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True_Samurai3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

Can't wait show me the goods Microsoft! 2hrs and 20min to go! (Central Time)
Lol disagrees Fanboys Tell Me Why You mad!

abzdine3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

All in One.. Input One

here's why..LOL

hulk_bash19873973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

Microsoft knows they're in trouble, press wise, since the reveal so I am pretty sure they will learn from it and rebound. My prediction is that E3 will probably be great across all platforms.

Well is 12am here so its time for me to catch some zzz's. Looking forward to waking up tomorrow and seeing what is in store for current and next gen. Good night/morning every one, Happy E3.

@Dev
Yup a good bloodbath always gets fanboys all riled up. haha

devwan3973d ago

@ hulk Well that would be fairly boring, I want a bloodbath and controversy and tons of jaw-dropping games ;)

Ritsujun3973d ago

All in one. FBI-friendly one.

DonFreezer3973d ago

This is not funny.You can call funny the fact that even if Sony f****d up your entire friends and family you would stilll support them so stop crying.

malokevi3973d ago

All in one? Sound like exactly what I want.

Give me some stellar games, and Im sold. Hell, Im already sold, because the games WILL be stellar!

Xbox, ON!

NewMonday3973d ago

this will be the first time I watch a snuff video ;p

hope my stomach can handle it

loulou3973d ago

metal gear looks awesome

NewMonday3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

It's so funny I get to watch PS4/PC game highlights in the MS conference.

MGS5 and Witcher3 blow my mind

edit:

as if we need other reasons

XB1= $500 USA, 500 euros, 430 UK pounds

audience was shocked! (but then the MS guy grimaced at a section of the crowd then the cheers started LOL!)

oh well, this seals the "no deal"

the "true" exclusives I will miss are Spark, World of Tanks, Quantum Break, D4 and Halo, but I will most likely just borrow an XBone for a summer to play them( and most likely pre-loaded and free XD)

Tyre3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

Nosebleed style, they didn't say a word about Kinect & the DRM. They hope to mesmorize everybody with the cool games and cancelled all 1:1 interviews hoping it will blow over, but that has nothing to do with the restrictions build into the system. The games looked cool, too bad. They had a chance too come with honesty and speak about the worries head on. The 'thank you gamers for making us money' to the gamers is also a way to not mention the backlash and make it look like the press is the fault of it all and 'We do not blame the gamers for the backlash'. Guess what? If they really were thankful for the community they would have made some consessions to the community and adressed the DRM & Kinect worries right away and admitting they are harsh. They make it look like they give a shit, but in fact they didn't say anything. They hope to make it look like it is just the same as before, but it is shamefully not.

NewMonday3973d ago

true XBox fans can pressure MS to turn things around, tweet them to change the following:

- XB1 must be playable TOTALLY off-line for non SP games, that includes stopping shoehorning online to the SP campaigns just to justify DRM.

- Kinect CANNOT be mandatory to operate the console, XB1 must be conveniently operational without the camera plugged-in.

- DATA COLLECTION must be FULLY DISCLOSED at the first startup of the console after initial purchase and the option to totally disable it MUST be given before starting, WITHOUT "reserving the right" to change the policy in the future.

- physical games must retain their purpose, "digital games" belong in the "digital store"

- the PRICE is EFFECTIVELY $600 if we include the cost of XBLGold, it must be $400 with a free year of Gold subscription.

we can live with the lower graphical power of the XB1 and even the ridiculously high price, the true exclusive games themselves are good, even if well short of the "15 exclusives" BS, but not anywhere close to make consumers give up their rights, if MS comply then they can turn the ship around.

BattleAxe3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

Microsoft had a pretty good conference. Games that impressed me:

- Ryse: Son of Rome
- MGS5
- The Witcher 3
- Battlefield 4 (so real looking it scared the crap out of me)
- Titanfall

If I were to ever buy an Xbor One, it would definitely be because of Ryse: Son of Rome, it looked amazing.

Biggest disappointment of the Xbox One conference, was seeing Ted Price come out on stage and saying that their new game was only possible on Xbox One. To top it off, the game looked like crap. Ted Price must be spending too much time in Washington State smoking the Ganja, because the decisions that he is making just don't make sense.

