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Analyst predicts 11 million next-gen consoles sold by 2014

Over 11 million next-generation consoles will have been sold by the end of 2014, according to EEDAR analyst Jesse Divnich.

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GalacticEmpire4027d ago

Easily achieveable, well not easily but it's a realistic figure.

UnholyLight4027d ago

Agreed. Not an unreasonable prediction seeing as how there's soo much pent up demand for the PS4 and new Xbox

LOGICWINS4027d ago

Outside of dedicated gaming sites, no one I know is clamoring for next-gen consoles. We'll see what happens, but I think people here are overestimating the popularity of these consoles.

They'll sell out at launch of course due to the limited supply, but I don't see the PS4/720 selling that much by 2014 unless they are heavily subsidized.

Rainstorm814027d ago (Edited 4027d ago )

@ logic

I personally know at least 5 or 6 people waiting to preorder and everytime I go into GameStop people are asking about PS4 and by association X720... And this is my small circle......if the prices are reasonable and the software is decent..the hype could carry 11 mil between Sony and MS.

Besides it says by the END of 2014

On a side note are they including the Wii-U?

Army_of_Darkness4027d ago

It's just a matter of which next gen console sells the most within the first year that makes things interesting since they are both gonna be released practically back to back.

dcbronco4027d ago (Edited 4027d ago )

Logic I think no one is clamoring because there wasn't the announce a year or two in advance thing this time. It's same year announcements with little press after. I think there will be over 15 million Xboxes and PS4s sold. Not only to gamers but also because of the different ways they will be sold. Also because these consoles won't be over $400 and $300 wouldn't surprise me.

SoapShoes4026d ago

@Logic - If the PS3 still sells near that much on a yearly basis at the price it is at now, I don't see it being so far fetched that the PS4 won't.

LOGICWINS4026d ago

^^It'll really depend on how much these consoles cost. I just personally don't know anyone who's excited to buy it. I do however have one friend who will get it close to launch, but he's not really a gamer, he just always likes to have the newest consoles just to say that he has them lol.

jetlian4026d ago (Edited 4026d ago )

both 360/ps3 sold 5.5 million in the first year.So he predicts 720/ps4 will do the same. No wii u isnt included

Also 360 was announced the same year it came out

Edit: they have 14-15 months to sell 11 million between the two. Doesn't seem like much

UnholyLight4026d ago

@LOGICWINS

The last year especially, people were very disappointed when there was not even a hint of next gen at E3 last year. People have been waiting for new consoles for a while. I know this to be true at least in Canada, there's a lot of people that want them and most people I know were early adopters of either PS3 or Xbox 360.

The immense amount of people signed up for first info of PS4 orders at Gamestop in USA is over 900k, I assume Canada will have lots as well.

Everyone is talking about PS4 on the internet and it was trending for a while on Twitter when they had their show in February.

I think it seems fairly obvious people are more than ready. Not trying to take a stab at you, but it seems more like you're not ready!!!! When the new consoles come out it will have been 8 years for Xbox and 7 for Playstation. THATS WAY TOO LONG.

LOGICWINS4026d ago (Edited 4026d ago )

"The immense amount of people signed up for first info of PS4 orders at Gamestop in USA is over 900k"

900,000 people out of 315 million Americans is "immense" to you? Lets not forget that signing up for information doesn't mean your going to actually BUY a console at launch, it just means that your interested. Many unforeseen circumstances can occur between now and this fall.

"Everyone is talking about PS4 on the internet"

Where/Who is this "everyone" that you speak of? I haven't seen them personally.

"I think it seems fairly obvious people are more than ready. Not trying to take a stab at you, but it seems more like you're not ready!!!!"

I've been ready since I heard 8GB of RAM, its just that no one I know personally shares my excitement.

nukeitall4026d ago

@LOGICWINS:

"Outside of dedicated gaming sites, no one I know is clamoring for next-gen consoles. We'll see what happens, but I think people here are overestimating the popularity of these consoles."

I kind of agree with you that outside of the niche core gamers, people don't even think about this.

That said, I think MS approach of widening their audience might help as well as the fact that historically the numbers have been right around there for the first year.

So it is definitely reachable especially if the next generation comes in at a lower price point. Low price might be hard to believe though with 8GB GDDR5 and Kinect 2....

aCasualGamer4026d ago

I don't know.. it depends on how much the consoles will cost(unknown factor) and how they revolutionize gameplay(somewhat unknown factor).

It's not an everyday thing to just buy a new console, so the game developers really need to bring out their pencils and show their creative side. I'm a graphics whore and love the comfortability of consoles, so i'm getting a PS4 for Driveclub and GT6 (and hopefully Kara PS4 and God of war PS4). But that's just me, i don't know how many other people out there are like me.

UnholyLight4026d ago

@LOGICWINS

Yeah I know my argument is pretty flawed. Some missing information - it was 900k people that signed up for preorder info within the first week of the announcement. I have no idea what that number is now but I would think it must be pretty high!

Anyway it's just how I see it, it's created a lot of buzz amongst all of my friends, even guys who aren't huge gamers are saying "Holy hell the PS4 looks amazing I must get one". I've talked to a lot of strangers on Xbox Live who even said they would be buying PS4. I dunno I guess that's all pretty subjective since I can't prove that to you haha!

