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Always Online: A Death Sentence or No Big Deal?

GR's DeShun Zollicoffer writes:

When it comes to the always-online debate gamers are split in two groups. One group thinks it’s commercial suicide, and the other thinks it’s just were the industry is headed. “We’re already always online – this is the future. Deal with it!” Okay, let’s see who’s right. Is an always-online console a death sentence or no big deal?

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jcnba284462d ago (Edited 4462d ago )

You do realize that the PS4 will require always online for streaming games through Gaikai?

@brish "PS4 looks likes it has an offline way to use it" What? I said streaming...

dcbronco4462d ago

Om my god, someone disagreed with that.

brish4462d ago (Edited 4462d ago )

@jcnba28

You do realize that if you don't stream games through Gaikai you don't need to be always online?

PS4 looks likes it has an offline way to use it but the next xbox doesn't. See the difference?

@WeAreLegion

I tried Gaikai a few months ago and when I lost my connection the game stopped working.

WeAreLegion4462d ago

Actually, Gaikai caches your game to the HDD, in case of an internet outage. ^_^

It did when it was on PC. I'm sure they'll do the same on the PS4.

Supermax4462d ago

No big deal.ps3 peeps will get ps4 and Xbox people will get the new one,nothin new here move on.

ifritAlkhemyst4462d ago

Frankly, since the average gamer these days is pretty stupid I don't think it will hurt too much. The informed will protest and probably shun MS, the ignorant will make the next Xbox as successful as the last despite the number of RROD's they may have suffered.

Sim City, midst all the controversy when it still wasn't even playable, was making bank throughout the entire time because people were still freaking buying it.

MikeMyers4462d ago (Edited 4462d ago )

It's because people panic and over-react. A lot of games have server issues at first because they sometimes don't know how it's going to be received by the public. You can do internal testing but if millions of people are all trying to play at once it could severely handicap the servers. Do you hear about SimCity anymore having issues? Are people playing it and enjoying it now?

I understand the frustration. I also understand that once we head down this road there is less freedom. We can argue about arcade games we buy on Xbox Live or Playstation Network. Or the games we buy on Steam. They are all tied to your account which means they are more restrictive than buying a physical copy. Some PC games are DRM free so you can install them on new hardware anytime. Some have limits. Some Playstation games are locked like a few from Capcom. Other agmes like Warhawk had a 24 hour connection process which meant you can only play it on one PS3 and have to wait 24 hours to sign in on another system but it can only be played on one machine at one time. Sony and Electronic Arts also support online codes, that's another form of restriction. The Xbox 360 only allows certain hard drives, that's another form of restriction. Same with memory cards on Playstation Vita.

We can go on and on about how times have changed and keep changing. Some games on the PS4, just like the PS3, can only be bought on the store. Same with the Xbox 360 and the Wii U.

As we build up our gamertags that will be our sign-in process. That is where our content will eventually be stored, in the cloud. Right now I have lots of Steam games but only a few installed on my computer. I can install them anytime I want but it's all locked to my account. So we are already living in an online world. If Microsoft wants to go down this road of being even more restrictive they better be prepared to never have Xbox Live go down.

I still don't see them coming out with a system that won't function unless there is a connection. Nothing runs perfectly 24/7. You can still do things on your tablet, smartphone and so on if there is no connection. It's not as good mind you but you can still do basic functions. That's why some store books or games on their tablets. Not everyone wants to use bandwidth and some companies are stringent on data.

As for answering the question of the topic, why could this be good for gamers? The answer really is that's what some of the features require. Online multiplayer, streaming, buying items, social interaction, sharing. There are things people do now that they enjoy and spend a lot of time doing on their consoles while being connected. Sure you don't need any of that playing single player games but look at how social gaming is becoming in consoles. Look at how many games now have some form of online. Watch Dogs is apparently going to require it. So of course there are added benefits to being connected. I think some people just have issues being forced to be connected.

ifritAlkhemyst4462d ago

I think another thing that absolutely must be addressed is what happens when the Xbox after this next one releases. At some point, does the console just become a useless brick? How long will MS support it on their servers?

