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Is it ethical to disallow the use of used games?

Pixel Enemy's William Pelegrin takes a look at used games then weighs up the pros and cons.

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Run_bare4051d ago

Used games has values, not that I buy used games, but I trade in alot of games for new ones.

If used games has no value, that means I can't trade in anymore and that is sucks, especially in today's economy.

MikeMyers4051d ago

Which is why we need that cycle to continue. If people buy less games then less risks will be taken by the industry.

The best way to curb companies from implementing blocks for used games is to make it illegal.

http://www.playstationlifes...

Ownership is such a gray area. We can buy and sell goods all the time from cars to clothing to books. So now that it is digital form they want to take away that. If they make it legal to sell those digital goods then this would be a non-issue. The problem with digital goods is they are an exact replica of the original. So there is no depreciation factor other than online play if they took down the servers. That's why people buy new cars, older ones break down or need repairs. Older games don't follow those same guidelines. Still, you should be able to own digital goods.

Neoprime4051d ago

Yes it is wrong, retailers need that money, and it create jobs for our economy, we already don't have jobs for people in this country why take away more when we need more, it's not even about greed anymore but just pure stupidity and control.

FlameBaitGod4051d ago (Edited 4051d ago )

You think companies care about creating jobs lol. They close stores all the time because they don't make the money THEY expected. The majority of companies who file for bankruptcy do it because they don't reach the estimates they had projected, not because they where losing money. They just file for bankruptcy and form a whole new entity.

Neoprime4051d ago

If they have no retailers they can't sell anything physical.

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Lifebanisher4051d ago (Edited 4051d ago )

hmmm ok mr article maker you try and be a Game developer and see how people pass around your finished product without giving back money to you and then answer me is it ethical?

xXxSeTTriPxXx4051d ago (Edited 4051d ago )

Couldn't have said it any better tbh.I love gaming so I support the people who make it possible.

BanBrother4051d ago

I agree and disagree. It pisses me off when people buy a used game instead of the 'new' one, as they are being cheap trying to save $5. Another thing though is that not everyone can afford new games, and the restrictions will effect all of us.

I always buy used, unless I can't find a 'new' version of an older game. So, someone like me who buys 'new' is penalised, as if I want to lend it to a friend/brother, I can't.

Maybe developers should reward people who buy new instead of punish all of us? And I don't mean cut content that would have otherwise been in the game and pass it off as 'bonus' content. At the end of the day, developers/publishers should set clear goals with their game and how much they are willing to invest. Set realsitic sales numbers etc.

Philoctetes4051d ago

Of course it is. People buy and sell used cars all the time, and nobody thiks anything of it. There is no ethical difference between buying a used F-150 from its current owner and buying a used copy of GOW3.

It would be differen if we were talking about downloading a copy of a digital file from a server someplace, but as long as we're talking about the resale of physical media, there's no ethical issue involved at all. You own it and it's yours to resell if you can find a buyer.

Lifebanisher4051d ago

well if you put it that way i guess i'll have to agree with you. i just wanted to see how people would react to my comment if they were put on the developers shoes. for us it will be ethical, but for the developers and publishers it will be a lost sale which for them is not ethical at all, cause it's just like piracy a lost sale and piracy is considered stealing but lending your stuff or reselling well it's not the same as piracy, but it is still hard to come with a conclusion if it's ethical or not.

JasonKCK4051d ago

What does ethics have to do with used games?

creepjack4051d ago

Why isnt anyone discussing the severe impact on new game sales a ban on used games will bring? More and more publishers are REQUIRING larger and larger sales numbers, and if you take away trading in used games towards new ones, then its a guarantee that new games sales will suffer , quite a lot too.

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Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX

This could be fun as they make great tables. Go big or go extinct. Prime your senses for a neural handshake and step into the cockpit of a Jaeger. It is on you to cancel the apocalypse when Pacific Rim Pinball comes to Pinball FX on May 16.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7223h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle10h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio7h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning772h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga10h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21839h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga8h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan4h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus232h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv722h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10112h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos12h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-2h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac11h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10111h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead2h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein22h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno18h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k417h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson16h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu17h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson16h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -