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The New Xbox Boss Is... Steve Ballmer?

Former Xbox boss and incoming CEO of Zynga Don Mattrick will not be replaced immediately at Microsoft, according to a memo issued to Microsoft employees from company CEO Steve Ballmer.

allformats3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

Something's terribly wrong at Microsoft's Entertainment (Xbox) division. Terribly.

"most importantly, we expanded Xbox to go beyond great gaming to deliver all the entertainment people want — sports, music, movies, live television and much more."

Wow, so Ballmer is now boss and the most important thing about Xbox One to him is sports, music, movies and live television.

Wow. Speechless.

Prcko3965d ago

critical moments for xbox,and this happens...
crazy

dedicatedtogamers3965d ago

In all fairness, Ballmer is the TEMPORARY boss.

But yeah, read the following quote from Ballmer:

"I’m particularly excited about how Xbox pushes forward our devices and services transformation by bringing together the best of Microsoft. The consoles are incredible all-in-one devices with built-in services that consumers love, including Bing, Xbox Live, Internet Explorer, SkyDrive and Skype. And, just as important, Xbox Games, Xbox Video, Xbox Music and SmartGlass light up Windows PCs, tablets and phones."

Does it trouble anyone else that he mentiones game-related aspects of Xbox (Xbox Live and Xbox Games) only twice in that entire paragraph?

MikeMyers3965d ago

"Does it trouble anyone else that he mentiones game-related aspects of Xbox (Xbox Live and Xbox Games) only twice in that entire paragraph?"

Sure if that is your focus and want to keep the theatrics going on how bad the Xbox brand is. Not sure why that would concern anyone who already said repeatedly they aren't going to support the Xbox One anyways. For the rest of us it means the Xbox One will do more than just games but games will still be it's primary selling feature. Microsoft has more games in development right now than at any time in the history of the Xbox. So no, it doesn't worry me. Sorry to disappoint you.

TheHierarchy3965d ago

It is nice to hear the position is now open, now that mattrick is moving out. but all Managers take the same classes.

Even if a chick was to take Mattrick's place once any hardware goes gold all they can do is defend it. That's marketing and that's what they're being payed to do.

SilentNegotiator3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

So ultimately, Xbox has the same type of leadership ideology.

Great.

jmc88883965d ago

Ballmer isn't the temporary boss.

He's the PERMANENT boss who is currently TEMPORARILY taking on the role of someone who would be beneath him.

It's like manager of a fast food chain who helps out the line when it's busy or short staffed.

Except he's more concerned with having frosty paint of Ronald McDonald on the windows done correctly then anything else....like the food.

In the end the guy who is hired, will still report to him.

So for all the people saying...no the new guy after ballmer will have a different focus...

Sure...and risk his new job by going against Ballmer?

The rot is at the top. Gates and Ballmer are morons.

TekoIie3965d ago

@Dedicatedtogamers

"Does it trouble anyone else that he mentiones game-related aspects of Xbox (Xbox Live and Xbox Games) only twice in that entire paragraph?"

No... Which is why you framed it as a question. Your trying to create fake controversy.

TheHierarchy3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

@ jmc8888

"The rot is at the top. Gates and Ballmer are morons."

they just think differently. Ultimately when any hardware ships all managers are supposed to defend and market. so even if all of the managers from all of the consoles were to trade places their goals would not be any different.

Edit- In microsoft's case this doesn't mean that change still can't be made. it just takes the higher up in the chain of command to push things forward.

MarkusMcNugen3965d ago

@jmc8888

Bill Gates is not at the top... hes a non-executive chair. He doesnt oversee any day to day activities. In fact, a non-executive chairs duties are typically chairing the meetings of the board, organizing and coordinating the board's activities, such as by setting its annual agenda, and reviewing and evaluating the performance of the CEO and the other board members.

I would hardly say he is responsible for much of what happens in the Xbox division.

Ritsujun3965d ago

The perfect villianface.

fr0sty3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

Here we go... Next press conference:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Ju3965d ago

That was MS strategy when they started the whole XBox thing. Using games as a Trojan horse to get the "endpoint" into living rooms so they can spam homes with their services. Is anybody really surprised?

NukaCola3965d ago

MS's choice of turning the Xbox brand into the swiss army knife of entertainment is fine and well excepted.'

The issue is they entered the gaming market, not the apple TV market, so by using money for timed exclusives and fighting & belittling the competition, they have done nothing but try and destroy the gaming industry in their plot to TAKE OVER THE LIVING ROOM. At the end of the day and after all MS has done, it's clear they don't give a rat's ass above video games. It was just a way in so they can monopolize the television, push ads to the consumers and produce revenue for their stock holders.

