The next-gen console wars kicks off early as insider claims the Xbox 720 will outperform the PS4 quite considerably.
That rumour was debunked long ago, latest rumour says PS4 is more powerful.
So, you know, it's a new rumor.
It is indeed a new rumor, and it sounds pretty legit. It totally could be an elaborate lie of course. I still found the article fascinating. In the end it soooo doesn't matter which one looks slightly better. The PS3 is more powerful than the 360 but no one cares. It's just for bragging, like my dad can beat up your dad.
It doesn't matter all that much which one is more powerful, 3rd party game publishers often design their games around the lowest common denominator anyways. It happened on the PS2 and it happened on the Xbox 360. Of course what I just said could be a rumor as well.
I thought we all agreed nowgamer is garbage, didnt we?
This is utter bullsh*t. Their source is this: http://misterxmedia.livejou... They are trying to turn rabid fanboy dream into a credible story.
rumor: 720 not much better than 360 rumor: 720 much better than PS4 this would mean the PS3 is as good as the PS4 or even better.. makes perfect sense
http://n4g.com/news/1156716... As you might expect, this rumor is a direct contradiction and calls PS4 more powerful. So, have at it. Try not to bite one another in the comment section of my sub. (I suspect both of these will be top heat of N4G for the rest of the day they are up.)
@jaosobno "This is utter bullsh*t. Their source is this: http://misterxmedia.livejou... They are trying to turn rabid fanboy dream into a credible story." which just goes to prove how ridiculous these sites have gotten. This can't even be classed as a rumour. I thought rumour in technology magazines were bad but gaming takes it to a whole new level. That isn't a trusted source and why is a big website reporting it as such. Gaming needs a shake up with these crummy reporters needing to go. I feel embarrassed for them and I feel embarrassed to share an interest with them
@Shanks No rumor can be debunked because it's not known if it real or not, that's why it's a rumor, but considering the fact that MS has more money than Sony and the later keep losing money every quarter, it should be safe to asume MS can subsidize a more powerful console next-gen
It's a fake rumor, as it fake. If you can't see that then take off your fanboy glasses. While I was reading this I thought this was a parody of the VG247 rumor, but they're actually serious.....lucky for them people like Electric Kaibutsu are quick to believe anything they read on the internet.
The way I see it... MS caters to the #1 gaming demographic in the world...North America. Us "American's" (that's including Canadians like me) means we want the biggest and best. bigger = better is our mentality. I see MS using their vast amount of resources to produce a very powerful console and taking a large hit on it at retail in order to get it into the homes of North America citizens. Consider MS also wants the 720 to have a Kinect 2.0 unit already installed in each unit and for the console to replace (eventually) your cable box. That is a lot the console will have to do AND play Battlefield 3 PC like games. I have no doubt that MS will release a very powerful console since they can afford it making billions from XBL which will help cushion the initial loss that MS will take on each console sold until manufacturing cost become lower and MS later start turing a profit after a few years on each console sold. Lets not forget that MS is also willing to subsidise selling units. Buying cheap but have an XBL contract for X amount of years....we all know MS will actually make MORE money that way then someone buying a console outright. Win win situation. MS get's market share and returns on XBL while the consumer gets an affordable gaming unit sooner rather then later. MS have set themselves up in a really profitable position this gen. It all comes down to money. MS are worth $230 billion and Sony is worth $12 billion. It's easy enough to see that MS just have the resources to create a stronger system then Sony and sell it at a competing price against Sony. MS may lose more money on each console sold but they could outsell the PS4 to retain market share. The more 720's in homes, the more MS makes on services like XBL which would be a reoccuring revenue. Makes no sense for MS to allow thie main console competitor to get a leg up on them going into next gen when MS have fought so hard this gen to be a contending competitor in the console market. Expect MS to come out next gen with everything AND the kitchen sink crammed into the 720. Bottom line, IMO the 720 will be significantly more powerful then the PS4.
