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PlayStation 4 vs Xbox One: Which one has the better gaming controller?

The brutal rivalry between the Sony PlayStation 4 and Microsoft Xbox One is surely one of epic proportions. Specs sheets are being thrown left and right as arguments in favor of one console or the other, exclusive titles get analyzed and compared, while each company is using every possible occasion to strike at its opponent. Sometimes, though, we can get a bit carried away in our silly little arguments, focusing on small details that don’t always have a profound impact on our gaming experience. We do tend to forget the importance of some fundamental features of every game console, such as the controller.

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GoldPunch-TR3978d ago

More advanced controller: PS4
More comfortable controller: Xbox One's controller

Wintersun6163978d ago

So you've held and played with both of them? Even if you had, it's all subjective as far as comfort goes.

I prefer DualShock but they're both great in their own ways.

Nitrowolf23978d ago

I think the DS4 obviously wins in terms of changes.

But Until I have felt either one of them in my hand, why are we getting asked this so f'n early when the consoels aren't even out

georgeenoob3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

Xbox 1 hands down.

360 controller was the best controller and this one is even better. I understand some people have their own preference, but majority of unbiased people would agree the x1 controller is way better.

Notice I said unbiased, definitely not n4g.

Lord_Sloth3978d ago

@ georgeenoob

You realize people can be bias towards the 360 controller as well, right? It isn't just PS fans who are bias against the competition.

miyamoto3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

how can anyone defend or buy a product from a backstabbing company like m$?

if they had their way its the end of gaming as we know it

product over principles?

some people has turned into mindless robots

Sitdown3978d ago

@miyamoto
So you believe all for profit companies are squeaky clean? Do share....

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The Real Peter Moore3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

"georgeenoob
Xbox 1 hands down."

"Notice I said unbiased, definitely not n4g."

Says the ultra biased MS fanboy with the 2 bubbles. You aint fooling anybody, except yourself.

And to opinska, what choice do you have? what use linux? no thanks, far more difficult to handle and way less driver support. What pay Apple their ridiculously high prices? What go with some other more obscure OS? you really dont have a choice and its not like he was buying/got his computer for the MS OS. So shut it stupid!

sic_chops3978d ago

Apparently George up there has held and played the DS4. I won't make a judgement until I use both.

Heartnet3978d ago

Ergonomically speaking its all on the Xbox controller... has been since the 360 and why Sony havnt changed there analogue placement is beyond me...

Ds3 controller was far to small and bad placement of analogue sticks.... didnt bother me to much but in comparison to the XBox 360 controller it isnt comfortable :L

@GoldPunch

and having a touch pad and a bright led light on it doesnt make it more Advanced xD by that logic having a windows 8 doublesided tablet makes it more advanced than an iPad cuz its got 2 screens..... No... just no...

Patrick3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

@opinska
The Real Peter Moore hit the nail on the head. When you go in to buy a PC you dont get a list of operating systems to choose one from.... you dont get a choice at all. Can you imagine what would happen to MS if you walked in to buy a PC and the guy behind the counter could say "Would you like MS Windows OS or Googles new PC Android OS in your PC?" lol.. Id be like hell yeah I want Android and so would a lot of other people and MS would begin to be less the huge deep pockets company many of yall gloat about. The only reason they are as large as they are, is because you have no other options. Give people options and see what happens.

OT... I love the dual shock and I am looking forward to getting the new one in my hands. Looks even more comfortable.

Greatness Awaits and U R NOT (red)E

Boody-Bandit3978d ago

All I know is what I didn't like about these controllers (360 & DS3) it appears both companies have addressed. I will wait until I get my hands on them for myself before passing judgment.

TotalHitman3978d ago

@Heartnet, what's wrong with the analogue placement? I assume most PS fans including myself prefer the analogues where they are. I've tried using the 360 controller and the analogue placement is off putting. For those with small hands (including myself), the DualShock3 is much more comfortable, whereas the 360 controller feels big and clunky. However, that is my opinion.

