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Microsoft Planning Gamescom Press Conference

Dev partners told of grand media briefing in August
Microsoft has notified event organisers and third party studios that it plans to host a press conference at Gamescom in August, CVG has learned.

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green3956d ago

If they show new games at Gamescon in addition to the ones already shown, i will be highly impressed. Also would like to see some new Killer Instinct characters.

from the beach3956d ago

Seems likely, Spencer was blustering on Twitter about Gamescom being a good event for Xbox One, and more recently about more exclusives to announce.

Lots of speculation about Lionhead and separately a new Crackdown :)

jimbobwahey3956d ago

Hopefully they'll announce a price drop, preferably by ditching Kinect and letting people buy the Xbox One (and use it) without requiring that stupid camera.

malokevi3956d ago

Ohh man, some more games coming out in the first year/year-and-a-half would be amazing news. I'm already psyched for whats coming.... more good games and I just might PLOTZ.

n4rc3956d ago

They aren't dropping kinect.. End of story

Get over it.. Its part of Xbox one.. Not a add on

Retroman3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

ya kno MS should have done this in march, more showing games at E3... all this is is MS gasping for last ditch effort to re-gain gamers confident.

Im not buying it neither should gamers.

MS need a HARDCORE lesson= no support with wallets.

CRAIG6673956d ago

If MS wrote you a cheque for $1000 you would still bum Sony.

Sitdown3956d ago

Great for you, now can you promise not to post in anymore Xbox one related articles since you are not buying it.

Nocando3956d ago

Go away, you aren't going to change anyone's mind. THIS is why so many people view Sony fanboys as the worst, I have never seen a MS fan go around like a goddamn missionary telling everyone what they should purchase.

Retroman3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

@ craig, no i would not accept 1,000 from MS
@ sitdown eh, u following me around son??

extermin8or3956d ago

@Nocando I don't know what sites you read but please share because there are plenty, it's almost a prerequisite to be a fanboy that you do this. Whatever side they root for, well the annoying ones-you can have a fanboy that isn't annoying and just sticks to stuff that's relevant to them I guess.

lawgone3956d ago

GT67...just curious but are you an American? Do you always bash American companies in favor of Japanese ones on Independence Day?

pixelsword3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

Ha, good point, Iawgone, but both consoles made in China, robbing both Japanese and Americans of jobs, so what' the difference in that regard?

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Manic20143956d ago

I think they may show some impressive games and may also announce additional changes hopefully to the console (NO MANDATORY KINECT!). Hoping For the Best

green3956d ago

No mandatory Kinect is okay but selling a Kinect-less sku will be a huge mistake in my opinion.

malokevi3956d ago

Kinect is an integral part of MS' gameplan... people need to stop expecting that to change.

ZodTheRipper3956d ago

^This is hoping, not expecting. I don't know anyone who's really looking forward to using Kinect. People only want the Xbone now because of a few (timed?) exclusives.

Manic20143956d ago

@Zod18
The console is really good the feature's look brilliant the only thing's turning customer's away is the Price, Kinect and The DRM 180 that happend recently. The exclusive's are going to stay exclusive except for titanfall as due two the New IP's being owned by MS and the existing IP's are being re-bought by MS. Yes you can maybe expect Titan fall to be coming to PS4 within the next 3 years.

rainslacker3956d ago

I think at the very least they should show some games using Kinect. If it's not going to be used any better next gen than it was this gen, then what's the point? So you can spend an extra $100 for something you'll rarely use except for forced functionality?

It was rather disappointing at E3 after they made a huge deal about Kinect at the reveal, to have so much focus on Smartglass and 2nd screen gaming. I was sitting there during half the game demos saying to myself, "Maybe Nintendo really did think ahead some", as they at least included a 2nd screen standard. And I will extend my first argument of spending an extra $100 towards the Wii U console for something that seems like forced/underutilized technology.

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greenlantern28143956d ago

Most likely at gamescon for ms
1 announce release date.
2 Xbox1 games running on Xbox1, and game play shown for games that have only had cg trailers like sunset overdrive
3 talk about the drm reversal to try to make it clear they are no longer doing that.
4 I believe they have 3 as of yet announced games from statements made pre e3 most likely you will see these.
5 no price drop or Kinect removal but maybe subscription plan like Xbox 360 had.
And they will talk about cloud and how much better it is for you to choose to be connected to the internet.

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Prcko3956d ago

i think microsoft said they still have some exclusives to show this year,maybe something at gamescom?

abzdine3956d ago

at the same time they still haven't showed anything Kinect related other than the may 21st TV disaster reveal.
i think some kinect games are to be expected at gamescom, Kinect sports 2 from RARE or something...

