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Albert Penello questioned on use of PC footage for Xbox promo

Albert Penello is asked why MS used PC footage from Battlefield 4 for an Xbox promo.

GarrusVakarian3828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

Albert's reply doesn't make what they did any less deceiving. Putting an Xbox logo over PC footage for a MS sponsored promo AND uploading it to the official Xbox YouTube channel is just plain wrong. He doesn't even seem to understand what the problem is judging from his tweet......wow.

Angels37853828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

I can't wait to heard more BS from him....

After reading (edit): Oh look...he passed off the question and ignored the misleading nature of the footage.

abzdine3828d ago

STFU penello everyone is sick of your BS interventions.
Those guys have no honor, ready for everything to proof their point.

Lalanana3828d ago

Wow dude, I never thought you would be this close minded. Alot of games are advertise this way.. people just like to bash anything on xbox because of MS. what a shame.

Game-ur3828d ago

IMOO the thing turning gamers away from XBox is the constant spin and deception, many can look beyond the weeker specs if they trust the company to serve our interest in the long run, but right now I find that difficult, and I'm a gamer that usually buys every console but I canceled my X1 order because I just can't trust the people in charge.

SilentNegotiator3828d ago

@Lalanana

So you're either assuming that he isn't aware of that fact or that he doesn't condemn it other times based on.....what exactly?

zeee3828d ago

Lalanana: Not even the biggest fanboy would act so blind so I am guessing that you are trolling. Imagine seeing an ad of a laptop with all these nice specs, running BF4 on max settings. Then you go buy that laptop/computer only to find out, it doesn't run BF4 on max settings. It can hardly run it on medium settings. You'd probably be like, "hey, what the hell?! This is not what was advertised" and you'll probably go and return the product.

Are you telling me that you are so sure about MS even their track record that you believe in everything they say, hell, even in their deliberate mistakes? Please be serious and don't troll me. I am actually looking forward to hearing from you.

PeaSFor3828d ago

false advertising right here....

so yeah, lying, misleading and arrogant PR seem to be the usual buisness at MS

LonDonE3827d ago

THIS IS A BAIT AND SWITCH! PLAIN AND SIMPLE!

amiga-man3827d ago

M$ just cant be trusted, how many times will people let them get away with blatant lying before people stop defending them?

M$...........M........Mirrors .......S...........Smoke

dedicatedtogamers3827d ago

And yet there are people out there (setting aside the people online who are legitimate "viral marketers" hired by Microsoft) who honestly place their gaming entertainment future in the hands of Microsoft...

Kinda sad.

thekhurg3827d ago (Edited 3827d ago )

Dude how else is this commercial to going to air on 1080i stations? It's not like our cable/satellite can upscale 720p xbox one footage to 1080i feeds...

AsimLeonheart3827d ago

@Lalanana

God! How blind can you be!? Lying and deceiving is WRONG! You CANNOT justify it in any way! I hope you do not justify other crimes in a similar fashion. Just because others may be doing it, does not gives you the license to do it yourself. Are you allowed to to rob a bank or kill someone just because others are already doing it? Your sense of right and wrong is really twisted.

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mrnice3828d ago

someone should gag him.or sack him.i have played em both and was getting both but they just lie. all the time come on ms.stop with the crap truth will come out when you take are money and were stuck with this crap.come march xbox 2 out 1080p without kinect.300 lol

iamnsuperman3828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

Pretty much it really. If this was uploaded on Microsoft's YouTube page and being used to advertise Windows then fine but since it was being used on the One YouTube page with a big Xbox logo on the video advertising an Xbox One promo event it is a problem

I think it might have been a mistake (didn't check the stock footage properly) but at least admit the mistake. This implies they think there is nothing is wrong in this practice

DeadlyFire3828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

Can we push a false advertising lawsuit on them now? It would be funny to do so and win I believe.

LetoAtreides823828d ago

Could be done. MS would just delete the video.

Kayant3828d ago

At first I was going to give them a pass but then I remembered they also had a trailer at the tournament yesterday but with the in-game UI (Pc footage) taken out yet in this promo vid they feel the need to keep it... Hmmmm....