If MS came in last year and not last gen, they would not even of had games on their list of capabilities. They would of gone full force against apple and google for what they really want. The television. People defend Xbox to the death but look at the bigger picture. MS is a cancer.

mewhy323965d ago

Wow. Micro$oft is reeping what it sowed. They made their bed now let them lie in it.

dmeador3965d ago

I'm sure glad all the people who are claiming doomsday only use their cell phone to make calls, and their computers to calculate artillery strikes.

But you guys are right, there is no way the X1 will have more than 2 games a year.... oh wait, they killed the PS4 in their exclusive games presentation at E3.

finbars753965d ago

You know what drives me crazy about the whole Don mattricks PR nightmare is the fact that if he didnt say anything about the xboxone information then guess what all you xbox fanboys would be in for a rude awakening come launch time.Think about it he really just did you guys a favor even if it was bad on his part.I gurantee that the xboxone would still have drm in it,you would have to have internet connection to play sp games ect.You honestly thing they would have dropped all those things from the xboxone if nothing was said.be thankful this happened because im sure guys like Steve Ballmer wouldnt had said anything and this discussion wouldnt be taken place and there would be an outrage down the road which would be a little to late for changes that close to launch.MS are showing gamers there true colors now and im sure something will take place before release that will be frowned upon by the time xboxone is available.

Major_Glitch3965d ago

@dmeador Lol. You mean the presentation where they showed off all their games on high-end pcs? Or was it the part where they showed they had fewer true exclusives than the PS4?

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dark-hollow3965d ago

GOD FORBID THEM to make the Xbox more than pure gaming device. Especially when we hear the same terms of "expanding beyond gaming" from Sony as well.

TongkatAli3965d ago

All you need is dvd or bluray to make your game console a "entertainment device".

EditorAtGNG3965d ago

Indeed. People hate on Balmer for being the asshole he is (you know, the corporate kind of asshole) but MS is doing great because of his corporate way of running things (MS is actually gaining profit in all divisions except Xbox).

So, this might be a different kind of thing but who knows... things haven't been exactly great thus far so...

Nodoze3965d ago

Yeah cause we all know that Sony has openly stated that there goal is to 'OWN the living room'. We all know Sony has been working to create a trojan horse to get into our living rooms to control us. They created a glorified TV guide and HDMI pass through on the PS4 to allow for TV viewing with voice commands. They also created a camera system that can detect emotion, heart rate, and whether or not you are paying attention to the commercials.

Oh wait that was all Microsoft. Sony has been focused on delivering great gaming experiences, and in addition allowing some media functionality.

Stop defending Microsoft.

dark-hollow3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

@NoDoze
"Trojan horse" "control us"

Microsoft are literary the third Reich!

kenshiro1003965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

When Sony was doing this, 360 fans were laughing at the PS3. Now Microsoft is doing it, it's completely okay. I remembered the whole 'PS3 has no games' crap that was spewed around on other sites and probably this site too. Now Microsoft does the same thing, it's A-Okay!

dedicatedtogamers3965d ago

Like shadowgeist said, it's a bit disingenuous for Xbox fans to defend this shift in direction when they were mocking PS3 owners just a few years ago for the same thing.

"Blu Ray player? I bought my console for games, not movies"

"PS3 has no games!"

"At least I have the OPTION for HD-DVD and I'm not forced to buy an overpriced Blu Ray player"

jmc88883965d ago

There's a thing called opportunity cost.

Think of it like a time management game. You can rest, or work out, or play, or whatever.

But you can't do it all.

You say 'god forbid them'...why are you covering for them? You think they are adding anything?

What does Xbox add to my cable that I don't have already?
What part of xbox is needed for streaming movies? (hint: netflix didn't start on consoles...nor is it needed...not even to view them on a TV since PC's hook up to TV's as well as monitors)

Why should Microsoft divide their focus on things they add no value on?

That's what they are doing. At the expense of the core product.

Even so much as to FORCE the NSA spying device known as Kinect 2 to be connected. (which means if your kinect goes bad, your console is needlessly useless)

At least with the 360 when the Kinect went out, people could simply unplug it. Not with this one, and no you don't believe a company that is required to lie to you about its spying to tell you truthfully about it not spying.

Sony and Microsoft did not treat the 'beyond gaming' aspect equally. Not even close. Like 56-0 football close, or for futbol 10-0 victory.

So again, with limited resources and time, why is Microsoft trying to add all this unnecessary, no benefit gimmicks to things that no one wants?

