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Xbox always-online: Maybe it's not so terrible

Chris Morris explains that having a big company like Microsoft step up could make always-online more palatable for next-gen

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PirateThom4054d ago

1. Denial.
2. Anger.
3. Bargaining.
4. Depression.
5. Acceptance. <

We reached stage 5 quickly.

MariaHelFutura4054d ago

Lol yeah. Being ABLE to go offline is a nice option.

JeffGUNZ4054d ago

I think offline will be an option. I believe that the true beauty and beast features will require a connection to the internet, but I don't believe they are not going to allow people to play video games if they don't have an internet connection. I still have not seen any rumors saying the console is inoperable if not connected.

loulou4054d ago

ofcourse it is terrible.... just look at the comments that get on n4g everyday about it.

anyway, some confirmation would actually be better than watching the same fanboys foaming at the mouth about it everyday

xHeavYx4054d ago

"Xbox always-online: Maybe it's not so terrible" Said no one ever!

MariaHelFutura4054d ago

I hope so. But there was one rumor regarding it. That it will allow 3 mins before the system will shutdown. I don't remember where the rumor came from though. Who knows.

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greenpowerz4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

I know we see it on n4g everyday, thousands of comments from PS3 fans crying over rumors of something not even announced and will never buy

It's hard to say if PS3 are so obsessed with this because they want to smear and attack the 720 to help with a supposed PS4 victory *or* if they are really worried that "if it's true" knowing developers would naturally support a console that protects their software better resulting in xbox preference.

Both consoles are using similar PC-ish tech so piracy will be an issue. A company that would do this would lose millions of sales at the same time would be a winner with the developers by default.

Of course all the rumors about always being connected could be nothing more than MSFT using this function in dev kits only, to control when and where devs are using the hardware and games as a pre launch security protocol.

It's entertaining to see PS3 fanboys tracking and trolling xbox news with nervous anger and frustration and the game media is eating this up getting hits while they can due to their failing industry

MariaHelFutura4054d ago

I own a 360, depending on whats the story w/ the 720, I'll eventually own that too. Everyone doesn't have a twisted mind, just because you do. I love the Playstation most (for my own reasons), but I generally just enjoy gaming....unlike you.

caseh4054d ago

What makes you think its PS3 fans flapping these rumours about.?

I'm a PS3 fanboy but seriously, all these articles about the Nextbox and ALWAYS-ON are getting ridiculous.

Ron_Danger4054d ago

I believe it was the great philosopher J. Timberlake that once said "what goes around, comes around."

AtomicGerbil4054d ago

I can't help thinking that you would be the first to champion the rumours if they were positive.

VonBraunschweigg4054d ago

Blablabla. Look at it this way, DRM sucks because it's restricting, kinda like why you are down to one bubble - we would DRM you to zero if we could - and the always online thing is a restriction to, especially for you:) I mean where would you be man, nothing to play OR post on N4G. What you're gonna do, write letters?

Dear N4G,

I would like to submit this article I enclosed, sorry for the stain and blablabla...

kenshiro1004054d ago

Do you have an off switch? Just curious.

MikeMyers4054d ago

I own a Xbox 360 as well and if you look through my comments I an not a hater of Microsoft like we see way too often here on N4G. The thing is I don't trust an always online system. I've gone through the Playstation Network hack and issues on Xbox Live as well. I also don't like all of my content locked. The console suppliers have shown they cannot compete with a service like Steam.

You also have to ignore the forum dwellers that the article talks about. You get a lot of very negative people who love to troll online. You also have those that are biased and don't like anything Microsoft does so this just gives them even more fuel.

I just don't see as many upsides as there are downsides to a system that requires an online connection. Sony fans rejected the PSP Go and I imagine Xbox fans are likely to do the same with this. I don't have an issue having my systems connected, they already are. I just don't like the idea of being locked into a service that is already more costly than most others. Microsoft refuses to even offer free online gaming on games we already bought. This seems to me like another step to gouge and control software.

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Ashlen4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

Enjoy not having the option to play used games on your DRM box.

