Developer Two Tribes offered to answer questions – via Twitter – regarding Wii U’s version of Toki Tori 2.
Cant PS3/360 do 1080p without breaking a sweat...... for downloadable games, like Toki Tori 2? The real test is 1080p retail games
less talk more action. Oh and as far as breaking a sweat. Wouldnt you want to break a sweat? It means whatever you are doing is working...so to speak.
1080p retail games?! Show me Nintendo! shoooow Me! and you will gain my respect once again.
One of Wii U's first-party games are already confirmed 720p native. Along with others. http://wiiudaily.com/2012/0... And those games aren't even impressive graphically or in scale. I called it when the Wii U was announced and the big dogs of Nintendo danced around a "native 1080p" question from Geoff. I called it again when they showed that unimpressive coy/bird demo.
It doesn't take much to put on 1080 these days. I expect Sony and Microsoft will claim 1600p capable or something like that.
Wow you guys don't know much about video cards do ya. I see 6 disagrees and not one trying to say anything about why. Any decent card from the last 4+ years can push a game out on same level as PS3/X360 at 30+ fps at 1080 resolution.
@SilentNegotiator Pikmin 3 was a Wii game till last year and NSMBU is just a 2D platform and it's not really focused on graphics. If i you think this is unimpressive: http://www.youtube.com/watc... Then I think youre going to be disappointed with the next gen consoles. If youre also expecting to see a lot of PS4/x720 games with 1080p + 60fps and heavy 3D graphics.... oh well.. I feel bad for you. I hope you have a high end PC.
So couldn't a PS3 ... 6 years ago.
@Hisiru That tech demo was awesome. I wonder why they abandoned it so thoroughly? Also the version of the shuriken game in the natural looking forest is way more appealing to me than the 'Nintendo land' version. But yeah, the Wii U is capable of some awesome visuals.
New HW tends to do better stuff, it's not a surprise... at all.
@Darthv72 That's one way to look at it. Although wouldn't it be all the better if you achieved maximum resolution without breaking a sweat? It means that the console has a lot more to go on. @DeadlyFire "I see 6 disagrees and not one trying to say anything about why." You've been here over 2000 days. You know how this works. I didn't disagree with you, but at best I think 1600p will be to next gen what 1080p is for this gen; Achieveable, but a rarity. There's just no reason to invest in it yet. Current HDTV's are just starting to find a place in livingrooms, and I don't know of any that's capable of more than 1080p. 1600p will be lost on pretty much everyone, and as such will only be an added expense for the developers, too. Expecting consumers to upgrade to a new TV every generation would be absurd.
He didn't say that for Toki Tori 1080p was easy (although obviously it is), he was saying in-general. "Two Tribes thinks that the Wii U is ‘awesome’ and claims that it can display games at “1080p without breaking a sweat.”
No they asked for questions about their game on Wii U "How are the graphics turning out?? Are you guys happy on how powerful the WiiU is?” 1080p without breaking a sweat!" The question is clearly about how the graphics of their game is turning out, to which they replied it was 1080p without breaking a sweat, not surprising considering it's 2D. Nothing suggests they were talking in general. I mean how could they? They don't know what other developers are doing, in terms of graphics. Except for Nintendo's games which are all 720p, and Scribblenauts another 2D game.
"It has been confirmed that the Wii U will be able to play games at 1080p but almost every game we have seen so far has only been running at 720p. Although there has been no official confirmation from the games developers, the Nintendo reps on the Chicago Wii U Experience tour did state Batman: Arkham City – Armored Edition and Assassin’s Creed III will run natively at 1080p." http://wiiu-gamers.com/news... Either way I am getting a wiiU, ps4 & my pc so I no worries for me. Next gen starts when Metro & crysis 3 comes. http://www.youtube.com/watc...
No it isn't.
well u can say bf3 maxed on the pc is a peak of what next gen will be like.