MarkusMcNugen3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

@jmc8888
"What does Xbox add to my cable that I don't have already?"

Well, if you love NFL football and fantasy football it does add functionality cable boxes arent capable of at the moment. Same goes for being able to Skype while watching the boob tube. Maybe that means nothing to you, but to some people Im sure its a bonus.

"What part of xbox is needed for streaming movies? (hint: netflix didn't start on consoles...nor is it needed...not even to view them on a TV since PC's hook up to TV's as well as monitors)"

With this rational the PS4 shouldnt have a netflix app because PCs can stream netflix. Your are just fishing for things to hate about when you say stupid things like that. Guess what? PCs have been playing games longer than any console, so by the same rational theres no need for consoles to play games... just nonsensical.

"Why should Microsoft divide their focus on things they add no value on?

That's what they are doing. At the expense of the core product. "

You mean services for end users? Same thing I said above applies to these statements.

"Even so much as to FORCE the NSA spying device known as Kinect 2 to be connected. (which means if your kinect goes bad, your console is needlessly useless)"

Conspiracy theory much? NSA spying device? You cant be serious. Guess what, most smartphones, tablets, and laptops today have a camera on them. If your so worried about being spied on through a camera by the NSA I guess you shouldnt own any of these devices with cameras...

"At least with the 360 when the Kinect went out, people could simply unplug it. Not with this one, and no you don't believe a company that is required to lie to you about its spying to tell you truthfully about it not spying."

You really just want to believe companies spy on you all the time just because dont you...

"So again, with limited resources and time, why is Microsoft trying to add all this unnecessary, no benefit gimmicks to things that no one wants?"

Correction. Services that you dont want. You dont speak for everybody, and I am looking forward to a lot of these services. As much as I am looking forward to owning a PS4 as well.

Knushwood Butt3965d ago

Jeez, who thought it was a good idea to give you your bubbles back?

joeorc3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

Ever since the entire Microsoft xbox platform founders like Ed, Robbie, and the rest of them over there all left, i have a very sour outlook on Microsoft's exec's doing the right thing by their xbox platform consumer's.

The people running it now are looking at less and less for the consumer and the bottom line is to protect Microsoft's monopoly on Their OS market, d@mn every thing else, why else would you have Three Freaking Operating systems on a Game console? its about their OS gate toll position they do not want to loose over to Linux and Apple and Google etc.

This is no longer really about the games console market, its about keeping Microsoft's Windows reliancency from the Consumer the A#1 priority d@mn every thing else. A game console is about Game's, so why do you need Three OS's? you don't that is because its less about XBOX MORE ABOUT windows!

Remember, when Game's for windows came out and now its gone, PC gamers did not want to be tied to xboxlive, So Microsoft is trying it another way, making xbox live come to the PC gamer again, they want that control , but gamer's said loud and clear ...NO!

this would not have happened if the founders would have still been in charge of the xbox project!

Apple and Google has done the real Damage, the fact of the matter is the OS front is where Microsoft's real cash cow is, without being the Main OS for every day computing, that is going to be a problem when the main OS is every thing but a Microsoft OS for general mass adoption computing.

That is what the main problem is. without a toll position From an OS level Microsoft's Ability to dictate what OS is the main OS that Games are Made for, is the larger problem for microsoft when Valve is now putting investment into Linux, and Apple's OS That right there is a big problem for Microsoft, because during the Wintel Dominance Windows + intel CPU chips, Most games were being made only for windows powered PC's , now with Mac and linux Getting a fair shake its no longer just Microsoft's OS as a main OS for games development priority. add in iOS and Android, and Microsofts market share for The Main OS that games are made for is now shrinking very rapidly.

that's Microsofts main concern, its not about the Xbox as a platform anymore its about keeping Microsoft's OS as the main general consumer OS for all things computing in the consumer electronics. Its not about the game console anymore. For Microsoft. its always about the OS! and being the #1 OS as that leads to be the #1 OS games are made for. Thats Microsofts main goal!

No Way3965d ago

What? Microsoft has games. Where have you been?
Sony really didn't have games at the beginning of the console life..
That is why people said it; cause it was a negative for a great system.

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pixelsword3965d ago

Who jumps ship on the wake of the console's launch?

dark-hollow3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

All of the knee jerk reactions here are ridiculous. The next gen isn't there and yet people call the Xbox a sinking ship.

Where are those same people when Sony was bleeding millions on the ps3 launch? Its too early to make a judgement.

MysticStrummer3965d ago

@dark-hollow - The difference is Sony planned to be taking a loss when they launched PS3.