Dee_913978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

I just like how the xbox one controller looks.but I never liked the thumbsticks and rop buttons on the xbox controller

fyi when someone talks about how they feel they mean based on previous models.So please dead that snarky "so youve played both" crap
its getting old

Chris5583978d ago

X1 2013 controller AA batteries ahahahaha

abzdine3978d ago

DS4 just for the features built in it! it's a true next gen controller.

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Cam9773978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

And you've held them? I've held them both and the PS4 controller is the superior product. Not only has it been remodeled to suit those XBONE fanboys complaining about a "tiny controller" (it has longer grips and better button spacing), but it also has more advanced tech integrated such as the touchpad and ability to charge it through a USB.

And I'm sorry, but the Xbone controller has very, very little new functions to get hyped about, it still requires a battery pack for goodness sake!

This aspect is fairly subjective but I firmly believe that the PS4 controller has the prettier aesthetics when compared to the XBONE controller. I don't know about anybody else, but I think the XBONE controller looks really ugly whereas the PS4 one looks sleek and comfortable.

UNGR3978d ago

Yeah some troll on N4G got his hands on both controllers. SMH you kids are getting desperate.

No_Limit3978d ago

@Cam977, "I think the XBONE controller looks really ugly whereas the PS4 one looks sleek and comfortable."

LOL, trolling at its finest. Well done sir.

georgeenoob3978d ago

Little new functions? Do you not know about its rumble, which is a lot more advanced than DS4?

thezeldadoth3978d ago

man this fanboyism has reached a new level. coming to a gaming news website is now more like entering into a church of people harping about how their savior is so awesome.

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sic_chops3978d ago

Once again, Georgenoob has played and felt the rumble on the DS4. Doubt it.

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AngelicIceDiamond3978d ago

I'm sure they're both precise and comfortable.

Argument over.

AngryEnglish3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

Nicely put Angelic

Your hands tell you which controller you find best for you.... Not your eyes

Both controllers will have been tested and gone through many changes before the versions we see now, its not a case of some tool sat in the office drawing shapes and choosing which he likes the look of.

After extensive testing these will both be excellent controllers seperated by personal preference

AngelicIceDiamond3978d ago

@Angry Exactly If I'm playing on PlayStation I can simply adjust to it, and same with Xbox.

Controllers have never been something to argue over. Its something that's purely subjective.

I can play with both and easily adjust myself to both controllers, I dunno what others excuses are.

dantesparda3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

Nicely done Angelic

Very unfanboyish of you, now if we could all be this honest. I completely agree, i adjust real quickly to either controller, they both have their pros and cons, but that is just a matter of my opinion, not some fact. Its refreshing to see someone act so civilized about it, like that.

saint_seya3978d ago

Well i have to say i totally agree with you.
Well said.

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Donnieboi3978d ago

I dunno man, the handles for the pS4 dual shock 4 are more curved, rounded out, and seem longer. To me, it looks like it will be even more comfy than the dual shock 3 (which I already found to be pretty comfy). The bottom looks like it has a nice groove to grip the contours of my hands (damn I sound like an infomercial atm lol). And my hands are kinda large, so it looks like it will fit pretty snuggly.

I also like the slightly concave grooves in the analog sticks--it's not too deep, so those who hate concave won't dislike it too much, while those like me who do like it concaved can enjoy it more.

Heartnet3978d ago

It better be more comfortable than the Ds3 but i spose thats to be expected and a easy to reach milestone..

Heck i had to buy the EA sports grips just to have some ease of use wiht my DS3.... Controller far to small and light... Dunno about you but a controller needs some added weight to it.

fermcr3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

This gen the X360 had a better controller then the PS3... next gen remains to be seen.

X1's controller looks very similar to the X360's, with small alterations.

PS4's controller seems to be a improvement over the PS3's. It's bigger and looks more comfy then the DS3.

Heartnet3978d ago

Its bigger and aside from the led light thing attached to it looks rather similar albeit a little more curved..

Ergonomically i still reckon XBox will be more comfortable to hold. And i think the X1 controller is like us aid small alterations but theyve said something like 40+ changes... etc The D-Pad is a huge improvement lol glad they went with the sony like approach.. almost xD

MariaHelFutura3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

Controllers are entirely preference. The 'share button' is my favorite feature of either controller and the PS4 controller doesn't have a battery pack.

