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Microsoft On 1st Party Studios: Naughty Dog Is "A Special Studio", "They Are Unique"

Microsoft On 1st Party Studios: Naughty Dog Is "A Special Studio", "They Are Unique"

xHeavYx4178d ago (Edited 4178d ago )

ND is an amazing studio, props to Phil Spencer for the good words

GarrusVakarian4178d ago (Edited 4178d ago )

They sure are. Watching the making of TLOU made me appreciate them as a studio even more. They remind me of Bungie, so passionate and dedicated to their games while also knowing how to have a fun time and coming across and really nice, genuine people who are still very much in touch with gamers.

Hatsune-Miku4178d ago

Naughty dog is the best game development studio in the gaming industry today and they are apart of why sony is the best video game company with PlayStation

bocajbee4178d ago

Naughty Dog and Bungie are known to be close partners/work together. So I'm not surprised.

MONOLITHICIDE4177d ago

Didnt Bungie actually help naughty dog develop their multiplayer for Uncharted 2 and 3. i thought i watched a video on that a few months prior to the release of Uncharted 2.

AndrewLB4177d ago

ND is a good studio, but i'd argue that Valve and Bethesda are the top two. I would have also put Bioware in the top 3 up until they destroyed the Mass Effect series with that horrible ending.

calis4177d ago

"Didnt Bungie actually help naughty dog develop their multiplayer for Uncharted 2 and 3. "

Wasn't there a thank you to Bungie in Uncharted 2 credits and people went nuts with all sorts of conspiracy theories?

mewhy324177d ago

naughty dog is an amazing studio. IMO they're the most talented studio on the planet. I can't wait to see what happens on PS4.

UnHoly_One4177d ago

They are the ones all of my Xbox-only friends regularly mention and say "I wish we had them", or "they are the only reason I would consider a playstation".

They make good games but at the risk of getting attacked I don't think as highly of the UC games as most others do.

I much prefer the God of War games myself, and inFAMOUS. Those are the two franchises I would bring up if somebody asked me "I already have an Xbox, why should I get a PS?"

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webeblazing4178d ago

MS needs to improve and invest in more studio than worrying about others. how many devs under they belt they destroyed. they are up there with ea and capcom when it comes that.

Sitdown4178d ago

So giving a compliment to another studio is now considered worrying about them and consumes so much of their time. Geeeeez. Why not glad Microsoft sees a quality studio, and hopefully they will work to nurture their own studios to where they can be great?

webeblazing4178d ago

not saying that its just they need to start making the games they customers want and invest in their devs. MS always do things half @$$

MxRBrobaFett4177d ago

I wouldn't say complimenting another studio is considered worrying about them.

CertifiedGamer4171d ago

Microsoft problem is that they have an EA mentality where they won't delay a game even if it sucks or is not ready. Sony on the other hand would rather let developers release the game when it has met the gaming development teams vision.

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MightyNoX4178d ago

Was he the one who said "We don't need 1st party studios" or was that Greenberg, I forget.

Max-Zorin4178d ago

It was most likely Greenberg.

mrpsychoticstalker4178d ago

Not to worry, microsoft has excellent studios as well.

The only thing is, Microsoft's first party titles outsell Sony's by quite a large margin. For example, Killzone 3 had sales of 2.2 million world wide, while Halo: Reach had sales of 8.89 globally. I think those are pretty comparable titles in terms of being the big-budget first person shooters from each respective company. Another comparison, the total sales of the Gears of War franchise are about 18 million worldwide. Compare that to the uncharted series (I am using these two because they are each trilogies) which has sold 13 3/4 million worldwide.

So I think that Sony definitely has MORE first party releases that are of a high quality, but you could argue that Microsoft has the more popular first party titles.

Ezz20134178d ago (Edited 4178d ago )

well,sales=/=quality
also
http://www.vg247.com/2012/0...

and TLOU is around 5 million now or even more

Aceman184178d ago

you're numbers are off

Gears 4 titles total 20 mil
Uncharted 4 titles (3 PS3, 1 Vita) 18.4 mil

and if you take away the extra game then its

Gears 18.5
Uncharted 17.2

Mac4204178d ago

Your numbers are alright, that's not my problem. It's the fact that Sony has about 100 more 1st party games that actually sell well over 250,000 copies. While MS had Halo other then that, they don't have much. Can't compare or even bring Gears up, it's not a MS owned Studio. So most of your logic is pointless....

