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PlayStation 4 vs Xbox One: Which one has the better gaming controller?

The brutal rivalry between the Sony PlayStation 4 and Microsoft Xbox One is surely one of epic proportions. Specs sheets are being thrown left and right as arguments in favor of one console or the other, exclusive titles get analyzed and compared, while each company is using every possible occasion to strike at its opponent. Sometimes, though, we can get a bit carried away in our silly little arguments, focusing on small details that don’t always have a profound impact on our gaming experience. We do tend to forget the importance of some fundamental features of every game console, such as the controller.

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GoldPunch-TR3961d ago

More advanced controller: PS4
More comfortable controller: Xbox One's controller

Wintersun6163961d ago

So you've held and played with both of them? Even if you had, it's all subjective as far as comfort goes.

I prefer DualShock but they're both great in their own ways.

Nitrowolf23961d ago

I think the DS4 obviously wins in terms of changes.

But Until I have felt either one of them in my hand, why are we getting asked this so f'n early when the consoels aren't even out

georgeenoob3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

Xbox 1 hands down.

360 controller was the best controller and this one is even better. I understand some people have their own preference, but majority of unbiased people would agree the x1 controller is way better.

Notice I said unbiased, definitely not n4g.

Lord_Sloth3961d ago

@ georgeenoob

You realize people can be bias towards the 360 controller as well, right? It isn't just PS fans who are bias against the competition.

miyamoto3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

how can anyone defend or buy a product from a backstabbing company like m$?

if they had their way its the end of gaming as we know it

product over principles?

some people has turned into mindless robots

Sitdown3961d ago

@miyamoto
So you believe all for profit companies are squeaky clean? Do share....

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The Real Peter Moore3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

"georgeenoob
Xbox 1 hands down."

"Notice I said unbiased, definitely not n4g."

Says the ultra biased MS fanboy with the 2 bubbles. You aint fooling anybody, except yourself.

And to opinska, what choice do you have? what use linux? no thanks, far more difficult to handle and way less driver support. What pay Apple their ridiculously high prices? What go with some other more obscure OS? you really dont have a choice and its not like he was buying/got his computer for the MS OS. So shut it stupid!

sic_chops3961d ago

Apparently George up there has held and played the DS4. I won't make a judgement until I use both.

Heartnet3961d ago

Ergonomically speaking its all on the Xbox controller... has been since the 360 and why Sony havnt changed there analogue placement is beyond me...

Ds3 controller was far to small and bad placement of analogue sticks.... didnt bother me to much but in comparison to the XBox 360 controller it isnt comfortable :L

@GoldPunch

and having a touch pad and a bright led light on it doesnt make it more Advanced xD by that logic having a windows 8 doublesided tablet makes it more advanced than an iPad cuz its got 2 screens..... No... just no...

Patrick3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

@opinska
The Real Peter Moore hit the nail on the head. When you go in to buy a PC you dont get a list of operating systems to choose one from.... you dont get a choice at all. Can you imagine what would happen to MS if you walked in to buy a PC and the guy behind the counter could say "Would you like MS Windows OS or Googles new PC Android OS in your PC?" lol.. Id be like hell yeah I want Android and so would a lot of other people and MS would begin to be less the huge deep pockets company many of yall gloat about. The only reason they are as large as they are, is because you have no other options. Give people options and see what happens.

OT... I love the dual shock and I am looking forward to getting the new one in my hands. Looks even more comfortable.

Greatness Awaits and U R NOT (red)E

Boody-Bandit3961d ago

All I know is what I didn't like about these controllers (360 & DS3) it appears both companies have addressed. I will wait until I get my hands on them for myself before passing judgment.

TotalHitman3961d ago

@Heartnet, what's wrong with the analogue placement? I assume most PS fans including myself prefer the analogues where they are. I've tried using the 360 controller and the analogue placement is off putting. For those with small hands (including myself), the DualShock3 is much more comfortable, whereas the 360 controller feels big and clunky. However, that is my opinion.

Dee_913960d ago (Edited 3960d ago )

I just like how the xbox one controller looks.but I never liked the thumbsticks and rop buttons on the xbox controller

fyi when someone talks about how they feel they mean based on previous models.So please dead that snarky "so youve played both" crap
its getting old

Chris5583960d ago

X1 2013 controller AA batteries ahahahaha

abzdine3960d ago

DS4 just for the features built in it! it's a true next gen controller.

