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Recap: How Microsoft Redeemed the Xbox One // LevelSave

It’s been quite a few months since Microsoft unveiled the Xbox One to the world, and since that time, quite a lot has changed. This has left gamers more confused then informed. Let’s take a quick look back at the past couple months and see exactly what happened to the Xbox One and what Microsoft has done to fix it.

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Bundi3890d ago

through sheer gaming awesomeness and the power of the cloud.

Maddens Raiders3890d ago

Yeah but the continued rationalisation of a forced camera and additional $100 price tag for a piece of kit with less power, demonstrates that neither Microsoft nor the author knows the meaning of the words "fixed" or "redeemed". Micro is determined to have their way and recoup their Kinect investment, the gamers be damned in the process. Major Nelson stated that forum posters weren't engineers, and that MS couldn't just "flip a switch" to circumvent drm checks, and an always on, required Kinect. All lies and ridiculous confusion.

I'll say it again, the system was not very well planned to be received by the gaming faithful and Sony prematurely forced their hand in Feb of this year. That's why we've seen an avalanche of policy reversals, backflips, and apologies because these contingent issues were never accounted for in the first place. It's as simple as that..

JokesOnYou3890d ago (Edited 3890d ago )

No Maddens X1 will do just fine, heres why:

"Yeah but the continued rationalisation of a forced camera and additional $100 price tag"

-The camera is welcomed by all who are interested in gaming beyond just a graphic upgrade. Kinect v2 retails for $400 so in fact included in X1 package we are getting a helluva bargain.

"Microsoft nor the author knows the meaning of the words "fixed" or "redeemed"."

All of thr DRM policies have been reversed= fixed. Normal gamers without an axe to grind who really wanted an X1 but were not in favor of those changes are satisfied and will buy an X1=redeemed. It seems its you who does not understand the meaning of fixed/redeemed.

"Major Nelson stated that forum posters weren't engineers, and that MS couldn't just "flip a switch" to circumvent drm checks"

-Thats just simply saying it is a big decision thats OVER HIS HEAD he is just a PR guy but common sense dictates it would require a lot of re-thinking, re-coding and careful implementation of current policy and code at the hardware level, the reversal came weeks later and micro/X1 engineers are likely still finalizing the NEW FIRMWARE CODE for the DAY ONE PATCH/UPDATE its not magic its hardwork and late nights for engineers/coders= So in conclusion it is a FACT that its not just flipping a switch but when you are pre-programmed to think micro is evil everything is a conspiracy and lies to you.

"I'll say it again, the system was not very well planned to be received by the gaming faithful and Sony prematurely forced their hand in Feb of this year."

-A console that launches 1 week after ps4 in the US, 1 week before in most of the big Euro markets, has the better quality and quantity of next gen exclusive games, has actively made small upgrades to specs which is unheard of when you are have production issues and is a console that aims to do more with kinect, tv integration, media and will bring full use of dedicated servers also incorporating the cloud so far in ways no other console has, all this DAY ONE, while a company far less ambitious with its Gaikai service wont even be available at launch, hell I still remember when FCC suddenly became the measuring stick for a console being ready, then we find out X2 passed before ps4, now the guys like you are still grasping a new straws to make it look as if the X1 is rushed meanwhile dony wont even confirm the share buttons youtube uplaod, come to think of it micro has shown and talked about X1's specs and functionality in alot mote detail than sony= if that is not ready compared to their competition then I dont know what is?

ZBlacktt3890d ago

JokesOnYou, such a fitting name, lol. Wow, hook line and sinker they've sold you on a bag of goods. Best of luck with that.

JokesOnYou3890d ago (Edited 3890d ago )

Edit, little mistake I meant "X1" in the last paragraph above.

ZBlacktt, how original, never heard that before but I guess its much harder to debate logically. lol, when in doubt just fall back on "Xbot", "you work for micro", or wait, wait "haha the Jokes On You!" yeah you got me.

