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U.S. game retail navigates longest console generation

The current console generation started nearly seven years ago -- exactly how has U.S. video game retail been dealing with such an extended cycle? Gamasutra analyst Matt Matthews takes a close look.

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Blankman854704d ago

Truth time: I don't mind that this gen has been long. I love gaming but it is so darn expensive, I only got my 360 in 2008 and I'm happy that I've had 4 years with it and I wouldn't be mad @ one more year.
But that's just me and my selfish wants

Losyak4704d ago (Edited 4704d ago )

One more year, you say? Wish granted!

But, seriously, next-gen isn't coming until holiday-ish next year.

Elda4703d ago (Edited 4703d ago )

I would say thank God for the technology that's out,we don't have to go out & buy new consoles every 5yrs,now its every 8 to 10 yrs.

showtimefolks4703d ago

i agree with you 100% and i don't think neither MS or Sony are in any hurry either. They still have their systems selling for about 250-300 and they can drop the price a day before wii-u launch to steal all the thunder.

I want next gen when we can move the tech forward a bit, in my opinion we are not gonna see new systems from sony or ms till 2014. They will do what Nintendo did, show xbox720 and ps4 at next year's E3 than wait an year and show it again at E3 with a proper launch date and software support.

Why can't people accept the fact we are moving closer to 10 years cycle than ever before. These systems are so expensive and it takes a huge budget to launch and new machine along with the fact many developers are just now figuring out ps3 and xbox360 to their max.

If 2013 is the end of ps3 and xbox720 than what a year to go out, and go out with a huge bang

Gta 5
saints row 4(possibly)
metro last light
last of us
gears of war judgment
Bioshock
Tome Raider
Sly 4
Hitman(this maybe fall of this year not sure)
aliens
Insomniac's new game
Respawn new title
dead space 3
army of two
MGS title?
Last guardian

and much much more. And that is why i think we can see both sony and MS hold off on new consoles till 2014

TitanUp4703d ago

i agree and the people that feel like they want to move on and feel like they are in the next gen have already moved onto pc.

DeadlyFire4703d ago (Edited 4703d ago )

I am thinking a little differently than you.

Xbox 3 - E3 2013 debut and Q4 2013 launch!
PS4 - E3 2013 launch and Q2-Q3 2014 launch!

10 year cycle is not going to happen as mainstream 10 years just drops off the appeal with a sharp slap in the face when PC titles come around. Battlefield 3 PC vs. console versions is a clear example of this.

Consoles need short cycles to live. Yes they can sell and games could come out for them forever if they chose to let publishers publish to their platform like that. PS2 has 12 year cycle and still lives for the most part. PS3 has had 6 years. Will be 7 next year. Xbox 360 has had 8 years.

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‘I think Xbox hardware is dead’, says Microsoft gaming veteran

One of the founding members of the Xbox team has questioned Microsoft’s multiplatform gaming strategy, and said they believe the Xbox hardware business is effectively “dead"

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Goodguy011d ago

Think that rumor that they'll still make a new console but at a profit at $1000 will be true though. The series consoles will remain their cheap alternative throughout next gen I would say. Keep in mind that game pass and pretty much going 3rd party is their main focus. They want to bring xbox everywhere.

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GamerRN3h ago

If they don't maintain some kind of console presence, I think they will lose gamepass subscribers and just become a 3rd party publisher who eventually sells everything off

Cacabunga2h ago

Xbox games are releasing on all platforms. Who needs this hardware? PS or PC is all you need

Flewid6381h ago

I've never owned an Xbox in my life and I have GamePass.

thorstein21m ago

The only Xbox I owned was the 360. I have gamepass for my PC.

crazyCoconuts1h ago

Even if they could get it down to $800 for a box that can run with comparable performance to a PS6 (at, say $200 cheaper) the population of people willing to buy such a thing would be so limited.
It would be the worst of both worlds.

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Futureshark12h ago

A slow, painful and public death too.

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While Layoffs Hit the Industry, Nintendo Retains 98% of Staff Including 78 With Disabilities

TNS: Based on its most recent ESG data, Nintendo boasts a remarkably low staff turnover rate of just 1.9%, with virtually no reported layoffs.

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Jin_Sakai1d 21h ago

Because Nintendo makes great games.

Yesyes23h ago

It’s unreal that people are downvoting this when they consistently have the best scoring games on metacritic.

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rlow11d 19h ago

Well it doesn’t surprise me. As much money as they make and how they value their employees. It’s a great company in that regard.

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drivxr1d 15h ago

Well, when your games remain full price many years after release.

