always want more lightning. You know why? Because SE says so. But I have the feeling if final fantasy 14 fails they will have a major problem. But the good thing about that is that wada maybe fired, damn I dislike that guy
i will be honest man. I am very disappointed with SE this gen nothing they have published on the consoles is worth my time or it is pure $heit. I just don't get how you go from making great rpg's and listening to your fan feedback to what they have become to day. But i do love all the eidos content they have been publishing. I have been playing tales of graces F this past week and man that game is soo much fun. I don't know sometimes it's better to keep your game concepts simple. graces f just has this amazing combat system and an ok story plus a lot of content. As a gamer that's all i am asking for
I think S-E decided that they need to go in an opposite direction to that their fans want them to go.
The reason?
Obviously S-E stumbled out of the gate and failed this generation: FF13 and FF14. The former turned out to be an overwhelming task development-wise and was further hampered along the way by the betrayal of Sony (going multi-platform). The latter was very low quality, rushed and released prematurely.
The result was that fans wanted S-E to admit failure, put the above games behind them, and quickly move on and go back to making successful games that followed the classic formula.
But S-E chose a different option. For them it was more important to fix FF13 and FF14 in order to maintain to integrity of the Final Fantasy list of main-series numbered games. Abandoning 13 and 14 would result in the compromise of the FF Legacy with one game a huge disappointment and story unfinished (13), and the other a complete failure (14). The line of generally successful FF games would be broken.
This historic perspective was more important to them than the immediate support of their fans. That's why, instead of making games their vocal audience wanted, they decided to fix FF13 by making a sequel with features previously missing like exploration and then develop another game that I predict will be at last a competent RPG with a good balance between story, exploration and action - Final-ly rehabilitating the FF13 project and making it more or less worthy of being on the numbered FF list. Similar with 14: do it again, from scratch, so it achieves a level of decency and deserves the place on that list.
Betrayal? Of Sony? Why do people always hold Square ONLY when a franchise jumps ship. You do realize FF started on Nintendo, should they be held accountable for their betrayal to them?
"The latter was very low quality, rushed and released prematurely."
You must be joking, say what you want about FF13 but you cannot truly believe that it was a low quality game or even rushed. And released prematurely, I mean how do you come to that conclusion?
Well, if you don't give people what they want, what do you expect to happen? That a unicorn pukes rainbows? SE has it's a shell of it's former glory...
you mean there is a rumour that versus is a ps4 exclusive and that would be a stupid thing to do considering the amount of sales on a new console vs this gen sales + amount of time it has been in development
Yet, a console with an established install base didn't even warm up to SE this entire generation? Even with multiple exclusives that never made it on the competing platform(few did) that seemed like a better fit.
I think it would be stupid to saturate consumers with 3 more Final Fantasy titles at the end of this console generation. They still have 2 confimed for release on PS3, Lightning Returns and FFIV:Realm Reborn. I don't think either are gonna do well, with all the Loathing Square is getting from their fans.
It would be a great way for Square to move on. Introduce Versus as FFXV for PS4, drop the Fabula Nova Crystallis Lore out of the story and try to get back some of the fans with a Engaging Story, Gameplay and a World you want to Explore.
Ok. What if Versus 13 is FF15 and what we saw in that brilliant tech demo displaying their new engine, was a glimpse of FF16? I'd like that to be the scenario.
Stop with all the JRPG Sh!t. And make games with stories and acting that translate well to western audiences.
Edit: I don't agree. Japan loves Nintendo and hand helds. SE can still make hand held games cheaply. But if they want to play with the big boys on PC, Xbox and PS3 they need to invest in the type of games that will sell worldwide. They may have tried to go after the western audience but they failed because they kept the terrible Japanese dialogue and art style that doesn't translate well any more.
What I wish they'd make is a Battlestation 3 now that they own Eidos.
That is what's killing them in the first place, going after the western audience. What they should be doing is make traditional jrpg's for the fanbase they had, before they started sharing a bed with Microsoft. Traditional jrpgs seems to be working out for Namco and lvl 5 cause Ninokuni is pretty much sold out across Europe.
Role-playing games from Japan are far from, what you describe as "Sh!t". Their art style isn't terrible either. Square Enix is a fantastic developer. They have just lost their way with pushing Final Fantasy XIII too much and pushing back other projects people want to see. They don't have to sell worldwide to be successful. They just need a well done, well advertised game to bring them back from the trenches.
Ha! That's what you get for selling your soul! That will learn ya.
i guess its time to unleash Cloud and Sepiroth to make an HD appearance ;-) instead of Lightning, right Sony?
Keep shoving lightning down peoples throats & thats what happens.. Go back to your roots & start fresh because whats going on now isnt working
Maybe if you give or listen to what your fans want?
Well, if you don't give people what they want, what do you expect to happen? That a unicorn pukes rainbows?
SE has it's a shell of it's former glory...
Versus is a ps4 exclusive read here
http://www.vg247.com/2013/0...