Mystogan3978d ago

How does not having removable batteries something positive?

What do you do when the battery stops working?

The X1 controller has the battery pack integrated with the design. So it doesn't get in the way now.

No_Limit3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

It is the same argument regarding Apple iPhone and their computers not having removable batteries as an option while competitors allow for those options; yet, Apple fans will continue to defend their product to death. Same applies here.

Yea, if the battery dies within 2 years, buying a $15 battery pack vice forking out another $60 to buy a new controller is just not a better option. /S

MariaHelFutura3978d ago

The PS3s controllers don't need batteries to operate.

Bzone243978d ago

Neither does the Xbox controller if it's hooked up to the console via usb cord. That is the only way either controller will work without a battery. PS3 does have a battery, just not replaceable without taking the controller apart.

kickerz3978d ago

my favourite feature from either controller is xbox rumble in the triggers. i think that is awesome :)

Hicken3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

@Mystogan: The DS3 easily lasts YEARS. I got a used 80GB PS3 back in 2008 and the controller still works.

Not having removable batteries is a positive because it's batteries you don't have to buy.

@No_Limit: Yeah... no. If the battery in an Apple device lasted as long, that'd be one thing... but it doesn't. As for battery packs, that'll be something extra you'll have to buy for the X1 controller, as it'll be running AA batteries out of the box. So there's that extra cost off the bat, and it probably won't be as cheap as $15.

@Bzone: In the case of the XBOne, the USB doesn't QUITE charge the battery. It still burns some charge there; the controller just happens to get more power from the system than the battery. Microsoft has said, though, that it doesn't recharge the batteries that way.

@Maria: I wouldn't say it's ALL preference, as things like the Share button and touchpad are objective improvements that can be "graded."

Edit: Overall, I think the DS4 has more improvements that will have an impact on gameplay.

Bzone243978d ago

Where in my post did I say it charged the batteries. I was talking about the only way to use the controllers without any battery.

It will charge with a charge pack though.

T23978d ago

@mystogan - just stop ... I have four ps3 controllers six years old. Not one has ever lost any charge

jeffgoldwin3978d ago

You can really tell the brainwashed fans here like Hicken who say they like not being to have the option of changing batteries, like its a good.

Newsflash, batteries lose charge over time and need to be replaced. I get that some of u have 5 or 6 year old controllers that still can hold a whopping 1-2 hour charge, but no ty.

Rhythmattic3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

One of my DS3 batteries died..

A li-po replacement $3.80 delivered from ebay...

Undo 5 screws, Insert Batt, Screw back together.... 3 min later a functioning controller with a brand new built in rechargeable battery...

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Mystogan3978d ago

Xbox One controller for me. My thumbs always collide on the dualshock. X1 controller beats the Dualshock by miles. There's a reason most pro gamers use an Xbox controller. Most PC-version games were played with X1 controllers at E3.

Touchpad on Dualshock seems pretty useful for switching weapons in AC4 for example. But it's nothing that couldn't be done with a normal Controller.

strickers3978d ago

According to the podcast I listened to( it was Gamesradar or Joystic) , 3rd party next Gen games were almost all demoed using Dualshock 4.

mxrider21993978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

do you play on negative sensitivity bc your thumbs should never be that far in that direction (atleast at the same time) haha
edit: i even have extenders on my controller and they never hit...

True_Samurai3978d ago

Wow more advanced because of a touch pad -___- and two new buttons

GribbleGrunger3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

The answer is very simple: The ergonomic controller is the best. The other is a learned skill, not a natural skill. My hands at rest on my lap are always symmetrical. Nature decided that, not a designer.

GameCents3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

You are exactly right. And when I play most games my thumbs rest very symmetrically on the left stick and the face buttons.
Except of course when I'm playing an FPS. ;)

In all seriousness, it is all subjective. Most of the world seems to prefer the asymmetrical approach, proven by the number of 3rd party controller designs but others prefer the 1996 way, putting the d-pad in the predominant position even though it no longer is the predominant tool for input.
That's okay I say. To each his own.

