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Microsoft looking into playing games offline on Xbox One

The Xbox One may eventually work disconnected from the internet for more than 24 hours.

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Godmars2903986d ago

If they're going to make it playable offline, it has to be fully playable offline.

Still can't believe that they thought that was a good idea.

zeal0us3986d ago

I wouldn't get my hopes up

-Before E3
Major Larry: We're looking into players feedback

-E3
The Xbox needs to be connected at least once 24hr, used games restriction and you can only loan your games once.

Major Larry: Xbox is the future *avoids all the questions that involves drm, restrictions and requirements* *Gives generic PR answer to any hard question*

DragonKnight3986d ago

You watched the AngryJoe video didn't you?

I hated how any time the word DRM was brought up, Larry went into immediate salesman mode and said "you're not looking at the benefits."

DRM =/= Benefits.

Mikelarry3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

They keep saying DRM and benefits I ask what benefits does DRM have.

It does not help me enjoy the game any better just an inconvenience to hinder my experience just cause in the future ms will like a piece of that used fee pie. You know they gonna do it you will be naive to believe ms gives anything for free

SonyPS43986d ago

Nah, DRM=benefits...to MS and game publishers that is.

loulou3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

I should think that the pre-order tally is already begining to tel m$ what is going to happen if things dont change.

they have less than 5 months to change certain elements. if they dont, then i cant see them selling more than 30-35 mil consoles next gen.

stop the online checks, allow installs but make people keep the disc in the tray and going back to passes will give the xbox one a massive boost.

ofcourse keep on-line only games, or games that are going to use the cloud. but just advertise the fact.

the higher price tag although not great i can/will live with. but other people wont when put together with everything else above that i mentioned

Shane Kim3986d ago

It don't even benefit publishers. One of the top arguments against DRM is that publishers and so on spend millions on developing/expanding this DRM only to be hacked by some 15 year old russian kid.

badz1493986d ago

pfft...like playing offline is something new!

Ritsujun3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

Okay, they're looking into it.
I bet soon they'd reveal that they're extending the check-in to 48 hours or 7 days.

/lol

dedicatedtogamers3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

The Xbox One will not be able to play offline. It simply won't.

- the system is designed to play from the hard-drive after installing/downloading
- your library is designed to be shared with people in your "Family"
- the 24-hour check is to see if you traded the game disc (because you installed it to the HDD)

There are too many factors involved. In order to play offline, Microsoft would have to:
- change the system architecture to allow you to play straight from the disc (believe it or not, this isn't a simply line of code)
- forbid you from playing your game installs unless you are online
- forbid you from sharing your Library

Folks, the Xbox One is going to be how it is now. It may change a few months after launch, but it will never lose the 24-hour check-in.

no_more_trolling3986d ago

^^^

ever heard of firmware update?

no_more_trolling3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

double post

abzdine3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

I don't think they will and even if they do I already chose PS4! Sony first party games have no equal and third party will look better on it. On top of all this it's cheaper.
they did say that they built the machine for that so do you really expect them to change everything a few months before release? They also Said that they have expected this type of reaction from gamers and the media so do you still think their arrogance will stop suddenly?

Greatness awaits
4>1

loulou3985d ago

dedicatedtogamers

i honestly dont think that you know what you are talking about. it seems to me that you are hoping more than anything.

as no more trolling beat me to saying... a firmware update could resolve a multitude of issues.

indysurfn3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

They have actually been looking to do this for awhile now....FOR THE MILILTARY. And a few countries that have very little internet. That does not help most of the people that are right now on the internet complaining, now does it. Looking at this article they seem to be trying to confuse people into thinking it will allow 10 people to play the same game at once. No from the start you have to install a game and get online. If once you get online they find out it is on other machines. They will deactivate it from all but one of them. Don't be fooled again by this play on words. When you read that article remember the person being quoted is REDDIT then the second quote is Major Nelson. It is a sneaky way of presenting a questionnaire because most people are used to one side doing the quoting, and the other side doing the answering.

the ONLY THING major nelson actually said was:
"I’d have to check w/ the engineers, but I don’t see why that would not be possible."