All 3rd party retail games have been confirmed to be1080p you blind fan boys so thats assasins creed 3 and co.
Jesus, that CE3 video is amazing!
Yes because a random poster on GameFAQs that claim to have been told something by random PR reps, is a reliable source...
Crysis haha. If everything were about graphics....
Me still waiting on Phil Harris promise to play my games at 1080p
Bro, the PS3 can play at 1080p BUT it has to sacrifice graphics in the process.I don't know why so many gamers do not understand the relationship between graphics, resolution and frame-rate. People always seem to think that the next generation will bring next-gen graphics, 1080p resolution and 60 fps. All three of these things depend upon each other and the developers' choice. You see if you increase the graphics (polygon count, texture detail, physics and lighting) and display resolution (1080p or 720p), the frame rate will drop. Graphics and resolution have a inversely proportional relationship to frame-rate. If the developer's decide to maintain 60fps then they will have to sacrifice graphics. If they improve the graphics they will have to sacrifice the frame rate. Therefore the developers' settle at the 30fps so they can achieve the highest possible graphical detail at an acceptable frame-rate. It does not matters if it is next-gen or current gen; the trade off between graphics and frame rate is in the hand of the developer. The same is true for the Wii-U
is this guy thinking that gamers only look at resolution? what's the fps? AA? the machine can display 4k or 8k resolution for all I care but what's the point if the games are like slideshows?
It's pretty much implied that it runs at least 30 frames a sec. "without-breaking-a-swea t" translates pretty much to without trouble.
1080p is possible on the PS3 and Xbox360 BUT with low resolution textures and low FPS check this video:
Wipeout HD and Virtua Tennis are both 1080p/60fps and look really nice while Toki Tora 2 leave a lot to be desired: http://www.thereticule.com/...
Rayman Origins is full 1080 I think... looks superb for it too!
Well, considering that the PS3 played Ninja Gaiden at 1080p and 30fps, and Wipeout HD and Virtua Tennis run at 1080p and 60fps, so long as the WiiU is processing for one screen then it should be at 1080p and 60fps no matter. Yet everyone seems to be completely ignoring the fact that the the WiiU has the burden of prossecing for its controller(s) as well. I would assume that this is why devs are hesitant, processing for upto 3 screens in 720p is much harder than 1 in 1080p. Anyone still claiming that the WiiU is less powerful than 360/PS3 is ignorant of the obvious and you will just have to see it yourself when the WiiU releases.
wow KZ2 still looks next gen lol in most areas... specially gameplay and animations (special effects) are still unmatched next to GOW3
Uh Oh N4G! Positive WiiU news! Gotta spin it into something negative! Go!
Exactly, we were hearing this at the start of the current gen, lol. Look how well 1080p claims held up for this generation.
No thy cant and only ps 3 had one or two games that came close. Gow and kz3 All others games were 720 at best
Short, brilliant honest reply and exactly what I was going to say. 1080p for downloadable games. I cant wait for the real next gen consoles.
Why is this news a system coming out in fall 2012 should be able to do 1080p. And a system can do 1080p To whether a developer will take advantage of that is a big difference. Expect the same thing 3rd parties will be happy with 720p while 1st and 2nd party studios will help make wii u shine. 3rd parties have a job to make sure each system gets the equal looking/playing games But here is a thought when xbox720 and ps4 do come out and can get DX11 to work than how good will the wii u be? I am super exacted about playing Nintendo games in HD but lets not get ahead of our self they are only now catching up to what Sony and MS have delivered since 2005-2006. And the moment both of them release their next system they will over shadow wii u tech wise again.
nintendo stole this guys idea http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Lol the WiiU will be outdated garbage when the ps4 and 720 are out.
the same for the PS4/720. LOL
I should hope so since HD hit consoles a generation before it. Even the original XBox had Ninja Gaiden in HD. Sure it was 480p but it was also 2 generations prior to the Wii U.