And you make profit off of outdated hardware.

I would be shocked if they couldn't afford to retain their staff.

lodossrage1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

I didn't want to say anything but drivxr is right.

Nintendo always sells at a profit because they purposely use tech that's always 5 or more years behind. And it's also true their games hardly ever get price decreases.

Don't get me wrong, it's great they kept most of their workforce, but making a point to have your tech specs behind everyone else affords that luxury.

Darkegg1d 10h ago

I don’t think it’s their purpose to use old tech. It’s their purpose to make value of software and know their value. Nobody makes games like them that’s for sure. I just don’t appreciate their customer unfriendly policy.

It’s not impossible to take their status. Companies need to have a selection of 8-bit and 16-bit. Now imagine a split screen for 8 player game for SNES Mario kart and selling at $9.99. The problem is that it doesn’t make profit. So many companies won’t invest in “old” technology. Everyone guns for triple AAA modern technology software but honestly we can enjoy modernized 16-bit creative ideas that allows 8-player mayhem. It’s a pipe dream, possible but impossible.

Shane Kim1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

If they ended up kicking people out after all of that stated above, it would be truly shameful.

DivineHand1251d 7h ago

Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Tesla and Meta are all trillion dollar companies yet they are laying people off in large numbers.

I believe the reason Nintendo layoffs off less workers may be a result of their culture. It seems Japanese companies believe in giving their workers long term or life long employment opportunities and will exhaust all options before laying off workers. This is something we don't see much of in the west unfortunately.

Rdeal1d 1h ago

might be something to do with the fact all those companies hire more than 20x the employees than Nintendo

LoveSpuds1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

What the hell are you talking about? It has nothing to do with how profitable they are. Its completely cultural, MS and Sony make stacks of cash and still lay folks off. Nintendo chose not to lay off staff for the same reason their execs took pay cuts to increase staff pay instead; because they value their staff and view them as colleagues, and respect them as such.

If Sony weren't so US centric I fancy they'd fare better too, they should get shot of US and European leadership and go back to when Japanese execs were running the show if you ask me!

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Looming Xbox layoffs threaten Microsoft's reputation

Even as the company sets out to overhaul the very definition of Xbox, cuts at its studios risk creating a negative image reminiscent of EA's worst era

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Jingsing3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I appreciate the article but this guy must be living in a delayed universe, The reputation was ruined 10+ years ago and hasn't recovered since. As such people have voted with their wallets and stopped buying Xbox products in large amounts.

YourMommySpoils1d 22h ago

Their reputation was lost way before that. From the moment Microsoft said they entering the console business, we all knew it would be a downgrade.

Bathyj1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

That's not true at all the OG Xbox had drive and they had hunger and they wanted to accomplish something. It was a great console.

they didn't quite reach their goals and they gave up prematurely because they couldn't win. It was halfway through the Xbox 360 when kinect released and that was when they lost their way and we're a rudderless ship ever since

Agent751d 6h ago

In all fairness, Xbox had some great games with online play, Xbox 360 even better. Xbox consoles started to die with the Xbox One. Ditch consoles for the PC and PS.

YourMommySpoils22h ago

@Bathyj hard to compute ay. Xbox was never better than a PC and that's all they ever were. A demo box. Doesn't get more true than that.

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isarai3d ago

What reputation is this threatening exactly? 😂

Lightning772d ago

Rumors of Turn 10 being either shut down or hit with massive lay offs is on the horizon.

The issue is MS will do something right only to do something very, very wrong. And they do this what seems calculative at this point. Doesn't matter what they do the Investors and leadership want more and more money an endless bottomless pit of purr insatiable greed. A company that acts like it's broke or hurting is what really, really infuriates me. They've surpassed apple again well over 3 trillion who acts like they're a million dollar company is fk stupid. Pivots and changes for no reason and can't do things for more than a year with out a pivot or changing their metrics.

Christopher2d ago

That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest.

1Victor2d ago

@christopher: “ That would be really bad since Phil just hyped up next year as a big Forza year at Summer Game Fest”
The key word big can be ether good or bad 🤷🏿only time can tell

DarXyde2d ago

First Forza being generated entirely via AI?

If any company would do it, it'd be them.

Nacho_Z1d 13h ago

Isn't the point that it's irrelevant how profitable MS is, the suits have decided it's time that the Xbox division started making them money. Hence the layoffs, the pivots.

hennessey861d 9h ago

That wouldn't surprise me, as motorsport has been heading down hill since the great number 4. Where as playground have consistently put out better games. I think the two studios will be merged under playground games banner.

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