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Microsoft may own Ghostwire: Tokyo developer Tango Gameworks, but the new Xbox port is inferior across the board.
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When a Microsoft first party studio puts out a better game on PS5. Lol
• Worse Ray Traced Reflections
• RT Shadow misalignment
• Lower Resolution
• Up to 13% lower FPS
Yeah so much for MS trying to sabotage the PS version of games. Jim Ryan made that claim with COD.
Is MS doing this on purpose? Probably not.
Maybe they just have bad hardware and did the best they could on xb? Maybe S was a factor? Who knows?
MS can easily "fix" this problem in exactly that way. If this bad press gets the attention of the Eye of Sauron this won't happen again
MS is just plain incompetent, period. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure this out.
Yeah, this is a tough pill to swallow.
Just seems like the latest example of studios mis-firing once stuck in the Microsoft swamp. We all know what happened to Rare, we're seeing right now the trouble Arkane/Bethesda are having getting a game that looks and plays like Redfall to run above 30fps on series X and now we're seeing the downgrade for an existing game in Ghostwire Tokyo.
I wonder if Microsoft are just so desperate to get some games out that they're pushing the devs too hard and ending up with unpolished/unfinished products, just to hit their preferred release schedule? Or perhaps, in this case, the devs are committing to a release date on the mis-guided preconception that the series XS will be as easy and quick to develop for as the PS5 was?
Remember the excuse of Sony got marketing deals... Yeah... They must also have with redfall....
There goes Sony's theory that Microsoft would put a inferior version of their games on PS5. LOL.
Dumb af. A game that was deep in development before the deal was official, that launched a year early on PS5 would not be sabotaged ffs. They want the initial impressions of the game to be good. It wasn't a simultaneous release. They wouldn't kill their game with a garbage version day 1 just to spite Sony. Not when that was the only console at launch. Lord you try-hard fanboys are weak mfers. Childish, half formed arguments that are moronic.
Let's kill our game at launch with a broken version so it fails and then a year later release a superior version on XB that f***ing nobody will care about because the game's rep will already be in the toilet. At least have thoughtful and well supported arguments if u want to fanboy. God help the social media gaming wars. Sad, weak, rhetoric from those who can't form compelling, new ideas or rational arguments of their own.
Yes you're so right, people that don't understand sarcasm are dumb af...
Well Sony is right. They know that MS cant even make their game look good, what you think they can make a PS5 version of the game look good?
What? A jk that Sony sabotaged the XB version? Ok, i can dig but the FTC comment showed your true colors. Gangsta green? Change it. But ofc there should be no regulation in business. Great point. Let the biggest companies do anything they want. Brilliant. It's always the best thing. MS should buy Embracer and Tencent next. It helps competition. And how dare Sony oppose industry altering acquisitions that clear impact competition and revenue. No company would fight something that could drastically impact them for the negative. Petty Sony with their political connections. Luckily MS isn't petty nor has political connections. Idc if ppl can't tell sarcasm or simply disagree. 99% of fans are mouth breathing muppets with regurgitated, uninteresting thought. Both sides.
...wow...a bit of advice, learn the art of subtle sarcasm instead of insane rantings.
nice deflection. You can't even admit that a MS dev had almost a year to fine tune an UNREAL engine IP (cuz you know MS studios are allegedly masters of Unreal lol) to perfection to illustrate the differences between the two consoles and couldn't. These are the Hi-Fi Rush guys by golly. You know your GOTY dev of 2022 with the bestest game evar....well since that 2D sidescroller came and went. So much for scaling huh? Series G rears its ugly head again. No wonder they cancelled the PS5 version of Starfield, they can't handle the fallout (pun intended)
You should really start charging rent instead of letting MS live rent free in your head.
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Oh, they will, just like the Xbox One and Xbox One S fire sales during last gen.
Shinji Mikami has just confirmed his exit from Tango Gameworks after 12 years as its founder, but his history in the industry goes back much further.
Tango Gameworks' founder and CEO, Shinji Mikami, is set to leave the studio after more than 12 years with the developer.