DialgaMarine4178d ago

Last I checked, ND stated the Uncharted series had sold over 17 million copies, back around the time that Golden Abyss released. Surely, the numbers have risen a lot higher than that since. I'd say the UC series is closer to 22/23 million by no. Granted, the Gears series has probably sold more, but we have never heard an official word on it from Epic.

Oh, and just saying, Uncharted 3 has sold more than Gears 3, while Golden Abyss has sold just about .7M less than Judgement.

DialgaMarine4178d ago

Last I checked, ND stated the Uncharted series had sold over 17 million copies, back around the time that Golden Abyss released. Surely, the numbers have risen a lot higher than that since. I'd say the UC series is closer to 22/23 million by now. Granted, the Gears series has probably sold more, but we have never heard an official word on it from Epic.

Oh, and just saying, Uncharted 3 has sold more than Gears 3, while Golden Abyss has sold just about .7M less than Judgement.

Fluke_Skywalker4178d ago

What King_George said.
I think you'll find GT5 probably sold more than the entire Forza franchise to date.

Tontus4178d ago

@DialgaMarine

Uncharted series has sold around 19 - 20 million copies, don't know where you're getting 22-23 from. Gears of War series has sold 21-22 million.

And Uncharted is nowhere near as big as the Gears of War trilogy, it's only as big as it is due to mass bundling, it's really not a popular franchise if not for being giving away for free with PS3 systems.

Uncharted 3 hasn't outsold Gears of War 3 actually, according to GFK UC3 has been overtracked in Europe (proper elsewhere too) and Gears of War 3 had been undertracked ww. They've sold about the same BUT Gears of War 3 didn't have any mass bundling, only a limted edition console bundle whereas Uncharted 3 was mass bundled for years which is the only reason it has passed 5m. Also Gears of War 3 sold over 3 MILLION in 1 week, more than double UC3.

A better comparison would be God of War III vs Gears of War 3 since they both sold over 6 million without mass bundling, Ascension & Judgment are selling fairly similarly too.

Plasticgearsolid4178d ago

Halo and gears are their only big exclusives.

Mr-Dude4178d ago

I thought sales didn't matter anymore or do they now? I'm confused...

trouble_bubble4177d ago

Dude your numbers are so off. You're not only cherry picking but under tracking killzone as well. Both infamous games outsold both crackdowns, gran turismo has always outsold forza by a country mile. LBP1 alone did over 5 million. God of War has always sold millions, naughty dog launched 2 new IPs this gen and sold millions on every title. Hell, Bungie isn't even a first party anymore. What's your angle?

Chevalier4177d ago

So how about gran turismo? They have moved over 70 million units. Gran Turismo 5 sold 10.5-11 million units which beats Forza 4/5/Horizon combined! In fact all the Forza's combined barely beat Gran Turismo 5.

Also since when is Epic games a 1st party studio?! MS doesn't even own the Gears of War IP they only published the games under their microsoft studio label. So yeah NOT a first party title at all.

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isa_scout4178d ago

I absolutely agree, and I love that Phil Spencer had such kind words to say about a rival companies internal studio. This should be a lesson for a lot of people to follow...We don't all have to like or enjoy the same system, but we don't need to have such animosity toward one another either.

Angeljuice4177d ago

No chance of that happening here I'm afraid. There are similar sites where members are treated with a lot more respect and can actually debate issues without it turning into an insult fest.

Unfortunately, this site has too many belligerent, opinionated people who would rather just gang up and attack anybody who dares to express any point of view that doesn't fit in with the excepted norm.

If you're looking for a more adult, open-minded forum try somewhere like E-mpire.

assdan4178d ago

Phil spencer is the only guy from the xbox team that I don't hate. He actually seems to make genuine statements that don't seem completely full of crap.

andrewsqual4178d ago

So are all Sony studios that make their own game engines ^_^.

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starchild4177d ago

Naughty Dog truly is a special studio. They haven't put out a game that I didn't enjoy immensely.

