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The Wii U sold 3.45 million units last year, way under the estimated 5.5 million

Gamasutra: "Although Nintendo was able to swing back to profits for the 2012 fiscal year, the company ended up recording only half of its previously forecasted income."

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majiebeast4451d ago (Edited 4451d ago )

Congrats to the retired DS you gave me some awesome games!

Sadly software ratio for the 3DS is only 1:3 lets hope their fall line up can change that cause it aint good.

Theyellowflash304451d ago

What are you talking about? The software ratio for the 3DS is fine. Reggie Fils Aime was just bragging about how well the 3DS software is doing.
http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

Are you counting digital sales in there?

majiebeast4451d ago (Edited 4451d ago )

Official graph with digital sales included.

https://i.minus.com/i3WYZGV...

@Kirbyu

Fiscal year which ends 31st March. So from launch in November till 31st March 2013.

bicfitness4451d ago

Its not doing fine. And I'm sure that if Nintendo is listing their own internal figures, they are including downloadable, retail copies games. For the record the 3DS has missed every one of its forecasts too.

LOL_WUT4451d ago

Nintendo is definitely not doing good. A price cut should take care of this problem momentarily, at least till they get their act together and release more games. ;)

Unknow_Master4451d ago

hey lol_wut your mama had a price cut and she still doesnt get played. so do you really think the wiiu need one.

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Theyellowflash304451d ago

So if Nintendo isn't doing good with 7 Billion in profit, 99 million Wii's sold, 153 million DS's sold, 31 million 3DS sold, and 3.5 million Wii U's sold with no big first party titles out... how is Sony doing?

AsimLeonheart4451d ago

You forgot to mention 7 billion YEN which is equal to only $71.4 million of net profit. Even that was due to the favourable exchange rate. The yen depreciated so every dollar earned converted into more yens than usual. Moreover, the profit fell short of the forecast by 49%. Finally the company had an operating loss of 36.4 billion yen which is equal to $366 million dollar! Investors are concerned about operating profits more because it is the profit from core operations. The net profit includes "interest earned" and "other income" which add to the profit but are not related to the business in any way. How come you forgot all this information in your post?

kirbyu4451d ago

Wait. Last year? You mean the one month it was out?

GameArmada4451d ago

No - this refers to the fiscal year ended March 31, rather than a regular year

SilentNegotiator4451d ago

They may as well have meant that, since less than 1/2 million is from the entire 2013 timeframe.

If Nintendo hadn't lied so hard about Wii U being sold out, I wonder how few units they would have sold.

kirbyu4451d ago

They weren't really sold out?

Why would Nintendo say they were then? How would they benefit from that?

PopRocks3594451d ago

Ah yes, anything that doesn't penetrate that bubble of yours must mean that the producer was lying all along. Those fiends! Death to Nintendo!

Seriously, there were several reports from Nintendo and retailers talking about Wii U hardware being sold out during the first week of launch. But for some reason the possibility of the Wii U selling out week one and then being restocked more rapidly than the original Wii doesn't seem to resonate in your mind.

SilentNegotiator4451d ago (Edited 4451d ago )

"Why would Nintendo say they were then? How would they benefit from that?"

The benefit is getting people panicked into thinking that they need to rush out and get one. Creating false demand is an old, effective marketing trick.

@PopRocks
"Seriously, there were several reports from Nintendo and retailers talking about Wii U hardware being sold out during the first week of launch"

Wowie! An entire week!?

daclynk4451d ago

Good to know its sold well during that time.i cant blame them cos they are not enough first party games out yet. Congrats to them.

Good_Guy_Jamal4451d ago

Seems all the analysts were wrong about the big N posting a loss. Never count Nintendo out people, you'd think we'd know this by now.

zeal0us4451d ago (Edited 4451d ago )

It is a loss, 2million consoles didn't get sold that were expected to sell.