AngelicIceDiamond3890d ago (Edited 3890d ago )

@Maddens Hmm that's nice meanwhile.

http://www.videogamer.com/x...

Good news for the X1. So you were saying?

I guess you weren't saying much of anything.

EDIT: @Monday Ok? Your giving predictions and I'm giving you facts so who wins? You can talk down about X1 all you want people are still pre-ordering the console so have fun with your night sweats and stressing over the X1.

Don't worry so much about the X1 focus on PS4. I know this'll be Sony's best console yet.

NewMonday3890d ago (Edited 3890d ago )

@JokesOnYou

logic says the market rejects the XB1

the only thing going for it is brand loyalty, tainted glasses can make what you want look beautiful and powerful, so you can convince yourself but the majority of gamers don't like what the XB1 has to offer so far.

@AngelicIceDiamond
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creatchee3890d ago

@newmonday

If your graph holds true, then if PS4 sells 100,000,000 consoles, then the Xbox One will sell about 55,000,000.

That's more than enough to ensure a good online community and continued developer support.

Unless all you care about is sales.

NewMonday3890d ago

@creatchee

good enough for me
a larger market share will give a better foundation for 1st party games to succeed, this will make Sony take more risks.

and the pressure of a small market share will push MS to invest in true exclusive games to win the gamers back, they could get back to the good old days of the TrueXB1 and early 360 years. they should stay under pressure because they will just shift back to timed DLC if you give them the chance.

Deltaohio3889d ago

@jokesonyou
Just FYI the kinect is not $400. Idk why ppl still believe this.
Don't get me wrong I like the X1 over the PS4 hands down. I just don't like how ppl believe crazy things.
The kinect cost "maybe" $200 at best. The $400 tag ppl throw out is actually for a dev kit where the dev gets 2 kinect and a shit ton of support from MS.
Get ur facts straight home skillet.

Google windows for Kinect new dev kit

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ArchangelMike3890d ago

The proof that Microsoft have yet to redeem themselves is borne out in pre-order numbers.

The pre-order numbers suggest overwhelmingly that gamers this gen have (initially at least) sided with Sony and the PS4.

Policy reversals, Fifa 14 bundles, Forza bundles, Titanfall etc etc have not done enough to reverse the low pre-order numbers.

JokesOnYou3890d ago (Edited 3890d ago )

Yeah because a console gen that will last the next 10+ yrs is going to be determined by sold out preorders that are a DIRECT REFLECTION of how many each manufacturer CAN PRODUCE prior to launch that will ALL sellout to a few million hardcore gamers over the course of 1-2 months, thats cool but the other 120+ months what will happen?...oh my bad nevermind preorders is whats most important.

Bundi3890d ago

They have doubled their pre-orders compared to the Xbox 360...sounds pretty redeemed to me.

devwan3890d ago

@Bundi But the xbox one isn't competing with the 360, it's competing with the ps4, so that's irrelevant and clearly one of those kinds of "facts" that gets pulled out when meaningful numbers don't tell the story they wish to portray.

@JokesOnYou 10 years? No chance. If anything the next generation will be shorter than the last and Microsoft aren't going to want to drag on into the 2020s with hardware that already struggles to live with 2012 PC hardware.

ArchangelMike3890d ago

@Jokesonyou

Pre-order numbers are a direct indication of demand. At present there is much more demand for the PS4 than XbOne.

The thing is that increased demand breeds more demend (the Wii is a prime example of this). The higher demand for a PS4 will feedback into the consumer minset, which will have the effect of feeding demand over the coming years.

ZBlacktt3890d ago

Joke, this is becoming a joke. You are aware MS has never out sold Sony at any time right? Even with a full year head start and a worldwide launch in 2005. Now fast forward to Next Gen pre orders and Sony has the most ever in company history. Their message has been clear from the start " All about the gamers and developers ".