MS wasn't planning on the reaction One got and I can (almost) guarantee you that Mattrick was allowed to leave instead of being fired.

dark-hollow3965d ago

@Mysticsummer

And the other thing the next gen hasn't even started! We don't know how well the xbone gonna fair, and let's not pretend that MS can't afford to loses on the first years if it didn't Go well.

MysticStrummer3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

Of course next-gen hasn't started (though Nintendo fans would argue that), and I didn't say anything about MS not being able to afford taking a loss on One.

I'm just comparing this management change with what you said about Sony losing money on PS3. It's a very different situation. Mattrick was most likely shown the door because of the One's reception and how he handled it. MS did him a favor by letting him "quit".

BABY-JEDI3965d ago

I think this guy is an ideal representative of the XBone, because that's where MS want to market the device. The XBone is not purely a gaming device. It's aimed at (ideally) bigger markets. I would rather have a gaming console. But MS would rather have money from TV, apps, sports ect revenue. But, that's what they want. Time for gamers to tell them what they want!

Ray1863965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

"Who jumps ship on the wake of the console's launch?"

Someone who is trying to distance themselves from the incoming train wreck.

pixelsword3965d ago

@ dark:

Who said it was sinking? Not me. You reveal your own thoughts, not mine.

Tyre3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

@MarkusMcNugen I'm speechless...Where have u been the last couple weeks? I've got news for ya kid...leaks/scandals heard about it? It is all out in the open....PRISM Program? Sounds familiar? Microsoft was the 1st one in, that garantees that they are handing over all their data to the NSA on regular basis. You're living in the past...get with the times. How do you still come up with the conspiracy argument? I'm amazed...i guess old habits are hard to get rid of. You can't teach an old dog news tricks, like the realisation that there IS a conspiracy in spying on citizens. Never in the history of mankind have seen so many facts out in the open and still you come up with the ignorance....i can't believe how people keep their eyes shut, Wake up and smell the ashes.

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GamingAngelGabriel3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

As a business move, it's absolutely brilliant to expand the device.
Look, PlayStation is already establishing itself as a pure, core gamer's dream, right? If you can't attract the same demographic, why not attract not only gamers, but also those who want access to other forms of entertainment?

ThanatosDMC3965d ago

PS3 all ready does that... PS4 will continue the trend. Remember the slogan "It only does everything"?

brave27heart3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

What should be concerning for Xbox fans is that MS has had a real rough ride lately, their reputation has taken a hit and part of that was their poor launch conference where games were hardly mentioned. There is a real fear that games will be a secondary focus for them behind tv integration, so what they should be doing is focusing on getting that gaming message across to people.

The fact they're still touting entertainment over games shows me they havent really learned from their mistakes.

kenshiro1003965d ago

Mind is completely blown, lol.

dlocsta3965d ago

@allformats
The most important thing is that America re-invest in it's education system. You completely changed the context of the sentence. He said, "most importantly, we epeanded Xbox beyond great gaming..." and then he adds, "to deliver all the entertainment people want..." Ballmer is a pretty bad pick to head MS I will give you that and even worse if he has to take charge of Xbox but don't put words in his mouth by changing the context of the words that come out of his mouth. Believe me he will make a stupid enough statement soon enough. Don't rush him.

horndog3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

@allformats

You must be the leader of the tards. You got the quote and you still can't make sense of it. I'll give it a shot.

"most importatnly, WE EXPANDED XBOX TO GO BEYOND GREAT GAMING to deliver all the entertainment people want"

Besides great gaming it will also be able to provide sports, movies etc. or in other words act like a cable box. No where does it say that the extras besides gaming are the priorities. Personally I like MORE OPTIONS on my consoles. I think its great.

Retroman3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

if Homer simpson (BALLMER) at the helm of XBONER MS gaming division really in trouble now.

Do'h

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asmith23063965d ago

The direction they are taking with Xbox reeks of PC under the TV in the living room syndrome. All the things he says are basically what a PC can do where the focus is not solely on gaming.

andibandit3964d ago

Yes a pc can do all these things, but ordinary people want a pc without the hassle of maintaning a pc

Wizziokid3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

I'm not sure they will ever learn...

Death3965d ago

Probably waiting for all the bs to blow through before someone is announced. Mr. Ballmer is in charge of Microsoft and has very little input in the Xbox brand. There are quite a few people that are responsible for what happens day to day. Steve doesn't really look like a gamer to me. Chances are sports, music, movies and live television are probably things he is more interested in. In the end that means nothing as far as Xbox goes. Should we really worry that the Xbox can do all of these things? The PS3 with its media sharing and blu-ray player didn't seem to distract from the games much. Why is this a controvercy?