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Cam9773961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

And you've held them? I've held them both and the PS4 controller is the superior product. Not only has it been remodeled to suit those XBONE fanboys complaining about a "tiny controller" (it has longer grips and better button spacing), but it also has more advanced tech integrated such as the touchpad and ability to charge it through a USB.

And I'm sorry, but the Xbone controller has very, very little new functions to get hyped about, it still requires a battery pack for goodness sake!

This aspect is fairly subjective but I firmly believe that the PS4 controller has the prettier aesthetics when compared to the XBONE controller. I don't know about anybody else, but I think the XBONE controller looks really ugly whereas the PS4 one looks sleek and comfortable.

UNGR3961d ago

Yeah some troll on N4G got his hands on both controllers. SMH you kids are getting desperate.

No_Limit3961d ago

@Cam977, "I think the XBONE controller looks really ugly whereas the PS4 one looks sleek and comfortable."

LOL, trolling at its finest. Well done sir.

georgeenoob3961d ago

Little new functions? Do you not know about its rumble, which is a lot more advanced than DS4?

thezeldadoth3961d ago

man this fanboyism has reached a new level. coming to a gaming news website is now more like entering into a church of people harping about how their savior is so awesome.

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sic_chops3961d ago

Once again, Georgenoob has played and felt the rumble on the DS4. Doubt it.

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AngelicIceDiamond3961d ago

I'm sure they're both precise and comfortable.

Argument over.

AngryEnglish3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

Nicely put Angelic

Your hands tell you which controller you find best for you.... Not your eyes

Both controllers will have been tested and gone through many changes before the versions we see now, its not a case of some tool sat in the office drawing shapes and choosing which he likes the look of.

After extensive testing these will both be excellent controllers seperated by personal preference

AngelicIceDiamond3961d ago

@Angry Exactly If I'm playing on PlayStation I can simply adjust to it, and same with Xbox.

Controllers have never been something to argue over. Its something that's purely subjective.

I can play with both and easily adjust myself to both controllers, I dunno what others excuses are.

dantesparda3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

Nicely done Angelic

Very unfanboyish of you, now if we could all be this honest. I completely agree, i adjust real quickly to either controller, they both have their pros and cons, but that is just a matter of my opinion, not some fact. Its refreshing to see someone act so civilized about it, like that.

saint_seya3961d ago

Well i have to say i totally agree with you.
Well said.

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Donnieboi3961d ago

I dunno man, the handles for the pS4 dual shock 4 are more curved, rounded out, and seem longer. To me, it looks like it will be even more comfy than the dual shock 3 (which I already found to be pretty comfy). The bottom looks like it has a nice groove to grip the contours of my hands (damn I sound like an infomercial atm lol). And my hands are kinda large, so it looks like it will fit pretty snuggly.

I also like the slightly concave grooves in the analog sticks--it's not too deep, so those who hate concave won't dislike it too much, while those like me who do like it concaved can enjoy it more.

Heartnet3961d ago

It better be more comfortable than the Ds3 but i spose thats to be expected and a easy to reach milestone..

Heck i had to buy the EA sports grips just to have some ease of use wiht my DS3.... Controller far to small and light... Dunno about you but a controller needs some added weight to it.

fermcr3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

This gen the X360 had a better controller then the PS3... next gen remains to be seen.

X1's controller looks very similar to the X360's, with small alterations.

PS4's controller seems to be a improvement over the PS3's. It's bigger and looks more comfy then the DS3.

Heartnet3961d ago

Its bigger and aside from the led light thing attached to it looks rather similar albeit a little more curved..

Ergonomically i still reckon XBox will be more comfortable to hold. And i think the X1 controller is like us aid small alterations but theyve said something like 40+ changes... etc The D-Pad is a huge improvement lol glad they went with the sony like approach.. almost xD

MariaHelFutura3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

Controllers are entirely preference. The 'share button' is my favorite feature of either controller and the PS4 controller doesn't have a battery pack.

Mystogan3961d ago

How does not having removable batteries something positive?

What do you do when the battery stops working?