PS1 - Second best selling console of all time

PS2 - Best selling console of all time

PS3 - Outsold XBox 360 full year later launch date. No worldwide launch. All of Europe waited until 2007 to get it.

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Retroman3890d ago

"a lot has changed. this has left gamers confused"

REALLY!!! like what gamers??? unexpected casual non hardcore gamers you mean?? only thing MS redeemed is more lies, more advertisement to promote "this is the BEST console since invention of bread" to casual gamer.

jessupj3890d ago

They would have completely and utterly ruined my beloved hobby. I will never forgive MS.

starchild3890d ago

Oh jeez, more ridiculous melodrama from a fanboy.

MS, Sony, Nintendo, AMD, Nvidia and other companies all offer gaming hardware, and you can either choose to buy it or not. No one is holding a gun to your head.

If Microsoft would have come out with the Xbox One with the original features it wouldn't have ruined anything. The people that wanted to move into a digital future on a console similar to what we have on PC would have bought the console and been happy. Those that didn't like it would have bought something else.

What I have to ask is, why do most of the people that "will never forgive Microsoft" just happen to be Playstation fans? You guys already had a thing for Sony and didn't like the Xbox anyway. Most of the people I see making comments like yours are people that I saw making anti-Xbox 360 comments last generation long before the announcement of the Xbox One.

SITH3890d ago

Exactly. They act like they are angry former and loyal Xbox gamers who have suddenly lost all respect for Microsoft and can't understand why you have not. It kills me they have no clue we can see every word they ever say in their comment history.

SITH3890d ago

Lmao, N4g is full of you pretend butt hurt people. You do realize we can all see you comment history!? You never supported Xbox one, and that is clear by your obvious disdain of the Xbox 36o and Microsoft. You never had respect for MS to have anything ruined by them.

Your very first comment on your account.

"360 a better concole?
M$ definitely couldn't sell it's console if they didn't do all the dirty tricks they did. Not saying sony doesn't do the same thing, but in my opinion M$ does it a lot worse and it's just getting personal now.

and by the way, none of the sony customers ever said "who needs duel shock (rumble)". As i recall, they were all screaming bloody murder, demanding it back and sony actually listened to it's customer base.

The 360 is in no way a better console. I... #37.1

2176d ago by jessupj | View comment"

You always been in butt hurt mode. In context of this article, Xbox one would have never done a thing to change that for you.

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yellowgerbil3890d ago

Microsoft redeemed the X1?
that's news to me.

Bzone243890d ago

It's because you get all your gaming news on N4G. Positive Xbox One articles have a hard time getting approved.

yellowgerbil3890d ago

Nope that's not it. I read all the "pos" articles, I am just not so easily swayed, MS will have to go above and beyond to earn back my business after the RROD and all the crap with the new system. Got rid of my 360 in 08 they've not done anything to make me regret that decision

ZBlacktt3890d ago

Again, thanks to Sony for forcing their hand. Otherwise you would still be screwed. That is a absolute fact. Thanks to Sony for bringing the Blu-ray player to video gaming and also wining the format war. Now the X1 won't be held back there either. It really looks like MS has a extremely hard time coming out with new consoles without huge major issues. Years of RROD to all this. Then comes the sorry about that we are going to flip flop on that. If the devil was selling candy that was poisoned and you found out it was poisoned. Called him on it and he said ok I took the poison out. Would you still buy it? That's what all this is really.

Great for the gamers who just love this brand no matter what. But never turn a blind eye to what you really are dealing with here. It's your money after all.