Maybe MS paid someone to spread this rumor so it gets to Sony so they can make the PS4 as powerful as the can then charge $600 again and MS release a weaker console and price it at $400. Smart Business move.
I love all this sh*t, give me more rumors! MOAR! NOWWW!
For the sanity sake, guys! This "misterxmedia" guy is a well-known here in Russia as a diehard Xbox fanboy. He's infamous for his many-years tales of fantastic graphical "x-engine" that should be soon used in X360 games and put all those Sony exclusives to shame. And he told this for about two or three years since 2009, if I remember correctly! He's an object of jokes in russian console flamewars, a synonym to utter liar. Really, even other Xbox fans don't belive him or give credits for a long time already after all those years of his lies and bs in this "misterxmedia.livejournal ". It's really embarrasing, that someone approved article from this source.
"The console has 8gig of ram. But 6 gig is ddr4 system ram.. The other 3gig is gddr5. This is not including cach or edram. The system soc is a 8850 spec gpu with 4 core cpu." Using GDDR5 + DDR4 which isn't even out and will only be used for servers at launch. Also different type RAM numbers don't add up and even they do (according to this comedy article) 6 + 3 = 8 ??? This alone turns thir rumour into a big drunk joke. Let alone mentioning the HD 9000 series and the ??? HD 10000. Series. Epic fail. Anyway I only see this farticle doing more good to Sony and Orbis than harming them: a reason why Sony should increase the power of its next-gen console.
they just updated the article with new info from VG247 which now puts into question their own rumor. xD "UPDATE: VG247 has just revealed a report of a source that has revealed to the site that the PS4 is in fact more powerful than the Xbox 720. Here the source claims the PS4 will be capable of 1.82TFlops while the Xbox 720 is capable of only 1.23 TFlops. It's a world away from the details we've posted here, but we urge you to have a read and judge for yourself. As always it's worth remember that this is all early conjecture - how true any of this is hard to gauge until we see final confirmation of the hardware."
My dads bigger then your dad
@sikbeta Actually this one can be completely debunked by anyone who knows about computer hardware. The article is a translation mess so its difficult to know for sure how he meant it but either way its bunk. It seems he was implying 2 banks of Ram again for the PS4, 1 with 4Gb DDR3 and 1 with an additional 4Gb GDDR5, GDDR5 is graphics double data rate v5, it is VRam not DIM Ram and is impossible to use as normal Ram. And even if he did mean 4Gb of VRam on the GPU, the cheapest GPU on the market right now with 4Gb of GDDR5 is $450.
Doesn't matter. If I still have to pay for xbox life than I will go for PS4. Playing online should be for free.
i am sick and tired of people thinking rumors=110% confirm
@ElectricKaibutsu Actually, the PS3 is not more powerful than the 360. This has been explained by many developers. The PS3 has a more powerful CPU (also more difficult to use), while the 360 has a more powerful GPU and better memory architecture (and more available RAM due to smaller OS footprint). So your comments is pretty far off base. Even though both consoles (PS3 and 360) are extremely close in overall power, people make a huge deal over any small difference they might perceive there to be. I don't think graphical performance is the end-all and be-all of a console's worth, but obviously many people place a very high premium on graphical capabilities.
theres no way the 720 can be more powerful thann PS4, its impossible. sony always delivers the new technology.
Rumor has it the Wii U is already more powerful than the rumored 720 and rumored PS4. And other rumors point to rumors about PC rumors having rumors of a Next-Gen console-like PC rumored to have dual Haswell Intel i7's with rumored specs of 5.5ghz clockspeeds and coupled with the Rumored GTX700 series. Just a rumor though.