Native 1080p is alot different than upscaled 540p or 720p (which is what you're dealing with on PS360 unless it's a DL game like WipeOut).
That has nothing to do with my point. It's the next console generation! If it couldn't do native 1080p then Nintendo would be half the power of it's generation...Again!
ok welcome to current gen! now if it can do [email protected] or 120fps then i'd give the system a second glance!
Native 1080p is above current gen. 60 fps (@1080p) is also confirmed.
This is very positive news for all future supporters of the Nintendo Wii U entertainment system. Just months away from being blessed with true next generation visuals, and technical prowess. A special thanks goes to the hard workers under the Nintendo umbrella. For pushing console technical specs and graphical capability to never before seen heights. 1080p will hopefully be the new standard for next Generation on competing consoles as well. Have a blessed day and happy gaming Rated E For Everyone
Why do you exist?
You sure it's coming out this year Kaos? I don't think a date has been set yet by Nintendo yet.
They have said wold wide by holiday season a lt of times. I think oct/November
As a_adji said i believe they will. Nintendo has said this year quite a few times if i remember correctly. Hopefully no delays for us long time Elite supporters.
Sure and I can get steady employment in Hollywood after Carlito's Way.
lol, you go louis!
Freaking hipster GTFO with your puffy hair and Mexican stash.
Umm, he's Puerto Rican genius lol...
Haha. That was brilliant!
He was brilliant as Jacopo in The Count of Monte Cristo. He needs more roles like that.
Someone should tell this to Nintendo, since their launch titles will be 720p, and they made the console of course.
Congrats Nintendo!! You're seven years late to the 1080p party!!
MS and Sony haven't even truly entered said party.
Yes they have, its you that haven't.
@cuddlemonkey Oh come on. Don't be ridiculous. The libraries of both the PS3 and 360 consist of maybe a small fraction of 1080p games. Nearly all the rest of the games for them are upscaled from 720p.
"Yes they have, its you that haven't." I'm seriously starting to root for the PC-guys. Console people just sound more idiotic on hardware as time goes by. They can't admit that consoles are fairly outdated as soon they are out compared to PC hardware. But when a new console is announced they say it's last gen. ( and don't give me that nonsense on quality of "exclusives" on pcs. They could easily do them )
Totally out of context title. The Wii U doesn't break a sweat playing a 2D game at 1080p... fair enough... BUT DON'T TWIST IT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE HE'S SAYING IT ABOUT ANY GAME. For fucks sake, why is the gaming media so full of shit?
I have a bad feeling about the Wii U.
I have such a good feeling about wii u Like shane from game trailers says. Its not if wii u will sell out. Its how fast. Every nintendo system has been first or second in the world profit wise at some point. And I think the wii u will continue that tradition in fine form
For a console releasing in 2012, I think a lot of people in suits would be sweating if it DIDN'T output in 1080.
I love how any Wii U story can be twisted into a negative by N4G. Textbook example right above me ^
Why is this even a topic of debate? The thing is coming out 7/8 years AFTER the Xbox 360. Shouldn't it be a GIVEN that it plays 3D games at 1080p native?
Probably because there is alot of doubt circulating, until we see proof, its all heresay.
this is the Tweet: “@Damiano_Chris: How are the graphics turning out?? Are you guys happy on how powerful the WiiU is?” 1080p without breaking a sweat! :)"
Not sure why so many people are hating on this news? The Wii U is obviously more powerful than the Xbox 360/PS3. I'm not sure some people are happy about that. I predict the Wii U is around 3x as powerful as current consoles, which would mean it could easily run 1080p 60fps. That is more then fine by me, especially when you consider the next Xbox and PlayStation are only said to be 5-6x more powerful than their current versions. That would mean that the Wii U wont be gimped as bad as people are trying to make it out to be. I admit the Wii is gimped in the power department when compared to the Xbox 360/PS3, next generation wont be nearly as obvious.