Jakens3978d ago

I like what both controllers have but I would say I like Xbox a little more. Here is why.

The Xbox right thumb stick is placed so that my right thumb can move left and right very easily. This is a very natural movement for my thumb based on the position of the stick on the controller.

The Xbox left thumb stick is placed so that my right thumb can move forward and aft very easily. This is a very natural movement for my thumb based on the position of the stick on the controller.

Playstation however, has FPS play as a "learned skill, not a natural skill". Using your words against you. This would be correct, albeit in my favor sir and not in yours.

"My hands at rest on my lap are always symmetrical". This part is true for all people. You may have a cookie.

I must say though for one of my thumbs to mostly move forward and aft and the other to mostly move left and right on a pad, it is only "natural" that the sticks would be offset by a little bit. Xbox does this, PS4 does not.

"Nature decided that, not a designer". would be correct, albeit in my favor sir and not in yours.

I do have a slight complain about the Xbox controller and that is that the thumb sticks are offset by a little too much. I want them a little more like the PS4 controller.

Honestly, it really doesn't matter to me too much because I adjust within a few seconds or I could buy a third party controller.

GribbleGrunger3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

@Jenkin: Although you disagree with what I say, you disagree with intelligence. I WILL from this point on, weigh my opinion against your excellent explanation.

Bubble to you, Sir.

Hicken3978d ago

Except that making it easier to do the more natural motion invariably makes it harder to do the less natural motion. Meaning that the asymmetrical placement of the sticks is detrimental to OVERALL performance.

The left stick making it easier to move left and right means these motions will be better executed, at a slight cost to moving back and forward. Which is alright, because that's an easier, more natural motion to make anyway; it's not something that would be hindered all that much.

In all honesty, it's the right stick that should swap with the face buttons, if you say it allows for better left and right movement, so that it makes for improved vertical motion. Again, your natural motions won't be hindered as much as the less natural motions would be in the opposite situation.

You close by saying it doesn't matter, because you adjust within a few seconds. Well why does the layout of the DS matter? It would take you as much time, perhaps a little more, to adjust, provided you're not accustomed to the Xbox layout in the first place.

With it actually offering improved ability for the less natural movements, as you call them, it shouldn't take more than a few seconds for you to adapt to that. And hell, it's only one thumb, anyway. Not like it's a completely different controller layout all around.

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Gaming_Guru3978d ago

That's a common thing to say about the controllers given previous controller designs, but if they are like their counterparts I will most likely find both of them comfortable, functional (fighting games aren't the best of the previous directional pad with XBOX), and well designed.

I'm the type of person who adapts to each device than to buy products that all look and do the same things.

r1sh123978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

because they are quite similar to the 360 and ps3 controllers respectively, I currently prefer the 360 controller (apart from that stupid ass battery pack).

With the controllers being very similar, I can only assume the X1 controller is better.

Although, I remember I saw a video on machinima about the controller.
1 of the youtubers said its the best controller hes held, and its perfect for shooting, driving games.
(he said that)

I can only tell when I have them in my hand, but I do think the x1 controller looks better.

GrownUpGamer3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

The positions of the analog sticks are key in which is the most comfortable controller.

I bet my balls that if the Xbox 360/One Controller design was a PS design PS fanboys here will be saying the contrary.

By the way i never liked the PS controller design. Not in the PS1, PS2, PS3 and i own playstations.

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omi25p3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

X1 controller easily.

Ergonomic shape, Pressure sensitive rumble triggers. Replaceable battery, The triggers are better so you dont end up clicking them all the time like on the PS3/PS4, Bigger and it doesn't have tiny little buttons squeezed into little gaps, Like the start and share button on the PS4.

If the materials the controllers were made out of this generation are anything to go by, The 360 controller is solid where as the DS3 shatters.