Which was actually nothing because everyone knows it is "possible"! the real question is are the big wigs willing!!!

blind-reaper3985d ago

@DragonKnight that interview is pretty fucking amazing, I really recommend everyone to see it to know more about how MS is managing all this DRM thing.

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Why o why3986d ago

This is good. The noise must be getting to an unbearable level.. You can't ignore a crying baby for too long.

Well done to those who made noise in the right places. Even if ms only make a couple u turns it will be a great milestone for us consumers. It'll probably be written into business study textbooks....

Despite my pre ejaculation, I'm not sure how they can do this whilst always having to install games to the hdd. What are the workarounds?

HammadTheBeast3986d ago

Week-month long period before checking?

Cueil3986d ago

simple... by putting it on the users shoulders instead of shouldering it themselves... they could used a pass... only the pass in a one time code... to sell a game you would have to then select some option to get your key back and then give it to a friend or sell it. That or they could go with a authentication check were you only need to be online ONCE and then if you wanted to sell/loan/trade your game you would have to go back online to do that.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3986d ago

lol how do u look into it??? Just stop the bullsh!t!!! and it's over.

SilentNegotiator3986d ago

Because according to Microsoft, they don't know their own policies. Like when they announced 24 hour checks and played dumb for ~month.

BlindGuardian3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

This is just an attemp by a clever redditor to pit this guy against his own lies, they're not going to change anything because with an offline mode and no disc required to run games from HDD a single disc could be installed on hundreds of consoles and be playable from all of them at the same time.

Their standard line for the last few days has been that the 24hs check is so you can share your game library with your family, but that's just a lie, the check is to remove games from your Hard drive which show as sold on their data base, or hold all your games hostage until they can tell which ones you still own.

So this is just is logical question that he can't answer truthfully because an honest answer would conflict with the talking points he was given.

Rhaigun3986d ago

Exactly. Because, whether its a 24 hr check or a 120 hr check, its still a mandatory check.

koolaid2513986d ago

I've been connected to the internet for 18 years I even had Comcast broadband and Dsl at the same damn time one time lol.

blackmanone3986d ago

"I've been connected to the internet for 18 years I even had Comcast broadband and Dsl at the same damn time one time lol."

This mentality floors me, it really does. So you mean to tell the world that in 18 years, your internet has never gone down? Ever? Not once? You're lying to yourself and everyone on here.

LackTrue4K3986d ago

"the shamily plan" helps!!!
lol...

Cueil3986d ago

you don't see that as a benefit?

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kparks3986d ago

This is not them looking into changing anything lol... Someone askd a question and the PR guy didnt want to answer point blank!

ALLWRONG3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

MS made the mistake of misjudging the consumers desire, demand, right, or whatever to turn sh*t off when they damn well please.

Garbanjo0013986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

I say good luck, but the damage is done. Running an Xbox in offline mode is something that should have been implemented in the beginning, I say go for it if it means getting XBox off the ground, I highly doubt this will happen, either way Sony is hitting the bank big time with the PS4. I plan to keep posted on this in the next few months, I highly doubt the validity of this claim though. "Getting in touch with the engineers," is like saying "you're right, it's bullshit our bad . . . we need to fix this and this seems to be our loophole, so we don't look like complete f**king idiots here."

I am in no way supporting XBox, PS4 had me at "hello." Or had me at "$399." :)

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StoutBEER3985d ago

Oh god. They possibly change it and your STILL bitching. No use talking to you.

NewZealander3986d ago

if people truly want microsoft to pay attention then go comment on places like www.xboxshun.com etc.

my main concern is the online check in, i know plenty of people that dont have the internet, the DRM is also a huge concern, lucky i tend to not lend or buy second hand games, but i often rent a game before i decide to buy it.

but as a gamer i still see huge potential in both new consoles, only time will tell but MS has a matter of months to put this right, if not sales will take a hit, but no matter what the sales are im still getting both, im a gamer...i love tech, i hate fanboys.

mcstorm3985d ago

I agree with what your saying. To me nothing Microsoft have said about the Xbox one has me worded about getting the console. I have my 360 Wiiu ps3 and home server connected to the internet 24/7 and my internet has never been down for more than 24 hours.