That's disappointing that he's left as he is a genuine talent. When big companies buy out studios the staff are often offered golden handcuffs money to stay on for a set period of time so there isn't an immediate mass people drain (Sony did this when buying Bungie). He must've met the terms of his contract to leave of serving a minimum period of time and delivering a completed game.
Tango Gameworks was founded by Mikami, it was his baby, what could've made him leave it?
It's sudden and I do wish him all the best. He's made some timeless classics. I think IRetrouk might be onto something. I don't want to feed speculation that he didn't like the work culture as a part of Microsoft Game Studios, but perhaps he just wants to do his own thing. It's really hard not to think the acquisition had something to do with it though: Tango was his baby....
I would really love to see him over at Bokeh, but doing his own thing is fine too.
Well in all honesty if I picked 10 games publishers I would like to work for, Microsoft would not make that list.
What happened is that he's 57 and likely wants to retire. I wish him the best as he accomplished everything he wanted to in the gaming space.
He left the studio in great hands with John Johanes (director of Hi-Fi Rush and Evil Within 2).
I remember when Toshihiro Nagoshi left RGG and there was a lot of "fake outrage". Meanwhile, Yakuza 7 was the most successful game in the franchise and Nagoshi didn't write or direct that game.
Bathyj,
The wild thing about that:
If you want creative freedom, definitely not Microsoft.
If you want job security... Also not Microsoft.
They certainly have the best ability to maintain talent, but as the richest, they're certainly more American and more cutthroat.
"If you want creative freedom, definitely not Microsoft.
If you want job security... Also not Microsoft."
I have to agree with you on that
@DarXyde:
By all rights that, given recourses, they should be able to make games on a consistent basis.
There's certainly little evidence of that.
@DarXyde
"If you want creative freedom, definitely not Microsoft."
I´ve been seen plenty of more creative freedom on Xbox since those new studios were acquired/created than I´ve been seen on Playstation 5.
Fable
Bleeding Edge
Grounded
Avowed
Redfall
Everwild
Pentiment
Also, those who wants to do sequels and upgrade their franchises from Indie and AA to full AAA, is getting their projects greenlit and granted with support and resources to do so as Ninja Theory with Hellblade 2 and Undead Labs with State of Decay 3. It´s also known that InXile is currently working on an ambitious new IP, AAA action RPG as Compulsion Games with Project Midnight.
So if you know for a FACT that Sony is allowing more freedom for it´s developers and doing better than Xbox is doing in this current generation, bring the facts as I did.
"If you want job security... Also not Microsoft."
Why?
"They certainly have the best ability to maintain talent, but as the richest, they're certainly more American and more cutthroat."
Is that right?
https://www.videogameschron...
https://www.theverge.com/20...
https://www.asianews.it/new...
He said in an interview a while ago that he wanted to retire soon that he had one more big game and two smaller games before he did so. Maybe he finally decided to retire just Google it for the interview.
@Orchard, he waited till his contract was up. Why would a talented creator like Shinji want to work for a bloated, creatively bankrupt company like Microsoft longterm. I suspect we will see more of this.
May have been that his contract is now up & didn't want any longer to work for the company that it's now owned by MS/XB. I wouldn't be surprised if more of this will be happening within Bethesda.
Orchard, 3 years isn't long to be honest, he probably wanted to finish both Hi-Fi Rush until release and his contract. He does not seem interested in continuing his career under Microsoft.
I mean if you look at his resume he moves around. 16 years at Capcom on different teams, 3 years at Platinum, and now 12 years at Tango Gameworks. Maybe he just wants to do something else? It's better than Ken Levine firing over 80% of Irrational and rebranding just because he wanted to work on smaller projects.
@Sierra
Do you have any knowledge showing otherwise? I mean back in 2020 he was already thinking about retiring, but he wanted to direct one more game before doing so.
That confirms Evil Within franchise won't be the same without him
There's no guarantee TEW 3 would have ever been the same. Ghostwire started development as TEW 3 and changed direction so much they had to turn it into a different game. That's an indication that they aren't interested in making a sequel like the first two.
I´m assuming that you don´t even know what you´re talking about.
The original was the first and the last The Evil Within game direct by him.
The Evil Within 2 was directed by Hi-Fi Rush´s director, John Johanas.