MikeMyers4462d ago (Edited 4462d ago )

Good question. This is the problem with consoles, the backwards support isn't very good and doesn't look to be getting any better. At least not on the PS4, we haven't heard any confirmation for the next Xbox yet. The Wii U supports Wii games. This is where a service like Steam shines. I can build a brand new computer tomorrow and all of my games can be transferred over. If any of my current games struggle or I have to set the settings down for a good frame rate I can build a better PC or change some parts and my games will perform and look better. What happens on the console end? Either they look and play the same, they are not supported, or you hope they re-release it and charge you again.

Vettur4462d ago

I don't really like the idea of it, but it's something we'll have to deal with. well, of course you guys can stop playing games because of this, but worse things could have happend.

HyperBear4462d ago

Xbox 720 tagline:

Deal With It. Jump In.

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Final Fantasy IX Music Special Live Stream Announced For 25th Anniversary

Do not miss the Final Fantasy IX Music Special Live Stream on July 7th! Celebrate FFIX's 25th anniversary with unforgettable music.

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Goodguy011d 9h ago

And the remake announcement there probably.... hopefully

jznrpg54m ago

It should be there. All signs are pointing to it

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Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 + 4 Pre-Load Now Available, Nearly Twice The Download Size Of 1 + 2

The pre-load for Activision and Iron Galaxy's Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3 + 4 is now available, and the download size has been revealed.

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1nsomniac6h ago

I wish they’d do a proper switch 2 update for Tony Hawk 1+2 me and my 7 year old daughter love playing it in split screen and it plays great but it looks absolutely terrible. I would say it looks like the resolution drops down to about 540p in order to keep the framerate up.

LucasRuinedChildhood4h ago

If they don't, Pro Skater 1+2 is pretty cheap these days on PS5 and Series X if you have on of them. Switch version was only 30fps as well.

Pro Skater 3+4 will definitely be a huge upgrade from that on Switch 2.

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Ace Combat Celebrates 30th Anniversary With Promise to "Take Flight Once Again" and More

The Ace Combat series celebrates its 30th anniversary, and Bandai Namco revealed interesting initiatives, on top of a poignant message.

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darthv721d 8h ago

That controller looks like a cheap knockoff... it should have been a proper DS5 design.

darthv721d 7h ago

...the VR aspect in 7 IS the redeeming quality.

Abriael1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

what a dumb take.

Ace Combat 7 is one of the best games of the past generation. It doesn't need VR gimmicks to "redeem" it.

TheColbertinator22h ago

I have enjoyed nearly every single Ace Combat to death (except that helicopter shooting one) and have never needed VR once to enjoy it greatly

PapaBop13h ago

^^^ I'm guessing you've never actually tried it in VR then? VR elevates games like this way beyond just a gimmick, just ask any GT fan who owns a PSVR 2. You may not need VR to have a good time but it's an absolute game changer and something that shouldn't be dismissed as a gimmick.

S2Killinit13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

@Abriael
Spoken like someone who never played it. But who are we kidding. We know why VR hate. No one is fooled here.

Abriael12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

@PapaBop: I tried it in VR before any of you ever did, since the game wasn't even out yet. It's a gimmick, disjointed from the AC7's main gameplay and far removed from its best parts.

It's nothing more than a limiting factor, as Ace Combat's most complex missions require hardware power to be focused on other things. That's why the VR missions are very basic.

If you think Ace Combat's strengths are even close to the platform it's on, VR or non-VR, you obviously aren't an Ace Combat fan.

In any case, I suggest you folks prepare yourself for disappointment. There's a reason why the VR gimmick was never expanded, and it's that, besides a few fanatics who care for evangelizing their VR fad more than they care for the franchise, no one gave a flying F.

The developers are going to use the resources to make the whole game better for everyone instead.

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S2Killinit13h ago

VR was the best thing that happened to Ace Combat. You kidding?

yeastori11h ago

VR is perfect for this type of game wdym

Abriael10h ago

It's a perfect way to limit this type of game.

CrimsonWing691d 7h ago

Look, I’m a simple man. I see Ace Combat and say, “Yes!”

Abnor_Mal1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Can we get a new Ace Combat, with full vr and not just three or four levels, for PS5 and PSVR2
Also if we could get a remake of my all time favorite, Ace Combat5: The Unsung War, again with full vr for every mission with DualSense and flight stick haptics.

yeastori11h ago

I just want them to remaster AC4 and AC5, a new AC with better more realistic looking world and planes would be great too