Sitdown3890d ago

My gosh......Sony didn't force their hand; before Sony's announcement at E3 there was already rumblings and complaining, and gamers refusing to turn down basic rules and principles that they have enjoyed since the start of gaming. Did Sony when the dvd war? But somehow dvd made their way into consoles....so guess what, if hd dvd would have one, then most likely it would have been in consoles. What was the huge major issue with the original xbox? Pretty sure purchasing a $500 console is not the same as eating candy that can kill you from an entity bent on destroying you. But since you are using that example.....what us your analogy for Sony and rootkit? What about Sony removing an advertised feature of other OS from a console you already owned? Both of these companies are far from innocent, and I willingly purchase both knowing this.

stuna13890d ago

@Sitdown

In a lot of ways Sony did force Microsofts hand, here's why; if Sony had said nothing one way or another concerning the planned policies they intended to implement, best believe Microsoft wouldn't have been so quick to start reversing their intended vision for the Xbox1, regardless of how low the pre-order were for the Xbox1, because regardless of what anyone including Microsoft could say, everyone was under the assumption that Sony was also going down the same route! The PS4's pre-order wouldn't be anywhere near the level they are now, because the jury would have still been out concerning Sonys plans on policies, thereby not posing a major threat to Microsoft.

At this very moment the Xbox1 would have had the industry in a catch 22 situation! Because they would have been able to dictate the direction of the entire industry. People with too much power, that they use to control and instill fear are called Dictators! The restriction, policies, and demands that Microsoft tried to impose on gamers, developers, the industry as a whole, were nothing short of a "DICTATORSHIP" of gaming.

Here we have those still spouting on about how they wish Microsoft had been clearer on their presentation of their message.....Well here it is! Notice how the popularity of Xbox brand has also ushered in some of the extremist measures and restrictions known to gaming to date!? If Microsoft could monetize every aspect of gaming they would! The always online feature was a means to that end!

What happened to gaming being fun? I'll tell you what happened to it! Microsoft happened to it, now it's becoming more like a costly chore to have fun.

puntthor3890d ago

microsoft is evil! it is the antichrist! sony is pope! I am the fanboy of the sony!

opinska3889d ago

let sony suck your money! funboy

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Xbox, do you even have a plan anymore?

TSA asks what is the future for Xbox.

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Chocoburger3h ago

They clearly never did, hence why they spent so many BILLIONS on other publishers as a last resort.

anast2h ago

They have a plan. It's to move everything toward streaming and mobile. This is just the next step.

Cacabunga1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

With half of the money they spent, they could have been on the very top and the gaming industry would be way bigger than it is.. encourage developers, indies, make them grow trust them and they will deliver.

Tody_za1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

What are you talking about Cacabunga? The Xbox faithful insisted that Microsoft has infinite money, and after Activision they should buy Square Enix and Capcom before Sony does. There was no chance ever that Microsoft would do this. They would use their infinite millions and Bitcoins to invest in 50 new IP and beat everyone.

andy852h ago

To ruin great studios it's looking like

Skuletor1h ago

Sure, a plan to be a more hated game company than EA. Ubisoft were recently giving them a run for their money but I think Xbox have really knocked it out the park with their latest stunt.

neutralgamer19921h ago

Absolutely not, their whole plan is at odd with what MS wants

Phil wants GP to become big
MS wants to sell games and make billions

GP can’t be sustained with AAA games which take 3-5 years and 7 figure budgets. Only go put those games on GP day one. Why do you think games are coming out on other platforms?

People want a change and want Phil gone without realizing if someone new comes along they may want to change everything again so we just keep going in circles. Phil has to realize that and give clear message on the direction of Xbox

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Brad Hilderbrand explains the reason behind the recent Xbox studio closures

There are two reasons why all those Bethesda studios closed, and neither of them have anything to do with Bethesda (directly)...

Game Pass and Activision.

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Christopher6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

The guy confirming what we've all (well, most of us) been saying since the latest purchase.

crazyCoconuts3h ago

Remember the relatively common counter that went something like "I'm sure you arm-chair CEOs know better how to run a company than the biggest company in the world"?

I mean - there's a lot to running a company for sure, but on this topic it's hard to understand how Phil and team didn't see this coming.