"The negative impact of the Nintendo Wii U launch also took its toll on the company's profits, with operating losses of 36.4 billion yen ($366.0 million) as a result. The depreciation of the yen was also blamed."

I'm not counting Nintendo out, but I can say they are off rougher start than MS&Sony with the 360 and PS3. Not only that but Nintendo seem to be having a hard getting families who brought the Wii over to the WiiU.

bicfitness4451d ago

The only reason why they posted a profit is because the yen has depreciated so much. So when they have billions of dollars in US banks, when converted to yen they make a "profit".

Economics are fun.

Ck1x4451d ago

I hope you know that you argument does go both ways and when the Yen is strong, that to has a magnifying effect on losses that these companies report. So you can't diminish the reason on one hand and then support it in another...

justiceot4451d ago

Your construction of this observation is terribly flawed. The exchange rate for yen to usd in recent months was 95 yen to a dollar, compared to 85 yen to a dollar in the previous year. Are you telling us that this relatively small depreciation of about 10% would yield 7.1 billion yen in profits? It doesn't make sense, does it?

So here's the main reason: Nintendo benefited from the depreciation as the goods are relatively cheap to buy from other countries' perspective/ using other currencies.

To be honest, I'm a little disturbed seeing all these unsubstantiated statements floating around the internet and, worst of all, having people agree with them.

Here's a link to backup what I've just said: m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-2227 5843

bicfitness4451d ago (Edited 4451d ago )

Google YEN to US dollar conversion. You have no idea what you're talking about justiceot. 1 dollar = 100 yen. So when the yen DEPRECIATES, even 15%, 1 dollar can equal 85 YEN. Therefore the same amount of US money is SUDDENLY WORTH SIGNIFICANTLY MORE YEN. WHICH IS WHAT NINTENDO REPORTS THEIR FINANCIALS IN.

And now multiply that by billions in US cash and yes, you can get upwards of billions of YEN, easily.

Economics.

P.S. Its not "unsubstantiated", any respectable analyst has said the same thing. Its the fanboys that don't want to hear the truth.

P.S.S. Your link it to some dead article on BBC Sports. Not sure what you're aiming at there.

justiceot4451d ago (Edited 4451d ago )

@bicfitness

In all honesty, I'm not any sort of "fanboy" ,but just a concerned passerby. It's ludicrous: You claiming to be educated in economics. Well, I shall argue no more. But bring this up to any economist, he will shoot your opinion down with immediacy.

Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/b...

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PS4isKing_824451d ago

Ppl have to remember that those are amazing numbers for a console that has VERY little games for it at the moment. Just wait till the fall when the really big games start coming out. Once ppl see the new first party games come out, sales will explode. Me, I don't care about sales that much, I just want the amazing games that nintendo is gonna give us soon.

Go Nintendo!! :D

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While Layoffs Hit the Industry, Nintendo Retains 98% of Staff Including 78 With Disabilities

TNS: Based on its most recent ESG data, Nintendo boasts a remarkably low staff turnover rate of just 1.9%, with virtually no reported layoffs.

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Jin_Sakai3d ago

Because Nintendo makes great games.

Yesyes2d ago

It’s unreal that people are downvoting this when they consistently have the best scoring games on metacritic.

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rlow12d ago

Well it doesn’t surprise me. As much money as they make and how they value their employees. It’s a great company in that regard.

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drivxr2d ago

Well, when your games remain full price many years after release.

And you make profit off of outdated hardware.

I would be shocked if they couldn't afford to retain their staff.

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I didn't want to say anything but drivxr is right.

Nintendo always sells at a profit because they purposely use tech that's always 5 or more years behind. And it's also true their games hardly ever get price decreases.

Don't get me wrong, it's great they kept most of their workforce, but making a point to have your tech specs behind everyone else affords that luxury.

Darkegg2d ago

I don’t think it’s their purpose to use old tech. It’s their purpose to make value of software and know their value. Nobody makes games like them that’s for sure. I just don’t appreciate their customer unfriendly policy.