The X1 controller has the battery pack integrated with the design. So it doesn't get in the way now.

No_Limit3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

It is the same argument regarding Apple iPhone and their computers not having removable batteries as an option while competitors allow for those options; yet, Apple fans will continue to defend their product to death. Same applies here.

Yea, if the battery dies within 2 years, buying a $15 battery pack vice forking out another $60 to buy a new controller is just not a better option. /S

MariaHelFutura3961d ago

The PS3s controllers don't need batteries to operate.

Bzone243961d ago

Neither does the Xbox controller if it's hooked up to the console via usb cord. That is the only way either controller will work without a battery. PS3 does have a battery, just not replaceable without taking the controller apart.

kickerz3961d ago

my favourite feature from either controller is xbox rumble in the triggers. i think that is awesome :)

Hicken3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

@Mystogan: The DS3 easily lasts YEARS. I got a used 80GB PS3 back in 2008 and the controller still works.

Not having removable batteries is a positive because it's batteries you don't have to buy.

@No_Limit: Yeah... no. If the battery in an Apple device lasted as long, that'd be one thing... but it doesn't. As for battery packs, that'll be something extra you'll have to buy for the X1 controller, as it'll be running AA batteries out of the box. So there's that extra cost off the bat, and it probably won't be as cheap as $15.

@Bzone: In the case of the XBOne, the USB doesn't QUITE charge the battery. It still burns some charge there; the controller just happens to get more power from the system than the battery. Microsoft has said, though, that it doesn't recharge the batteries that way.

@Maria: I wouldn't say it's ALL preference, as things like the Share button and touchpad are objective improvements that can be "graded."

Edit: Overall, I think the DS4 has more improvements that will have an impact on gameplay.

Bzone243961d ago

Where in my post did I say it charged the batteries. I was talking about the only way to use the controllers without any battery.

It will charge with a charge pack though.

T23961d ago

@mystogan - just stop ... I have four ps3 controllers six years old. Not one has ever lost any charge

jeffgoldwin3960d ago

You can really tell the brainwashed fans here like Hicken who say they like not being to have the option of changing batteries, like its a good.

Newsflash, batteries lose charge over time and need to be replaced. I get that some of u have 5 or 6 year old controllers that still can hold a whopping 1-2 hour charge, but no ty.

Rhythmattic3960d ago (Edited 3960d ago )

One of my DS3 batteries died..

A li-po replacement $3.80 delivered from ebay...

Undo 5 screws, Insert Batt, Screw back together.... 3 min later a functioning controller with a brand new built in rechargeable battery...

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Mystogan3961d ago

Xbox One controller for me. My thumbs always collide on the dualshock. X1 controller beats the Dualshock by miles. There's a reason most pro gamers use an Xbox controller. Most PC-version games were played with X1 controllers at E3.

Touchpad on Dualshock seems pretty useful for switching weapons in AC4 for example. But it's nothing that couldn't be done with a normal Controller.

strickers3961d ago

According to the podcast I listened to( it was Gamesradar or Joystic) , 3rd party next Gen games were almost all demoed using Dualshock 4.

mxrider21993960d ago (Edited 3960d ago )

do you play on negative sensitivity bc your thumbs should never be that far in that direction (atleast at the same time) haha
edit: i even have extenders on my controller and they never hit...

True_Samurai3961d ago

Wow more advanced because of a touch pad -___- and two new buttons

GribbleGrunger3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

The answer is very simple: The ergonomic controller is the best. The other is a learned skill, not a natural skill. My hands at rest on my lap are always symmetrical. Nature decided that, not a designer.

GameCents3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

You are exactly right. And when I play most games my thumbs rest very symmetrically on the left stick and the face buttons.
Except of course when I'm playing an FPS. ;)

In all seriousness, it is all subjective. Most of the world seems to prefer the asymmetrical approach, proven by the number of 3rd party controller designs but others prefer the 1996 way, putting the d-pad in the predominant position even though it no longer is the predominant tool for input.
That's okay I say. To each his own.

Jakens3960d ago

I like what both controllers have but I would say I like Xbox a little more. Here is why.

The Xbox right thumb stick is placed so that my right thumb can move left and right very easily. This is a very natural movement for my thumb based on the position of the stick on the controller.

