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Does Microsoft Deserves Kudos For Addressing Many of The Concerns About the Xbox One?

Skewed and Reviewed has posted an opinion piece that suggests that Microsoft should be given kudos for the way they have handled the Xbox One after their early stumbles with the system.
The article praises their willingness to listen to consumers an change several features of the system pre-launch such as the DRM and Kinect requirement.

xReDeMpTiOnx3922d ago

No they don't deserve kudos. They owe the gamers a reasonable consumer friendly system without speed bumps as such as they have had. The consumers is what makes sure that Microsoft has a market for consoles and they should be treated in such a way to continue having a successful console market.

If anything they owe consumers an apology for the way they presented the Xbox to consumers basically tell then they were SOL if they didnt agree with the policies.

golding893922d ago

Spin it any way you want but MS could have easily go with the mandatory kinect sell the system that way. Overtime those people who wants to play xbox games would have had to deal with it. but the fact that they did address them says they are listening.

Some will say it's pre-order sales but bottom line is everyone company wants to make money.

Godmars2903922d ago

"Spin it any way you want but MS could have easily go with the mandatory kinect sell the system that way."

If they had, if they had kept with most of their original plans, they would have been looking at a lot of negative backlash. That there were - are - some people who would have bought the console regardless is besides the point.

Just as it is that some will continue to denounce or refuse to forgive MS for their mistakes. Just like some still don't forgive Sony for an offhanded comment made years ago.

Ashlen3922d ago

Would have had to deal with it by buying a PS4 you mean. Which is pretty much what happened, and why PS4 is basically outselling Xbox by 40% in North America.

Listening would have been making the change around the time they were firing Adam Orth.

NukaCola3922d ago (Edited 3922d ago )

MS should of admitted they messed up but they just spin PR and inadvertently dig deeper holes. Even though the PS3 was successful Sony still came out this generation excited yet humble. MS was arrogant and open about how little they cared for games. Now they are clearly are caving into whatever anyone says because they were looking at drowning in their own mess with the crap they pulled out the gate. If they acted the least bit apologetic I would of been more open to giving them a second shot at my wallet, but it's MS and they came into this gen using their American gaming lead to push their non gaming agenda.

Deadpoolio3922d ago

No it doesn't say that they are listening it actually sounds pretty pathetic in a way.....They knew they were and still are getting crushed by PS4 preorders, so rather than have a moderate launch they felt the need to show NO faith and NO conviction about their original "vision" of their product.

Granted they are plenty of Microsoft defenders like you I am assuming who will continue to eat up everything they do even though none of you can even begin to explain just what their vision is anymore....

Anyone with half a brain would actually be a bit turned off by their blatant pandering, and constant need to play catchup with Sony. Which is literally all they are doing...The last biggest sign of weakness they could show would be to remove the Kinect....

Like it or not fanboys Microsoft got caught with their pants down in February, they assumed Sony wouldn't release until 2014 considering they didn't even start looking at their next machine until 2010..You can't even make sense in your comment, you say they are listening and then cancel yourself out with the preorder comment which is EXACTLY why they've done more 180s than a Russian Ballerina....

They are a crackhead looking for a fix, eventually they are going to start offering hand jobs and head for a sale all just to avoid having a successful but smaller launch.

IF they had an actual vision for the XBO which I seriously doubt they ever really had, they would have stuck to the plan not lied or been shady and actually explained it, went out of their way to make sure people knew what they vision was.....But they didn't really have one they just wanted to see what they could do and how far they could go to take away control from the consumer.....

Funny that they claimed all those restrictions and DRM were needed for a "digital" future, considering that Sony has been pushing a digital future for the last 3 years constantly having 90% of games on PS3 available Day 1 digitally....I'm sitting on at least 65 full retail PS3 games right now and it doesn't require that I be hammered with DRM and restrictions

TomShoe3922d ago

You don't get kudos for solving problems if you caused them in the first place.

That's all that needs to be said.

stage883922d ago

Not at all.

Why thank them for things they should of done in the first place?
They should be apologising to us.

andreasx3922d ago

they didn't have the guts to go through with their vision of the future of consoles. I don't want to buy a console from a company that doesn't have a spine and don't stand for their actions.

MysticStrummer3922d ago (Edited 3922d ago )

"Spin it any way you want but MS could have easily go with the mandatory kinect sell the system that way."

As long as you have to buy it, it's still mandatory.

OT - I don't know if kudos is the right word, but the number of changes they've made in such a short time is amazing, especially when they said some of those changes were impossible. They've flipped more than one unflippable switch since the reveal.