To be honest, Naughty Dog is the golden feather in Sony's hat and the biggest reason for owning a Sony console.

C-H-E-F4177d ago

Well if he said otherwise the world would blackball him and he knows it. The best thing for him and other microsoft heads to do is to give Sony credit anything less will make them seem like the step child of the devil himself

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XiSasukeUchiha4178d ago (Edited 4178d ago )

Phil Spencer thank you for the good words

Blaze9294178d ago

why are you thanking him? Do you work for Naughty Dog? This attachment some of you "gamers" have to these companies is truly...amazing.

GarrusVakarian4178d ago (Edited 4178d ago )

It's the same as anything in life that emotionally affects you in a positive way, you develop an attachment/appreciation for them making you feel that way. Im not saying it's ok to worship the ground they walk on but i can see why ND has so much love from gamers.

And to be honest....in an industry full of devs/pubs that are in it purely to make money and treat us like walking ATM's *cough* EA*cough*.....it's nice to have devs that are so passionate about games/gaming and actually care about their fans as well as making money.

xHeavYx4178d ago

@Blaze
Please, don't talk about "attachment" when you try to defend MS any chance you have. Someone known to dish on MS makes one positive comment regarding MS and that's your response?

PS4isKing_824178d ago

Like your attachment to microsoft and xbox 720p?

BlackTar1874178d ago

Blaze was set on fireeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

lol.

ThanatosDMC4178d ago

@Blaze929

He might be. You never know.

loulou4178d ago

come on, you lot surely are not trying to say that blaze is an xbox fanboy, whilst trying to pretend that you yourselfs are not sony soldiers??

lol the only reason why you can get away with it is because n4g is drowing in sony fanboys..

on topic. i have been enjoying naughty dog games since the 90s. they are without doubt special

BlackTar1874178d ago

Loulou,

i think you're taking an awful big liberty in assumption.

What everyone is pointing out is the hypocrisy within Blazes statement. It doesn't matter what you are or i am or anyone else. It does not take away from the point everyone is making. The statement is still true 100%.

Unless you disagree. Then that's another story but luckily for everyone on this thread here no one has anything to worry about there is no way you can read Blazes history and come to any other conclusion.

solidjun54177d ago

Ironic since you, as a "gamer," have one of the biggest attachments to Microsoft. I'm sure you thank MS every night.

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snookiegamer4178d ago

Yeah nice humble acknowledgement...now put down the check book Phil lol :)

pyramidshead4178d ago

They wouldn't be for sale anyway haha.

LexHazard794177d ago

But if they were for sale MS would be the only out of the 3 console makers to afford them. Off topic but true!

pyramidshead4177d ago

@BakPAin

Sometimes creative freedom can turn down the biggest lumps of money :P

Quantic Dream is a good example. Heavy Rain could have been on the 360 but MS turned them down and/or tried to change the way the studio wanted the game to be because of its content. Sony let them do what they wanted to do.

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worldwidegaming4178d ago

If microsoft could, they would...

stuna14178d ago

But they can't, so they ain't! All in all, it's always good when a competitor can appreciate the competitors talents.

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Phil Spencer Teases 2026 As A "Really Special Year" For Xbox

2026 will mark the 25th anniversary of Xbox, and Phil Spencer has teased it as a "really special year" for the games division.

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TheEroica18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

You got downvotes by pathetic gamers for feeling hopeful about good games coming out next year. Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy? It is pretty neat to see people's world view blow up in front of them as they realize Microsoft has put themselves in a driver's seat that Sony hasn't been able to touch all generation.... What's even more pathetic is the same people downvoting you are the same people wishlisting Microsoft games on their ps5s 😂

P_Bomb18d ago

“Imagine how small your brain must be to downvote someone excited for future gaming joy?”

My dude your post history shits on EVERYTHING. You never have a good thing to say about anything lol! 🤣

PanicMechanic17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

“Getting ready for those GaaS reveals! Sony is a shadow of themselves this gen.”

You literally said this a couple of days ago. Start applying the clown make up, you hypocritical jester

derek18d ago

Yep we'll see, they have alot releasing next year.