Sony also said they has exclusives that will be revealed at Gamescom, and those i'm more looking forward to cause we know nothing about what the european studios have been up to during the last 2-3 years.

CRAIG6673956d ago

I think it will be mainly kinect orientated games wise so I am not to fussed about seeing it.

They also need to clear up(which I think they will) their general messaging/policies regarding the future of the xbox brand...

DiRtY3956d ago

Kinect Sports: Rivals is already announced.

joefrost003956d ago

Actually they have they just did the smart thing and didnt make it highly noticeable
They announced at e3:
Kinect sports rivals
Zoo tycoon
Disney fantasia(also on 360)
All are heavy kinect
I dont think I will be getting any of them lol but looking at the new kinect and the improvements it at least deserves a chance

Besides all of you waiting on them to show kinect games as there exclusives at the conference keep waiting MS already said(before e3) that there 15 exclusives for the first year NONE were kinect only games and all were disc based(meaning no arcade download games)

MikeMyers3956d ago

So now that they showed new games and new ip's some people are still grasping at Kinect only games? Weird. I guess that shows right there some people were never interested in the first place which begs the question, why go out of your way and post in Xbox topics then other than to troll and be a fanboy?

Microsoft said E3 would be all about games, many thought differently and continued the theatrics on how they are no longer concerned about games. E3 was all about games. Now we have Gamescom and people are now doubting what will be shown there for the Xbox One and how it's going to be all Kinect. Interesting since this site is supposed to be for gamers, not trolls and fanboys.

deepio3956d ago

@MikeMyers - You're absolutely right. I can't believe people are still throwing that "it'll just be Kinect games" line after Microsoft showed none at all at E3. If anything they 'should' at least show some Kinect games. At least that way we'd know why the dam thing is worth the extra money.

deepio3956d ago

Btw, when I say no kinect games at E3, I mean during the press conference.

malokevi3956d ago

"They announced at e3:
Kinect sports rivals
Zoo tycoon
Disney fantasia(also on 360) "

Thats awesome. I didn't even notice.

...and not awesome BECAUSE I didn't notice, lol. It's awesome because I was hoping they would show a few Kinect games, and apparently they did!

It's nice because it draws in a younger audience.... and my girlfriend. I'm already committed to getting ZUMA.

oi, vey.

Convas3956d ago

You said the same thing about E3. You're just trolling and you know it.

Ginesis3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

Sony better show more exclusives because their launch exclusives are nothing exciting right now.

Besides their announcements about DRM and the such. Sony's E3 press conference was pretty weak. IMO

abzdine3956d ago

@Ginesis:

hey, i dont know what you're talking about when you write things without thinking.
E3 was the best place for Sony to push their vision about online and DRM, and see the result of that for yourself! Also, indie support was a very important point that they wanted to show and they did that beautifully. No DRM announcements, PS4 design, price and indie support weighs more than any game!!!! it's one of the reasons EVERYONE says SONY destroyed and bitch slapped MS at E3.

Before you say i'm a troll (i'm a Sony fan and so what?), read my posts from beginning to end, i always give arguments to my opinions. If they are different from yours that's not what's gonna make me or you a troll.

now to continue, E3 has ended and all media and people praise Sony for showing how close they were to their fanbase and that even without showing ANY games because everyone (even blind people) know how good Sony's first party studios are to make games.

That being said, Gamescom and TGS will be ALL about games. Why? because they've already announced the price for Europe and what they want is to focus about games. if there are no new exclusive games being shown then say what you want. SCEE has a countless number of talent studios.

QuickdrawMcgraw3956d ago

I feel I was burned last gen when it came to MS exclusives(or lack of).So MS can announce 1 billion exclusives if they want.I won't buy Xbox1 till I see the finished games.

gamertk4213956d ago

The only reasons the Sony conference was so well received were the price point, used games and the drm. The games were underwhelming by far, and it was a snoozefest until the above reasons were mentioned.

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NYC_Gamer3956d ago

I wonder what Harrison will announce @GC

JoySticksFTW3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

His true allegiance...

>:)

j/k. Or am I...

<.<

>.>

vikingland13956d ago

They need to do something about all the bad press they've been getting. And they need to explain some things better.

Lucreto3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

It is not a good start when it is a European convension and the XBox One will only be released in 11 of the 28 countrys.

Foxgod3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

I think you meant country's, and not counties, Europe is not a country, so we dont have states that are split in counties.

But anyway, if you want to supply the country's with the most customers with plenty of units, its wise to start in those country's first, instead of spreading them around in country's where they dont sell much yet.

Theres no point in having Xb1's lying on the shelves, while having a shortage in other country's.

Lvl_up_gamer3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

@ Foxgod

Not sure why you have so many disagrees....Anyone who disagreed with you are clearly idiots.