Sitdown3921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

@Tomshoe
So if you cause a problem, and decide to right your wrong instead of just letting your error stand.....you don't get any kudos. So in your mind, anybody who turns their life around for the better should never get praised. I can applaud somebody for trying to change, so needless to say I disagree....on another note. The xbox one has not even been released, so technically there is not an error at this point......just abstract ideas that could have led to an error.

Kryptix3921d ago

Before the Xbox One reveal, I gave Microsoft the benefit of the doubt against all the leaks and rumors. That they were changing their console for the majority of their fans which were against DRM for months beforehand. And even the month of the reveal MS didn't admit to their mistake and made it a "scenario" which would stick if pre order numbers were high.

Microsoft deserves no kudos for ignoring their fans in the beginning.

ABizzel13921d ago

No, Yes, No.

No, because they shouldn't have pulled what they did to begin with and we wouldn't be here discussing it now.

Yes, because they did change most of the things gamers were against, regardless of if it was for gamers, or because they feared being outsold.

No, because with each change came the loss of a feature that gamers wanted and were looking forward, and at the end of the day all this is still up to M$ so if they want to implement all these things back in when they get a decent install base they can or on a positive note they could bring the few good things back.

redwin3921d ago

All of u think that MS is not a customer friendly company but you all forget that lots of people did preorder the Xbox One, me included. Lots of people were going to buy it anyway. All my friends are getting it, we have not preordered games because we will download all the games. Us true MS players, are not happy with the shell they are going to sell us now because all the retroverted customers. Many people did not want a next gen machine, they just wanted to upgrade their hardware. And I wish MS stops listening to them.

slivery3921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

Exactly they want their money and they saw they were going to lose a great deal of it if they didn't start buckling down.

I don't believe the whole they care about listening to consumers bit at all. The consumers were there complaining about these policies long before the system was even released, they didn't care or listen then did they. They only started changing their policies when they realized holy shit.. People actually hate the system in the true sense of the word hate.

No one in their life let alone in gaming history has seen the public have such a strong distaste for any product. Microsoft knew since that hate was not fading at all, they had to actually change. It wasn't for the consumer but only to secure their profits in the future and appear to care about the consumer.

Like I said they had plenty of time to listen and see peoples concerns before the Xbox One was even announced.

If they truly cared about what the consumer thought they would have made the Xbox One what it is now right out of the gate, listening and seeing those concerns before hand. f course they didn't and did everything backwards because they simply don't care what the consumers thinks unless it starts to deal with their money.

If they knew they could have kept it the way it was without all that back lashing they would have. Plain and simple but I am glad for once people finally stood their ground and showed the company it isn't right.

Sadly people don't do that enough and I can't necessarily say we as a group of thinking individuals finally stood ground a console gaming issue is the greatest thing in the world but I guess we have to start with baby steps. Cause there are a lot more companies and people in the world screwing us over other than Microsoft but I'll give it more time for people to care more about that instead of a small issue like a gaming system.

Magicite3921d ago

Stop defending MS like You work for them.

JokesOnYou3921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

Stop trolling MS news like You work for sony.

-Anyway the only kudos micro is getting from me is for Ryse, DR3, Killer Instinct, and Forza5 because these are the games I can't wait to play first on my X1.

X1 would have been better off longterm with some of the old policies so I think its taken a small step back, but OK they had to appease more folks which I believe more and more everyday were actually many vocal fanboys that were never ever going to buy an X1 and were just jealous micro were actually taking the lead to bring us closer to DD console model which is where the industry is headed anyway. Always on, game sharing, kinect all have some unique benefits, even some that constantly hate know its true but they won't admit it, they will just follow the pack and pretend it was all bad. Oh but just wait, when sony does it then it will be great for the industry and gamers.

Good time to be a gamer, we got Gamescom then a tough long wait 'til Nov, and then all the talking won't matter.

indysurfn3921d ago

There was once this theif that got caught trying to steal a HDTV and some video games. This was no ordinary thief, once this thief stole from you, you would never own a HDTV, video game again. You could only rent it, and most likely you could never own a cell phone, or computer again. Only rent it.

Thank God the Police caught the thief red handed! So instead of praising the thief for putting down the hdtv and video games while at gun point. Lets praise the police!

It's kinda silly to say the thief addressed our concerns. Maybe the thief was 'concerned about their own existence'.

rainslacker3921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

@sitdown

I wouldn't praise a career criminal who decided to turn their life around to get back in people's good graces if they felt no remorse over their initial criminal activities. Far from it. I would hold them to their actions until they proved they that they actually knew what they did wrong, and could admit it without trying to justify it all at the same time, and again, seem remorseful about it. If said criminal was turning himself around in the interest of money...say for a reality TV show, I would still see them as the swindling criminal they are.