Tody_za3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Phil and team knew it was coming and planned for it. It's not even a conspiracy, it's simply the business of cutting costs and superfluous studios after a major acquisition. They don't give a damn about Tango Gameworks or other small creative studios that won't recoup their losses. They don't care about investing in this industry. They have no interest in risky and expensive new IP. They are only interested in profiting off ownership of Bethesda IP, Call of Duty and Candy Crush.

I guarantee you that not one single game under their banner will improve or become bigger and better.

Welcome to the Xbox family, what a pathetic joke.

Anyone who continues to support this, enjoy your future, because this is it. Ninja Theory is next, and Perfect Dark after that.

Christopher2h ago

Especially not with the evidence of tons of existing movie streaming subs out there and how they fail to make a profit with over 100m users each quarter.

Lightning771h ago

Apparently they're debating if they wanna put the new Cod on Gamepass or not.

Either grow GP with Cod or don't put it on GP and grow the revenue the traditional way while GP will suffer.

The mess that MS puts themselves in.

XiNatsuDragnel6h ago

I'm not surprised Microsoft guys are crock nuff said

isarai6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Honestly i think Bethesda needs to buy themselves out of zenimax/MSs hands and do their own thing, i honestly think that would fix a lot of issues and save them from a potential closure.

Zeref6h ago

There's a reason they sold in the first place. And Bethesda is not closing anytime soon lol. As much as I hate the studio closures. They were all small studios 2 of them were mobile studios.

I think these are growing pains and Xbox will get back on track. But they're not getting any more passes.

jwillj2k44h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I’d like to see your reaction to being growing pained out of your job after the launch of a successful product.

Mr_cheese2h ago

Excuses, Excuses, excuses.

If growing pains have been happening for the best part of a decade, they're not growth.

XiNatsuDragnel2h ago

Zeref nii San
I'm sorry but xbox has been rightfully bashed due to constant incompetence

romulus231h ago

Yet you literally just gave them a pass, being "small studios" or "mobile studios" is irrelevant. There's no excsue for closing Tango, none. They praise the game, they PR talk about it's the kind of game the company needs and yet they shutter the developer, that's foul on every level.

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Tacoboto2h ago

Bethesda greenlit Redfall, launched Fallout 76 in the condition it was in (and the fiasco with the bonus bag), and spent all that time on Starfield finishing it as it was with that same engine. Wolfenstein Youngblood exists because of them too, not Microsoft.

Are you *sure* leaving them alone would actually result in a better outcome, not just a different one?

isarai57m ago(Edited 55m ago)

A lot of this excessive monetization, and GAAS crap started when Zenimax decided to start looking for a buyer. Not a coincidence that there was a sudden shift in prioritizing profits above quality or even coherence at the same time. They wanted big numbers to attract buyers, now that they've been bought, MS wants exactly what they were baited with.

However even under Zenimax they made enough to self publish sometimes, so i would imagine it's not too far fetched that they could pay their way into independence if they REALLY wanted to.

Also even people at Bethesda and Arkane were hoping MS would cancel the game as again, they were forced to make something they didn't want to make.

Einhander19726h ago

Ah, we can see how the Microsoft media machine works.

Every article I read now is some kind of attempt to shift the blame off Microsoft and paint them as the victims or convince people that Microsoft mistakes were just some kind unforeseeable unfortunate twist of fate.

The shills are out in full force today.

Christopher5h ago

This is not at all what this article is saying. It's saying that honest and useful studios are getting closed because of big money deals elsewhere and the faults with game pass as a model.

Einhander19725h ago

I understand what the article is about.

It's a deflection, it's a putting the cart before the horse article.

Let me tell you how this problem wouldn't have existed in the first place.

Microsoft not creating a service funded by subsidization and having the foresight to see that it would disrupt consumer spending habit to begin with. Then not buying Bethesda and undertaking costs for a service that was already failing to pay for itself because their own expectations of Game Pass having "billions" of subscribers was unobtainable from the very start.

