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Console Failure Rates – Should We Really Panic?

Codec Moments looks into the engineering side of console reliability, the historical failures from the PS3 and Xbox 360 generation, and examines whether we should really be worried about the failures reported on the PS4 so far.

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Utalkin2me3812d ago

My main concern is the he lumped "Historical Failures" from PS3 and 360. Only one historical failure in that sentence.

Parapraxis3812d ago (Edited 3812d ago )

Historical Failures, just means from the past. Nothing to do with the actual amount. All previous gen consoles would have "historical" failure rates. You are seeing hyperbole where there is none.

Had they said "historically high", that would be a different story.

mikeslemonade3812d ago

One year warranty out of the box and to extend it to a total of 4 years you just need to pay $49.99. Not necessary to opt to $59.99 unless you travel with it.

Parapraxis3812d ago

Some people need to go back to grade school.

Utalkin2me3812d ago

@Parapraxis

Maybe you do not understand the meaning of "Historical Failure", Try googling it then come back to comment.

Parapraxis3812d ago (Edited 3812d ago )

Sorry kiddo, you are wrong, in this case "historical" means past. Not the other meaning where "historical" would mean it's famous position in history, or landmark occurrence.

Ie:

Wii made an historical impact with it's introduction of the wiimote.
VS
Wii was historically, the 7th generation console from Nintendo.

https://www.google.ca/searc...

https://www.google.ca/searc...

But I will say your understanding of the English language IS a historical failure. (along with quite a few of the readers here)

Words can have multiple meanings, and in the case of the article where they are looking at data, facts and figures, they are looking at the historical data from last gen.

Thehyph3812d ago

Oh, dear.

Have we succumbed to semantic policing?

SolidStoner3812d ago

I think.. most of these faults could easily be fake.. made by MS or fanboys.. all that will happen when xbox one comes out... only time will tell whats really going on... now bad and good news pop up everywhere randomly... and whats real and whats fake.. cant really tell.. power of the internet.. everything about everything from everybody!

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Derekvinyard133813d ago

YES! would you guys buy a car if it had a high percentage failure rate? If anything has a failure rate , that is a bad thing.

Ezz20133812d ago (Edited 3812d ago )

"" If anything has a failure rate , that is a bad thing. ""

so what you saying is that you never bought any Electronic Device in your entire life ?! because every single device ever made have failure rate

also 2000 or even 5000 bricked console out of 1,000,000+ console
is pretty damn low rate
i think it's even less than 1%

colonel1793812d ago (Edited 3812d ago )

"if it had a high percentage failure rate?"

Do you have a source stating the PS4 has a high failure rate?

This is just an overreaction just because the PS4 is the new stuff. If it was the Xbox One, the headlines would be: "Red Ring of Death all over again, MS is doomed"!

People need to have a little of common sense!

Edit: Also, do you even realize how many iPhones and iPads are defective when they release? It's just that the gaming media is so lame, that like to overreact and exaggerate about everything, just for hits.

static52453812d ago (Edited 3812d ago )

Actually Cars fail quite often. Even straight off the lot. Just like in Fight Club, someone goes out and they figure out to see if the failure is worth the companies attention.

And honestly if you knew the acceptable failure rate of cars, by your logic, you should be pretty scared every time you hop in a car.

Happy Driving

EDIT: just to give you a idea these are failure rates from 2007. Using 20,000 new cars of each company were tested

Ford Focus 18%
Mini Coop 20%
VW Golf 19.2%

Just a example

Ausbo3812d ago

no. Playstation is less than .4% and microsofts will be low too. (assuming they learned from RROD).

New electronics are never perfect. They have a warranty, so don't fret.