MS aren't criminals in my mind...at least not in regards to the X1, but if you're going to use that analogy, work it through to the end.

When MS can come out and say, "We were wrong" or a simple, "We're sorry for being condescending pricks"(paraphrasing), then maybe people will be willing to forgive and forget.

@redwin

Perhaps you can tell us what a "True MS player" is.

CuddlyREDRUM3921d ago

They could have gone with it, and nobody would have bought it.

Saying things like "every company wants to make money" only goes so far, and is a motto that sets all consumers up for getting ripped off.

If they were listening they wouldn't have it set up like that in May and at E3. I wouldn't trust them with anything at this point, especially new hardware.

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n4rc3922d ago

Ummm... What?

They don't owe anyone anything.. This is business.. Not recess at the playground

If you don't like it, you don't have to buy it.. But they don't owe anyone a certain product or an apology for offering said product

avengers19783922d ago

Just like nobody owes MS anything.

scott1823922d ago

Companies go out of business being bull headed and greedy.... No they don't owe anyone anything, but they may want to try to not come off as such in the future.

HammadTheBeast3922d ago

It's business, you put on a happy mask and take the hits, otherwise you los out on sales.

n4rc3922d ago

I'm not going to argue the ethics of it all.. Not enough bubbles for that.. Lol

But Microsoft has always done its own thing.. And alot of times, it pays off for consumers.. Sometimes things don't pan out (cough..windows me..coughcough).. Even the surface isn't doing very well.. But look at their earnings reports.. They aren't going out of business anytime soon..

Millions of people use Microsoft's services daily.. Just because they don't take to the internet to defend themselves doesn't mean they don't exist..

greenlantern28143922d ago

Incorrect just like all businesses they owe their customers everything. Since without people who pay them for their products they wouldn't have a company at all, companies need their customers support more than the customer needs them.

Sitdown3921d ago

You are wrong, a business does not owe you anything, unless they have promised you something....Now is it in the best interest of the business to do what is best for their consumers? Most likely.

CuddlyREDRUM3921d ago

"Hurray for huge corporations"

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SDS Gamerfiend3922d ago

No because they shouldn't have tried that bull in the first place!

TomShoe3922d ago (Edited 3922d ago )

@Golding Quit lurking the pending section. It's annoying to hear your fanboy self every time I open an X1 article.

cannon88003921d ago

They don't deserve any kind of "pat on the back" They're not suppose to hide anything from the consumers. And I find it extremely sad that they didn't want to address all the features that needed you to pay to use. Just to show that they already knew that we weren't gonna like it. When you know something is bad and you still do it you know there's no place to hide your face afterwards.

KarrBOMB3921d ago

@ReDeMpTiOn

I agree with you, MS does not deserve kudos for their changes. They made those changes because the pre-orders were suffering and the fact that long time consumers were abandoning their ship. Not because it was what gamers preferred. I understand that companies need to be profitable, but the changes they were going to implement was out of greed, nothing more. The extreme back lash was just an early insight of what they would face had changes not been made.

None the less, I'm glad the changes were made. Not just because I play MS games as well as PS, but because the competition is good for gamers. So either company failing would have impacts on the remaining gaming community.

Legion213921d ago

How is this suppose to happen if they don't correct their mistakes? No company is without flaws and every company is it to make money. I don't think they should be faulted for changing what everyone had complained about.

ovnipc3921d ago

REDMPTIONX Fuk off TROLL. M$ fixed everything people complain about, exept Kinect and kinect should be standard.

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DigitalRaptor3922d ago (Edited 3922d ago )

I find it kind of mind-bending that a group of people can so easily forgive a company that has been planning and implementing (at the core of their console) for many, many years all these anti-consumer measures that would have impacted your rights and the way they treat you, not for one generation, but forever.

I could understand if there was just one of these anti-consumer issues, but sadly there were multiple ones and still are some that they're clinging on to and hoping people don't want to question. So how can people trust them after the decisions that they made that they knew how it would impact the industry and consumer rights?

And Gareth, you really think it was Microsoft "listening to the consumers"? If that was the case they would have responded to the overwhelming negative chatter from rumours months and months before they decided to power on with their reveal. A reveal that in fact turned out to not only confirm said rumours, but to be more non-gaming based than about games. No, it was a desperate response to what is fiscal responsibility, not a "change of heart" and the way in which they treat their consumers.