Mike134nl3828d ago

It is deceiving using the pc content for the promo of the battlefield tournament. That said it was a promo of for streaming event of a battlefield tournament which was being played on xb1 consoles.
That said people who watched the tournament on their xb30 or pc were shown a live stream of battlefield being played on xb1. As a european I find it a shame europe lost.

Studio-YaMi3828d ago

I can't believe how simply he puts it,it's like he's saying :

"well yeah it's older youtube footage of the PC version but we didn't have time to make a brand new one with the XboxOne version SOOOO we are going to fool some"loyalists" by slamming the XboxOne logo onto it & saying it's XboxOne footage."

And you will STILL find some people who will defend them,just .. WOW!

GarrusVakarian3828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

Yeah, it's shocking that people will STILL defend him and MS. Its like...what do they have to do to you for you to realise how deceptive they are?

The way you put it is perfect btw, that's basically how that comment comes across to everyone but the loyalists.

Im so glad that we don't have to be a fan of MS in order to buy their console, because that would be mean i would never own an X1. How people can defend this company after all they have done and continue to do is beyond my understanding.

IcicleTrepan3828d ago

They could have put text at the bottom saying 'pc version shown due to NDA' or something short like that to at least tell you what you're seeing. But you are right, it was dishonest. That being said I don't think Albert Penello would have been the one that made this decision and it probably came from above him, although now he is defending it.

BOLO3827d ago

It's no use...Xbot's defended them when DRM was introduced...So you better believe they will defend them now until DRM is re-introduced...Stockholm syndrome at its finest.

KnightRobby3828d ago

Oh dead lord. I have no idea why MS is so effed up. But believe it or not, I sort of understand it...sort of.

In fact, they probably had to use PC footage because the advertisement was probably made during the development process for the BF4...And by the way, all launch games for both consoles are being rushed out the door. They are all going to look great, play great, but believe it or not, they are mostly ports. Meaning they are going to look terrible to the true next-gen versions without the constraints of the current-gen.

Right now everything is in flux. MS is still making mistakes though, but after watching the ACTUAL livestream the game looks great on the Xbox One. And honestly, beyond shitty marketing, the games looking and playing great is what matters here.

And by the way, it looks great on the PS4 too!

C0LLAT3828d ago

That my friend, by no means makes it ok... this is just defending why I will be going from Xbox360 to PlayStation 4. You just cant trust them.

Plain and simple.

the only people defending them are the people that have invested 7+ years of time getting achievements, and gaining Gamerscore.

these people I call xbots. Xbots will eventually be programmed to destroy the world and lye about everything.

get away from the ONE while you still can!!! lol

KnightRobby3828d ago

I'm actually going to end up getting both consoles. The PS4 and the Xbox One. Sony has done a superb job communicating with the community and offering features that, ya know, makes sense.

What I'm looking forward to is Titanfall (don't have the PC to run it, don't suggest it!), Halo 4, Forza Horizon 2...but I am equally anticipating The Order 1886 and especially Uncharted 4. Facts are I like them both.

Honestly, you're right. They should've recorded damn Xbox One footage. It just seems time and time again Microsoft just knows how to make you mad more than anything else. Such a disappointment. The fools.

C0LLAT3828d ago

Its called: false advertising.

Infamous2983828d ago

@Lalanana you are the closed minded here, worshipping a company who keep f*cking you in the ass and it keep spreading lies which only xbots like you believe in, seriously, xbots are the worst breed of fanboys, they even try to convince you that a piece of sh*t is better than PS4 smh.

3-4-53828d ago

This is the problem with companies in America. Guys like this never take responsibility for their actions and ignore or pass the blame.

They hire other people like them, and then you get whole companies ran by people who don't really know what they are doing.

Sure they can maintain current...but to progress the company they fail; every time.

They don't understand the technology or the product they are pushing or the market they are pushing it on.

