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gazgriff2k123888d ago

NO sony want something better, mabye there not happy with oculus rift resolution

Moncole3888d ago

The Oculus Rift can do 1080p

SonyNGP3888d ago

Anything above 1080p for an HMD is unnecessary.

Oschino19073888d ago

Maybe they have both been working on a similar concept for years, maybe.

sincitysir13888d ago

I'll buy whichever comes first but if Sony works better for the ps4 then ill buy that!

kneon3888d ago

@Oschino1907

Yes they have been working on a similar concept for years. They have already released two commercial versions of their visor and I expect we'll see a new version some time after the PS4 release.

But unless they can get the price down below $500 they won't see mass adoption no matter how good it might be.

slimeybrainboy3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

Does noone remeber Shuhei being asked if Sony would partner with Oculus and he said that 'Sony have a large research department that do alot of work' or something to that effect.

We have seen MS patent VR HMD and Sony are no doubt working on things. They already have HMD, 3D, Sixaxis and Move, I'm sure there are ways for them to incorporate alot of the things we've seen in Sony products into a VR HMD. There is no doubt Sony are working on one IMO, otherwise they would love the positivty they would get for partnering with Oculus, a really popular company right now. Sony have their own, as do MS.

I KNOW MS are going to have something special though. Look at Kinect, it can track your whole body. They will have their own version of the Oculus rift, but it will use Kinect to track your arms and body for full immersion. I have a feeling MS will combine Kinect with a great VR HMD to take VR to the next level. Then, I'll pick up an Xbox One, and play Ryse. Maybe.

ThanatosDMC3888d ago

Sony had some sort of virtual reality/tv glasses a long time ago. Is this it?

0ut1awed3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

Yea the oculus rift is 1080p now.

Whatever sony puts out for the ps4, I really doubt it will get the same quality as oculus rift quality though.

You have to have a screen for each eye, therefore the game has to render the image twice. It currently takes around $1300 in top of the line graphics cards ALONE (not to mention the price of the rest of the system) to get 60+fps in most games with oculus rift.

I think you'll have to wait for the ps5 for really true engaging virtual reality to be plausible. Not to say they can't do it on the ps4. It will probably be really low quality and/or 30fps though.

snipermk03888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

The Sony HMD is slightly better than the rift cos Sony uses OLED in their hmd which eliminates the screen door effect. That's why it's also pricey

@out1awed: oculus does NOT use a screen for each eye. It uses one screen and two magnified lenses for two eyes. How do I know? Cos I have the dev kit. I had no problem pushing 65fps on bf3 using a 760 GTX

starchild3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

After using the Oculus Rift for myself it was obvious that VR is a big part of the future of video games and it was only a matter of time until the console makers would want to get involved.

I'm going to get the consumer Rift at launch and consoles adopting VR can only be a good thing for the future of VR gaming.

That said, there are going to be more limits on the consoles. You need a steady 60fps for VR and the stereo 3D also incurs some performance hit, especially if it is geometric 3D and not simple z-buffer based 3D.

Many games on consoles are going to be 30fps and those games either won't work in VR or they will have to be downgraded and pared back in order to run at 60fps in stereoscopic 3D.

Still, this is only a good thing. Many simpler games will work just fine. I'm happy I'll be able to enjoy VR on my PC and my PS4.

I do have to say, though, that if the consoles do jump on the VR wagon I hope that they will just support the Oculus Rift instead of trying to build another proprietary device. I will already own a Rift for my PC and it would be nice to be able to just use that same device on my console as well, instead of having to spend several more hundred dollars to get one that only works with that console.

0ut1awed3887d ago (Edited 3887d ago )

@Sniper
Hmm maybe they've chnged it since the last time I looked into it. That's cool then but if you're using VR and not rendering it in 3d then you're doing it wrong in my opinion. That of course brings you back to the rendering two images at once which makes my original comment still hold up.

Also if you want people to actually listen to your argument on the issue and you really have a problem wih typing "because" atleast use "cause." The only time I see the word "cos" on n4g is something like "the x1 rulez cos the ps4 dont got cod dlc fist." It's kiling your credability man.