Microsoft reversed policies to try and get back on track, but they're still the same Microsoft. They deserve kudos for any innovation that benefits a gaming console, a deep focus on gaming and things that consumers will benefit from, DEFINITELY not anti-consumer intentions and practices.

Garethvk3922d ago (Edited 3922d ago )

I have zero doubt that money like everything else in business was the main factor. But since consumers can only voice with their wallets and since the people made it loud and clear what they would and would not accept, I just found it interesting that the company who has largely ignored the consumer base finally did something about it.

It was also a typo on my part there was supposed to be a Does added prior and I have fixed it.
I am still taking a wait and see on the Xbox One but since we have been listing the issues from it from day one, I wanted to be fair and say look, the company is changing their usual tactics and regardless of the reasons, they are making changes that the fans have asked for.

ShwankyShpanky3922d ago

Seriously... if I was trying to sell steak sandwiches with a hearty horse dung spread, should I be given kudos when I acknowledge I'll sell more by removing the dung?

OC_MurphysLaw3922d ago

I don't think they deserve "kudos" for addressing the elements that many complained about. That said, I don't think people who complained about the original policies should be complaining about MS doing a 180 and fixing those very isssues they were just weeks ago bitching about.

pacosanchez883921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

no, they dont deserve kudos for being so out of touch with their customers to implement all these "features" that most people didnt want. and that they didnt change their mind when
-there was backlash in febuary at the rumor of a always online console
-they revealed the console and everyone ridiculed it
-e3, when the PS4 further cemented its lead

a week after e3, once the preorder numbers came back, THATS when they changed there mind. on always online, on indie support, on installing the disc, on kinect, everything. they changed it all when the ps4 had a lead in pre orders. that doesnt win them kudos in my book. only in their pocketbook.

i wouldve bought a XB1 some time in the future, but after seeing how MS wasnt at all confident or certain about the future and vision of their product, ive lost all confidence in them as well.

rainslacker3921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

I agree. The new policies are praise worthy I guess. No one is saying the new policies are really bad, except maybe the MS fan boys who actually wanted the old ones. I mean they should have figured all that out before the reveal, but what's done is done in that regard. Stupid move on MS part considering how much focus testing the must have done. The fact the reveal appealed to almost no one shows they had some terrible focus groups.

However, it really hasn't been that long since the reversals. Only a few weeks now and 4 major changes to the system. The wound is still fresh, and people are going to hold a grudge.

I know the internet makes things seem like everything happened a really long time ago, but it's just human nature to not trust something or someone that pissed you off completely. Take any ex-gf/bf you may have had in your life. Forgiveness takes time, and people like to vent.

I think the part that's really hanging up people from moving on is that MS hasn't really shown that they even really realize why people were pissed off. I understand the need to spin things for PR's sake, but would it kill them to just say that their vision was obviously not in the interest of the consumer, and perhaps even apologize for that? It did Sony wonders when they acknowledged how they screwed up their PS3 launch with their arrogance, and yet people still bring it up.

Basically, MS needs to give people closure on this matter. I know it may sound silly, but that's what it is. It would be better for MS, in the long run, in my opinion, if they are the ones that provide that closure. If people do it on their own, they usually end up not caring one bit, and that's not good for MS.

SkullBlade1693922d ago

No, they just did what they had to do to prevent the product from completely bombing.

Legion213921d ago

As all successful companies do.

CuddlyREDRUM3921d ago

Most successful companies wouldn't set themselves up for such criticism and out of touch PR that nearly sank the Xbox brand.

Your comment is like saying after BP dumped all the oil in the Gulf they cleaned it up... just like all successful companies do.

thrust3922d ago

I don't care, I was getting the Xbox no matter what, Xbox live makes it worth it for me.

jessupj3921d ago (Edited 3921d ago )

Well right now on my PS3 I'm enjoying dedicated servers, heaps of free games every month, and I don't have virtually every single app behind a paywall.

But even with all that, amazing as those feature are, I wouldn't be prepared to get F'ed in the ass just to have it.

So what are you enjoying so much that you ARE happily prepared to be bent over and violated?

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18811d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 6h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos20h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb3319h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC10h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 12h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies23h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear2118h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k41d 15h ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot1d 14h ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC10h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon6158619h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k414h ago(Edited 14h ago)

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k414h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody1d 14h ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 4h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage21h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast1d 14h ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19791d 13h ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 5h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn197918h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage21h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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Microsoft once tried to nab LittleBigPlanet from Sony after a few drinks

It turns out that many moons ago, Microsoft once had its eye on the Sony published LittleBigPlanet series.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Microsoft had a good idea but fumbled it again.

Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Project Spark idea was decent but they quickly gave up ..
LBP was wonderful

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

Microsoft in a nutshell. Always tried to poach Sony employees, games, 3rd party games and devices like the depth camera that was turned into Kinect but was running on PS2 before Xbox 360. Wouldn't be surprised they wanted LBP. Just like they worked behind the scenes pushing the MLB to bring Sony's baseball game to Xbox instead of making their own.
https://www.playstationlife...

They didn't spend years trying to develop their own baseball game. They wanted Sony's game.

They're scum.

Zachmo1822d ago

Microsoft didn't force MLB on Xbox. MLB gave Sony 2 options either go multiplat or risk losing the license.

Rynxie2d ago

And why do you think MLB said that? I believe Ms approached MLB.

ApocalypseShadow2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Totally ridiculous comment.

The only exclusivity Sony had was to their own creation of The Show. Microsoft could have paid the MLB for the license just like Sony did and made their own baseball game.

Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox. They're worth 3 TRILLION dollars. You think that's not enough money to make their own baseball game? Don't be delusional.

Microsoft spun it like they always do and told the media that they had to trust Sony with their hardware. After they put Sony in that position of not having a choice. Either go multiplatform or stop making one of their successful games. That's a no win scenario.

And what did Microsoft do? They didn't try to sell the game to the Xbox community. They put it on game pass to hurt Sony. Pushing the idea of why buy games that are $70 when you can play them in their cheap service for $10. It was a dirty tactic.

You fell for the Kool aid drink Microsoft served you instead of spitting it out. Hope it tasted good because you were fooled by Phil and the gang.

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Hereandthere1d 20h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

Bond revealed that MLB The Show “always came up” in conversations between Microsoft and the Major League Baseball organization. “We always said, ‘We love this game. It would be a huge opportunity to bring it to Xbox.'” she recalled. However, when Microsoft’s efforts materialized, it put the company in an awkward situation where it had to send in pre-release consoles to a rival company.

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Notellin2d ago

"Microsoft instead, groomed MLB for years in trying to poach Sony's game and bring it to Xbox."

Take a nap, conspiracies are rotting your brain.

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Hereandthere1d 20h ago

Xbox executive Sara Bond has told Axios that Microsoft spent a number of years trying to get MLB The Show onto Xbox consoles. And when it finally succeeded in breaking off PlayStation’s long-held exclusivity, the company had to “trust” Sony with pre-release Xbox Series X/S consoles.

ApocalypseShadow1d 6h ago

Lying to yourself is unbecoming.

Article link tells you all you need to know in Sarah Bond's own words.

Hereandthere1d 20h ago

They were too cheap/inept/lazy to develop their own mlb game, so they port begged for years and bribed the mlb to make the show multiplatform. Like i said many times, xbox brought nothing to the table their 24 years, ZERO.

ApocalypseShadow1d 6h ago

At least you and others get it. Note drank the Kool aid and asked for seconds thinking it was refreshing.

Most don't even know how it all played out but it's there in black and white for all to see. Microsoft brought it up for years until the MLB forced Sony's hand. It was a win win for Microsoft. Kill one reason to buy a PlayStation or kill the game by dropping it in a cheap service to kill Sony's sales numbers on PlayStation.

OtterX2d ago

"However, Healey said Media Molecule wouldn't have felt right doing that, adding it would have been "morally corrupt"."

Major kudos to Media Molecule for being an upright studio with principles.

Cockney1d 1h ago

They chose well, Sony gave them the backing to pursue their dreams with no restrictions even tho their games especially dreams have very niche appeal. Media molecule and Sony deserve respect for this in an age of risk averse publishing.

RNTody2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Great, more stories like this please. Show the last of the zombies holding the line what we've been saying for years: Microsoft is anti competition, anti industry and has no interest in making games at all.

But hey, at least there's an Xbox Games Showcase to look forward to, right?

Inverno2d ago

Well considering SONY just killed the series, LBP would've been dead by now either way. Though MM probably wouldn't exist by now either, so I'm glad they stayed with SONY, hopefully they don't get shut down any time soon or ever honestly.

Inverno2d ago

They shut down the servers, that's millions of user created levels gone. That and dead are pretty much the same, it's also been years since 3 and they cancelled HUB soooo.

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fsfsxii2d ago

They shutdown the servers because no one was playing, no one in the community cared about the user created levels so why keep them up? Wtf you guys would never succeed in running a business.

Inverno2d ago

Yea dood no one was playing so they shut off the servers. Cause people with enough common sense can't just Google why they were actually shut of, right?

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