@GraveLord You sure got me pegged. I'm so glad we have people like you on the Internet to show us gullible fools that of course the PS4 will definitely be more powerful. How silly of me. @Starchild To me first party PS3 games look slightly better than first party 360 games; that was my basis for thinking the PS3 is more powerful. But again, it doesn't matter. Both systems will be getting all the multiplats.
what if its true? xbox was powerful than ps2... but we all know that story
What jujubee88 says, it's from a guy talking really recently.
debunking rumor with another rumor?classic
Hehehe, I like it when rumours debunk other rumours. Rumour has it nextbox will be more powerful than ps4. Rumour 2 has it ps4 will be more powerful. Rumour 2 is newer and thus debunks rumour 1. Yay! - Your logic. And now rumour 3 comes along and says nextbox will be more powerful. The rule of rumour plus fact that its 2 vs 1 means that nextbox will be more powerful right? Or is it that rumour 2 already debunked rumour 1 and since rumour 3 is pretty much rumour 1 only newer, rumour 2 still debunks rumour 3? Rumour debunking is so confusing. A delicate art.
lol left my head spinnig..did u call me
rumor three in this case would debunk rumor two. its not a 2 v 1 scenario because rumor one was already null and void. once that happens rumor two stands alone. so if rumor three comes along and says the same thing that rumor one did, its considered still a newer rumor than rumor two and therefore debunks rumor two and leaving it to stand alone as the most accurate and up to date rumor
I'm starting a new rumor. PS5 is going to be more powerful then the PS4. Xbox 1440 is going to be more powerful then the Xbox 720. Iphone 69 is going to be more powerful then the Iphone 68.
Take your logic elsewhere it holds no meaning here! /s
iPhone 69 sounds pretty hot to me:) jokes aside when the next gen games are shown I bet 1st party PS4 exclusive games "will look the best"
The iPhone 69s is where it is at!!!
So many rumors...
The my rumour is more legit than your rumour because it's the more recent "rumour" kind of mentality needs to end...
You just can't accept that the Xbox Next will be the more powerful one can you?
you seem pretty sure of your self are you the insider ??!!
There was once a rumor started that someone else's father could beat up my father.... I countered with a similar argument in which i claimed his mother to be a lady of the night... We then straitened our top hats, and said "good day" to each other... Rumors are the worst
she was a vampire?
hey did u see that clown that hides from gay people at walmart
I think MS has enough money to sink in to make the xbox more powerful.
You bored? I'm bored! Hey! lets argue over rumors!
And here we go...
Makes sense the xbox would be more powerful: * PS3 was the first and only time a PS console wasn't the least powerful. Every other time they were the 3rd most powerful console. * Look what having the best graphics did for you PS fans ? It allowed you to have to wait years for good games. Wouldn't you rather have a console that plays tons of games and is 95% as powerful as Xbox ?
Wouldn't you rather have a console that plays tons of games and is 95% as powerful as Playstation?
Yeah the 360's launch lineup wasn't exactly overflowing with triple a quality titles, but a bunch of barely optimized xbox ports, not saying the ps3 was much better. Hello gun, ring any bells. Rfom was a good game(subjective stupid) as was motorstorm, now the next xbox is likely not going to be more powerful, simply because the ps4 is expected to launch last and the 720 first. "Look what having the best graphics did for you PS fans ? It allowed you to have to wait years for good games." Getting first party exclusives that typically curbed stomped the 360's exclusive games visually. And not getting cut down to 3 or 4 primary series and the rest third party games. It's called patience learn it. Again stupid it's a marathon, not a sprint, that is something hopefully microsoft learned. "Wouldn't you rather have a console that plays tons of games" If you want that stick to a ps3 or 360, because both systems have to rebuild their libraries from nothing at launch.
Anybody with REAL info on these consoles has signed an NDA and that means they won't be saying a damn thing so all these "insiders" are chatting crap to get hits. And guess what, If you clicked the link you did exactly what they wanted you to do. I for one ain't clicking it and this is the last topic of this I am replying on in fact its the only comparison article I have ever commented on just to let you people realize this.