It´s sad to see him leave, but Evil Within franchise will be on good/competent hands.
Evil Within 2 actually did worse in sales old man 😂
I doubt we'll hear anything about a third entry anytime soon. The first game sold 4+ million copies. The second one sold almost four times less.
The first game was aimed at a niche audience. I think a lot of the casual players got burned by the somewhat rocky launch of the original. Also, both Kidman dlcs were essential to understand the story and not many players bought them, I can see why the sequel received less attention. I think that's why Tango decided to make it more "mainstream" both in gameplay, story and presentation. Shame it didn't meet the expectations. Without Shinji Mikami the franchise will get worse and won't be the same rather you like it or not.
@Sonic1881
"Evil Within 2 actually did worse in sales and reviews old man"
Lol. And I say you´re full of sh!t. XD
https://www.metacritic.com/...
https://www.metacritic.com/...
"I doubt we'll hear anything about a third entry anytime soon."
We already hear it, genius.
https://n4g.com/news/253574...
"The first game sold 4+ million copies. The second one sold almost four times less."
Bring the source
"Without Shinji Mikami the franchise will get worse"
I doubt that. With all of Microsoft´s resources at their disposal, John Johanas and Tango Team will have everything they need to deliver a high quality AAA horror game.
Lol, the games were in the 70 😂😂 it was mediocre at best and the sales were awful for the second game. If there is a third game the sales will be even worse since it will be on game pass 😂 Look up the source yourself for the sales. The second game did way worse😂
https://steamcommunity.com/...
https://www.vgchartz.com/ga...
Obscure
I found this
https://www.vgchartz.com/ga...
Says about 1.05 million sold for evil within 2
I enjoyed it and would love a 3rd one myself.
@Sonic1881
"The first game sold 4+ million copies. The second one sold almost four times less."
I knew you were lying. It´s not even 2x.
The Evil Within - 1.86 Million
The Evil Within 2 - 1.05 Million
https://www.vgchartz.com/ga...
https://www.vgchartz.com/ga...
Keep your FUD BS to yourself, you can´t fool me. We´re done here.
@shinoff2183
"I found this"
Thanks!
"I enjoyed it and would love a 3rd one myself."
Chances are we might get it, all easter eggs related to EW in Hi-Fi Rush points to a new Evil Within game.
Fingers crossed!
@Obscure_Observer
You're making yourself look bad. The game didn't sell well anyway 😂😂😂 BTW I don't think that's the official sales from the first game. Interesting you call me a liar when you don't even know me OLD MAN that acts like a kid 😂😂
Because when someone leaves it's always MS fault some how. despite the fact they have creative freedom and operate semi independent. Even had say on Hi FI rush handling and shadow drop. They even had a Evil Within Easter Egg in the game. Pointing out the game is in the works right now.
Maybe, I don't know... He wants to retire? Let's be mature about it.
I guess he didn't want to deal with Microsoft imo because retirement these days varies from age to age I know Kojima is quite old as well and still makes games but I could be wrong.
Old?
Kojima is 59.
Hayao Miyazaki is old. Shigeru Miyamoto is old.
Koji has a way to go yet. Retirement is like 75 in Japan, and all of these gentlemen are workhorses who probably wouldn't retire then anyways.
Health willing, we've probably got at least another 20 years of Kojima in the tank, whether it's making games or movies, or writing books.
LOGICWINS,
Yeah, he can totally pass for a 35 year old with salt and pepper. He's aging quite graciously.
Humble brag moment for me: I was 26 or 27 years ago when I got pulled over for speeding and they expected me to have a junior license.... With a full beard.
I think I'm on track to pull a Kojima. 🙂
Not so much now. I don't have hair anymore.
Replies(3)Well that’s a shame - but he leaves behind a great studio after ~13 years, and a set of great IPs with Evil Within, Ghostwire and Hi-Fi Rush.
Sadly, with Microsofts track record, he left a great studio in the hands of a company that has no idea what to do with their other studios.
@Stonehottruth
When you releases one good game every 12 months, of course there would be more concurrent players lol, Horizon is a old game for PS gamers, I finished in last April.
