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The Wii U sold 3.45 million units last year, way under the estimated 5.5 million

Gamasutra: "Although Nintendo was able to swing back to profits for the 2012 fiscal year, the company ended up recording only half of its previously forecasted income."

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majiebeast4034d ago (Edited 4034d ago )

Congrats to the retired DS you gave me some awesome games!

Sadly software ratio for the 3DS is only 1:3 lets hope their fall line up can change that cause it aint good.

Theyellowflash304034d ago

What are you talking about? The software ratio for the 3DS is fine. Reggie Fils Aime was just bragging about how well the 3DS software is doing.
http://www.gamesindustry.bi...

Are you counting digital sales in there?

majiebeast4034d ago (Edited 4034d ago )

Official graph with digital sales included.

https://i.minus.com/i3WYZGV...

@Kirbyu

Fiscal year which ends 31st March. So from launch in November till 31st March 2013.

bicfitness4034d ago

Its not doing fine. And I'm sure that if Nintendo is listing their own internal figures, they are including downloadable, retail copies games. For the record the 3DS has missed every one of its forecasts too.

LOL_WUT4034d ago

Nintendo is definitely not doing good. A price cut should take care of this problem momentarily, at least till they get their act together and release more games. ;)

Unknow_Master4034d ago

hey lol_wut your mama had a price cut and she still doesnt get played. so do you really think the wiiu need one.

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Theyellowflash304034d ago

So if Nintendo isn't doing good with 7 Billion in profit, 99 million Wii's sold, 153 million DS's sold, 31 million 3DS sold, and 3.5 million Wii U's sold with no big first party titles out... how is Sony doing?

AsimLeonheart4033d ago

You forgot to mention 7 billion YEN which is equal to only $71.4 million of net profit. Even that was due to the favourable exchange rate. The yen depreciated so every dollar earned converted into more yens than usual. Moreover, the profit fell short of the forecast by 49%. Finally the company had an operating loss of 36.4 billion yen which is equal to $366 million dollar! Investors are concerned about operating profits more because it is the profit from core operations. The net profit includes "interest earned" and "other income" which add to the profit but are not related to the business in any way. How come you forgot all this information in your post?

kirbyu4034d ago

Wait. Last year? You mean the one month it was out?

GameArmada4034d ago

No - this refers to the fiscal year ended March 31, rather than a regular year

SilentNegotiator4034d ago

They may as well have meant that, since less than 1/2 million is from the entire 2013 timeframe.

If Nintendo hadn't lied so hard about Wii U being sold out, I wonder how few units they would have sold.

kirbyu4034d ago

They weren't really sold out?

Why would Nintendo say they were then? How would they benefit from that?

PopRocks3594034d ago

Ah yes, anything that doesn't penetrate that bubble of yours must mean that the producer was lying all along. Those fiends! Death to Nintendo!

Seriously, there were several reports from Nintendo and retailers talking about Wii U hardware being sold out during the first week of launch. But for some reason the possibility of the Wii U selling out week one and then being restocked more rapidly than the original Wii doesn't seem to resonate in your mind.

SilentNegotiator4034d ago (Edited 4034d ago )

"Why would Nintendo say they were then? How would they benefit from that?"

The benefit is getting people panicked into thinking that they need to rush out and get one. Creating false demand is an old, effective marketing trick.

@PopRocks
"Seriously, there were several reports from Nintendo and retailers talking about Wii U hardware being sold out during the first week of launch"

Wowie! An entire week!?

daclynk4034d ago

Good to know its sold well during that time.i cant blame them cos they are not enough first party games out yet. Congrats to them.

Good_Guy_Jamal4034d ago

Seems all the analysts were wrong about the big N posting a loss. Never count Nintendo out people, you'd think we'd know this by now.

zeal0us4034d ago (Edited 4034d ago )

It is a loss, 2million consoles didn't get sold that were expected to sell.

"The negative impact of the Nintendo Wii U launch also took its toll on the company's profits, with operating losses of 36.4 billion yen ($366.0 million) as a result. The depreciation of the yen was also blamed."

I'm not counting Nintendo out, but I can say they are off rougher start than MS&Sony with the 360 and PS3. Not only that but Nintendo seem to be having a hard getting families who brought the Wii over to the WiiU.

bicfitness4034d ago

The only reason why they posted a profit is because the yen has depreciated so much. So when they have billions of dollars in US banks, when converted to yen they make a "profit".

Economics are fun.

