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Sony Jim Ryan interview – ‘Giving away stuff on day one… it’s kind of odd’

GameCentral talks with Sony’s European boss about having enough PS4s to go around, countering Microsoft’s FIFA 14 deal, and The Last Guardian.

theWB273911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

Sony supporters boast about getting so much free stuff...F2P games...PS+ games...PS3 online multiplayer
(As Godchild1020 stated below)
14 days of plus for free with every new PS4 purchase.

Microsoft gives away Fifa for free....and it's odd.

If you are new to how each camp works..that's it in a nutshell.

@sinncross
It doesn't change anything. Driveclub is a day one F2P game...you can buy the rest if you want. But they are offering free games, day one. It isn't odd...it's a stupid way to look at something when you too are doing the same thing.

FlameHawk3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

Lol do you think everyone is going to get Fifa for free? Only Europe is getting it and it is a limited amount.
You talk about fanboys when you are a Xbox Fanboy? Lol.
And the ONLY reason they are giving Fifa away is they are trying to win over all the people who pre-ordered a PS4 but it isn't going to work because PS4+Fifa 14 is still cheaper.
And don't be mad we get free games.
$60 Xbox Live Gold vs $50 PS+, plus DriveClub, Outlast, Don't Starve, Resogun, Secret Ponchos. Lol Xbox Live is a joke compared to PS+.

And you are complaining about 14 days of plus? I don't see Microsoft giving 14 days of Live.

HammadTheBeast3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

Europe Pre-orders only.

It's not exactly FREE, so to say, it's $440 for the console, and $60 for the game.

:-)

ErcsYou3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

Most of Sonys "Free" Stuff is either Sony owned or all ready free on the PC. Also anything received free from PS+ is revoked after the 14 day free trial.( unless you pay for PS+) I think what he was saying is that its odd that MS Paid for Fifa to give it away for free. Deep down we all know why there giving that one away free, to up the preorder count.

sinncross3911d ago

@theWB27

You know what the difference is between FIFA14 w/ X1 and DC with PS+?

Sony owns and developed DriveClub, MS had nothing to do with the development of Fifa.

MS is paying more money to sell launch hardware, whereas Sony are not. Hence why Jim Ryan thinks it is odd: he does not believe that including Fifa14 is going to show a noticeable increase in X1's sold at launch because people are going to buy the new hardware with or without the added game , in his opinion.

So it is not the same thing at all.

theWB273911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

@FlameHawk
Where did I say, or insinuate, everyone received a free copy? No where..I know it's limited to certain amount of preorders.

The only reason...the only reason...so what. People are receiving a free copy...who cares about the reason.

"Don't be mad we get free games." Who gives a crap, I have a PS3... had a PS3 this entire gen...along with my 360 and plan on doing the same thing next gen. A PS4 right next to my X1.

Lol at you people and your nananana look what I have statements.

My PSN and gamertags are on my profile. I don't miss out just because I support Xbox.

@sinncross
Oh...so it's the difference on where it comes from. Ok...holy geez free is free is free.

trafalger3911d ago

people keep suggesting fifa was a response to low pre-orders. how would anyone know this? the far more likely scenario is m$ is trying harder to get europe to buy into the xbox. the uk was one of the few areas where they had great success in. these types of deals are months in the planning. it's not like they see pre-orders are low and call up ea the following week and say "hey, let's make a deal" and the following day they announce fifa is free. we knew well in advance ea and m$ were partnering together. way before pre-orders were even being accepted at retailers.

it's the same reason why the ps4 is shipping in the u.s, and canada first and not japan. it's to have a better competitive presence in a market they want to do better in.

i just hope sony doesn't get too cocky again if the ps4 does really well like they did when the ps2 was such a big success. it looks like m$ is starting to see how arrogant they were becoming with the xbone early on.

PSjesus3911d ago

PSN+ is a service for 50$ not free and instant game collection are equal renting as you are paying yearly for plus and games aren't yours that's the difference
Sony know what they are talking about.
F2P games are developer opinion and strategy not Sony's one

Minato-Namikaze3911d ago

Drive club isnt a F2P game, lol

4Sh0w3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

Who cares for those who want FIFA they don't care why, they're just happy its free.

malokevi3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

@flamehawk

Attempting to lure people who preordered ps4? that's ridiculous. If anything, they're trying to capture the droves of prospective Christmas & boxing week buyers.

Spin, spin, spin...

bjmartynhak3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

Well,

PS+ is a service you pay. Considering I only end up getting the games that I wouldn't buy anyway, it seems to be profitable for them.

F2P games are already F2P on PC, Sony is just bringing them to PS4.

They give lots of days of PS+ vouchers for free, including in some 1st party games pre-orders. I became a subscriber because one of these. Hard to go back. They are providing a small taste of their own service.

Driveclub is a "generous-demo", just as Killer Instinct

BUT deciding on giving a full 3rd-party new game in the last weeks before release sounded like a desperate measure.

Ausbo3911d ago

@flamehawk.

