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Xbox One or PlayStation 4? Whichever You Choose, You Win

Gamebrit writes: "Back in May Microsoft’s Xbox One was unveiled at a special media event, bringing with it a number of ill-favoured key policies, such as enforced Digital Rights Management (DRM), a compulsory Kinect camera and a £429 price tag (the latter of which was announced at E3). As a result of these unpopular decisions Sony’s PlayStation 4 quickly became the leading ‘next-gen’ choice in many gamers minds.

However, a lot has changed since then, with us now arriving at a point where things are a lot more even. So, with the playing field levelling out, does it really matter which ‘side’ you pick?"

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ABeastNamedTariq3898d ago

Oh, most definitely. I can't wait until November.

Hopefully everybody will just focus on playing their new systems and finally shutup. At least for a while.

Shadowsteal3897d ago

Nope lol People are going to start citing reviews of Forza vs DriveClub
Knack
Killer Instinct
Ryse
Killzone: Shadowfall etc.

ShugaCane3897d ago

And those people will be happy (or stubbornly pretend to be) with their own choices of game, so I guess "Whichever you choose, you win" says it right.

theBAWSE3897d ago

Microsoft have abandoned two consoles in a row

They suck you in with third party exclusive games in the beginning, once they have they couldn't give a toss as their newer shinier toy is on the horizon

People have short memories it's deja vue for a third time

No thank you Microsoft I'll stick with the ps3 which still has new ips coming out and buy the ps4 when I've finished

BallsEye3897d ago

@theBAWSE

Shut up. People like you made this site go down low. I could give you million reasons why you got short memory about sony but I won't. Go figure yourself and get lost. As you see this article is written for people who buy their own toys.

n4rc3897d ago

Drop 30 grand on a car and have the warranty end after 5 years.. Then come talk to me about product life cycles...

People spend a few hundred bucks on a game and expect a decade of support...

humbleopinion3897d ago

If by "abandoning" you mean 7+ years of first party games, I'd love to be abandoned like that every generation.

I'd say that Microsoft only started abandoning the 360 after Horizon, Halo 4 and the latest Gears around march this year (although there's still a flux of indie XBLA games).
Sony still offers quality games and will probably continue into at least early 2014, but they started offering the console and their games one year later as well.

So overall Xbox 360 2005-2013 VS PS3 2006-2014. Both offered around 8 years of quality games, which is more than I can say about any previous generation since the NES era.

mcstorm3897d ago

@humbleopinion I agree and for me the Wiiu should also be included in this. I don't get the fan boys on here a lot of the time. Owning a games console is like owning any other electronic device and why people get up tight over them I don't know. I own a surface but don't go round telling everyone who has an iPad or android that there crap and List reasons. We have choice for a reason as we all like different things.

For me the next 12 months is about the Wiiu and Xbox one and I will pick a ps4 up later on next year.

NewZealander3897d ago

@theBAWSE

thats a weak attempt bro, everyone knows the focus is on the new consoles, thats exactly where i want to see MS focus their attention right now.

im having plenty of fun catching up on games i missed, and looking forward to fable anniversary as being my farewell to the 360.

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NatureOfLogic3898d ago

Not really. If you support Xbox One, you support MS. Who tried to single handly ruin gaming as we know it. Most can forgive all they want. MS have to prove to me over a long period of time now.

Gster3898d ago

If MS had have played "Ballmore" thing could have been very different. Alas, whats "Don" is "Don". It doesn't really "Mattrick" anymore. But if the "Shuehei" was on the other foot, MS would "Cerney" be looking down at Sony, and the xbox1 would definitely "Tretton" ps4 for top spot! :P

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come_bom3897d ago (Edited 3897d ago )

"If you support Xbox One, you support MS. Who tried to single handly ruin gaming as we know it."

Dumbest thing I've heard today. Seriously! Grow up fanboy.

deadie3897d ago

@come_bom:

Where have you been the last 4 months?

Yeah it was kinda "dumb" - by Microsoft.

Umb3897d ago

I think that's the kind of attitude MS is banking on, where people will easily forget about the past or just gloss over it by saying: but they made all these changes. Making reversals on bad decision is not the point, the point is the intent is was there at the very beginning and changes were only made not because of the outcry by the consumers but rather by the potential loss of market share MS saw from the preorder results.

Just like many governments of this world, we only care about you when it will ensure will we win office in the election and once we get into office we do what we want!

Dude Dutch3897d ago

@come bom

Typical comment from somebody who joined 9 days ago. Did you start gaming 9 days ago?

Foxhound9223897d ago (Edited 3897d ago )

Oh you're one of those people aren't you? The people who like restrictions, pay walls, no game support, required internet, 24 hr check ins, and most of all, being bent over I suppose. If you can remember, Microsoft wanted all of these things, and sadly still has a few of these. The ONLY reason they reversed some of there most infamous policies was because that they are getting their a$$es handed to them in preorders. I guess your one of the people who really know how to "dealwithit#"

n4rc3897d ago

Sigh... Give it a rest...

None of it ever happened.. And even if it did, its not ruining gaming.. In any way shape or form..