The Xbox left thumb stick is placed so that my right thumb can move forward and aft very easily. This is a very natural movement for my thumb based on the position of the stick on the controller.

Playstation however, has FPS play as a "learned skill, not a natural skill". Using your words against you. This would be correct, albeit in my favor sir and not in yours.

"My hands at rest on my lap are always symmetrical". This part is true for all people. You may have a cookie.

I must say though for one of my thumbs to mostly move forward and aft and the other to mostly move left and right on a pad, it is only "natural" that the sticks would be offset by a little bit. Xbox does this, PS4 does not.

"Nature decided that, not a designer". would be correct, albeit in my favor sir and not in yours.

I do have a slight complain about the Xbox controller and that is that the thumb sticks are offset by a little too much. I want them a little more like the PS4 controller.

Honestly, it really doesn't matter to me too much because I adjust within a few seconds or I could buy a third party controller.

GribbleGrunger3960d ago (Edited 3960d ago )

@Jenkin: Although you disagree with what I say, you disagree with intelligence. I WILL from this point on, weigh my opinion against your excellent explanation.

Bubble to you, Sir.

Hicken3960d ago

Except that making it easier to do the more natural motion invariably makes it harder to do the less natural motion. Meaning that the asymmetrical placement of the sticks is detrimental to OVERALL performance.

The left stick making it easier to move left and right means these motions will be better executed, at a slight cost to moving back and forward. Which is alright, because that's an easier, more natural motion to make anyway; it's not something that would be hindered all that much.

In all honesty, it's the right stick that should swap with the face buttons, if you say it allows for better left and right movement, so that it makes for improved vertical motion. Again, your natural motions won't be hindered as much as the less natural motions would be in the opposite situation.

You close by saying it doesn't matter, because you adjust within a few seconds. Well why does the layout of the DS matter? It would take you as much time, perhaps a little more, to adjust, provided you're not accustomed to the Xbox layout in the first place.

With it actually offering improved ability for the less natural movements, as you call them, it shouldn't take more than a few seconds for you to adapt to that. And hell, it's only one thumb, anyway. Not like it's a completely different controller layout all around.

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Gaming_Guru3961d ago

That's a common thing to say about the controllers given previous controller designs, but if they are like their counterparts I will most likely find both of them comfortable, functional (fighting games aren't the best of the previous directional pad with XBOX), and well designed.

I'm the type of person who adapts to each device than to buy products that all look and do the same things.

r1sh123961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

because they are quite similar to the 360 and ps3 controllers respectively, I currently prefer the 360 controller (apart from that stupid ass battery pack).

With the controllers being very similar, I can only assume the X1 controller is better.

Although, I remember I saw a video on machinima about the controller.
1 of the youtubers said its the best controller hes held, and its perfect for shooting, driving games.
(he said that)

I can only tell when I have them in my hand, but I do think the x1 controller looks better.

GrownUpGamer3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

The positions of the analog sticks are key in which is the most comfortable controller.

I bet my balls that if the Xbox 360/One Controller design was a PS design PS fanboys here will be saying the contrary.

By the way i never liked the PS controller design. Not in the PS1, PS2, PS3 and i own playstations.

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omi25p3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

X1 controller easily.

Ergonomic shape, Pressure sensitive rumble triggers. Replaceable battery, The triggers are better so you dont end up clicking them all the time like on the PS3/PS4, Bigger and it doesn't have tiny little buttons squeezed into little gaps, Like the start and share button on the PS4.

If the materials the controllers were made out of this generation are anything to go by, The 360 controller is solid where as the DS3 shatters.

I literally have a hole in the bottom of my controller from were i rage quited playing Killzone 2 on hard. The whole left side of the controller is being held together with masking tape

Also how is this even up for debate. They 360 controller is so popular there is a version of it on for the PS3, The WII U's controller is almost an exact copy. Its the best controller because other controllers wants to be like it.

imdaboss13961d ago

based on many reviewers the PS4 dualshock 4 is the winner..xbone controllers looks the same to me nothing really have change just some minor stuff..

tigertom533961d ago

Xbox one is more advanced It might not have recharge able batteries out of the box but, ps4 still uses an old Bluetooth 2.1 2mbps vs WIFI Direct chipset that can move data 250mbps.. Plus

tigertom533961d ago

Impulse Triggers – Xbox One’s Wireless Controller sports four vibration motors – a small one behind each trigger that adds precise haptic feedback to the finger tips, and a larger in each grip for large scale rumbles. This gives users a sense of in-game directionality and depth, creating rich, immersive experiences where gunshots, car crashes and explosions can come to life.