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VitaOwner3973d ago

I'm getting a PS4 but I'm still really excited for Microsoft's conference. Actually, I'm excited for every conference every E3 no matter what I have or am getting.

True_Samurai3973d ago

Now that's the way a true gamer talks :-)

vickers5003973d ago

Even if you don't like Microsoft, their press conference is bound to have some footage of some good multiplatform games, which should be at least one reason for everybody to be excited.

Another reason to get excited, is that Microsoft might bomb so hard that it's worth it just to see how hilariously bad it will be.

karl3973d ago

this is gonna be awesome.. im trying to find a pc to watch the conference... 20 minutes left at least

malokevi3973d ago

Both or bust. Haters will be missing out!

yeahokchief3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

As a Vita owner, PS+ subscriber and all around hater of social media devices/intrusive cameras in my living room/kinect...

I gotta admit TITANFALL looked BADASS. It looked more fun than Killzone Shadowfall. Kinda like a hybrid of Battlefield meets Mirrors edge with mechs.

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VitaOwner3973d ago

Yeh, there is no point in having a team. This generation I had an xbox 360 the entire generation until I bought a ps3 5 days ago. If it's a good game, I will play it.

Tacklebait3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

I bought a ps3 a year ago. Grab uncharted, god of war, infamous and heavy rain from the used games bin. So cheap... and sooooo goood.

I was in heaven for a good period of time after I picked up my ps3.

Edit.. where the hell did all my bubbles come from. I've been rocking 3 bubbles for ever!

Divine3973d ago

@yeahokchief better than killzone?? thats a bit much .lol. although im getting the ps4 i gottah say titan fall and ryse looks WICKED

r1sh123973d ago

I am looking forward to hear about the new IPs, but as much as I love my xbox 360 - I will not be buying the One in its current state.

And lets face it, the reveal was nothing short of a train wreck, which is exactly what I feel will happen here..
After the exclusive games are announced.
Imagine how much confusion there must be, if they cancelled the roundtable and exec face to face meetings.
Its a shame, because at certain points in the current gen MS did some great things :(

Atomicjuicer3973d ago

I'm actually considering skipping the conference because I don't want my games to stop working in a few years (when they eventually turn off the servers for older/less popular games).

But hey. If you want to celebrate the death of gaming - you're free to do so. Oh freedom, wait, that's another concept being threatened by xbox prism. Well, enjoy it while it lasts.

shadow27973973d ago

It doesn't matter what timezone you're in, it's still the same amount of time until the conference starts...

Chitown712913973d ago

Lmao I was gonna say the same thing

True_Samurai3973d ago

Yea I forgot to put 11:30 am that's what I meant by central time

Benjammin253973d ago

If you want to look forward to the potential death of console gaming, then fine. I won't get in your way.

Gildarts3973d ago

30 minutes left!! Come one Microsoft give us our games back!

#TeamXbox

kamakaz3md3973d ago

they dont have any, bahahaha...

CPTN MITCHELL3973d ago

Disagree don't equal that fanboys are mad we disagree cause ms has nothing to be exited about

metaltales493973d ago

I just got done watching it look like you going to have to wait a little longer to show all those "fanboys" that your 500 dollars xbox one isn't a piece of crap

Action GO FIGURE3973d ago

I'm really getting sick of this picture now.

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Tatsuya 3973d ago

Kinect games, haha yeah. It's coming and you know it!

Cherchez La Ghost3973d ago

Please don't defer my dreams... Hell, I'll say it... "I GOT SOME HOPE FOR YOU, MS"!! They need some at this point. I pray they'll kill the 24hr. DRM check. The military doesn't have internet everywhere they deployed at.

Tatsuya 3973d ago

you don't look like a fool. So I'll answer your dreams, It's not going to happen unless you take away their money!

yugovega3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

as a gamer you should hope they don't show kinect titles. kinect titles will sell the xbone to the masses. better hope for a bunch of titles noones ever heard of. if you are against ms's policies like almost everyone on this site.