RaidenBlack18d ago

NGL, next year might be one of the best years in gaming ... starting off with RE9 and GTA VI ...
and then all the good games that's been cooking
Pragmata, Sands of Time, Saros, Gears E-Day, 007 First Light, Blood of Dawnwalker,
Mortal Shell II, Onimusha, Marvel1943: Rise of Hydra
current-gen only Infinity Ward's CoD, Duskbloods
+ My guess: Wolverine, Exodus, Mudang, Crimson Desert, Clockwork etc ...
~ seems like it might get too stacked

1Victor17d ago

@rokos:”Hopefully “
I downvoted you not for been hopeful but because I have seen the same “NEXT YEAR WILL BE SPECIAL “ comment for the last 10+ and hasn’t seen anything special from Microsoft.
I hope next year will be the one that everyone been waiting for since the last 3 years of the Xbox 360, it have to be after over $80 billions spent on acquisitions.

Lightning7717d ago

So the new excuse is they don't count because it's from the ABK now huh. I guess all those 3rd party games count even less because they don't own them. According to your always crappy logic.

InUrFoxHole17d ago

Lol. You haven't seen anything special? Do you even game?

OtterX18d ago

Always with the "next year..."! 😂

neutralgamer199218d ago

I don't know they have delivered this year and even last year. And they have a lot more content in the pipeline right now than anyone else. We can't just keep hating on MS

Indiana Jones
South of midnight
Avowed
Flight simulator
Hell Blade 2
Minecraft update
Gears of war reloaded
Indian Jones:expansion
Gears E day
Clockwork revolution
Fable
Doom the dark ages
The outer worlds 2
Grounded 2
Call of duty

OtterX18d ago

How many of those titles were just buyouts of companies that were going about making their games anyways? *Throws cash - "Oh look what we made!"

dveio18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

This list, that's been posted again, and again, and again in every single topic like this, contains almost nothing, literally almost nothing from Microsoft's own creational thoughtprocess.

It's a bunch of former 3rd party IPs.

Now even slowly returning to Playstation in some cases like Indiana, Hellblade, probably Starfield soon too, after they were made exclusively to Xbox on purpose.

Due to Microsoft's lack for own IP material except Halo & Forza. Which, the lack of, was the sole reason for all of it to happen in the first place anyway. Please don't pretend it wasn't.

And just look at all the games that come from Obsidian alone.

You really think Obsidian wasn't already working on Avowed and South of Midnight even without Microsoft buying Zenimax?

Microsoft delivered nothing but cheques.

OtterX18d ago (Edited 18d ago )

@dveio THIS. Lol, this dude thinks Call of Duty wouldn't exist without Microsoft! smh 😂

neutralgamer199218d ago (Edited 18d ago )

Common narrative I see often — that Microsoft shouldn’t get credit for the games its studios release because they “just bought them.” But this viewpoint ignores key context and sets a double standard that other platform holders aren’t held to

No one is saying these games wouldn't exist at all without Microsoft. But let’s not pretend that having a trillion-dollar company backing a studio doesn’t make a massive difference. Obsidian never had AAA funding before the Xbox acquisition. Pillars of Eternity was crowdfunded, and their resources were always stretched thin. Now they’re working on Avowed, with proper support behind it.

Ninja Theory’s Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice was made by around 20 people, using borrowed equipment and doing mocap in a boardroom. It was a passion project held together by tape and willpower. Today, Hellblade II exists because they were given resources, time, and freedom — something many developers don’t get unless they’re owned by a company that believes in their vision.

ZeniMax (Bethesda’s parent company) was in real financial trouble before the Microsoft acquisition. Reports and insider accounts have pointed out how much they needed a cash infusion. And while some people want to write off Xbox’s ownership of Bethesda titles, they forget the alternative could have meant layoffs or even closures.

The same goes for Activision Blizzard. Would you really prefer the company to stay under Bobby Kotick, after all the documented workplace misconduct and toxic leadership issues? Say what you want about Microsoft, but their acquisition brought accountability and change to a company that desperately needed it.

At the same time, Xbox gets hated on for doing what every major company does. Sony bought Housemarque, Bluepoint, Insomniac — but no one says Spider-Man 2 “doesn’t count” because of that. Why does Xbox get treated differently for acquiring struggling or undervalued developers and giving them a chance to thrive?