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3965d ago

dont worry it will play games maybe.

vallencer3965d ago

I feel like you didn't read his comment. He never said the most important thing was sports, music, and movies all he said was "most importantly, we expanded xbox to go BEYOND". Nothing in that comment states that he thinks the most important thing are the things previously mentioned. In all fairness it doesn't surprise me that microsoft wants to do that it hasn't been a secret since like 09 of the xbox 360 being out. If they can do all that AND make great games then that works for me.

RedHawkX3965d ago

i dont get why a few gamers are supporting xbox one at this point. come to the ps4 and give sony the respect and love they deserve then when ms fixes it sh*t you can go back if you dont like the playstation. i dont see why some are trying to fight sony right now when sony is doing everything right. when you do everything right you deserve to get rewarded. now i know a lot of you get pissed at work when you are the best and doing everything right but your boss has favorites and picks his friends or something like that instead of you. so lets not be hypocrits and give our love to sony they are doing the right thing by us its only fair and it will set a precendent that those who do good by the people will always prevail.

Lykon3965d ago

Another bloated old bread head in a suit then

JsonHenry3965d ago

From a company standpoint that wants to push its many other services into the lives of customers I understand them wanting to have a games console that does much more than just play games. But you won't sell a GAMES CONSOLE by pushing it as a MEDIA HUB.

You want an example of how to get your future product to catch on? Look at the PS3 and Blu-Ray. It was sold as GAMES system that also played Blu-Ray discs. Guess which format one that war? Yeah. Blu-ray. The one that was sold in a system marketed almost solely as a games console.

You want those others features in the Xbox1, MS? Great! But give us a reason to buy the thing based on what it is- PLAYING VIDEO GAMES!!

ATi_Elite3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

MS whole thing with the Xbox was to gain control over the living room and so far they have done a great job and now that the Xbone will play games and be like a cable box I see MS has reached it's Goal.

I keep having to tell you CONSOLERS this isn't about MS vs. Sony (Big picture wise) but more about MS vs. Apple and it's web TV.

Long term business wise: No one gives a CRAP about Sony and it's handful of Exclusives ESPECIALLY when the console market is driven by MULTIPLATS.

I'm excited to see the Move Engines along with Cloud support take Gaming to a new level.

.....and Yes the PS4 is a beast and simple to program for so Sony Devs better bring the HEAT cause right now Titanfall is the best thing coming to consoles and the PS4 will miss out on it.

Seriously get a grip fanboys cause Sony now charges a FEE for online MP just like MS (I told you slugs this was gonna happen) and SOny will try hard to copy MS by offering Entertainment other than games like music/movies but MS has a slight advantage by getting cable companies onboard.

djfullshred3964d ago (Edited 3964d ago )

lol on the entertainment quote above. It seems pretty dumb to me turning a game console into an entertainment box for everyone, but then still calling it Xbox. When people see the name Xbox, that means game console to them. Nobody who doesn't play games is going to buy something called Xbox. And on the other side of this double edge sword, you have many gamers turned off by adding more features for more cost that are nmot the reason they normally buy this type of device. I am sure MS has a grand plan going on, but not so sure that plan aligns to what consumers really want to buy. And before saying gamers don't want all the other stuff, I know they do...but we already have this stuff. It isn't new. Baasic Blu Ray players have all the streaming apps. on devices, PCs & TVs do too. There is even cheapo devices like Roku...so TV entertainment is not a compelling feature to sell game players IMHO.

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majiebeast3965d ago

"The consoles are incredible all-in-one devices with built-in services that consumers love, including Bing, Xbox Live, Internet Explorer, SkyDrive and Skype. And, just as important, Xbox Games, Xbox Video, Xbox Music and SmartGlass light up Windows PCs, tablets and phones."

Notice how games dont even come first this is only the beginning of the entertainment box. Yusuf Medhi is gonna take over Don's position be prepared for more tv and sports.

JBSleek3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

I see that being a plus not a minus actually. Talking about it doing more than gaming that is.

jmc88883965d ago

Not really, you're forgetting everything they are adding, is already being delivered to you by someone else, and probably better.

You mean I can have my fantasy stats from NFL.com up on the screen....yeah...

Except I can watch the game and check on my stats on my PC or smartphone, and I don't need to use NFL.COM. Because if I use yahoo or ESPN or some other fantasy football site, that 'feature' is pretty much useless.

My cable box works fine as a cable box. I don't need Xbox One for that.

Wow you mean I can use my mouth instead of grabbing my remote? Big whoop.

Netflix? First on PC...and thus first on an HDTV. I also don't have to pay for xbox live to access it. Later copied by everyone else.