I literally have a hole in the bottom of my controller from were i rage quited playing Killzone 2 on hard. The whole left side of the controller is being held together with masking tape

Also how is this even up for debate. They 360 controller is so popular there is a version of it on for the PS3, The WII U's controller is almost an exact copy. Its the best controller because other controllers wants to be like it.

imdaboss13978d ago

based on many reviewers the PS4 dualshock 4 is the winner..xbone controllers looks the same to me nothing really have change just some minor stuff..

tigertom533978d ago

Xbox one is more advanced It might not have recharge able batteries out of the box but, ps4 still uses an old Bluetooth 2.1 2mbps vs WIFI Direct chipset that can move data 250mbps.. Plus

tigertom533978d ago

Impulse Triggers – Xbox One’s Wireless Controller sports four vibration motors – a small one behind each trigger that adds precise haptic feedback to the finger tips, and a larger in each grip for large scale rumbles. This gives users a sense of in-game directionality and depth, creating rich, immersive experiences where gunshots, car crashes and explosions can come to life.

Higher Quality Headset Audio – The data transfer rate between the controller and console has been improved, allowing for higher fidelity audio in communication headsets. In-game chat over Xbox Live, according to the team, will be in many cases clearer than talking on a phone.

Revamped Thumbsticks – The thumbsticks are built for precision and comfort. They’re smaller and outlined with a knurled texture for better grip. Competitive gamers will be pleased to hear the sticks require 25 percent less force to move, allowing you to adjust your aim in a first-person shooter or execute a half-circle sweep in a fighting game faster and more accurately. The controller also uses advanced electronics that reduce thumbstick deadzone in the center.

Brand New D-Pad – The old Xbox 360 D-pad is replaced by a new design that pays homage to classic controllers and is architectured to deliver more precision and tactile feedback for gaming. The D-pad’s cross shape is honed to provide accurate cardinal direction input, sweeping movements and combinations – important factors for sports and fighting games, and other experiences.

Buttons, Buttons, Buttons – The A, B, X and Y buttons are lower to the controller with tighter spacing, making the transition between each one smoother. A new, three-step manufacturing process gives these buttons a more premium look, as if the letters on them are suspended in 3-D space. The size and placement of the Xbox button has also changed so the view and menu buttons are more accessible.

Seamless Connectivity – Each controller uses a combination of invisible reflective technology and LEDs to send a patterned infrared signal to your console and Kinect sensor. Not only does this make pairing the devices seamless, but it enables Kinect to associate the controller with whoever is holding it. This introduces innovative experiences, such as player switching, where a split screen display can swap positions on the TV if users change seats on the couch.

Low Power State – If you’re watching a movie or need to step away from the TV, the controller enters a low power state that conserves your battery. The moment you pick it up again, it will be ready for use without having to resynch with the console.

Refined for Comfort – The controller’s design is deliberately honed to the closest tenth of a millimeter to offer the most comfortable fit in users’ hands, and was tested extensively by a broader age group than ever before to ensure it is optimized for as many people as possible. According to the team’s research, this improves gameplay performance and allows comfortable gaming for longer periods of time.

Angled Triggers and Bumpers – The triggers and bumpers are carefully designed for performance and comfort. The specific angling allows for a natural fit for your fingers, and the triggers require a lighter pull, so squeezing it repeatedly is an easier and more precise action.

Internal Battery Cavity –The compartment that houses AA batteries is built into the interior of the controller, providing more room at the bottom for your fingers to grip. Another convenient improvement is that the controller is both wireless and a wired– simply plug it into your console with a mini USB cable and the connection automatically switches to preserve battery life.

sAVAge_bEaST3978d ago

So you must be the resident xbox controller salesman... almost worst than a used car salesman ./

NumOnePS3FanBoy3978d ago

What I find funny is that a lot of the xbox players emphasize "triggers... trigger. trig" because they only play shooters. It just goes to show that when they think the xbox controller is "superior" they are deluded by playing subpar games like COD

JsonHenry3978d ago

I honestly think that the xbox controller of THIS gen is more comfortable. I know it comes down to personal taste when judging ergonomics though. My brother has the same size hands as I do and he prefers the PS3 controller. However I have noticed that if I play with any controller (including my logitech PC gamepad) I get used them fairly quickly and "comfort" is an after thought because I forget I am even holding a gamepad while playing. Which I guess is a good thing.

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Majin-vegeta3978d ago

How do we know??We still havent gotten our hands on them.

xXBlondieVanHarlowXx3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

I'm guessing they want us to just wing it and take a wild guess. @_@ hmm...