And the idea that Xbox locks games away is outdated. They're pushing cross-platform releases, cloud gaming, Game Pass, and backward compatibility more than any other platform holder. They're not forcing all studios into live service. If anything, their upcoming lineup is less GAAS-heavy and more focused on narrative and creativity — Avowed, South of Midnight, Clockwork Revolution, Fable, Perfect Dark, Towerborne, and others show real variety.

Whether people like it or not, Xbox is now the biggest publisher in the industry and owns the most gaming IPs. But what matters more is how they treat their studios. Most of these teams were previously stuck making AA games with limited scope — now they’re getting the tools and support to aim higher.

So when people say “Microsoft didn’t make those games,” they’re missing the point. It’s not about who started the studio — it’s about who enabled them to do their best work. You don’t have to love Xbox to admit they’ve helped a lot of developers and are taking a player-first approach.

Instead of writing off everything they do, maybe try recognizing the good they’re doing for both devs and gamers. At the end of the day, we should want more studios to succeed — no matter who owns them

BeHunted18d ago

I'm surprised Clockwork Revolution (BioShock meets Dishonored) isn't getting more media attention. The game looks interesting and reminds me of the old RPG games.

anast18d ago

The only good game on that list is Flight sim. The rest are either average or will be average. It's not a good look for MS.

TheEroica18d ago

My god.... Look how many comments are upset about microsoft's successes... 😂 This may be my new favorite thread. Not one gamer saying thanks for all the goodness coming their way, just bitter anger and downvoting the very games they themselves will purchase throughout 2026.... Sony really worked you guys over this generation.... Condolences.

DivineHand12518d ago

@neutralgamer1992 You said what needed to be said.

I have heard for years from older gamers that fanboys are the biggest issue with any fanbase. They will defend or gloss over negative news as long as the correct logo is on the box and they bash the competing platform no matter how much good they are trying to bring.

Right now their advocacy for PlayStation is elevating that platform so high that Sony no longer believes they need to do anything to satisfy their loyal fanbase like they did in the PS4 days.

I just hope most of them will eventually start advocating for themselves and encourage others to do the same. No one should blindly support one platform because these companies do not care about anything other than profit.

neutralgamer199218d ago

Hunted

And first proper game done by the studio with proper AAA budget and saying it will be released when ready

Anast

I believe we went through this before that you are objectively wrong. Meta critic, user reviews, game sales. In Playstation top 10 best selling games were 5 from Microsoft studios

Otter

No this dude is saying so many other studios wouldn't be thriving without MS money and people would be getting abused physically and mentally with Bobby kotick and his side kicks

Also maybe look up how the original founder of Bethesda and zenimax was kicked out of his own company by his best friend lawyer. So that was always a shady place and had been struggling financially before MS paid a premium of almost 7 billion

Eroica

I use to be a die hard Playstation fan and now I only have a Pc. I see how these fans are so toxic. They just can't handle any positive news regarding Xbox. When the best selling games on playstation are Xbox titles. Look at Forza horizon being best seller and that's years old game by MS. I guess ms don't deserve credit for that success too since they are the only company in gaming making acquisitions

Forget the fact Sony paid 3.6 billion for bungie and MS 6.9 for zenimax. Which investment has turned out better

Destiny and marathon with a lot of controversy

While zenimax output is nothing short of amazing compared to what bungie has released

crazyCoconuts18d ago

Yeah it's tricky. "Xbox" has morphed to mean different things to different people.
Console, now Windows, GamePass, and the cross platform games. There's a mix of attitudes towards all those things individually, and maybe an overarching attitude towards MS. But can't argue that the game companies MS recently bought continue to flourish, and GamePass PC has been a great value over the last year.

InUrFoxHole17d ago

@OtterX
You're the dude mad at your exes new guy. She's with someone else... get over it.

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Lightning7718d ago (Edited 18d ago )

They've had good output so far. So waiting for those games shouldn't be a problem.