Hell what does the Xbox One do on this front that is better than the 360?

Microsoft has been wasting time, and oh look, they're not rushing to make the actual console.

So you'll be able to change channels with your voice but now M$ risks having major hardware problems at launch...so many might not be able to use that feature...since they rushed and have a great shot at another RRoD fiasco.

famoussasjohn3965d ago

Would it matter if they mentioned it first? We got a pretty big idea on what kind of games and the ability it has at E3. Think of the additional stuff that isn't gaming as bonus stuff if you will.

Narutone663965d ago

So, games is not their primary focus. Then we can stop comparing it to PS4 now. What XB1 is doing, I already saw in a Samsung Smart TV, including the Kinect features. Here's an ad from Samsung: https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Funny thing though, it's Usher in the ad. MS once hired Usher too in their E3.

badkolo3965d ago

well then you didnt watch e3 cause ms killed it with games , they had the better show games wise so not sure what your talking aboutr

DigitalRaptor3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

It is too early to tell definitively, but this direction and enthusiasm for making money via "broad entertainment" on a gaming console hints at the XBone as a second rate gaming and a jack of all trades media device... you should be able to guess the rest.

How the Xbox loyal can even be pitching this to themselves as a good thing, I don't know. We hear "they're offering you more, how is that a bad thing?". I know when the fundamental part of a gaming console is being diluted and being distracted from by a company with a vision of making money through broader means.

When my smart TV can do all of this, when my laptop and phone and any web browser can do it. You know that this stuff is instantly accessible elsewhere and for free, so why do you all care about a company making more money by adding these redundancies at the expense of a deep gaming industry focus and the reason you buy a gaming console?

Gekko363965d ago

Are you fucking kidding me!, Sony and Microsoft want to make money, they don't like you, you're just some gobshite who pays for what they are selling.

Marketed like a big shiny toy. Both play games and do other stuff as well. Sony say PS4 is about the gamers and Microsoft says it's about gamers as well as the other TV and pushing games.

Sony and Microsoft aren't nice guys, if they could make a fortune in human trafficking they would.

Corporations are as bad as politicians, they are liars for a living!.

No you're looking at Microsoft like they came in your house on Christmas morning and pissed on your kids. Get some perspective!!

At least with Steve Balmer handling things for now, we should end up with a better marketing message for the masses.

Death3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

Safe to say you passed on the PS3 since it had a Bluray player then Raptor? It did nothing for gaming, added to the price and caused the system to launch late. Clearly having an additional feature is bad. I'm with you brother, I have a cell phone for talking, pager for whatever those things do/did, an mp3 player for music, carry a pad of paper, pen and calender where ever I go and a laptop for skype and texting. I also carry around a PSP and/or Gameboy for gaming on the go. Of course the camera is seperate since combining the two is stupid. Much easier to do all this then take away from my phones ability to call people.

Less is more and none of us should rest until Microsoft takes away all these useless added features that we can do seperate and less convenient.

Idiot.

DigitalRaptor3964d ago (Edited 3964d ago )

@ Gekko

Sadly, I'm not kidding you. I don't expect Sony be my friend, but I respect a company who knows how to treat consumers fairly and and not treat them as fools.

"you're looking at Microsoft like they came in your house on Christmas morning and pissed on your kids. Get some perspective!!"

I'm the one that needs perspective?? Microsoft's words, actions and attempts in recent memory has opened everyone's eyes, clearly except their most loyal. Why support a company that runs on corporate greed and puts the bottom line before the ethics of serving the consumer? Microsoft had it the wrong way around with their policies, and still have it wrong. So yeah, they almost did "piss on my kids" i.e. the industry, and the impact of that would've been irreversible, had people not opened their eyes and stood against a greedy and manipulative corporation.

@ Death

No, I didn't pass on PS3 because it had Blu-ray for the same reason I didn't pass on PS2 because it had DVD. It's a format. I waited for the price to go down, because I knew it would.

If it did nothing for gaming, then why do Microsoft now use Blu-ray and why do Nintendo have their own proprietary form of Blu-ray discs? The benefits of Blu-ray for games on consoles have become more and more apparent as time has gone on and what I just said proves it.

And I've heard that tired, boring excuse about "carrying many devices". It's just not comparable at all. THINK. A phone's main function, which is communication, will never be diluted by additional features. There is no danger of the PRIMARY focus of a phone of being lost, as it will always have the same focus on communication.

No matter how you want to defend them, Microsoft's direction and diluted focus for a gaming console's PRIMARY function is a massive distraction and if they had it their way, would be a lesser focus at the expense of what makes them more money. Listen to what Steve Ballmer wants to turn Xbox into and you can see that THAT does nothing for gaming.

