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Major Nelson: Policies are still being finalized

Xbox Live director of programming responds about policy decisions.

NeverEnding19894011d ago

a.k.a. we got so much flak that we're going back to the drawing board.

Great!

FAT MAN GO BOOM4011d ago

Yeah you are right, That feed back was to over whelming and they are just back peddling...

When they had all the messages so confused. PR would say one thing, one executive would say one thing than another would say something different...

I think they were testing the waters... make things worst than they seem and see what is the worst thing they could get away with....

Fee for games on the same box but a different user account... Crazy right... Bit when E3 comes and they say well a small fee for used games... game is tied to just the system now matter which account on the system is being used... game will still play....

Than people will say oh well thats not so bad.... lol....

MikeMyers4011d ago (Edited 4011d ago )

Sony was also vague. What we have here are publishers like EA trying to change those policies. Things are likely to be worse for Microsoft because some of those policies will have to deal with cable providers. They are worse to deal with than game publishers.

Sony made these same exact comments, they too are waiting before finalizing used games and how they will be utilized. This is one big cluster**** but we will know the full details well before these systems get released. In typical Internet forum fashion the world is ending yet again.

gaffyh4010d ago

@mike- Sony will not block used games, trust me. Not blocking it will mean that consumers will be way happier, and importantly retailers will be way happier, meaning more promotion for the PS4 over the Xbox in stores. Microsoft have basically handed the generation to Sony on a silver platter if they play their cards right.

MikeMyers4010d ago

gaffyh, why should I trust you? They were also very vague on the exact details. They too are trying to finalize everything. Something is going on behind the scenes we don't know about yet. Sony also adopted online passes so it's not something out of reach for them to do something that locks the content to your account.

Ashlen4011d ago (Edited 4011d ago )

No they won't. This is a stalling tactic.

"0box' will block used game sales.

The money and agreements made with publishers will not allow them to deviate from the course they have already agreed to in backroom deals.

dedicatedtogamers4011d ago

Because they totally went back to the drawing board after the Adam Orth #dealwithit debacle...

...oh wait.

stuna14011d ago

We all saw how fast they got rid of his azz! Then look at the incident with the guy who had the dev. kit! The FBI became involved.

The imformation from those 2 sources was pretty accurate, and they were silenced.

Microsoft is known for underhanded tactics, that why I never take anything they say for face value.

Seeing is believing.

Sky_Walker4011d ago

This is good news and this is why people should not be defensive about negative XB1 articles.

Social media reception and gaming websites input on the XB1 has a huge impact on what MS showed and trust me they are listing and reading.

Hopefully this current used game thing can get more attention and reach big names like CNN and BBC so MS can change it at E3.

stuna14011d ago

How are they going to change it if it's built into the console? This is not something that happened overnight! This is something that they have been planning potentially this whole generation.

For all we know it could of been them that actually came up with season passes and used games multiplayer codes! They have been bedfellows with EA for quite some time.

Sky_Walker4011d ago (Edited 4011d ago )

@Stunna - You are correct...well in any case I think MS just loss at least 40% of its fanbase with this no use games policy.

The scary thing is that what if MS had discussed this with all of the major gaming publishers before hand...if names like Konami, Capcom, Ubi Soft, Bethesda, Take-Two, EPIC and many more all ok'd MS to do this then this could mean that Sony might not have an option but to do the same as publishers will want to show the XB1 more love because thats where the revenue is at.

Remember Sony said it was up to the developers to block used games so we might be looking at the death of used games next gem :(

maniacmayhem4010d ago

@Skywalker

About your third party comment, I also believe this is true. Sony may have no choice but to go the same route since 99% of the big publishers and devs want to kill used games anyways.

It really is a shame if this turns out to be true.

The policies that maybe Nelson is referring too might be the other story of Indies not being able to publish their own game which makes absolutely no sense when Nintendo and Sony are allowing it. Hopefully, maybe, they can at least change that and save some face.

wantonGamer4011d ago (Edited 4011d ago )

Not really.

They're just saying this to calm people down so that the negative responses don't bury the new XBox before it hits the stores even.

Eldyraen4011d ago (Edited 4011d ago )

Unfortunately that is partly true--on the actual gaming side of things there isn't much to write about other than the negatives. Remedy news was great but that trailer can't carry the rest of the show (and inevitable third party corporate partners are nothing special).

majiebeast4011d ago

If they have a deal in place with EA they cant backpedal.

Cueil4011d ago

no... I think it's really in flux... to many people have said to many things

3-4-54010d ago

They are playing games with us and using us as a test. It's pathetic really. I expected more from Microsoft and the Xbox One.

These 8 unknown games better be awesome for me to even consider now.

I love the controller, but if focus isn't on gaming then I'm out.

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ThatCanadianGuy5144011d ago

a.k.a we have no idea what we're doing.

Prcko4011d ago

I thought they are 6 months behind schedule,after yesterday,they are a whole generation behind.

Conan-O-Brady4011d ago (Edited 4011d ago )

Funny stuff and so true, Have a bubble.

cleft54011d ago

If I have to pay to play a used game on the Xbox One, then that is One less console for me to buy.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk771d 14h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE1d 11h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7301d 11h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor1d 8h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos1d 8h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor1d 8h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos1d 7h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus233d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC2d ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled3d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies2d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k43d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot3d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC2d ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k42d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k42d ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody3d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead3d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast3d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19793d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead5d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel5d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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