Higher Quality Headset Audio – The data transfer rate between the controller and console has been improved, allowing for higher fidelity audio in communication headsets. In-game chat over Xbox Live, according to the team, will be in many cases clearer than talking on a phone.

Revamped Thumbsticks – The thumbsticks are built for precision and comfort. They’re smaller and outlined with a knurled texture for better grip. Competitive gamers will be pleased to hear the sticks require 25 percent less force to move, allowing you to adjust your aim in a first-person shooter or execute a half-circle sweep in a fighting game faster and more accurately. The controller also uses advanced electronics that reduce thumbstick deadzone in the center.

Brand New D-Pad – The old Xbox 360 D-pad is replaced by a new design that pays homage to classic controllers and is architectured to deliver more precision and tactile feedback for gaming. The D-pad’s cross shape is honed to provide accurate cardinal direction input, sweeping movements and combinations – important factors for sports and fighting games, and other experiences.

Buttons, Buttons, Buttons – The A, B, X and Y buttons are lower to the controller with tighter spacing, making the transition between each one smoother. A new, three-step manufacturing process gives these buttons a more premium look, as if the letters on them are suspended in 3-D space. The size and placement of the Xbox button has also changed so the view and menu buttons are more accessible.

Seamless Connectivity – Each controller uses a combination of invisible reflective technology and LEDs to send a patterned infrared signal to your console and Kinect sensor. Not only does this make pairing the devices seamless, but it enables Kinect to associate the controller with whoever is holding it. This introduces innovative experiences, such as player switching, where a split screen display can swap positions on the TV if users change seats on the couch.

Low Power State – If you’re watching a movie or need to step away from the TV, the controller enters a low power state that conserves your battery. The moment you pick it up again, it will be ready for use without having to resynch with the console.

Refined for Comfort – The controller’s design is deliberately honed to the closest tenth of a millimeter to offer the most comfortable fit in users’ hands, and was tested extensively by a broader age group than ever before to ensure it is optimized for as many people as possible. According to the team’s research, this improves gameplay performance and allows comfortable gaming for longer periods of time.

Angled Triggers and Bumpers – The triggers and bumpers are carefully designed for performance and comfort. The specific angling allows for a natural fit for your fingers, and the triggers require a lighter pull, so squeezing it repeatedly is an easier and more precise action.

Internal Battery Cavity –The compartment that houses AA batteries is built into the interior of the controller, providing more room at the bottom for your fingers to grip. Another convenient improvement is that the controller is both wireless and a wired– simply plug it into your console with a mini USB cable and the connection automatically switches to preserve battery life.

sAVAge_bEaST3960d ago

So you must be the resident xbox controller salesman... almost worst than a used car salesman ./

NumOnePS3FanBoy3960d ago

What I find funny is that a lot of the xbox players emphasize "triggers... trigger. trig" because they only play shooters. It just goes to show that when they think the xbox controller is "superior" they are deluded by playing subpar games like COD

JsonHenry3960d ago

I honestly think that the xbox controller of THIS gen is more comfortable. I know it comes down to personal taste when judging ergonomics though. My brother has the same size hands as I do and he prefers the PS3 controller. However I have noticed that if I play with any controller (including my logitech PC gamepad) I get used them fairly quickly and "comfort" is an after thought because I forget I am even holding a gamepad while playing. Which I guess is a good thing.

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Majin-vegeta3961d ago

How do we know??We still havent gotten our hands on them.

xXBlondieVanHarlowXx3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

I'm guessing they want us to just wing it and take a wild guess. @_@ hmm...

Dualshock 4. It looks like a crazy futuristic video game controller (which it kinda is) :O Plus it has some awesome new features to fiddle around with. And the stick layout is just more my thing. I never liked the diagonal stick layout.

GusBricker3961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

Pretty much this.