Ck1x4034d ago

I hope you know that you argument does go both ways and when the Yen is strong, that to has a magnifying effect on losses that these companies report. So you can't diminish the reason on one hand and then support it in another...

justiceot4034d ago

Your construction of this observation is terribly flawed. The exchange rate for yen to usd in recent months was 95 yen to a dollar, compared to 85 yen to a dollar in the previous year. Are you telling us that this relatively small depreciation of about 10% would yield 7.1 billion yen in profits? It doesn't make sense, does it?

So here's the main reason: Nintendo benefited from the depreciation as the goods are relatively cheap to buy from other countries' perspective/ using other currencies.

To be honest, I'm a little disturbed seeing all these unsubstantiated statements floating around the internet and, worst of all, having people agree with them.

Here's a link to backup what I've just said: m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-2227 5843

bicfitness4034d ago (Edited 4034d ago )

Google YEN to US dollar conversion. You have no idea what you're talking about justiceot. 1 dollar = 100 yen. So when the yen DEPRECIATES, even 15%, 1 dollar can equal 85 YEN. Therefore the same amount of US money is SUDDENLY WORTH SIGNIFICANTLY MORE YEN. WHICH IS WHAT NINTENDO REPORTS THEIR FINANCIALS IN.

And now multiply that by billions in US cash and yes, you can get upwards of billions of YEN, easily.

Economics.

P.S. Its not "unsubstantiated", any respectable analyst has said the same thing. Its the fanboys that don't want to hear the truth.

P.S.S. Your link it to some dead article on BBC Sports. Not sure what you're aiming at there.

justiceot4034d ago (Edited 4034d ago )

@bicfitness

In all honesty, I'm not any sort of "fanboy" ,but just a concerned passerby. It's ludicrous: You claiming to be educated in economics. Well, I shall argue no more. But bring this up to any economist, he will shoot your opinion down with immediacy.

Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/b...

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PS4isKing_824034d ago

Ppl have to remember that those are amazing numbers for a console that has VERY little games for it at the moment. Just wait till the fall when the really big games start coming out. Once ppl see the new first party games come out, sales will explode. Me, I don't care about sales that much, I just want the amazing games that nintendo is gonna give us soon.

Go Nintendo!! :D

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Game Developers Have Begun Confirming Nintendo Switch 2 Support

Game developers have already started to confirm that they will support the Nintendo Switch 2 with their future titles.

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How Many More Victims, Like Garry's Mod, Will Nintendo's Hurtful Crusade Create?

Hanzala from eXputer: "As Nintendo takes out 20 years' worth of stuff from Garry's Mod, I watch in shock, thinking why it continues to hurt and discourage its fans."

RiseNShine6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

The irony that some of the most disgusting business practices come from companies like Disney or Nintendo, i can't even begin to understand what terrible damage was Garrys Mod making to Nintendo bottom line, imho they're getting pretty nervous about where they're heading in the future, handhelds are no longer something exclusive to Nintendo, from Steam Deck to many others, now you can play the latest games and pay a fraction of the price on Steam sales, so it's up to their exclusives, which just on their own would make hard to justify purchasing a closed overpriced hardware with outrageous price policies (Super Mario Odyssey is still 60 euro 6 years later!), and as a home console they're always underperforming compared to Sony or Xbox.

gold_drake6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

i cam guarantee you, that their exclusives alone is what drives switch sales. they sell in the 10s of millions of copies.

nintendo created their franchises to be sort of nostalgia driven, exclusive only on nintendo.

people will always buy the pkmn games as they always bring in new younger fans amd is family friendly

mario kart, the same thing, mario games in general.

zelda games are system sellers. animal crossing for the casual gamers.

nintendo doesnt need third vame devs essentially. they made sure with the switch and the limitations that they looked more to pc ps and xbox.

its sad, but nintendo is more than fine with what they're doing. they positioned themselves to appeal to the more casual gamers.

but to your point, im not sure why they're doing this rly.

Inverno6d ago

Look at how they handled Nintendo games being streamed or uploaded on YouTube in the past. They killed Yuzu and Citra even when they had nothing to do with ToTK being leaked, not to mention it was basically unplayable on emulation the week it was leaked. Smash Bros tournament, that was fairly recent. They shut down their online services without any care for purchases made. I bought a switch after skipping their last 2 consoles and handhelds but I don't plan on buying anything Nintendo in the future. They take things to the extremes, they legitimately hate their fans. They're honestly right up there with the likes of Acti, EA, and Ubi, only difference is that they disguise themselves as being family friendly all the while being shady.

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."