I also never give my game to other people as the game I play tend to be games other people have to for mp and this is one thing that has changed alto this gen in terms of most people are buying the same games to play each other on.

But that said there will be people around the world who don't want there console on line or don't have the internet but that said I don't see people like this looking to buy a Xbox or Ps to. I also think looking at how many xboxs have been sold and how many people have gold shows most people who buy a Xbox also have the internet.

I do see Ms looking to change things a little though as there are some people who will not want to get a one because of these reasons but that said most people on here seem to be fan boys who want to rip into Microsoft when ever they can. For years now they have said they will always pick Sony because they don't charge for playing online but now Sony have said this they have gone quiet over it.

If anything the games industry is very fickle in terms of how its run and what happens.

If you look back to when the Wii 360 and ps3 came out people were up in arms about the ps3 price, having to install games and long load times and a very poor psn service.

Fast forward to now and Sony have improved things but so have Nintendo and also Microsoft.

I think things will change over the gen and just because people are not liking what a device is like now dose not mean they won't like it in 12 months time when changes are made ect.

For me Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft all have very good consoles to support all offer different ways to play games and are all looking to go in there own direction which to me is better for gamers then having 3 consoles all offering the Same games the same ways to play and the same services.

Halochampian3986d ago

The whole reason for the online checks (once per 24 hours automatically at night) is for the family sharing. It allows you and ten family/friends to share your library. It needs the check to be able and keep this updated because due to licencing issues they cant have all ten people playing the same copy of the game.

I know it is cumbersome for some. But for a majority of people, this will not effect them. The Xbone will auto-update during the night. And then they can play offline that day if they like.

If the family share plan does some really cool things, it may turn out to be worth it. Right now, it has potential but we will have to wait and see

nirwanda3985d ago

Too be slightly fair to MS most of the next gen games at E3 shown would require an internet connection to get the most out of them on both systems and making everyone be always on is the only way you could get the whole cloud computing thing to ever work.
I'm still getting a PS4 instead though just purely based on the gpu rumours/leaks/dev comments.

BallsEye3985d ago

I BET if they would make it playable offline, fanboys would find another thing to pick on, not looking at the good stuff at all (hello family game sharing!)

jmc88883985d ago

Well they are complete morons for even thinking of it. I think a bunch of 8th graders could of planned the Xbox One better, and they wouldn't of given it that crappy name either.

But if you look on Amazon you have PS4 packages garnering the 1,3,5,6,8th positions.

True Xbox One has #2, but that's ALL of it combined.

But people have pointed that out so I wanted to give you some other thoughts.

If the xbox one is selling so good....

Then why is the PS4 camera sold more than the top rated Xbox One game. That's right, more PS4 cameras then Forza 5. Sony hasn't even talked about the PS4 camera really.

PS4 has four games in the top 20. Xbox One has 0. Their best, again, is Forza at #22.

The funny thing is if you look on the right, the most 'wished for' thing is the Xbox One and 3rd most wished for is the PS4. Because obviously these were wishes from before the knowledge of what MS was trying to pull on its customers. Now that people know the downsides (drm, spying, etc). Know it's $100 more and yet the PS4 is also has 50-125 percent more raw power those wishes are not translating into sales.

Forza 5 is #22
Battlefield 4 is #28
Dead Rising is #31
Call of Duty is #33
Ryse is #36
Destiny on xbox is #47
Watch Dogs on xbox is #69
Kinect Sports: Rivals is #77
Titanfall on xbox is #99
Madden on xbox is not listed in top 100

On PS4
Watch Dogs is #11 (58 spots higher)
Battlefield 4 is #14 (14 spots higher)
Killzone Shadow Fall is #17
Desinty is #18 (29 spots higher)
Infamous Second Son #26
Call of Duty is #32 (1 spot higher)
Final Fantasy XV #41
Kingdom Hearts III #42
Knack is #56
The Order: 1886 is #63
Madden 25 #81
Fifa 14 #92

So as you can see here the PS4 games are selling much stronger. Games like Watchdogs, Destiny, and Battlefield 4 are selling much more on PS4.

PSN network cards are #7 and #12 compared to #15 and #16 for Xbox live.

Dual Shock 4 controllers is #9
Xbox one controller is #23

So in other words, at least for Amazon, PS4 is absolutely tearing a new asshole on the xbox one.