Although, the left stick location is a big deal to a lot of gamers.

alb18993961d ago

All I can say is that we should wait.
How people can talk so much trash without know the facts.
Only after couple of months playing with both i will know.

Relientk773961d ago

If were talking most innovative and best design, hands down Dual Shock 4 , it looks frickin' awesome

Mystogan3961d ago

Both look the same as their predecessors...

X1 controller will be the most comfortable as always. Although there are some who prefer the Dualshock.

hellvaguy3960d ago

Its looks funny, like a stretch limo. Although it shud be more comfy for people with adult sized hands because its wider. Touchpad is a gimmick, not interested. Just meh 2 cents.

ThatCanadianGuy5143961d ago

One has a battery pack.The other was made in 2013.

PS4 wins this one by default.

Mystogan3961d ago

Again... How does not having removable battery something positive?

What do you do when the battery stops charging?

Lord_Sloth3961d ago

I guess we'll find out when my 7 year old conttroller finally stops holding a charge......I'll tell you as soon as that happens...

cee7733961d ago (Edited 3961d ago )

@mystogan

you open the controller and change the battery every 3+ years lol I cant believe were still debating this you can change the ds3 battery no problem so im sure it will be the same for the ds4

touchpad, speaker, non proprietary headphone jack, light bar, rubber grips tech-wise ds4 wins hands down

Angeljuice3961d ago

@Mystogan

You unscrew the back, unplug the battery, plug in the new battery and screw on the back again. The whole process takes under 2 minutes , but as most of the batteries outlast the life of the PlayStation, you seldom need to.

arkard3961d ago

Well neither of my ps3 controllers that I got since launch have stopped holding a charge so I don't see the problem.

Rockstar3961d ago

@Lord_Sloth

Excellent answer.
I have had my controllers since 06 with no issue.
+ bubs for common sense.

sAVAge_bEaST3960d ago

My lanch sixaxis, and my DS3 Controllers both still hold a long ass charge.. (remember,Microsoft isn't making this hardware, it's sony)

Horny3960d ago

Launch ps3 controllers still hold a charge. Guess how many battery packs I had to buy for my X box before I gave up and just leave them plugged in to the usb charger. Yes my wireless X box controllers are now wired because after buying a fourth battery pack I said screw it.
If you don't play your X box for a month or two and the controller doesn't get charged say bye to your battery.

With that said all these comments are irrelevant as is this article. Its trying to apply last Gen to next. People who have had time with each controller at e3 favored the new dual shock. Im mostly happy about X box lowering it's dead zone and increasing responsiveness which was my main problem with the original. Until I have tried both I'll reserve my judgement.

hellvaguy3960d ago

Holding a charge for 1-2 hours is not winning. Just sayin.

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GusBricker3961d ago

How long is the DS4's recharging cable?

The PS3's was like 3-4ft long.

Give me the option for batteries/battery pack any day over playing so close to the TV.

Angeljuice3961d ago

It charges in a little over an hour and lasts more than a day. Or you can buy a 10 ft usb cable for under $2. God, anyone would think it was rocket-science, are all Xbots this dumb?

GusBricker3961d ago

What do you think I'm talking about? Options.

And please, like you've never forgot to charge something.

Rockstar3961d ago

LOL

Charge your damn controllers!

Never been an issue.

You're looking for problems where none exist.

True_Samurai3961d ago

Actually you can plug up to the x1 controller with a USB cable and charge it now what?

arkard3961d ago

If you buy the rechargeable battery pack. Which I'm sure is proprietary M$ technology so I'm sure that alone will be 60$

jeffgoldwin3960d ago

@arkard

They are AA. So you can buy 3rd party rechargeable AA or even ms or 3rd party packs.

Total freedom>soldered in batteries.

PigPen3961d ago

That's nothing to celebrate when I look at how you had to charge the PS3 controller.

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strigoi8143961d ago

Havent touch and feel any of the two..so i cant tell

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7223h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle10h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning772h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga10h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21839h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga8h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan4h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus233h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv722h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10112h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos12h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-2h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac11h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10111h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead2h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 9h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken19h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 5h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 4h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 5h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 1h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 4h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 3h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 20h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 17h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 15h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 8h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 10h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 5h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 17h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 3h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 3h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger22m ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 19h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 19h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 16h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 18h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 17h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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