Soc53828d ago

Poor Penello
Just quit dude, I know you're doing your job but is it worth it?
You're ruining your cred. You might want to do what Mattrick did and leave that sinking ship.

deecee333827d ago

We wouldn't be having any discussion about the footage in the video if BF4 on the XB1 had performed up to everyone's expectations, I.e. shipped at the same resolution as the PS4 version. People would have written it off and forgiven them in that case- that's what I think the root issue is here.

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bomboclaat_gamer3828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

nice guys
keep promoting sony's PS4 (edit i meant ps4) whatever

free advertising...its like sony is paying you guys or something

i never understand brand loyalty

GarrusVakarian3828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

Lol, what? PS3?

Guess what? This is news for gamers and this is gaming news. Brand loyalty has nothing to do with it. If something happens in the industry that is worthy of posting on this website then it will be posted....simple as.

If the majority of Microsoft news that gets posted is negative news then that is no ones fault but Microsofts. What do you expect us to do....make up positive news just to balance things out?

stage883828d ago

They still put the xbox logo in the top corner to make it look like it was xbox footage.

Shameful.

smoothop3828d ago

Loads of games are advertised this way, Uncharted 3 was running at 60fps and at higher resolution in its trailers. The problem is people just being idiots because they don't like MS.

GarrusVakarian3828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

Uncharted 3 trailers would have been at 30fps (the max YouTube allows). The game is 30fps....so there is no deception there.

Nothing to do with "not liking MS", its news that people need to see. People are buying products from this company so i feel its important they know what kind of people they are dealing with.....people that think deceiving their customers is not a bad thing.

Codey473828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

There's a reason why I hate M$
and it's been embroiled in me....way before M$ even got into the console market.

You call it idiocy
I call it being bent over a table and royally shafted.....on many occasions and obviously by M$

smoothop3828d ago

People will blow up anything into a big situation if it is related to Xbox One, just get over the fact that some people want Xbox One its not the end of the world.

stage883828d ago

What's that got to do with anything?

MS have clearly misled and deceived people with this footage.

GarrusVakarian3828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

This is NOTHING to do with people wanting an X1......I want an X1 but i still posted this news.

And in my opinion, acting like there is nothing wrong with putting an Xbox logo over PC footage is a "big situation" for a company that already has a damaged rep/image from negative news from most of 2013.

stuna13828d ago (Edited 3828d ago )

Your comment is a prime example of the saying! "You can't see the forest for the trees"! The fact that Microsoft has continuously been able to fool the masses, makes me wonder if this is truly the "Secret Sauce" that the Xbox1 is reported to have, "Instant Mind Control"? Because I have to say it! Some of Microsoft's supporters act as if they are brain dead.

3-4-53828d ago

I think people don't care if you want an XB1....they just want to inform you so you aren't shocked and mad when you realize you've been screwed.

It will happen at some point. As a current xbox and xbox 360 owner, I have been screwed my Microsoft before. We all have at some point.

I've always had a lot of great experiences because of Microsoft via PC OS and Xbox gaming.

They aren't all bad, but they still think they are smarter than they actually are.

They think they are at a 96/100 but really they are about 82/100

BOLO3827d ago

M$FT and Xbox One blow themselves up...No help needed from the rest of the gaming community. It is however just fascinating the level of defense mechanism activation you Xbot's seem to give at M$FT for any form of A. Deception, B. Excuses, C. Greed, and D. PR stealth speak they are fairly accused of quite often.

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jackdaddy3828d ago

More lies and deception from the Kings of lies and deceit. Glad we have @yosp in charge.

VonBraunschweigg3828d ago

Among thieves, Microsoft's deception is all about making a fortune untill the last of us runs out of money.

Studio-YaMi3828d ago

I see what you did there..!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7223h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle10h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning772h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga9h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21838h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan3h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus232h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv722h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10112h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos11h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac11h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic8h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein21h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno17h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k416h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson15h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu17h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson16h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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The INDIE Live Expo 2024 event is to feature over 100 game titles

INDIE Live Expo, Japan’s premiere online digital showcase series , will debut never-before-seen games & content updates across more than 100 titles on May 25th.