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Used Games Are Not The Problem With The Video Games Industry

This opinion piece here is in response to this video that was recommended for me to watch that supported the abolishment of used video games. They also argued that games can not be compared to DVDs, music or any of those formats for various reasons. I’ve watched the whole video and here is my response on why used games are not the problem. - LazyTechGuys

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fattyuk3960d ago

No Microsoft are the problem.

Cam9773960d ago (Edited 3960d ago )

You really do have a point though. They lie, they put money before the consumer and put a higher price tag on cheaper hardware (showing they really want money). I honestly think MS' former used game negativity came from lack of exclusives (so they weren't making as much money as say, Sony). They buy time-based content too, this is the worst thing and done to make up for lack of exclusive games.

B1663r3960d ago

Well and there will be far fewer console exclusives this gen as well. They will also be most heavily affected by policies to blunt the resale value of games...

Gaming1013960d ago

lol of course Msoft wants money, they're a business not a charity. Executives want a bigger bonus, and how do they get that? Bring the company more profits, that's how.

cleft53959d ago

Exactly, had I known Microsoft would pull this drm bs I would have never brought a 360. They reverted their policies for now but it is clear what they have in mind. I want nothing to do with that company and outside of buying the HD remake of Fable, provided it's good, I will not be buying anymore games for the 360 and I am done paying for xbox live.

3-4-53959d ago

Trash games and shovelware are the problem.

One group of people make a good game and instead of coming up with their own idea, people just copy.

There isn't much originality or creativity in the industry in terms of the people making the games.

Sure they can program good and make the game bug free, but their ideas are narrow minded and gimmicky at best because they aren't open thinkers.

Too much of this in the industry and it just waters down otherwise good genres.

crazysammy3960d ago

This is a great article. I had not seen the video he references from Total Biscuit so I watched that before reading this post and he makes some valid points. Game and in the US here GameStop are being too aggressive when it comes to used games. However the used game market is not just about buying, its about selling. Many people only buy new games however they still SELL old games to get those new ones. A point TB overlooked in his video.

steven83r3960d ago

Used games aren't the problem. A short campaign is. I don't want to spend $60 pre tax on a game with 7 hours of gameplay, sure there's multiplayer but i prefer single player even in FPS. I would never buy BF4, Killzone SF, COD if they were only multiplayer games. The campaign is what get's you interested in the game for the most part. Besides it's not like Gamestop is selling used games at a steal. They are crooks and never understood how people are willing to pay 54.99 for the used copy and not 59.99 for the new one. Used should always be under $50.

B1663r3960d ago

It doesn't matter what you want. The publishers now set the pricing and distribution policy for both Sony and Microsoft.

The main reason that download edition of ~some~ games will be discounted is to blunt the resale value of the disk based games.

ShaunCameron3960d ago

No it's not. Most SP campaigns back then were barely half as long as today's short SP campaigns for virtually the same price, with little extra content. If anything today's games have way more content.

<A short campaign is. I don't want to spend $60 pre tax on a game with 7 hours of gameplay,>

B1663r3960d ago

The article makes a mistake... Disk based games will not be an option. They were going to be an option, but Microsofts efforts to limit used game sales failed.

What you will see in the coming generation is that only Triple A block busters get released on disk. Everything else will be download only.

Another thing that you will see is games that are download timed exclusives. They will be available for download a couple of months before the disk release, seriously blunting the value of used games.

And yes, you will also see downloads with a discount over their physical copy counterparts.

This will start to happen immediately.

steven83r3960d ago (Edited 3960d ago )

Problem is greed drives most of these companies. So a discount version of a digital game won't be happening. Look at music. Itunes charges $1 per song and sometimes comes out to more than Best Buy sells the CD for. There is no manufacturing and distribution involved yet they feel they can charge full price. Digital won't take off unless we are guaranteed our investments will be protected. Imagine you have 30 games all digital and MS or Sony are hacked and all accounts are wiped. There will be no way of knowing what you purchased and you lost everything. And backing up everyones purchases on other servers is way to expensive. Only option i see is no physical copy but a card with a download code that if anything happens just re-enter code and re-download game and keep cards in binder or something.

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iceman063959d ago

Good point. MS stands to lose 10% of their revenue for reducing the price of a game just by $5. What company will do that? Your solution is probably the best that I have seen. Lock this code to your account and it's gold.

steven83r3960d ago

What these publishers/developers need to do if they want to sell more games is, COD for example is heavily focused on Multiplayer. So they should make the campaign about 7 hrs or so and release 2 copies of the game. One with limited online play less maps, weapons, upgrades so on and charge $44.99. And a full version at $59.99 with download code inside to unlock all maps and what not missing in stripped down version.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7222h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio6h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning772h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga9h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21838h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan3h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus232h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv722h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10112h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos11h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac11h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic8h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein21h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno17h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k416h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson15h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu16h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson15h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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The INDIE Live Expo 2024 event is to feature over 100 game titles

INDIE Live Expo, Japan’s premiere online digital showcase series , will debut never-before-seen games & content updates across more than 100 titles on May 25th.