Who cares if they're buy outs of companies or whatever excuse you want to make. They're games that are being distributed to other console. Play the games and enjoy it instead of fanboying or complaining.

ocelot0718d ago

They going to be a he best and biggest publisher on Xbox, Playstation and PC next year. They not really said anything about Switch 2 though spite claiming to be big supporters.

quenomamen18d ago

If you call making one last Xbox before going full Sega, as Great. Then yea.

TheEroica18d ago

Doesn't feel like you're paying attention to what's happening.

RhinoGamer8818d ago

It will be, his net work will hit 50 million and he plans to buy a new mansion in Cape Cod. Thanks everyone! #failup

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Phil Spencer 'Very Excited' About Xbox Handheld Plans For 2025

With ASUS seemingly teasing an Xbox handheld last week, there's been a lot of talk about the device in the days ever since, and Xbox boss Phil Spencer has also teased something to do with handhelds happening in 2025

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neutralgamer199284d ago

I really hope this isn't a windows based device even though coming from MS that's highly unlikely. SteamDeck is much much easier to use and offers a much better user experience than any other handheld device because it's all based on steam app. The Xbox handheld should be based on that because a Windows device with a 7-8 inch screen makes it's difficult to navigate

darthv7284d ago

Coming from Asus... its going to be an Xbox branded ROG Ally.

neutralgamer199284d ago

That's fine but hopefully it will be a Xbox app based instead of windows

VenomUK83d ago (Edited 83d ago )

When the casual market learn that there’s going to be an Xbox branded Asus handheld they will cancel their Nintendo Switch 2 preorders and get the Asus. No it won’t have exclusive games like Super Mario or Zelda or Metroid or Pilot Wings or Mario Kart or Animal Crossing or Donkey Kong or Pokémon or Super Smash Bros - but who cares as it will have access to the entire library of the Steam Store running on Windows. It will also have access to Game Pass with all the modern day classics like Avowed, Hellblade II and Grounded and Pentiment.

I think we all have to acknowledge that after all the criticism of Switch 2 on ResetEra it’s evidence that it will fail to sell and the Asus will outsell it. Dreamcast pushed Sega out of hardware, we all have to accept that the perfect storm of Switch 2 pricing, an Xbox-branded Asus and Phil Spencer and Aaron Greenberg’s persuasive promotion will likely kill off Switch 2 within a month. AND YOU CAN QUOTE ME ON THAT.

FinalFantasyFanatic83d ago (Edited 83d ago )

@VenomUK,
I don't think that even has a remote chance of happening, Nintendo has so much brand loyalty, even with the backlash on their not so great pricing, I still think it's going to sell, Xbox doesn't have as much brand loyalty. Plus, if it's just Xbox branded ROG Ally or something similar, why not just choose a ROG ally or Steam Deck? They can both do everything that an Xbox branded handheld can. If Xbox is going to compete in the world of windows based handhelds, it has so much competition, it's going to struggle.

You're way too optimistic about the Xbox handheld and the demise of the Switch 2, I'm going to predict the opposite and say the Switch 2 will demolish the Xbox handheld in terms of sales/popularity.

S2Killinit83d ago

@VenomUK
Not sure if sarcasm or satire.

VenomUK83d ago

@S2Killinit Satire. I’m not going to hate on people for being excited for a new console. But what is happening in the Xbox community is something wicked, content creators are hyping up the Asus to their audience about how great this thing is, and how it will be more powerful than the Switch 2 and the Steam Store outweighs any advantage the Switch 2 has with its library of games. I don’t believe they believe it but they are grifting. By all means look forward to it but don’t sell it as a Switch 2 PS5 killer.

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PanicMechanic84d ago

Steam Os is amazing. By far the best. Can’t imagine MS having an OS that can top it (CERTAINLY not windows)

crazyCoconuts84d ago

Well they're gonna try. They've already stated they've been working on it.

FinalFantasyFanatic83d ago

Windows as is, isn't a great experience for a handheld, they really need to make a dedicated handheld OS, unfortunately they've always been hellbent on making a single product for both PC/touch screen use.

I really can't imagine them making something that stands up to Steam OS, it just works so well.