This is where Steve Ballmer would like to take Xbox, as this nasty display is where the company is headed: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Sony/Valve etc, these companies give you more, but they do it the right way. A company that charges to use free services doesn't deserve anyone's respect. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Forced ads are just another addition to this inexcusably terrible direction that we all saw coming. Just watch this to see why people have issue with Microsoft. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

These issues are not just in "the minds of Sony fanboys", as much as you'd like to believe otherwise.

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Prcko3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

isn't Steve Ballmer turned record profits while he was in charge of Microsoft?

dedicatedtogamers3965d ago

He is still in charge of Microsoft (the CEO) and no, I think he's actually lost Microsoft money, though it may not necessarily be his fault.

AFAIK, Microsoft's value prior to Ballmer was somewhere around $550 billion and now it's down below $300 billion.

Loki863965d ago

Where do you get your facts, obviously not from anywhere reliable. MS has increased it's total revenue every year except the transitional year when Ballmer took over.

http://www.statista.com/sta...

MikeMyers3965d ago

Not sure where he gets his facts. Perhaps The Official Playstation Magazine or The National Enquirer. A few weeks ago he said the Xbox One would not support used games even though it did before the DRM was dropped. Does anyone know why he still insist in frequenting Xbox One topics?

The original Xbox lost Microsoft quite a bit of money, the Xbox 360 made money.

http://www.microsoft.com/en...

2009 is the only year Microsoft didn't not have any growth since 2003 (which is how far that dates back).

Q3 for 2013,

http://www.theverge.com/201...

"Revenues for its business division grew 5 percent to $6.1 billion, while the entertainment and devices division grew 33 percent to $2.2 billion (year-over-year, after adjustments). Xbox Live in particular had a nice quarter — the service now has 46 million users, up 18 percent from one year ago."

PirateThom3965d ago (Edited 3965d ago )

The thing you need to remember with Microsoft is that their investors really want them out of gaming. Ballmer, like him or hate him, is the one keeping the brand in place and fighting against the share holders on it.

The PR disaster the XBone has been won't sit well with the shareholders either and Ballmer accepting a more direct approach may be their appeasement so another disaster falls on Ballmer's head directly and they can get rid of him and the biggest defender of the XBox Microsoft has at high levels or leave him with no choice but to drop the brand should it go to hell.

EXVirtual3965d ago

True. But from reading that article, it seems that Ballmer is trying to please the investors by making it in all in one device. Next year at E3, it'll all be about system updates for TV and music.

I like yor points. I really don't think the bad PR is gonna stop and coincidentally, the highest guy in the xbox division leaving the company during this disaster doesn't look good on Microsoft. The disaster is probably get worse, especially if they put back in the DRM when they sell enough units. Then they'll either get rid of this guy, then get rid of the Xbox division or, he gives up on the Xbox and they investors shut it down with his approval.

Death3965d ago

Why would you even think that is a possibility? Xbox makes Microsoft money. The userbase expanded this gen from 25 million to 80 million. You think this is a warning sign of things to come?

Sony is much closer to pulling the plug on the console business than Microsoft and I still don't see that happening either.

PirateThom3964d ago (Edited 3964d ago )

You may not see it happening but the shareholders and board at Microsoft have wanted the brand sold or spun off for years because, to be frank, the Xbox brand still hasn't made a profit. Yearly, yes. Overall? Never and it likely never will. The brand has made 0 profit. It is down almost $3bn over the past 10 years with profits down last year from 2011.

This isn't some sort of dream or speculation based on a poor reveal. This is shareholders wanting to make money off a brand which is, overall, in negatives. Sony has lost way more on the PS3 but the PS brand has been profitable but it's wholly irrelevant to bring up.

Death3964d ago (Edited 3964d ago )

Thom,

Where do you get these numbers from? Companies do not carry losses year after year. I suppose you can take the net losses and profits from each year to see where they stand if you want to track it that way, but that isn't how investing works. Each fiscal year is new and profits are either paid as dividends or losses are paid by the companies reserves. If the company doesn't have reserves, loans are taken out and calculated into the companies budget. Shareholders really don't give a damn how a company makes money, they just want their investments to pay dividends. Not sure which shareholders are demanding Microsoft off the EDD. If I were a shareholder I would be happy the division is contributing to my stocks value and making me money. Sony on the other hand lost money as a company 4 years in a row and sold off assets to prevent a 5th. The stock was lowered to junk status which doesn't typically sit well with investors. I could see some investors wanting non-profitable divisions axed, but even then it's probably a bad idea without an alternate plan of generating revenue.

http://www.joystiq.com/2012...

http://www.engadget.com/201...

http://www.techradar.com/us...

http://gamer.blorge.com/201...