Of course you supple first where your product sells, then when you have enough product on the shelves penetrating your major market, then you send out to the slower weaker markets.

Even Sony said they may not have enough to supply Europe or Japan come launch simply because they want to penetrate the US market right away, which is the largest gaming market.

http://playstation-techzone...

Foxgod3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

They dont like, that i like the XB1.
So they will just disagree with anything i write.

As soon as the majority knows your stance, you become a target for disagree's.

True_Samurai3956d ago

21 of the 28 countries not 11

Lucreto3956d ago

@TrueNinja

These are the European launch countries
Austria
Belgium
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Ireland
Italy
Netherlands
Norway
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
United Kingdom

I was mistaked there are 14. There are 28 members in the EU which I based my figures. There are more in Europe than are in the EU and I left them out so my figure is a lot higher than 28.

There is 21 launch countries around the world.

extermin8or3956d ago

And those it is released in wont have the tv features its pushing like the second coming...

rainslacker3956d ago

I don't think it's a big deal to limit release to the higher selling countries. It's not even uncommon, although it does suck for people in those countries. The region locks don't help.

At a European conference though they will have to show how all those extra TV features they've been touting the past few months will work for my fellow gamers across the pond. Either that, or they may focus even heavier on games, which wouldn't be a bad thing IMO. The higher price tag overseas has to be justified, and if features available in the US are gimped simply because it's Europe, it's a little unfair to you guys. I'm sure MS will work it out though. They do business everywhere in the world, and they certainly have the means to make it work.

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Retroman3956d ago (Edited 3956d ago )

@ vikingland

Trust and believe they will

with more lies,temporary promises.

joefrost003956d ago

@viking I dont think its.nothing they can do look at what has happen:
MS showed nothing but games at e3 good right No
Sony had one of the most boring e3 conference from them in awhile showing games people already knew about
To let you know how MS fans were talking about there exclusives and new game reveals were sony fans were talking about a tech demo and a CG trailer( the order)
Then on top of everything they showed two third party games games one completely cutoff and the other skips
The only real applause came when they showed final fantasy XV(also on xbox) and when they took jabs at MS
Allof that and people say they won e3 lol
People criticizing MS using PCs for third party to run their games(something they do during development)
But with the price and the DRM and price its mostly their own fault
Even going back on the DRM they got bad press for that
Let's me know whatever MS do wont be good enough

vikingland13956d ago

@joefrost00
So true, MS has only one more issue to contend with from what I've seen. Most people hate that you can't disconnect the Kinect. Even though MS has said it can be turned off people still want to be able to disconnect it. If it can be turned off it should be able to be disconnected also. It doesn't bother me but it does bother many other people.

n4rc3956d ago

Kinect has to be connected so people don't try and sell them..

Their next 7-8 years of development are going to be based around the fact that everyone has it..

Once people stop looking at it as a add on peripheral that you can take or leave and realize its part of the console.. Maybe then the stupidity will stop

extermin8or3956d ago

@n4rc well its not stupidty really, people are saying they like the console but hate the kinect requirement-if they do what you suggest they' just be saying they hate the console?

Back on topic Sony didn't show many games but in their defence they did already sow 4/5 games at their reveal so MS haven't shown that many exclusive games more than them, have to remember that they showed none at their reveal if you want to compare on that point. The 3rd party games they showed have FREE exclusive content after several YEARS of MS showing off COD due to PAID TIMED exclusive DLC it seems abit rich to complain about that. MS using PC's WITH DIFFERENT SPECS AND TOTALLY DIFFERENT MORE POWERFUL GPU is an issue and if you seriously try and say it isn't then you're a fool. DRM was the right thing to address I personally think Sony's confrence 5 mins with the Sony pictures guy rambling would've been better spent on a new PS4 exclusive, and that the walking dead 400 days bit should've been cut down for another vita exclusive to be tossed in there, along with the AC4 section totally cut. Anyway back on topic I'll be interested to see what they show-first time they've bothered showing up in years, I'm going to give sony credit for having done a gamescom show every year for the last however many years instead of just when they have new hardware to push-however they better show some new ps4 games otherwise the gaming media will crucify them in relation to that aspect anyway I suspect.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest3d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN3d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan2d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor2d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic2d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv722d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts2d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares3d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv723d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka2d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion3d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer3d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow12d ago (Edited 2d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer2d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar3d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast3d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning773d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole2d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning773d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning772d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast2d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning772d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast2d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv723d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes3d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv728d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning777d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga7d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv726d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19926d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21837d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan7d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit6d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus237d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv727d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier6d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan6d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1017d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos7d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-7d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac7d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1017d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic7d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead7d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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