RaidenBlack83d ago (Edited 83d ago )

This is not their in-house made Xbox handheld for next-gen, which is slated for release in 2027 alongside with the next Xbox console, which might run a version of their usual Xbox-ified OS optimized for the handheld.
This is just a brand collab to produce an Xbox branded updated Asus RoG Ally (Project Kennan), which as usual ships with Windows. Think of it as the 5th main competitor in handheld PC market, after Deck, Legion Go, Ally and MSi Claw (I know others exist, but these are the popular ones).
https://wccftech.com/xbox-h...
And RoG Ally didn't get an update this year like the Legion Go, so this Xbox-Asus one might be that?
Anyways, even with 2025 chip upgrade, the Legion Go underperforms compared to 2023 Ally and 2024 Ally X.

crazyCoconuts84d ago

It can't be anything but Windows if it has the Xbox brand on it. Outside of the politics (which would be a showstopper), SteamOS/Linux can't run GamePass natively due to the crazy protections implemented by the Windows Store.

neutralgamer199284d ago

I am not asking the Xbox handheld to run steam, I just wanted a dedicated Xbox app on the handheld that handles everything from playing games, downloading games, gamepass and most importantly all updates are done from that app. Just a better overall user experience

Having to download multiple different things on a Windows based device becomes really a chore in a smaller screen.

crazyCoconuts84d ago

Having the windows handheld auto launch the existing Xbox Windows app will accomplish everything you mentioned, and I'm sure that's what this will be.
Fact is that MS will need to add a lot into that app to incorporate all the system level controls Steam incorporated into their handheld UI.

OmegaSoldati83d ago

Steam Deck for the win! Switch too.

Profchaos83d ago (Edited 83d ago )

It'll be windows all leaks indicate this is a windows based device with a Xbox skin it will integrate other storefronts because at its core it's windows.

@venom there's is no chance that parents will be buying their kids a rog ally setting up steam and other storefronts over a Nintendo switch 2 at Christmas.

That's a mass amount of hopium there.

Portable PC's in total have barely cracked six million sold the switch 2 will continue to dominate the casual crowd all known about it and news of a switch successor has already started spreading in mainstream media

neutralgamer199283d ago

I think switch 2 will do well but dominate I think we need to wait and see. The prices of the console and games is much more than switch so don't expect parents in this inflation time to spend $600 on 2 games and a console. Since it's Nintendo it should sell but I think we are underpaying the importance of the inflated market

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anast84d ago

Every inch of this things is going to be a subservice.

Aloymetal84d ago

And an even bigger flop in the making, it's like they're just throwing crap at the wall and see what sticks or rather find another ''clever'' way to keep squeezing more money from the already miniscule and gullible fanbase. Smfh.

Reaper22_83d ago

Squeezing money. Isn't that what sony is doing with tbe ps5pro. And what about all those remakes and locking some ps4 games to a subscription.

ABizzel183d ago

At first I thought this was a huge mistake on MS part. But after thinking about this more and more, while I still don’t think it’s going to do anything beyond 10 - 20 million in sales, I think that’s exactly what MS and ASUS are expecting and both are okay with.

I assume this is more of Asus saying to MS, look we have ten/twenty million of these handheld PCs already in production and we’ve only been able to sell a couple millions, partner with us and let’s brand them as Xbox handhelds ASUS will do all the heavy lifting so we don’t take a loss on all these, and all MS has to do is market the platform and put your logo, the new Xbox OS/app you’ve been working on, and together we’ll helps each other out and push more GamePass subscriptions.

That make complete logical sense as to why this came about, because otherwise….. So technically it would be a win:win for both companies, or a win for MS and a reduction of loss of ASUS, even if they only sell 10m - 20m units.

As for the handheld itself honestly, it should be solid and most likely based on the Rog Ally 7, but hopefully with the Rog Ally X case as that has a much better port and I/O layout. Plus if the Xbox OS is wayyyyyyy lighter than Windows then it should be a a good piece of tech getting more performance than the Ally 7 Windows version for around $499.

But that’s where the next problem comes into play…..Price. It’s Switch 2 all over again. The slight different is outside of the potential of DLSS, this should be a slightly more powerful handheld, especially if they create their own dock, but that dock will likely be sold separately meaning now we’re looking at $550 or more, for what will essentially be a docked Xbox Series S and a slightly more powerful SteamDeck / Switch 2 in handheld mode.

peppeaccardo84d ago

The Irrelevant-Held will be able to connect to the XFLOP Series X

anast83d ago

ha! It might last longer than the Stadia.