It’s not impossible to take their status. Companies need to have a selection of 8-bit and 16-bit. Now imagine a split screen for 8 player game for SNES Mario kart and selling at $9.99. The problem is that it doesn’t make profit. So many companies won’t invest in “old” technology. Everyone guns for triple AAA modern technology software but honestly we can enjoy modernized 16-bit creative ideas that allows 8-player mayhem. It’s a pipe dream, possible but impossible.

Shane Kim2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

If they ended up kicking people out after all of that stated above, it would be truly shameful.

DivineHand1252d ago

Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Tesla and Meta are all trillion dollar companies yet they are laying people off in large numbers.

I believe the reason Nintendo layoffs off less workers may be a result of their culture. It seems Japanese companies believe in giving their workers long term or life long employment opportunities and will exhaust all options before laying off workers. This is something we don't see much of in the west unfortunately.

Rdeal2d ago

might be something to do with the fact all those companies hire more than 20x the employees than Nintendo

LoveSpuds2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

What the hell are you talking about? It has nothing to do with how profitable they are. Its completely cultural, MS and Sony make stacks of cash and still lay folks off. Nintendo chose not to lay off staff for the same reason their execs took pay cuts to increase staff pay instead; because they value their staff and view them as colleagues, and respect them as such.

If Sony weren't so US centric I fancy they'd fare better too, they should get shot of US and European leadership and go back to when Japanese execs were running the show if you ask me!

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Nintendo Switch 2 sales shatters records, most-sold console in 24-hour period

The Nintendo Switch 2 has set a new record by selling over 3 million units within 24 hours, tripling the PlayStation 4’s previous launch day sales.

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Jin_Sakai23d ago

Crazy. Switch 2 is going to do very well.

darthv7223d ago (Edited 23d ago )

No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.

The number of SW2 specific titles pales in comparison to the variety of SW1 games that get a performance boost right out of the box on this. And like the SX and PS5 before it, you can bet the majority are going to be using it as a means to better enjoy their existing titles that can benefit.

This may have been quick out of the gate... so was the WiiU. I quite enjoy it for what it is, but am keeping my expectations in check.

GenoPurpel23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

The Switch 2’s price point is great and fine and it’s still cheaper than the current gen of consoles aside from the Series S.

The only place I think they will fall short is their software sales, which also in turn may affect the hardware sales but not significantly. Parents will be fine paying for the system for their kids, but one look at an $80-$90 price tag for a single video game, that is where a lot of people will draw the line. Maybe not so much the people who are in the “willing to pay because I buy deluxe editions anyway” crowd, but for parents specifically, more sacrifices are gonna need to be made in their choices of gifts for their kids.

OtterX23d ago

As a parent of 3 with a very modest income, it was very affordable bc I already had an immense library of games, and the Mario Kart bundle came out to only about €50 more than a standard bundle. Both Zeldas were upgraded w Family Expansion Pass that I already had. Many games were upgraded for free. The only additional game I bought was Fast Fusion for 14.99 which was a great purchase!

Killer2020UK23d ago

People seem to forget that the Switch was $299 at launch which in today's money is roughly $400. That makes the Switch 2 a $50 increase when inflation is taken into account compared to the original.

Yes, people have less spending power on average compared to 2017 (Switch launch year) but this is not the MASSIVE price hike that people are making out Nintendo to be doing.

raWfodog23d ago

“No doubt, but.... the current price is out of the realm of the average parent / kid to buy like the SW1 was. So this launch achievement is from those of us with more disposable income.”

It could also be many people rushing to buy to avoid any possible tariff hikes in the future, but I think it’s still a good sign that many people still want physical consoles. Congrats to Nintendo! I’m not getting one at this time though (unless I get it for a Xmas present for one of my kids).