Mounce3887d ago

There IS nothing better than Oculus Rift right now, Sony is likely in talks with the team to make a PS4 model for them.

telekineticmantis3887d ago (Edited 3887d ago )

TISK TISK TISK. It doesn't matter what Sony brings to the market they never impliment it the right way or know how to use it.

Now they are gonna jump on the VR wagon when they had an AR/VR headset that would of changed gaming as we know it SMH..../

They could of used it with the PS Move and the camera could turn the move into any kind of weapon or instrument, that would of blown everything else out of the water. Imagine using the PSMove rifle in a shooter and it resing into the game as any type of weapon, use the opposite hand to throw an AR/VR grenade, or the Move turning into an AR/VR Sword or a lightsaber,

Sony drops the ball with their tech all the time and that's why they dont succeed like other companies, with them.

Gozer3887d ago

Lol is this some kind of joke? Sony doesnt have the money to fund this kind of r n d. If they escape with a victory regarding the ps4, you might see something in 20 years. It doesnt hurt to dream tho does it? Start by buying their eye toy camera, then you might see sony take an interest in this sort of thing. Until then, you are a hardcore poser. You are so stuck you dont know how to respond to progress. You will die out eventually and what you were afraid of will become the norm.

MuleKick3887d ago (Edited 3887d ago )

You guys do realize that the Sony Personal Viewer has been on the market for about a year now right?

All they need to do is implement a wireless option.
Ala, PS Vita on your face via remote play.

Rimeskeem3887d ago

@moncole

1080p? if its nots better 2k or better then there no point but on a serious note the oculus rift looks prettier cool

SatanSki3887d ago

Haha yeah, thay want better resolution but their hardware lack power to render all games in 1080p even ithout 3d

UltimateMaster3887d ago

What will be the price tag?
I bet it can't be over 250$.
Hell, it should be around 200$ or 150$.
Hopefully, not as expensive as Sony personal 3D viewer...

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3887d ago

I think sony wants something optimized for ps4 and works seamlessly with it.

Better to build ur own and not use rift.

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creatchee3888d ago

What, Kinect is a gimmick, but VR isn't?

MysticStrummer3888d ago (Edited 3888d ago )

"What, Kinect is a gimmick, but VR isn't?"

Kinect combined with VR could be very cool indeed, but if it's a choice between Kinect or VR combined with a controller, give me VR all day.

Just my opinion.

@sincity - They want to move like a squid with Kinect, but then they downplay Octodad. ; )

allformats3888d ago

Creatchee, VR isn't by no means a gimmick. I put on something and I see stuff in virtual reality, making the worlds come to life.

Kinect sees my wagging my hands like a man that's lost his mind to make something work. That is gimmick.

sincitysir13888d ago

Oculus rift is a camera. Ur just moving your heard not ur whole body like a crazy squid. U like crazy squid? Hmm *crazy eyes*

DragonKnight3888d ago

@creatchee: "What, Kinect is a gimmick, but VR isn't?"

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Also, all of these peripherals are merely the first baby steps towards this...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

BallsEye3888d ago

@creatchee

You should see what guys from Project Spark do with kinect. Check out their youtube channel. In Project Spark you can mo-cap your movement with kinect (character basicly do what you do even facial expressions etc) you record it and BAM you got new animations for your char, NPC's, cutscenes etc. Ah it also records your voice and adds effects (troll voice for ex.). You can share your animations and voices in the community hub. Is that a gimmick :O?

Irishguy953888d ago

Been saying it for years. Kinect is the future. Its useless right now but it is a step towards full on VR. Occulus rift are also a step towards it.

The final step is a mind reading device...(sounds mad but...well, technology is advancing a good bit when it comes to this). But, all towards the future right?

I just want my goddamn Full VR lightsaber combat game.

GiantEnemyCrab3888d ago

I saw Project Spark in action this weekend and it was crazy. I watched a guy build a fully playable platform level that looked as good as many indie games in about 20 minutes, using all his own assets.

hankmoody3888d ago

How many people do you know that would/could plunk down the $500 necessary to buy this? Not that many, I would imagine. And that answer translates to developers not supporting a niche accessory because of a low adoption rate. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for this but I don't see this being a huge success.