Profchaos83d ago

Basically what windows os turning into now every few weeks logging on I'm greeted with a hey how about some office 365 or your gamepass lapsed how about renewing and decline is in little blue writing while subscribe is a huge button

anast83d ago

This and I also get a pop up to subscribe to Xbox GamePass.

PanicMechanic84d ago

So smart of you caveman Phil sphincter. Did you get the memo on what Nintendo is releasing this year?

Kyizen84d ago

I dont trust Microsoft to build an OS for this looking at the Windows phone so I think this will be just Windows with a Steam like Big Picture mode locked in the UI to launch games.

Rockstar84d ago

This is good advice from Reaper here. I trust your advice and you've got my word...I wont buy it.

Thanks Reaper!

YourMommySpoils84d ago

Then don't complain about facts.

PanicMechanic83d ago (Edited 83d ago )

So in other words, it’s just another ROG Ally. I think MS has a winner🤣🤣

FinalFantasyFanatic83d ago

I remember when my sister bought a Windows phone, that thing was missing so many basic features, she didn't even own the phone for 3 months before getting frustrated and swapping it out.

Profchaos83d ago

I'll be honest I had a older relative that loved the windows phone cause it had a huge dial, contacts and camera button that was all it got used for.

Oh and it was bright green so easy to find

Moral of the story one person's trash is another's treasure

Reaper22_83d ago

Windows phones weren't the best but I also remember sonys phones didn't fare too well either. As a matter of fact they're newest ones aren't doing so great either. Not even in Japan. That says alot.

Profchaos83d ago

@reaper22 honestly Shane about the Sony phones to I brought the Xperia 3 when they announced remote play for it and it was one of the best ones I have had the battery lasted a few days the camera was some obscene 50mp but the physical design lagged behind Samsung and I think that was a huge reason it failed

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Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Reassures Xbox Gamers Their Gaming Library Isn't Going Anywhere

Xbox's CEO Phil Spencer assures that, even though they are expanding to other platforms, Xbox gamer's libraries aren't going anywhere.

jznrpg133d ago

Phil, the words of a guy who only speaks the truth.

If I was an Xbox owner I wouldn’t feel comfortable with what he just said

crazyCoconuts132d ago

Reading his quote sounds like word salad. I'm not sure he said anything really.

darthv72132d ago

I'd rather him say more of our library will be made available now. It sucks to have so many 360 era games still stuck in limbo, especially Activision ones now that they are buddy buddy.

VenomUK132d ago (Edited 132d ago )

Sarah Bond had committed to backwards compatibility, so interpreting Phil Spencer’s quote, old Xbox games will always be playable with a PS3 on PSN like cloud solution, and on new hardware if a new Xbox console is ever released.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/04...

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Scissorman133d ago (Edited 133d ago )

why does this even need to be reassured? it really goes to show you how nervous there fanbase is.

Eonjay133d ago

Right. I was thinking the same thing. This shouldn't be some sort of 'benefit' for Xbox gamers as MS goes to Sony and Nintendo... This should just be implied. No matter where the games go in the future should have any impact on the purchased games libraries of current Xbox consumers.

pwnmaster3000133d ago

Yup no matter how much they say they don’t care, the fanbase care lol

Profchaos133d ago (Edited 133d ago )

What's left of them one the last 12 months I've seen Xbox consoles flooding second hand marketplaces and going for half of their RRP

In addition this interview the whole panel was clearly not believing the viewpoint but not wanting to offend their guest

LabRat132d ago

When (or "if") Xbox goes out of hardware those who don't play on Cloud or prefer hardware...where will they play their library?

PhillyDonJawn131d ago

Not the question. If you already gave the hardware and games. Why would it disappear?

Chocoburger133d ago

Ah yes, Phillip, the pinnacle of honesty, and he never changes his mind. We can all take his word for it without hesitation. 🤥

Profchaos133d ago

He did but in the follow up sentence he talked about charging pricing because they are a business so who knows maybe the next gen box has a fee to use their emulator service I imagine wine ports to a PC architecture

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