Yeah I totally agree that price will be a factor though. Pricing is going to be really interesting seeing as how people are so willing to spend more money than an Xbox or Playstation for say an iPad, but not the former...But I guess a large chunk of iPad owners are likely not gamers soo..hahha

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MysticStrummer4026d ago

Depends almost entirely on the price.

famoussasjohn4026d ago

Analysts are just there to talk out of their butts. Best job ever to project your own numbers and not be called out on it, you can always say you have an inside source or something to base your claims.

ijust2good4026d ago

Well that's better than what Gaming PC will sell...After all PC in general is in decline but PC gaming rigs will be hit hard coming next gen.

FlameHawk4027d ago

I really doubt it, there are still great games being released and once the PS4 comes out then the PS3 will most likely get a price drop which will only lower the sales.

BitbyDeath4027d ago

Sounds pretty low if they're talking all 3 consoles.

kreate4026d ago

which means

1. analysts are looking at a further decline in the gaming industry

either/or

2. analysts are suspecting the ps3/360 to continue to sell well that will eat into the next gen sales

hollabox4027d ago

That sounds about right if the price is under $299 or less.

Rainstorm814027d ago

Ps4 or x720 won't be the same price as the Wii-U

hollabox4026d ago

What's up with the disagrees? Fanboyism? Probably, any who there were documents out there supporting $299 for the next Xbox, PS4 unknown but probably in the $399 ball park range. In terms of selling 11 million I really don't see that being a problem if the price is right. Even the Wii U will sell 11 million units by the end of 2014.

I will probably buy both systems this fall and skip the Wii U unless Nintendo has something really impressive instore for E3. The link regarding $299 rumor is listed below. If this is true Nintendo will probably need to drop the Wii U price by $100 to remain competitive.

http://www.theverge.com/201...

Theyellowflash304026d ago

Seems pointless to buy the PS4 and Xbox 720. If MS and Sony both charge for online play you're going to be out of a ton of money.

Not to mention there both going to house the same shooters. You don't need both systems to play shooters. There be like 15 released in the first 2 months of the system.

madjedi4026d ago (Edited 4026d ago )

@yellowflash "Seems pointless to buy the PS4 and Xbox 720." Funny i feel the exact same way when i look at the wii u. Not a thing that looks appealing even at $250 on amazon.

"Not to mention there both going to house the same shooters. You don't need both systems to play shooters. There be like 15 released in the first 2 months of the system."

Really 15 shooters, so far killzone cod, battlefield and destiny are the only known shooters. Leave it to a nintendo fanboy to make bullshit claim like that up.

Look up knack or infamous, not every game coming out is a fucking fps, ms exclusives are still unknown atm.

Hell at least sony and ms fans have a rough idea of when the games will be out, which is more than wii u fans can say.

Your making alot of assumptions despite e3 still hasn't passed yet.

Hollabox is getting disagrees because it is stupid as hell to expect a $299 price point on either system.

Especially since the leaks we have access to have indicated both sony and ms aren't pulling a nintendo.

Ie using alot of slow or outdated hardware and tossing a expensive and unimpressive novelty controller that jacks the cost up.

Both sony and ms should try for either a $400-450 range, you start hitting $500 and it gets steep for some.

1OddWorld4026d ago (Edited 4026d ago )

I will at least explain why I disagreed with your post.

You say "if the price is under $299 or less". People will buy next gen consoles in droves at a price of $500.

I also hate getting disagrees without an explanation.

hollabox4026d ago (Edited 4026d ago )

@Theyellowflash30

15 shooters or not I still have an decent selection of racing games, RPG games, sports games, action &adventures and probably a ton of new IP developers won't publish on the Wii U. So yeah I'll take that over milked franchises and games I wouldn't buy on my sell phone.

Even if both systems cost $500 I can afford both on the same pay check. With that said I still have not purchased a Wii U yet, there's nothing Nintendo has announced or leaked I'm interested in playing.
Only thing Nintendo has going for it right now is its legacy. I mean there are only like 15 plat formers and side scrolling games you can play on the Wii U, why upgrade from the Wii or even Gamecube for that matter (joke if you don't get it)?

$299 might seem abit far stretched but just going off what the leaked documents said since no official information has been provided regarded Xbox Next. In Sony corner they seem to be correcting their mistakes with the PS3 by making it easier to develop for, and giving the developers the specs (Ram) they need to develop next gen titles.

With that said I don't think Sony will launch a system at $500 after seeing what happened with the PS3. Even if both systems launches at $400 or more both MS and Sony are well known for reducing hardware cost to lower retail cost in the first two years.

M-M4027d ago (Edited 4027d ago )

Very possible, I honestly think it will sell a little more than that though by 2014. People have been eager to get their hands on a new next gen console for some time.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 2h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle13h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic188110h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio10h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning775h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga12h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218311h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga10h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan6h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus235h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv725h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10115h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos14h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-4h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac14h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10113h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic11h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead4h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 11h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken22h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 7h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 7h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 7h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 3h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 6h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 6h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 22h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 20h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 17h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 10h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 12h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 8h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 20h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 6h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 5h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger2h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos1d 22h ago (Edited 1d 22h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 21h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 21h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 18h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 21h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 19h ago (Edited 1d 19h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 20h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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