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1Victor23d ago

Congratulations Nintendo on finding the happy medium between their weak console and their invincible handheld plus learning from Sony and clearly defining the new console from the old unlike their Wii and Wii U just add a higher number simple yet effective 👍👍

victorMaje23d ago

Are people that keen on $90 games?
Is it true some remasters will also be $90?

DankSinatra23d ago

Tell me you don't research without telling me you don't research.

victorMaje23d ago

Nope. I didn’t research, I don’t own any Nintendo consoles and I had read on here something about $90 games on switch 2, so I guess it’s good now, people can calm down. Have a nice day :)

1nsomniac23d ago

I bought the Switch 2 I won’t be buying games at MK prices. I don’t ever pay over £45 for my games. Even my Nintendo switch exclusives I never paid more than £33 for.

franwex23d ago

I think the typo you put was meant to be $80.
Anyway, the answer to those questions seem to be yes.

victorMaje23d ago

Looks like I’ve been enlightened about the amount. Happy to see it’s not $90.

Sgt_Slaughter21d ago

Don't get your news from clickbait TikTokers/YouTubers, only go to the source (Nintendo) or reliable new outlets like IGN.

No game is $90 on the Switch 2, and they will never go there. Most games will be under $80, too.

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gold_drake23d ago

cool
wasnt expecting it not to sell well

Profchaos23d ago

Its crazy that it's both the highest selling console on day 1 and people can walk into a store and buy it with no pre order

Ashunderfire8623d ago

Yup while I was waiting in line from Best Buy for Switch 2, like I did for Switch 1 back in 2017, every waiting 12am was going to get a Switch 2! I was in the no preorder line too!

My friend manage to get 4 Switch 2s at his GameStop store, that was lowkey not busy at all. Got them all for himself and his family. Super easy to get a Switch 2 over PS5.

Profchaos23d ago

The struggle to get a ps5 was real had mates wait over 2 years for stock i got lucky and got it day 1 but still

Ashunderfire8623d ago

I know and I also struggled getting a preorder for the PS5, when Walmart, Best Buy among other retailers open their preorders a day early before most of us realize it. I got my PS5 launch day thanks to YouTube Live Streamer Jake Randell. He helps people get preorders and launch consoles.

Neonridr22d ago

the PS5 also released during a global pandemic.

Ashunderfire8622d ago

It’s funny how I got disagrees for speaking the truth for what I experienced getting the Switch 2. Nintendo had more copies of Switch 2 than Sony for the PS5.

Don’t be butthurt about this very fact. People on here disagreeing with crazy reasons lol

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hiawa2323d ago

Doesn't that mean Nintendo made sure they had plenty of stock available at retail.

Profchaos23d ago

Yeah it's nice to see they prepped for it

adamwparker23d ago

Yeah, I remember reading an article over two years ago with Nintendo stating that they were going to do all that they could to make sure their next console didn't have the PS5/XBox reseller swiping /no stock fiasco happen to them.

Looks like they made sure production met demand. Refreshing to see that the reseller thing didn't trend and I hope a lot of people who bought multiple units for the sole reason to resell then at $1000 are now stuck with them.

jznrpg23d ago

It also means there isn’t a chip shortage when PS5/Xbox came out during pandemic

gold_drake23d ago

to be where fair, we had a current gen come out during covid ha

repsahj23d ago (Edited 23d ago )

I remembered I tried 7 pre-order events during the PS5 launch. I gave up and ended up buying 1 from a scalper. But now, I already secured 1 pre-order Switch 2 unit in my country very easy and without problems.

Neonridr22d ago

kudos to Nintendo for ensuring a healthy amount of stock.

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Terry_B23d ago

Unlike the Switch 2 , the Playstation 4 was not sold on the same day in most regions.

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Nintendo Has Confirmed It Will Be Attending GamesCom 2025

Company skipped last year's event.

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Obscure_Observer43d ago

Not surprising at all.

I mean, they´ll be releasing a new console in a few weeks.

repsahj41d ago

I hope they show new Switch 2 exclusive games.