Dualshock 4. It looks like a crazy futuristic video game controller (which it kinda is) :O Plus it has some awesome new features to fiddle around with. And the stick layout is just more my thing. I never liked the diagonal stick layout.

GusBricker3978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

Pretty much this.

Although, the left stick location is a big deal to a lot of gamers.

alb18993978d ago

All I can say is that we should wait.
How people can talk so much trash without know the facts.
Only after couple of months playing with both i will know.

Relientk773978d ago

If were talking most innovative and best design, hands down Dual Shock 4 , it looks frickin' awesome

Mystogan3978d ago

Both look the same as their predecessors...

X1 controller will be the most comfortable as always. Although there are some who prefer the Dualshock.

hellvaguy3977d ago

Its looks funny, like a stretch limo. Although it shud be more comfy for people with adult sized hands because its wider. Touchpad is a gimmick, not interested. Just meh 2 cents.

ThatCanadianGuy5143978d ago

One has a battery pack.The other was made in 2013.

PS4 wins this one by default.

Mystogan3978d ago

Again... How does not having removable battery something positive?

What do you do when the battery stops charging?

Lord_Sloth3978d ago

I guess we'll find out when my 7 year old conttroller finally stops holding a charge......I'll tell you as soon as that happens...

cee7733978d ago (Edited 3978d ago )

@mystogan

you open the controller and change the battery every 3+ years lol I cant believe were still debating this you can change the ds3 battery no problem so im sure it will be the same for the ds4

touchpad, speaker, non proprietary headphone jack, light bar, rubber grips tech-wise ds4 wins hands down

Angeljuice3978d ago

@Mystogan

You unscrew the back, unplug the battery, plug in the new battery and screw on the back again. The whole process takes under 2 minutes , but as most of the batteries outlast the life of the PlayStation, you seldom need to.

arkard3978d ago

Well neither of my ps3 controllers that I got since launch have stopped holding a charge so I don't see the problem.

Rockstar3978d ago

@Lord_Sloth

Excellent answer.
I have had my controllers since 06 with no issue.
+ bubs for common sense.

sAVAge_bEaST3978d ago

My lanch sixaxis, and my DS3 Controllers both still hold a long ass charge.. (remember,Microsoft isn't making this hardware, it's sony)

Horny3978d ago

Launch ps3 controllers still hold a charge. Guess how many battery packs I had to buy for my X box before I gave up and just leave them plugged in to the usb charger. Yes my wireless X box controllers are now wired because after buying a fourth battery pack I said screw it.
If you don't play your X box for a month or two and the controller doesn't get charged say bye to your battery.

With that said all these comments are irrelevant as is this article. Its trying to apply last Gen to next. People who have had time with each controller at e3 favored the new dual shock. Im mostly happy about X box lowering it's dead zone and increasing responsiveness which was my main problem with the original. Until I have tried both I'll reserve my judgement.

hellvaguy3977d ago

Holding a charge for 1-2 hours is not winning. Just sayin.

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GusBricker3978d ago

How long is the DS4's recharging cable?

The PS3's was like 3-4ft long.

Give me the option for batteries/battery pack any day over playing so close to the TV.

Angeljuice3978d ago

It charges in a little over an hour and lasts more than a day. Or you can buy a 10 ft usb cable for under $2. God, anyone would think it was rocket-science, are all Xbots this dumb?

GusBricker3978d ago

What do you think I'm talking about? Options.

And please, like you've never forgot to charge something.

Rockstar3978d ago

LOL

Charge your damn controllers!

Never been an issue.

You're looking for problems where none exist.

True_Samurai3978d ago

Actually you can plug up to the x1 controller with a USB cable and charge it now what?

arkard3978d ago

If you buy the rechargeable battery pack. Which I'm sure is proprietary M$ technology so I'm sure that alone will be 60$

jeffgoldwin3978d ago

@arkard

They are AA. So you can buy 3rd party rechargeable AA or even ms or 3rd party packs.

Total freedom>soldered in batteries.

PigPen3978d ago

That's nothing to celebrate when I look at how you had to charge the PS3 controller.