I've seen the 2.8 billion lost over the life of the Xbox brand. I've also seen where the Playstation brand has lost 5 billion. It's still not counted like that so both numbers are irrelevant.

JBSleek3965d ago

It is also likely because Microsoft is doing a major reconstructing of executives and their business models so with this news they likely will have to push that back a bit to find someone to replace him.

The rumors were he was going to be one of the big three executives to get more power as MSFT turned Xbox into more of a brand and service.

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Game Studio Closures, Entertainment News, Disney, And More Skewedcast

The full Skewedcast crew back for this episode and Gareth, Justin, Michael, and JoeyZ at Skewed and Reviewed break down the latest entertainment news qith a focus at 40:00 on the Microsoft Studio Closures and how it impacts the game community and what can be done to help offset this negative trend.

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What is the point of Xbox?

Xbox has repeated the same terrible mistakes for over a decade. The reason is simple: its priorities are back-to-front.

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purple10119h ago

ohhh man, the press really did not like those last closures, their having a field day bashing xbox,

anyway, ive got to nip off to the shops now, i've run out of microwave popcorn.

Jingsing3h ago

Apparently the last 10 years wasn't enough to get the gaming press to notice but as soon as they touch Bethesda it is full on nuclear war. A lot of people in the gaming press seem to have this irrational hard on for Fallout and Skyrim despite the fact they are low quality poor buggy games.
I've grown tiresome of the unbalanced fandom in the gaming press for fantasy games and their ability to just forgive crap so long as it's a fantasy game RPG game all quality concerns are not an issue for them,

anast3h ago

Popcorn has been good lately.

PapaBop49m ago

Clearly this is just a big conspiracy orchestrated by the popcorn industry, Microsoft are just their puppets, every time they open their mouths, I'm forced to stock up on popcorn.

XiNatsuDragnel18h ago

Xbox is getting rightfully roasted here

Einhander197217h ago

The only point to xbox is and always has been to take market share and money from PlayStation and Nintendo, but mostly PlayStation. It's been the goal since sweaty Steve Balmer said it himself.

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ApocalypseShadow11h ago

Yup. To put Sony out of business because they thought they were a threat to their Windows business.

isarai15h ago

I mean the motto "xbox, the most optional console ever made" was peaked years ago, people are just now taking a step back from deepthroating Phil to see what we've all been seeing for a long time now.

P_Bomb14h ago

I’ve still got friends that main on XB. For their sake, I hope it sticks around. They’ve put everything into that ecosystem. It’s all or nothing.

I wonder if we’ll ever get back the level of competition seen during the 360/PS3 era?

NotoriousWhiz4h ago

Seems like Daddy Microsoft is trying to shut it down. Or at least bring costs under control. On the bright side, it seems likely that acquisitions are going to stop.

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Xbox, do you even have a plan anymore?

TSA asks what is the future for Xbox.

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Chocoburger19h ago

They clearly never did, hence why they spent so many BILLIONS on other publishers as a last resort.

anast19h ago

They have a plan. It's to move everything toward streaming and mobile. This is just the next step.

Cacabunga18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

With half of the money they spent, they could have been on the very top and the gaming industry would be way bigger than it is.. encourage developers, indies, make them grow trust them and they will deliver.

Tody_za17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

What are you talking about Cacabunga? The Xbox faithful insisted that Microsoft has infinite money, and after Activision they should buy Square Enix and Capcom before Sony does. There was no chance ever that Microsoft would do this. They would use their infinite millions and Bitcoins to invest in 50 new IP and beat everyone.

Tody_za15h ago

Did I really need to add a /s to my comment...

SonyStyled13h ago

The Parent company of Xbox spent billions on publishers, not Xbox

andy8518h ago

To ruin great studios it's looking like

Skuletor18h ago

Sure, a plan to be a more hated game company than EA. Ubisoft were recently giving them a run for their money but I think Xbox have really knocked it out the park with their latest stunt.

neutralgamer199218h ago

Absolutely not, their whole plan is at odd with what MS wants

Phil wants GP to become big
MS wants to sell games and make billions

GP can’t be sustained with AAA games which take 3-5 years and 7 figure budgets. Only go put those games on GP day one. Why do you think games are coming out on other platforms?

People want a change and want Phil gone without realizing if someone new comes along they may want to change everything again so we just keep going in circles. Phil has to realize that and give clear message on the direction of Xbox

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