And if you don't think that was the case go back to the article on the day Game Pass launched and read the comments from people from day one who foresaw that this would be an unsustainable model and would cause people to stop spending in the same way.

Christopher5h ago

***Microsoft not creating a service funded by subsidization and having the foresight to see that it would disrupt consumer spending habit to begin with.***

This article literally supports this opinion. He's not praising Game Pass or the ABK purchase.

Einhander19724h ago(Edited 4h ago)

This is an explanation of why it failed, there is zero blame put onto Microsoft itself.

Yes, it talks about what went wrong, but it doesn't say Microsoft shouldn't have done it. It doesn't say Phil should have foreseen this outcome and stopped before it got to this point.

"convince people that Microsoft mistakes were just some kind unforeseeable unfortunate twist of fate"

Christopher4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

***but you're seeing the impact; all those smaller studios making really interesting games are going to fall away, simply because as good as games like Hi-Fi Rush are, they're never going to make enough money to make up that $70B hole that Xbox now has to dig itself out of.***

If you see that as support or you explicitly just want people to end their argument with "and, in conclusion, Microsoft bad" then that's on you. This article does not support Microsoft's choices and highlights the faults. Nothing it says is good about these choices, even saying that putting CoD on Game Pass would be money losing for them because they've set themselves up for failure (and not putting it on there will drop subscriber numbers like crazy, meaning their Game Pass plans were shit to begin with).

No matter how you look at it, they're saying Microsoft made decisions that hurt the bottom line, force closures, and leave Game Pass in a situation where they lose no matter what they do. It's all negative.

Einhander19724h ago

Christopher, if Microsoft hadn't made Game Pass and bought a bunch of publishers would this article even need to exist?

Christopher4h ago

***Christopher, if Microsoft hadn't made Game Pass and bought a bunch of publishers would this article even need to exist? ***

How is this an argument to anything being discussed? This is just as valuable of an argument as "if fish had stayed in deeper waters, they wouldn't have evolved to tetrapods, adapted to shallow water and then to land, and we wouldn't even exist and have to worry about game pass at all."

You're bringing nothing to this argument and then complaining that other people are highlighting the issues with Game Pass and spending tens of billions on studios because what we should be discussing is what it would be like if Microsoft hadn't done any of that.

Well, they did do it. Now pull up your big boy pants and join in on the discussion of what that has meant for the industry since then and, especially right now, how that is affecting the industry and game studios under Microsoft. None of us are able to go back in time and change what was done.

Einhander19723h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Christopher, this isn't me not understanding what the article is about, it's you not understanding what I am saying.

If you want me to make excuses for Microsoft's bad decisions you're not going to get that or just agree with people who are doing that, it's not going to happen, nor are you going to convert me into thinking xbox "needs to exist".

Ya know what, maybe "Microsoft bad".... maybe their decisions ARE having a negative effect on the industry, and instead of deflecting from their actual actions and making excuses for them we stand up and say "no" "Microsoft is hurting the industry"

And maybe, just maybe, it was so obvious that this was going to be the outcome that even nobodies in comment sections on websites were able to easily predict this outcome, yet Microsoft did it anyway then kept doing and even when it became undeniable that it was having a negative impact on their business and and the industry itself, then they knowingly made even bigger purchases and caused more problems.

And the one thing you're right about is that I can't go back in time, but I CAN speak up and try to keep it from happening again...

Maybe if the people who were speaking up 7 years ago were listened too we wouldn't be having this discussion and Tango and Arkane would still be in business along with all the other people who have lost their jobs due to Microsoft's actions.

Do you like analogies?

What you're saying is like an alcoholic crashing their car then trying to explain it by saying it was caused by everything except the fact that they were dunk because they are an alcoholic and don't want to stop drinking.