@falviousuk
what are you talking about? i never said gamers are the ones not liking kinect games. gamers are the ones complaining about the policies ms are putting in place. if you don't want those to succeed then you shouldn't want the xbone to succeed hence you wouldn't want the masses getting on board. and it's no question the masses eat up kinect games. no fanboy meant. personally i enjoy kinect games and all motion games, i don't however enjoy being forced to check in online every day. to each their own.

falviousuk3973d ago

I'm a gamer and i enjoyed some of the kinect titles, such as kinect adventures, kinect sports and a few others.

Don't label everyone by your standards. Just because you do not like something, means that everyone should not like it.

malokevi3973d ago

I want to see kinect titles... HARDCORE kinect titles.... fingers crossed.

falviousuk3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

Having to connect online at least once every 24 hours does not bother me in the slightest, my xbox 360, (ps3 when i had one), imac, laptop, mobile phone are all constantly connected to the internet.

Im not bothered about the kinect always being on, however it can be turned of. And we never hear about anyone jumping up and down regarding their mobile phone having an integrated camera, or their laptops having a built in camera.
I never rent games, so again, that doesnt bother me. I do occasionally buy used games, but it appears as though we can still do this with the xbox one, still need all the details though regarding exactly how it will work.

All in all, the games look great, the system looks sleek, im looking forward to seeing how much better kinect 2.0 is and what they do with it.

All in all a good conference from MS.

koolaid2513973d ago

So was the Playstation move an epic fail? Did they make any money off of it?

GameSpawn3973d ago

PlayStation Move never really failed nor succeeded. Sony's approach to the Move has always been a "it's there" approach; this seems to be continuing with the PS4.

There aren't too many Move-only (Move-required) games. There are TONS of Move-compatible games, but in every one of them Move is optional; some work better with Move than others, but if you don't have a Move controller there is nothing preventing you from playing with just a normal controller.

However there is a different story with Microsoft's Kinect where just about EVERY Kinect game is Kinect-only. Kinect was literally shoved down 360 owners throats and Kinect 2.0 is being shoved as well. We'll see what games they announce in a couple hours, but don't be surprised by overwhelming support for Kinect games because every Xbox One has a Kinect included.

VISUAL-ANT33973d ago

GameSpawn's comment is so fanboy fueled I had to laugh along with all the agrees that followed, pretty sad. Kinect was supported because it sold a ton. How was it shoved down your throat? Did your Xbox 360 not function without it, or was it because there were a lot of options and games? I didn't know that was a bad thing.
Sony's Move was a failure since nobody bought it hence no support or games. I guess when you're a fanboy you can sugarcoat anything to make it not seem so bad. Have fun with your colored ping pong ball wannabe Wii/Kinect device.

Cherchez La Ghost3973d ago

@Valentinus

LoL!! Well I won't be asking nothing from you on Christmas! Dreambreaker!! LoL!! Today is going to be very interesting. If they do Kinect, the need some core games for it.

Gildarts3973d ago (Edited 3973d ago )

i bet my ass they're not going to show more then 2 games that are 100% kinect.

I have faith in them lol

wait how come i have 5 bubbles?

Probably because N4G want the conversations to last post E3.

dark-hollow3973d ago

And ZERO kinect only games were shown.

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urwifeminder3973d ago

Starts at 2am here will stay up for sure crash around 4am I will just catch up on Nintendo and any pc announcements.

Locksus3973d ago

I'm going to watch this conference, sure, but I'm honestly not expecting much from it.
The thing is, the games could be the best ones ever made, but the console and its restrictions are putting a lot of gamers off, and I hope MS will notice that. It cannot possibly be good for the company
Vote with your wallets, people!

Hanso3973d ago

well said and i agree good games dont change a thing

Gazondaily3973d ago

Spoken like a true gamer.....oh no wait.....

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 6h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle17h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188114h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio14h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning779h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga17h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv723h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

shinoff218316h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga15h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan11h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit3h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus239h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv729h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

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purple10119h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos19h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-9h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac18h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10118h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic16h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead9h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere2d ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN2d ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 22h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 15h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 16h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 12h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger2d ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 10h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 10h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger7h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto2d ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos2d ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 23h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel2d ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator2d ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10113d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218312d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos12d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai13d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197213d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197213d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218312d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto12d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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