If you pay $60 for xbox live you are freakin retarded. ive never seen it more than $45 on amazon. In fact, ive always seen psn more expensive online.

Oh and those "free games" from psn aren't even yours. Cause they go away if you stop paying for psn.

And just to let you know, if youve tried both xbox live and psn, (like me) than you would realize the overall better service is xbox live.

patsrule3163911d ago

@ausbo: I just bought a year of XBLG for $30 last week. Its for my renewal in January, so I'll have live for all of 2014. Probably my last year for now. I'll keep my 360 active alongside a PS4 next gen.

@ theWB27: I don't think the headline is taking in the context of the statement when it says 'giving away stuff...its kind of odd'. He was saying in Sony's position for the PS4 release, it would be odd to give away a game, since they have already filled up their day one pre-order list. He did say that if you felt you needed to entice consumers, it was a reasonable thing to pursue. I think the headline was more sensational than what he was actually trying to say.

ForgottenProphecy3911d ago

Only day one European consumers get Fifa. This is called an incentive to get the console day one. F2P games are free for life, so that's an incentive to get the console in general. There is a huge difference between the two. The interviewee actually pointed out that Microsoft probably did this to boost pre-orders in Europe because they weren't doing so well.

The_Con-Sept3911d ago

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5eriously3911d ago

@WB27. Still waiting for all PS3 articles just to troll. The handout of Fifa14 for free is a consolation for not delivering by M$. These free stuff is just free from Sony to support the Sony supporters, not to try and sell the PS4. That happens naturally all by itself. Sony does not have to backtrack anything to get sales. Sony did not have to fire Cerny and retire off their CEO.

Now think with your brains not with those nuts.

theWB273910d ago

@5eriously
I'm sorry, but where is the father of the Playstation Ken Kutaragi?

Sony CEO Howard Stringer replaced by Kaz Hirai last year.

Sony mobile pres Bert Nordberg replaced by Kunimasa ‘Kuni’ Suzuki around the same time.

Sony's been reshuffling more than a Vegas card dealer...

3-4-53910d ago

@WB27 - Sony isn't giving those away for free day one, those are free ALWAYS.

There is a difference.

Also, what they are giving away, is already being given for free, prior to release on multiple platforms.

5eriously3910d ago

Those were not forced moves due to stupid decisions like in this case with M$. Effectivle both were "fired" for the eXBone debacle and pre-order drought. Big diffrence. Now stop trolling with cr@p and BS.

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sinncross3911d ago

I feel like ppl are not bothering to actually read what he said in the interview.

He is asked about whether Sony will try a game deal for launch like MS did with FIFA14. His reply is

`Giving away stuff on day one of a new platform launch, in my mind it’s kind of odd.`

not because free stuff is bad, but because he believes that the launch hardware will sell well with or without the added game.

Basically, he does not see the point in paying more money for a deal that might not necessarily see an increase in hardware sold at *launch*.

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AznGaara3911d ago

Yeah it's a comment from the business point of view. Think about it, it's FIFA and Europe, how much money did MS have to throw at EA for that to happen? Honestly why spend money on that when you can use that money to get some indie games... Oh wait, we hate indie games. Lol

humbleopinion3911d ago

It was never odd outside the realm of Sony...

After all, the NES was famous for including Super Mario - one of its best games - with every console. Nintendo continued with that tradition up until the WiiU today. Similarly the Atari had pac-man game included, but I'm not sure if it was there from day one. Sega followed suit and even with the Dreamcast I had Sonic Adventures bundled with the console.
Actually, even the X360 also came with Hexic HD bundled with every console with a hard drive.

Majin-vegeta3911d ago

Good interview and it's always the Sony people with a since humor.

AznGaara3911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

Yeah I really liked the interview. Seemed pretty chill. But still... I'm telling you all... Last Gaurdian TGS. Confirmed launch title. They need that last "surprise" lol ... Only in my dreams though. :/

Jeff2573911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

I want Kingdom Hearts 2 HD for PS3 announced at TGS. That would go nicely with KH 1.5 coming out this fall. Also Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep for Vita or an HD version of that as well. Also maybe give us a better idea of when KH 3 will be coming out.

Godchild10203911d ago (Edited 3911d ago )

Aren't they giving away 14 days of plus with every PS4 purchase which also allows those people to play DriveClub and Resogun for free, day one?

I'm not saying it's a bad thing, we all like free stuff or just better deals with our purchases.

badkolo3911d ago

yeah ,how this is bad is beyond me, i remeber the days were consoles came with a game, so when you got home you had something to actually play, times have changed so you can play free demos and such but a free game is a free game

wtopez3911d ago

It's really not odd at all.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18811d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 3h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos17h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb3316h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC7h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 9h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies21h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear2115h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k41d 12h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 11h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC7h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon6158616h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k411h ago(Edited 11h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k411h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 12h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 1h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage18h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 11h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 10h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 2h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn197916h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage18h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1822d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie2d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1d 17h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin1d 23h ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1d 17h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1d 3h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 18h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1d 4h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney22h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno2d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii1d 23h ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno1d 21h ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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