Thunderhawkxbox3985d ago

Who give a fuck about u Sony fan boy and amazon not only amazon selling games and hardware amazom it's not even accurate so F off and sit on ur fat ass and play your ps3 games

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fermcr3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

I agree. I find it unbelievable how Microsoft could commit so many errors with the Xbox One. They where in a great position with the X360 and completely fu**ed up their next gen console. Who the hell in Microsoft thought the X1 with it's restrictions was a brilliant idea ?

Microsoft has some serious thinking to do and i don't think there's time to radically change (improve) the X1 before release.

EDIT: First thing to do is change that stupid name... then remove those restrictions.

CerebralAssassin3985d ago

I just dont understand why you cant just pop the disc back in the system once the 24 hr period hits. The whole idea of installing the entire game onto cloud is great. Verification on you having a legit copy makes perfect sense. But if you miss the verification time table you should be able to prove you own that game by having a physical disc in your possession and should be able to put the disc in to verify authenticity. I dont knkw if its just me but this seems like the common sense answer to play games offline.

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ThatCanadianGuy5143986d ago

Don't count on it.These decisions were made years ago by higher ups then the xbox team.Redmond HQ gave the O.K and now we just have to #Dealwithit

NameRemoved00173986d ago

Or just buy a PS4 and dodge the entire failure of DRM and online always all together while getting an already superior console.

Software_Lover3986d ago

The only problem with your statement is it's not "always on line". Its check in once every 24 hours either by internet or mobile hotpot on your phone.

I dont agree with it either way, but just wanted to correct your statement.

DigitalRaptor3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

@ Software_Lover

There might be a distinct difference, but to the gamer and the consumer who this affects, it might as well be the same thing. It's basically saying that if you don't connect at least once every day for the rest of the Xbox One's lifecycle, you cannot play. To the people it concerns, the difference is non-existent because the concerns are identical.

koolaid2513986d ago

People forget that you can use the hot spot on your sell phone so basically you can play xbox 1 anywhere!!!

NameRemoved00173985d ago

@koolaid251 you going to pay $15 a month just so you can do that?

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vector4153986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

lol...always online is a killer for games. Look at Diablo 3. I know that game isn't that good, but one of the main reasons I think it didn't do well is because it's always online, no matter what, you cannot play it offline.

I remember the days of playing D2 offline on a laptop while I was somewhere with no internet connection...good times.

Now Xbox One says I can't do this. I am just really glad PS4 isn't going in the same direction! I am a life long Xbox fan who is probably going to buy a PS4 this time.

creepjack3986d ago

an online requirement has nothing to do with the reasons people dont like Diablo 3, lol.

HammadTheBeast3986d ago

Partially. A better example is sim city. Although its because they forced the game to work with always online, and the game play is sucky now.

vector4153986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

Yeah Sim City is a better example you're right. But I still stick to my Diablo 3 comment, because many gamers were REALLY pissed when they paid 60 bucks for a game they couldn't even play because of online issues. This wouldn't have happened if the game had an offline single player mode.

The point I'm trying to make is, I am sure a lot of gamers would prefer to have an option to play games offline if they wanted, and would be less likely to purchase a game or console that required for you to be online, or have to connect to the intrnet, just to play.

RavageX3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

Oops, what I had to say had already been said so...carry on.

fermcr3985d ago (Edited 3985d ago )

I agree, Diablo 3 is not very good, but saying Diablo 3 didn't do well ? Are you referring to sales ?
That game sold millions and millions of copies. More then 10 million the last i heard.

Gravitic3986d ago

Wait, so that guy I just sent my digital game to, would have it revoked when I decide to go in to offline mode. It doesn't make sense. What stops me authenticating, sending a copy and then going offline to get the other benefits.

Moonman3986d ago (Edited 3986d ago )

They got the word they f###'d up. haha

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk771d 11h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE1d 8h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7301d 8h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor1d 5h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos1d 5h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor1d 5h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos1d 5h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus233d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC2d ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled3d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies2d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k43d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot3d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC2d ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k42d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k42d ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody3d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead3d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast3d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19793d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead5d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel5d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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