TiredGamer3h ago

The article is essentially focusing the blame on MS. GamePass was a hail mary play to change the gaming paradigm and carve out a special niche for themselves, emulating the Netflix model, that might have led to MS becoming the leader in the long-term. Unfortunately, the subscriber growth isn't really there, and the model isn't really built to weather that lack of revenue. MS is now in a restructure mindset to figure out how they balance out their model in a way that can still make them money.

've always believed that GamePass was a high risk shot that had a very low chance of long-term success. But the problem with it, whether it succeeded or not, is that it accelerated the proverbial "race to zero" consumer expectation that ran its course in the mobile gaming industry in the late 2000s. When consumers start thinking that games should be "cheap" (as in through a $10/month all-you-can-eat subscription model), it turns the narrative against games being priced at realistic levels. So with the GamePass failure, they've not only sabotaged their market share, but they've impacted the entire industry and devalued the cost of game development to the average consumer. So now it's harder to develop mega-big budget games and to earn the revenue needed to pay for them.

XiNatsuDragnel1h ago

Again terrible excuses in the 1st place

Christopher2h ago

***If you want me to make excuses for Microsoft's bad decisions you're not going to get that or just agree with people who are doing that, it's not going to happen, nor are you going to convert me into thinking xbox "needs to exist". ***

No one is asking you to make excuses for Microsoft's bad decisions nor is anyone asking you to convert to anything.

***Ya know what, maybe "Microsoft bad".... maybe their decisions ARE having a negative effect on the industry, and instead of deflecting from their actual actions and making excuses for them we stand up and say "no" "Microsoft is hurting the industry" ***

Literally no one here is doing this. They're literally discussing how Microsoft's decisions have hurt the industry. Except you. You're rambling about why people aren't complaining about Microsoft when people are in fact complaining about Microsoft.

*** And the one thing you're right about is that I can't go back in time, but I CAN speak up and try to keep it from happening again... ***

Then perhaps actually add something to the conversation other than calling people shills when people are complaining about the decisions and repercussions of Microsoft's actions.

Tacoboto2h ago

Christopher, you're fighting a block wall here - Ein will continue twisting and contorting any remark to fit his self-created narrative.

Einhander19721h ago(Edited 1h ago)

"Then perhaps actually add something to the conversation other than calling people shills when people are complaining about the decisions and repercussions of Microsoft's actions."

Cristopher, in no way is the author of this article complaining, they are explaining what happened it's literally the title. They never once say that Microsoft shouldn't have bought Zenimax or Activision or that Game Pass was a bad idea to begin with. They think the problem with Game Pass is that it didn't grow fast enough, not that it was a bad idea from the get go.

BTW this is his job title.

"Public Relations and Communications Leader"

What do you think a Public Relations and Communications Leader does to make money?

Edit: I have read a dozen of these articles that just started coming out in the last 24 hours that are trying to shift the conversation away from blaming Microsoft, the shift here and in several other articles is trying to say it just didn't gain subscribers fast enough, not that it was a bad idea to begin with that was doomed to fail or placing the blame on anyone.

It was all just an unforeseeable outcome, no one should be held responsible it was just a billion dollar oopsie that's costing thousands of people their jobs and has caused a downturn in the entire industries sustainability.

Oopsie!

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MrDead4h ago

It's greed. MS has the IP's it wants now it's dumping the studios that it's raided, MS will still make money from Tango's games unlike the people that made them. If anyone follows MS outside of gaming you'll see this is what they do, buy companies take what they want consolidate some of the workforce and shut them down. I don't know why people are acting so surprised when this is Microsoft being Microsoft.

MS is a three trillion dollar company, if it enters a market it has no need to compete, they take what they want and with the financial influence it can bypass laws that are meant to protect the consumer and the workforce. Just look at how they are cornering the AI market right now with buyups and investments.

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Microsoft Is Finally Ending Its Focus On Big Budget Gaming Nonsense

Back when the Xbox 360 launched, Microsoft pushed the big budget game as a differentiator. Following all the recent layoffs, it’s clear this strategy has run its course.