Thatguy-3103812d ago

As long as my console isn't malfunctioning I'm fine. I bought one for me and one for my brother and both work. I feel bad for those that got the short end of the stick but I'm doing great playing Battlefield 4 and Killzone ;)

for we are many3812d ago

High failure rate is a cause of panic, be it in a console, electronics, cars, plumbing etc. What we are seeing with the ps4 launch and all the reports, videos and bad hardware reviews from verified buyers on Amazon is alarming to say the least, not only failures out of the box but also loud noises as well as the loudest fan and disk sound ever in a home console, slow interface and system overheating in as low as 2 hours of playing time is unheard of in a console, and in the face of all that you have the big corporate VG "media" websites like IGN along with blind fanboys executing what looks like The BIGGEST ORGANIZED DAMAGE CONTROL OPERATION in the history of this infantile business, instead of admitting that the system was rushed and that sony seemed to use low quality manufacturing process to reduce the cost as they often do and that they need to act to alleviate this problem, they are trying to find excuses; it may be relatively easy to damage control bad reviews of the hyped launch titles and to dismiss them as opinions which I find fine, you should enjoy whatever you like even if the scores are low, it doesn't matter at least to me, But to come and try damage controlling Hardware failures!! that's too much of either being a money fueled corporate shell or a blind Fanboy. Imagine if it was M$ or Nintendo, then you will begin to understand the primitive mentality of most people involved with videogames on a manufacturer, media and consumer level.

static52453812d ago

Most Consoles had failure.
NES faulty spring.
Xbox Disc read error
PS2 Faulty lens
360 RRoD
PS3 YLoD
WII U It was actually Nintendo who unintentionally bricked quite a few consoles

for we are many3812d ago

1-Not as major as we have here.
2-other "failures" were admitted by everyone including manufacturer and solutions were swift.
3-This time it's Damage-Controlled to epic proportion by the media, manufacturer and blind fanboys, I doubt if someone pays 400$ ends up with malfunctioning console is happy to damage control unless he's a blind fanboy.
4-Look all over the internet and see the schism between disappointed purchasers with failing ps4s and corporate media and fanboys trying to damage control these major problems, while ridiculing MS mostly and to lesser extent try to downplay Nintendo's well known hardware reliability standards.

JasonKCK3812d ago

The only people who should have a problem are those affected. I say no need for panic, I'm sure Sony will get those peoples PS4 fixed. Honestly I have had had more problems with some of the hardware on my PC than I ever had with consoles. Do people have a right to get angry or be annoyed? sure they do after all they just dropped hundreds on something that doesn't work.

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MRMagoo1233813d ago

best part of the article is this "To conclude this article, the only thing I can say is things aren’t looking disastrous for the PS4 yet, and the perceived high level of failures looks to be normal at this stage, and is probably exacerbated by the level of media connection we have now versus 7 years ago. It’s so easy for us to Tweet, Facebook and Blog all our bad news, and by nature it’s the thing we all latch on to when we read it. We’ve got an Xbox One launch in 6 days and there will be console failures there too. These will make the headlines alongside the PS4 numbers, and most likely set off a fanboy argument over who’s the most/least reliable" imo, the xbone fanboys really need to lay off the failure rate(which is below normal acceptable amounts) because it will be the same exact thing on the xbone day one and because the fanboys made such a big thing out of this, the xbone launch will be even more under the microscope to point out every single problem encountered.

Sci0n3812d ago (Edited 3812d ago )

yea and just like how the X1 fans trolled the PS4's 0.4% failure rate I know the sony fans are waiting to pounce back at them. It is actually pretty pathetic for both parties to antagonize each other over hardware failure. I do find it ironic as hell that out of all people xbox fans have the nerve to troll other fans about console failures when the early adopters experienced it first hand on the 360. I was a early 360 adopter and I was in the microsoft customer service threads reading all the fans cry there hearts out over there 360 consoles repeatedly failing. It was quite a disaster. I hope for nothing but the best regarding the X1's launch regarding console durability.

Majin-vegeta3812d ago

Hate to admit it.But I will be one of them.

Sci0n3812d ago

im going to let go of the revenge factor vegeta. This PS4 console is too great for me to stoop to such a low level of antagonizing X1 fans back over console failures. Let them be bitter by themselves.

Thehyph3812d ago

Amen, brother.

Anyone who wishes ill will to the extent of a hardware failure on another is no gamer. I feel for the few out there who've had problems. When I got my ps4 Friday night, I was almost losing my poop because the PSN wouldn't work. Took a breather, (cigarette) waited a while, and then everything fell into place. Smooth sailing since.