JeffGUNZ4054d ago

Can you provide a link where MS confirms that? oh. They haven't announced anything yet.

Mikeyy4054d ago

Jeff is still on stage 1.

Despite the overwhelming coincidences and leak after leak and even the FBI arresting somebody.

After all that you are in denial about everything still.

Wow.

Hicken4054d ago

They haven't confirmed ANYTHING, but nor have they DENIED ANYTHING, either.

And THAT'S the problem. Rumors run rampant about all sorts of negatives with the next console, and there's NOTHING to counter them. Add to that how Microsoft, even in the gaming arena, has been pushing "multimedia" more than gaming, how they've been pushing casual over core, and it's no surprise that people are making the assumptions they are about the next console.

Is it seriously so hard to get this? Cuz I see you and others speaking like it's just unfathomable. But it's so simple, provided you're being objective.

SpartanQ84054d ago

for me

1.denial
2.anger
3.F@k m$ im getting a PS4

bumnut4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

Why base your decision on rumours?

Ill boycott the 720 if it is 'always on' but until its confirmed its just another rumour.

nukeitall4054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

For me:

1. why is every moron on the internet flipping out over literally nothing! Nothing is really known about the next Xbox.
2. repeat from 1. again

Blaze9294054d ago (Edited 4054d ago )

if people REALLY think Microsoft - a COMPUTER company first and foremost - does not know the connectivity infrastructure of the technology WORLD and the people in it, then people are truly more stupid than I thought to think they will release the next xbox and not allow people to play games on it if they're offline or simply, don't have an internet connection.

What sense does that make for ANY business man? That's like setting up a lemonade stand and a 5yr old going, no lemonade for you unless you bring your own cup everytime to drink it. I'm gonna exclude every customer who MAY want some lemonade, by only focusing on those who already have cups...just cause it makes sense to me.

geassdanny4054d ago

Oh you mean the same company that released the Vista OS. The greatest OS ever! Or the Xbox 360 with never failing hardware issue or RROD!

Yeah, MS is a computer company first, doesn't mean that they don't make shit decisions!

VonBraunschweigg4054d ago

Well, if the lemonade is some really great kick-ass lemonade I will walk around with that cup, day one. But there's no news on the lemonade, and this gen the lemo's gone dry.

I can see them push through with this always online thing, but only if they have some really great must-have games to announce this E3. If not, well than they really are that stupid.

Perhaps we all just should accept it, after all we still have our PS4's to game on:)

AridSpider4054d ago

releasing something an OS that wasn't efficient on resources is different from releasing an OS that wouldn't work if you didn't have an internet connection.

I don't even see why you brought Vista into this conversation to be honest...but it's clear you just want to troll or something

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sagapo4054d ago

If I have to be online to play games, I don't want it, plain and simple! I just hope it's a rumour.

urwifeminder4054d ago

Article number wtf on the same subject people will buy what they want as i will with new xbox jumping in and dealing with it.

GrumpyOla4054d ago

I still don't get it. What happens if you are suddenly disconnected from the net while you're on single player? Can you complete your session offline like in Demon Soul's?

MariaHelFutura4054d ago

Rumors are you have 3 mins before the system will shutdown/log off.

VonBraunschweigg4054d ago

With a big blinking counter top right corner, last minute in red, last 10 seconds with a voice going

Ten!
Nine!

all the way to Zeroooo...the endboss fades away and it's back to the dash where you will find out the ads still work.

Wizziokid4054d ago

If you are required to have an internet connection to play games then yes, it is terrible.

But we have no idea if these rumors are true so these articles are pointless until this is either confirmed or denied.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk771d 15h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE1d 11h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7301d 11h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor1d 8h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos1d 8h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor1d 8h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos1d 8h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18813d ago (Edited 3d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus233d ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

rokos2d ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb332d ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC2d ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled3d ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies3d ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear212d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k43d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot3d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC2d ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615862d ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k42d ago (Edited 2d ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k42d ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody3d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead3d ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage2d ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast3d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19793d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19792d ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage2d ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead5d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel5d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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