Einhander19727h ago(Edited 7h ago)

The Microsoft shill take on the Microsoft causing the death of big budget gaming...

The whole driving force for growth in gaming both technologically, creatively and financially was all nonsense, and it was definitely not because Microsoft ran the industry into the ground with obviously bad decisions and creating an unprofitable business model that massively disrupted consumer spending habits. /s

RpgSama6h ago

First, F**** Forbes and their shill take, I hope the money cleared by now.

Second, Which big budget games I might ask? Microsoft has been in a rut for like a decade now, with no big publisher and developers puechases they would have not released anything in the last 5 years but the new Halo and Forza.

Eonjay3h ago

Fortunately for us, since we know this message is basically coming from Microsoft, we can read into their motives. Why are they trying to turn people against big budget games and who would it help.... hmmm.

neutralgamer19922h ago

GP is like any content service it needs new content. AAA games take 100 plus million (low end estimates since most AAA games take double that) and it 4-5 years to develop. That’s why there were 2 god of war games instead of 3 because Cory felt like it would take too long

I am not defending MS. That’s just the reality when you put all your eggs in one basket (gamepass) and now they need content. Sadly that’s what we all said would happen and is happening. GP will be a service for AA games with 1-2 AAA games on yearly basis. And I am all for AA games because to me that’s where developers can take chances on smaller budgets but MS has mismanaged this whole situation from the beginning. Their messaging needs to be clear and it’s not

They own so many studios and IP’s they just need to get everyone on schedule so that there are games releasing every few months on GP. But I don’t even think Phil knows what he wants. It seems his goals change constantly

Game pass is not a sustainable and take two ceo was right when he said that it doesn’t make any business sense to release huge AAA games day one on GP. Just like call of duty shouldn’t be on GP because why give up on 15-20 million sales

Einhander19720m ago

"And I am all for AA games because to me that’s where developers can take chances on smaller budgets"

How'd that work out for Tango?

Do you think less AAA games will increase game pass revenue or decrease it when it has less value? What if they also have to increase the costs?

S2Killinit1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

Right on.

Hahaha MS has ended “focus” on games? Lol when? 3 generations ago maybe?

Hofstaderman7h ago

Ah Forbes. One of the prominent MS mouthpieces....

Luc206h ago

Microsoft is finally... ahhh I've never heard this one before!

Petebloodyonion6h ago

LOL, this article is a big pile of dog crap...
Spencer has been constantly telling ppl that NO they would not go the route of having games like TLOU, Uncharted, etc because Playstation exists and prefers to focus on a diverse portfolio.

How many years have we seen Xbox as no game and we don't want small games like ORI, Pentiment, Grounded, etc.?

That's the real tragedy and why lots of gamers are mad at MS right now
because they have been championing smaller titles and yet fired the ppl delivering exactly what they were proning about.

So no the only nonsense is that MS seems now to be going BACK to AAA popular titles..sorry, I meant refocusing effort on core established IP where broken GAAS might be rewarded versus praised and rewarded work.

Einhander19726h ago(Edited 6h ago)

https://media1.tenor.com/m/...

You read an article cheerleading the end of big budget games and all the other articles about problems and this is what you have to say? That's what you think "the real tragedy" is?

I thought that xbox fans might finally "get it", but no, it seems they don't even understand what is happening and what is at stake.

Petebloodyonion3h ago

Please tell me what's happening and what is at stake

Since it's not big companies closing small studios, killing innovation while refocusing assets on big ongoing projects and core IP?

Let's See MS Close Tango Studio mentions that they are too thin on key project
Sony Close London Studio and make massive cuts in Firespite will reallocate resources to core project
EA will focus on Core project
Square will focus on big established IP
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.....

crazyCoconuts6h ago

Hurray! No more big gam.... wait... what??

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