You continue to ignore every single benefit of those policies and act like they were just put their to screw people.. If you haven't noticed.. Microsoft doesn't make billions of dollars a year by ruining the internet and your home office!

Let's all forget about Sony removing Linux support after selling the feature.. Or the cinava protection blocking playback of movies or how about just losing my credit card number??

Let's talk about shit that actually happened!

Its pathetic.. You need to stop but I know you won't.. Nothing better to do..

stage883897d ago

So soon people forget.
I bet the guys at Microsoft are laughing their heads off now.

It'll take a long time before i trust them again.

come_bom3897d ago (Edited 3897d ago )

Well... guess I'll have to explain what I meant, since some people are too slow to understand. I wasn't bashing Microsoft not was I agreeing with their policies. The dumbest thing is claiming that Microsoft single handily tried to ruin gaming as we know it... Microsoft doesn't have that power, nor Sony, nor Nintendo. If Microsoft implemented those policies they WOULDN'T have ruined gaming as we know it. It was simply a different approach to gaming, something similar to Steam, Google store or Apple store. It was up to consumers to choose if they are interested or not in their console with those policies... most consumers were against their policies, so Microsoft changed them to please consumers. Simple as that. Every company tries to sell their product to the most consumers they can. Microsoft does it, Sony does it, Nintendo does it.

deadie3897d ago (Edited 3897d ago )

@come_bom: Well they might not have "the power" (?) but they did in fact try & they failed. Big time.

If you dont understand why forced policies and control over your potential consumers is a bad thing then i guess youre kind of slow.

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Funantic13897d ago

You forgave Sony for the 77 million hacks and shutting down PSN for a month didn't you? That was way worse than anything MS ever did. And at least the 180s by MS was before launch. I forgive both companies for their mistakes. They both could make more in the future. They'll both sell fine. And they both make each other better.

M-M3897d ago

You say it like the PS3, Wii, and 360 weren't hacked in some sort of way. People spewing "Sony got hacked for a month!" don't even know the story behind it, my goodness.

RiPPn3897d ago

Your statement makes it sound like Sony was the one that did the hacking. That's like blaming a woman who got her purse snatched for the theft.

Sony has had it's faults I do agree, but the writing has been on the wall with Microsoft for years, the Xbox One controversy just shined a giant light on what people have long suspected.

LOGICWINS3897d ago

If that purse had the financial records/identities of 77 million people who trusted her with that information, she shouldn't have been in a position where there was even a remote possibility of her being robbed.

B-radical3897d ago

Yup true Sony's security better be up to scratch next gen a whole bunch of gta has leaked because of it...but to some thats not a bad thing

saint_seya3897d ago

How many lost money, accounts on psn? oh right Noone did, and tbh its easier to buy gold memeber accounts than psn on the internet.. SO WHO IS THE ONE GETTING HACKED.. Ill give u clue, starts with x and ends with box #if u dont believe me check on google, if u know how to use it u will see that.
Damn scammers/hackers are #or at least were# selling gold accounts.. AND BTW, our psn accounts were free, but GOLD ACCOUNTS been sold were paid for poor guys that lost money.
And btw check on the people that was telling that they couldnt take their credit cards from autorenew with MS #ms playing around to keep the autorenew#. Add that to people that is selling gold accounts, thats a great combo..

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M-M3897d ago

Dang man can you chill out lol, I agree with you but articles like this don't call for posts like that.

EXVirtual3897d ago

Nature, I agree with you, but now's not the time or article to post that.

marloc_x3897d ago

If you feel Sony has no interest in DRM, best someone give you a pinch and wake you up..

dark-hollow3897d ago

You just can't fight the urge to shit on anything ms related.

dannylilley3897d ago

I think that's a fair comment but as I pointed out in the article that comes under personal (as opposed to subjective) preference, something you're 100% entitled to. On a strictly console feature set topic however both consoles are far more similar than they once were.

Maybe Microsoft will win you over eventually but if not I'm sure Sony will be glad to have you onboard :)

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PSNintyGamer3898d ago

Yep, Which ever one you choose your a winner. Don't let any haters or fanboys tell you different.

Automatic793897d ago

Gamers want to enjoy games. Both systems offer excellent games. We all win.

GenericNameHere3897d ago

Fanboy P: Look! So and so gave this game a *insert favorable score here*!!
Fanboy X: Well, so and so have THIS game a *insert great score here*!
Fanboys P: Look at the Metacritic! This game got a *score*!
Fanboys X: Oh yeah, well this game has better textures. *Insert performance site here* said so!

Rinse and repeat. Sometimes, their roles get reversed, and Fanboy P says Fanboys X's line, and vice versa. This will repeat next gen, the gen after that, and every gen after that. You can never win if you only have one.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle11h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18818h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio8h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning773h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga10h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21839h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga8h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan4h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus233h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv723h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10113h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos13h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-2h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac12h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10111h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead3h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 9h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken20h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 5h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 5h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 5h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 1h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 4h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 4h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 20h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 18h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 15h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 8h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 10h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 6h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 18h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 4h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 3h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger50m ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos1d 20h ago (Edited 1d 20h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 19h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 19h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 16h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 19h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 17h ago (Edited 1d 17h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 18h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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