Even better than a rumor, and yeah this article is debunk when you read this. Look at the specs!!!! http://www.ign.com/articles...
Tut tut lol
Boy I tell ya..these people writing this articles need to be shot. You're not encouraging healthy discourse but rather creating flamebait.. Same with the Ps4 being more powerful than the 720. Stop this bullshit please. WE DON'T REALLY KNOW.. peace
This is just in: Ps4 being developed in the international space station, xbox720 getting crafted in mars. Just so that we are clear it is a rumor about a rumor; but that's just what a hobo said to me.
This article makes more sense. Not because of console fanboyism but because everybody can see msft's "own the livingroom" strategy in progress right now(something ps3 fanboys attack MSFT/360 for) The 720 will have to be extremely powerful to run all of MSFT's next gen hybrid products and partner applications etc(kinect 2, set top box/IPTV-PC to console multi player) MSFT was strategically greedy with the price of the very successful 360(lack of pricedrops) and had made billions from XBL Gold to insure proper R&D funding for the future, giving confidence to investors to help XBL evolve. Now they need hardware to give life to their vision. LMAO at the rumor vote being voted not true in this article but in the one saying the PS3 is twice as powerful was voted mostly true
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Lol at your agrees and disagrees. Fanboys will do anything to reassure themselves.
The multitude of comments so far tells me follower its not liking the idea of xbx been more powerfull lol... Does not matter who the most powerfull is, I will enjoy the game and take for a fact that sonys game where noy up yto par with xbox 360 most games look and play better in them, those are facts, blame developers and sony for creating the cell.
real gamers cheer for innovation not a brand. i love xbox live, just hated microsofts present gen tactics. so i went with sony. I hope sony has done enough this gen to force microsoft to make a real quality console next gen, but i wont hold my breath. Id love to be able to justify buying an xbox console other then by peer pressure. microsoft definately has the budget to do it i believe theyll compete with sony on a hardware level this gen, due to the almost certainty of same year release for both platforms, and the huge success of blu ray(no more fucking dvd microsoft, its done leave it alone). microsoft are proprietary whores though so i am still concerned, and if they push kenect too hard its definitely a no for me. I hope these new consoles push the bar because i really would rather buy a new tv and console vs a new gaming pc. im a fan of specs, usability and games of course, so i dont care which but one of you two please present, and i gladly give you my money and recomend your console. ps sony really needs to get help in the software department.
You can't debunk a rumour with another rumour, unless you were joking :)
Even the guy asking questions came to the conclusion that it didnt make sense.
What's funny is that the ps3 fanbase stormed this article with no ways and doubtfull votes when the ps3 has 1.7 teraflops article has goten the hopefull and so true way of voting.So can how can there still be people on here who don't realise that this is a pro sony site featuring a few gamers from the other two console makers.
A rumor debunked by another rumor? How is that even possible? Dafuq? :D
how many rumors articles are we gonna get ?!! why can't we wait untill sony/ms show their consoles when they are ready ?!
Standard stuff though isn't it? The closer we get to an announcement as the tech is finally nailed down, the more leaks and rumours as more people on the inside are privvy to what's happening.
we don't know any thing about next gen we don't know if they will come out this year or next or ever when it happen it will happen
I stopped scanning the article when I saw, "On paper both systems are capable of 3.2TFlops of data". REALLY? Translate those last three words of nonsense - "Trillion Floating Point Operations of Data"... That's like saying you picked a herd of asparagus.
I got out of asparagus herding. Artichoke herds are more enjoyable to be around.
I don't know if this is true or not so will take this with a grain of salt but i will say one thing. Market share is irrelevant if your system does not generate enough money for you to throw a ridiculous amount of money into R&D for it's replacement. We will find out soon enough what these next gen systems will be capable of.
Both will probably be the same in power... Who ever has more money in the bank and fund R&D will have a better chance at refining their designs and making them more efficient. Last time I heard, both Sony and MS are not in the best financial situations.