YNWA963887d ago

Waiting for the holodeck....saving all your profiles here so I can use it there... Be careful.... Jean Luc and Worf are on my side..... Riker is probably screwing Diana....

AJBACK2FRAG3887d ago

Lol! I feel sorry for you!

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Gster3888d ago

Console Wars!! PPPFFF!!

BRING ON THE V.R. WARS LOL

ravinash3888d ago

And I thought I had problems with the wife saying I'm ignoring her now when playing games...be much worse when I have a VR helmet on!

Kingthrash3603888d ago

it will be just right....I can tune that bi*ch all the way out with this tek! ..... and porn would be of better use...I just throw this baby on when im smashing my wife....win,win.

sak5003887d ago

@Kingthrash360

Smashing in your right hand and calling it a b!tch. Nice.

Grow up mate and have a gf first before trash talking anonymously on random forum sitting in your mom's basement.

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cunnilumpkin3888d ago

more fail like move and 3d??

just make good games

quit with the gimmicks, no one is gonna be sitting around their house wearing that terrible looking piece of crap

DJMarty3888d ago

Sony has already been on record saying the had a Oculus Rift SDK and were playing around with it:)

FamilyGuy3887d ago

Either way it'll be cool. Sony making something similar/better or if they get Oculus Rift compatibility. I kind of hope they get Oculus just because I respect the ambitions of the company. Them declining to be sold/bought is pretty bold though when faced with a company like Sony MS of Nin showing interest.

specialguest3887d ago

My ultimate next gen dream will come true when the consumer version of the oculus rift arrives.

Check out this guy playing a horror demo on the oculus rift. http://m.youtube.com/watch?...

It seems like the horror experience is multiplied by 100 when you're totally immersed in the world.

Zancruz3887d ago

Just imagine playing a game like Dying Light with Oculus Rift and Move that would be beyond epic! I mean man, Just seriously think about it (No fanboy crap)... Looking around in full 3D with 1:1 motion controls for each arms... imagine looking through some supplies and a Zombie grabs you from behind? Yeah we would need to wear diapers is all im saying... lol

Joe9133887d ago

Sony has been working on HMD for at least 4 maybe 5 years not sure how long they been working on Oculus but I do know Sony showed off there headset first at a CES 4 or 5 years ago.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3887d ago (Edited 3887d ago )

man xbox & ninty news is just lame on here lol sony is owning everything lol

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KonsoruMasuta3888d ago

Oh, yes. Now all we need is some eroge and a console port of Custom Maid.

KonsoruMasuta3888d ago

Why are people disagreeing? Do you not think the possibilities with this tech are great?

kingPoS3888d ago

Or what if some truly uninhibited mind melded a game with Oculus Rift & Kinect
Think Sword Art online... the game... for reals. lol

Joe9133887d ago

I can see this with some games but not most if I am playing a FPS or a game where you have a sword or something in the hands I would need something in my hands I think the PS move is good for these types of games a Kinect is great for workout games where you don't need anything in your hands. Kill Zone 3 using the PS move sharp shooter and 3d with my pulse headphones has been the best gaming experience since I started to play games never have I been so immersed in a game world.

Benjammin253887d ago

Survival horror is going to hit a whole new level of terrifying.

MacDonagh3887d ago

Yeah. It could be nice but I'd be happier if they could just nail 60 fps 1080p on my telly first.

One thing is for certain that the headset is not going to be cheap.

fsfsxii3888d ago

"VR" in Solid Snake's voice.
He makes it look like the shieeeeeet

nunley333887d ago

i would so play MGS VR missions with this.

Fishy Fingers3888d ago

Rather see them just support Oculus Rift than make their own version. Unlikely though.

Ryto3888d ago

I agree, or at the very least have a rebranded OR variant that is officially supported by Sony. But, if they can do better...

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 4h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken15h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola20h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66923h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle23h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 16h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 16h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 11h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies22d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91321d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit21d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6921d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit21d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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