GrandpaSnake3812d ago

If you cant take it, dont dish it out.

neocores3813d ago

yes BECAUSE 0.04% IS SOO BAD WOW IM SOO SCARED

Ausbo3812d ago (Edited 3812d ago )

its actually .4% according to ign.

http://www.ign.com/articles...

its still a non-issue though

Ausbo3812d ago

why the disagrees. I state a fact and back it up with a source.

Wow.

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Death3812d ago

It looks like they took the amount of reported PS4's and applied them to the Taco Bell winners. Failure rate is determined during the duration of warranty, not just from defects out of the box.

OmegaShen3812d ago

No, if only if its only 0.04%. No there is no reason, now if its like the 360's fail rate that was 54%. Then its time to panic (but only the company is the one that needs to panic).

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mkis0071h ago

Such a good game to me. Crazy how different peoples opinions can get.

Crows901h ago(Edited 1h ago)

For me it wasn't that surprising. There was some bad press before. There's also the matter and element of a person's disposition when trying out a certain game. Sometimes you're just not really into the type of game that you're playing so you put it down because you don't like it. Not necessarily because it's a bad game but because you're just not up for something like this. Reviewers have a tough because no matter what they feel like playing they've got to play what's releasing.

I have many times gone back to games that I put down only to thoroughly enjoy them the second time around because either there wasn't another exciting game coming out around the same time or I just had no other games to play and haven't played that type of game in a while. I'm not the type of person that can just play a souls game through all this iterations one after the other without getting burnt out on the formula.

In my opinion this game was great from the start. Some bugs here and there but nothing worse than the most AAA releases during the same time after and before. All I did was wait one week and I had a phenomenal time with the game. No other zombie survival game comes close to how I thoroughly enjoyed this one

-Foxtrot4m ago(Edited 2m ago)

Yeah I thought it was pretty decent, it had its flaws but for their first big console single player open world game it's a solid 8/10.

I have never seen an AAA "zombie" game feature as many enemies as the horde sections did, you really had to think about your surroundings and plan carefully.

I feel journalists had an issue with this game from the moment it was announced, they really didn't like the Biker characters and the overall Biker gang theme. If they were anything else I feel it would have had a better chance or at least they'd overlook some of the flaws like they do for certain other open world games. They don't mind waiting weeks or months for a patch knowing its coming but a game that has it Day 1 it's suddenly a big no no? Yeah this was one of those moments that showed you how they cherry pick who to suddenly decide to go harsh on when they want to.

Leeroyw1h ago

Second act of that game far surpassed the first. Which is why people felt it didn't live up to the hype of the trailers. Personally I loved it. But it was a slog to get your bike and weapons up to skill.

Inverno1h ago

Was gonna post a brick wall of text but I'll keep it short. Pardon my French but f**k the media for the hate they gave this game. If you have a PC to play it on you can get it as low as 10 bucks, and if you have a PS then it's a no brainer. Totally worth a play.

phatak56m ago(Edited 48m ago)

I don't even comment here often but had to for this game, I still stand by my opinion that this was one of the top 10 games of the ps4 generation, I preferred days gone over god of war, horizon and last of us 2, the launch version was definitely piss poor and that messed up the reviews for this game, honestly some games deserve a re-review or post patch review as the metacritic score stays forever but the reality is its not even the same game anymore, the ps5 patch is amazing and the pc version which I play on nowadays is one of the best looking games ever, complete shame that we wont get a sequel, god of war got one, horizon got one, last of us got one, spider man got one,ghosts of tshushima about to get one but this game wont get one, sucks to be honest.

Ps3/360 era had some hidden underated games for me it was shadows of the damned, alice madness returns that deserved more sales and a sequel/ higher scores, and similarly for the ps4 era it was days gone, and dying light 1 that deserved much more love, dying light atleast got a sequel, everyone needs to play this game once and judge for themselves, for me its officially the most underrated game of the ps4 era, go play it if you haven't.

andy8517m ago

Awesome game. Just bought it for my laptop last week

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