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strigoi8143978d ago

Havent touch and feel any of the two..so i cant tell

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk7711h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE8h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7308h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor5h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos5h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor4h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos4h ago

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Rumored PlayStation May 2024 showcase could happen this week per industry insider

A renowned industry insider has suggested the rumored PlayStation May 2024 showcase featuring Silent Hill 2 could happen this week.

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Petebloodyonion10h ago

Bogus!
Why would Sony do that and how would this benefit them?
1) It would piss off their media partners (IGN, Gamespot, Edge, etc.) since they would have to allocate resources fast to cover the event.
2) Risk of not having great coverage or proper coverage from the various source
3) It could give the impression that they are not confident in their own stuff.
4) They would miss the chance to hype the event losing viewers and losing free marketing time.

Again I'm calling it bogus unless it's a small showcase before the big one or because they want to announce that Hellbalde 2 is also coming on PS5.

SlothLordPootus9h ago

As far as I can remember, they typically give a week heads up for these sorts of things.

Lightning779h ago

I was about to say Sony always gives a week in advance for their show.

VersusDMC8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Last year it was a weeks notice.

https://blog.playstation.co...

May 17th announcement for may 24th show.

VersusDMC8h ago

Nintendo always tweets that a direct is happening tomorrow but no one cares.

Sony gives a week or days of notice and we get anti sony type fake outrage like this.

But good luck trying trying to get some Sony hate going...

Petebloodyonion8h ago

You just mention it!
Sony gives a week in advance NOT just a couple of days.
So I fail to see what Sony's hate movement I'm trying to start when it's a basic business strategy to not piss off your partners (ask Sega).
And I doubt it's hate to ask how it would benefit Sony in doing so.

thesoftware7307h ago(Edited 7h ago)

@Versus
Huh? What?

Bro you really should relax, if what you read was some kinda negative against Sony.... seriously, is that what you got from the comments?

Bro, he was debunking the rumor, and gave perfectly good reasons why it would be unlikely, and your Nintendo Direct comparison is different, as this is supposed to be a BIG Sony showcase, not a surprise 20 min direct, and Sony 's pattern has been one week.

Slow down warmonger.

VersusDMC7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

@thesoftware730

"1) It would piss off their media partners (IGN, Gamespot, Edge, etc.) since they would have to allocate resources fast to cover the event."

That is implying Sony is preventing them from doing their job properly therefore negatively affecting their business...but i guess that's a reach in your mind?

And it's not like they need that many resources to cover the stream. They just need 3 people to react to the stream live and make some easy articles made up mostly of summaries of Sony provided press releases. They would have enough time to "prepare" if it was announced with one days notice.

Petebloodyonion5h ago

@Versus
" That is implying Sony is preventing them from doing their job properly therefore negatively affecting their business...but i guess that's a reach in your mind"

No, it simply implies that some media all over the world might (keyword MIGHT) not properly cover the event like having proper articles for each game announced, or having a proper preshow. maybe some popular YouTubers won't have time to prepare or simply your local newspaper doing an article on tech and game.

So why would Sony take a chance?
What benefit would that give them?

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Petebloodyonion8h ago

Before I get tons of replies for Sony given a week in advance, my initial comments are related to the notion that the Show could happen this week as the title mentions.
Now to be fair the complete article mentions that Jeff said the Show could happen later in May giving time for Sony to give the normal 7-day notice.

Again not trying to start a negative thing here just thinking that it's bogus that Sony will have a show this week

notachance7h ago

Yeah as much as I’d like to hear what sony’s 1st parties have cooked, it’s not their style to shadow drop a showcase.

Still waiting for ghost of tsushima 2, I’m ready whenever man..

KwietStorm_BLM3h ago

You're assuming media outlets don't know about it.

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Hofstaderman7h ago

Going in with no expectations but likely will see something that resonates with me.

DeadlyFire2h ago

Nah they will announce it probably, but it won't happen right away soon though yes.

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus232d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 18h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 17h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 16h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC1d 6h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled2d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 20h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC1d 6h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 15h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 11h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 11h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead2d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 18h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 15h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 18h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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